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thered
4th December, 2008, 07:51 PM
cant believe it he has packed in i never had roy keane down as a quitter,i am shocked at this once great man to pack in at the first real sign of trouble spineless

shesgotmedals
4th December, 2008, 09:29 PM
I think he just bit off too much for his first job in management, I'm sure he'll be back at a lower level to learn his trade properly..

kenmonu
4th December, 2008, 09:43 PM
i think that he bit off a bit more than he could chew personally by taking on the sunderland job. theirs no doubt he was a fantastic player but like a lot of ex players have found out that management is a different ballgame, parden the pun.

Ballistic
4th December, 2008, 11:10 PM
A shame Great Footballer.. But hes an Honest Guy who speaks his mind and I imagine knew that enough was enough and he wasnt the right guy to carry it on...

B

thered
4th December, 2008, 11:23 PM
his first season they said he was a miracle worker taking sunderland from the bottom of the championship to the premiere

then he packs in cos he's on a bad run i thought more of roy keane than that roy keane the player was a battler roy keane the manager seems like a bottler

rob6007
4th December, 2008, 11:40 PM
to be honest guys i dont know what you ate saying .

when keane took over the where bottom of the championship and in one season gets them into the premiership .

i think saying bit more than he can chew is harsh .

not many managers could do sumthing like that in such little time .

he made some good signings and its still early days in the league.
i must admit tho im shocked that he walked as it seems a bit of heat and he couldnt take it .

tho you dont know if he really did walk or didnt want a sacking on his c.v

keane will get a go at a prem team again no probs .

opsmonkey
5th December, 2008, 01:06 AM
i think he knew his team was turd and didnt want to get reamed by his old boss this weekend.. Utd will rip Sunderland apart and i think keane didnt want to look stupid in front of fergie....

he may have worked wonders in the championship.. but the Premier League is a big step up.. ask any Derby fan.. lol

krazylegz
5th December, 2008, 02:43 AM
personally i think he was pushed...and believe it was a similar thing to keegan leaving newcastle.

as i dont believe he would have signed some of those players that signed, i think they went behind his back and did it anyway and hes had enough.

dont get me wrong i think its class the mackems messiah has walked :roflmao:

mackem girl
5th December, 2008, 02:28 PM
hi im a sunderland fan and go to all the home games at bolton game he didnt seem botherd he didnt even leave the dug out he just stood there yea he has done well in the passed but i think hes lost the plot he didnt seem to know what his best eleven was and some of his subtituions at times were bazarie:idea:give big sam ago

Raven
5th December, 2008, 02:39 PM
I think it's funny how man u fans are calling him a quitter and a bottler now lol, to me Roy Keane has always been a vindictive and downright dirty player...someone who is very opinionated and someone who doesn't think twice about storming out if things aren't to his liking. Says alot about the man doesn't it. However he did take Sunderland out of the lower reaches of the Championship and into the big time of the Premiership in his first season as manager....there's alot of managers that are still trying to get out of that league after many a season.....so he is a talented manager no doubt, but I don't think he has the man management skills of either himself or his squad or peers when things aren't going in the right direction....half of that is because he is used to success and the other half of that is because he is a tosser, first sign of relegation dogfight and he has walked! Can't say I blame him he obviously has high standards and feels there's no hope for success at Sunderland beyond this point.

I can understand Sunderland fans being upset and Man U fans should stay out of it as it's nothing to do with them, Keane as a player and Keane as a manager are 2 totally different things....but this proves 1 thing, Keane is a tosser and him and Man U deserve each other lol. Keane to succeed Fergie!

thered
5th December, 2008, 08:37 PM
I think it's funny how man u fans are calling him a quitter and a bottler now lol, to me Roy Keane has always been a vindictive and downright dirty player...someone who is very opinionated and someone who doesn't think twice about storming out if things aren't to his liking. Says alot about the man doesn't it. However he did take Sunderland out of the lower reaches of the Championship and into the big time of the Premiership in his first season as manager....there's alot of managers that are still trying to get out of that league after many a season.....so he is a talented manager no doubt, but I don't think he has the man management skills of either himself or his squad or peers when things aren't going in the right direction....half of that is because he is used to success and the other half of that is because he is a tosser, first sign of relegation dogfight and he has walked! Can't say I blame him he obviously has high standards and feels there's no hope for success at Sunderland beyond this point.

I can understand Sunderland fans being upset and Man U fans should stay out of it as it's nothing to do with them, Keane as a player and Keane as a manager are 2 totally different things....but this proves 1 thing, Keane is a tosser and him and Man U deserve each other lol. Keane to succeed Fergie!


you pick your posts to goad me but i will rise above it cos im that kind of guy


i just though he had a bit more about him than to quit as soon as there was a bad spell


he's at a big club with cash to spend it could have been a big stepping stone in his career as for roy keane himself i thought the world of him as a player but since he left old trafford in tears he has been a bit bitter towards the club and manager and said a few catty things in the paper

ferguson was right to get rid he was past his best and thought he was bigger than the club in some respects,he it seems took leaving badly

opsmonkey
5th December, 2008, 08:52 PM
Keane is a tosser and him and Man U deserve each other . Keane to succeed Fergie!

genius :rofl:

simon 2003
5th December, 2008, 09:01 PM
I think it's funny how man u fans are calling him a quitter and a bottler now lol, to me Roy Keane has always been a vindictive and downright dirty player...someone who is very opinionated and someone who doesn't think twice about storming out if things aren't to his liking. Says alot about the man doesn't it. However he did take Sunderland out of the lower reaches of the Championship and into the big time of the Premiership in his first season as manager....there's alot of managers that are still trying to get out of that league after many a season.....so he is a talented manager no doubt, but I don't think he has the man management skills of either himself or his squad or peers when things aren't going in the right direction....half of that is because he is used to success and the other half of that is because he is a tosser, first sign of relegation dogfight and he has walked! Can't say I blame him he obviously has high standards and feels there's no hope for success at Sunderland beyond this point.

I can understand Sunderland fans being upset and Man U fans should stay out of it as it's nothing to do with them, Keane as a player and Keane as a manager are 2 totally different things....but this proves 1 thing, Keane is a tosser and him and Man U deserve each other lol. Keane to succeed Fergie!

1 man utd fan voiced an opinion so what,hes a winner ,and in his pomp one of europes best ever midfielders dont forget that and almost single handedly dragged utd past juventus despite bein 2-0 down into the euro cup final ,downright dirty NO,always got stuck in and crossed the line a few times,remember halland tried to dragg him to his feet with a cruciate snapped so he got what was coming, hes a complex character no doubt in at the deep end a bit early for me even though they were bottom end of championship should have done the lower leagues first ,there will be more to it than we know

thered
5th December, 2008, 09:03 PM
genius :rofl:

dont you start lol

A_B_L
5th December, 2008, 09:05 PM
Think Big Sam would do the biz for the Black Cats, but how would they feel having an ex Mag in charge?

chew_51
5th December, 2008, 09:14 PM
is class and will be back at man u soon

thered
5th December, 2008, 09:16 PM
Think Big Sam would do the biz for the Black Cats, but how would they feel having an ex Mag in charge?

i think big sam was pushed far too quick at newcastle i think he would do a good job and a good m8 of mine is a mackem and he hates sam allardyce so it would be a good choice for me lol

BenFTW
5th December, 2008, 09:27 PM
No one knows whats happened beind closed doors so it could have been soemthign that happened, other than that sad to see him leave.

BigLid
6th December, 2008, 04:58 PM
Some of Roy Keanes signing were awful. Think along the lines of David Healy.

truckerbhoy
6th December, 2008, 07:33 PM
another keegan in the making?
running out the door as soon as it get rough

bugaloo41
7th December, 2008, 12:26 AM
found this one a strange one. keane done a brilliant job in the championship and reasonable in the premiership. interesting to see if he returns to management.

Walkinmyshadow
8th December, 2008, 07:49 PM
his first season they said he was a miracle worker taking sunderland from the bottom of the championship to the premiere

then he packs in cos he's on a bad run i thought more of roy keane than that roy keane the player was a battler roy keane the manager seems like a bottler


Calling him a bottler is a bit harsh, I think he took Sunderland as far as he could, when he played for Utd he could control the game almost as he wished, but as a manager he was powerless once the team were on the pitch, he looked like a man with the weight of the world on his shoulders and never looked even remotely happy...i think he needs to get out of football for a few years and chill a little..
As a Man Utd supporter he'll always be a legend to me, no matter what "catty" comments he might say

chunder
9th December, 2008, 03:56 PM
Sorry folks, but I think Keane has some real issues. This is not the first time he has bottled. In reality, he has never stuck to a task when the going got tough. He walked away from his team mates in Taipan, he let his mouth get ahead of him whnen he slagged off his Man U team mates and now he has proven himself once again to be incapable of being a team player. He singularly failed to develop any sort of rapport with his players. No manager worth his salt works in one gear as Keane has consistently done.

He lost the dressing room, pure and simple. All he ever appears to have inherited from Ferguson is the hair dryer approach. But even Sir Alex of Fergie's biggest detractors would acknowledge that he is more than a one-trick pony. He has shown himself capable of dealing with egos such as Ronaldo (not to mention Cantona), proved he can deal with wayward temperaments such as Rooney. However, he also shows consistently that no-one is bigger than the team - that is why Keane was shown the door in the end.

The sad\reality is that, outside of his dog, Keane does not have appear to have any confidantes, no-one with whom he can talk about the deeper issues or who is prepared to tell him when he is wrong, no-one he appears to want to use as a sounding board. I do not know of one successful leader in any field who shows the same insular traits as Keane.

Frankly, his attitudes and actions do not suggest to me that he is capable of being a top-flight manager. He would probably be better suited to a role as a singleton, specialist operator in a role where he does not need to interact with people.

gingerninja
9th December, 2008, 04:11 PM
after seeing sunderlands last performance under keane and his expression on the touchline i knew he would go. In my view he left as Quinn would have done everything in his power to keep him there.
I agree with previous poster to an extent but i think keane problem is communication and that he really finds it difficult to communicate and furthermore he has the irish temperament of losing his cool and a bad temper. This can be unpredictable and most of the players keane bought also have a unpredictable temperament and this did not work out.

mackem girl
9th December, 2008, 07:50 PM
after seeing sunderlands last performance under keane and his expression on the touchline i knew he would go. In my view he left as Quinn would have done everything in his power to keep him there.
I agree with previous poster to an extent but i think keane problem is communication and that he really finds it difficult to communicate and furthermore he has the irish temperament of losing his cool and a bad temper. This can be unpredictable and most of the players keane bought also have a unpredictable temperament and this did not work out.

totaly agree quinn would never have sacked him he lost the dressing room and this was obivous at the bolton game i think just about every sunderland fan at that match new he was going to walk:bike:

thered
9th December, 2008, 09:59 PM
Sorry folks, but I think Keane has some real issues. This is not the first time he has bottled. In reality, he has never stuck to a task when the going got tough. He walked away from his team mates in Taipan, he let his mouth get ahead of him whnen he slagged off his Man U team mates and now he has proven himself once again to be incapable of being a team player. He singularly failed to develop any sort of rapport with his players. No manager worth his salt works in one gear as Keane has consistently done.

He lost the dressing room, pure and simple. All he ever appears to have inherited from Ferguson is the hair dryer approach. But even Sir Alex of Fergie's biggest detractors would acknowledge that he is more than a one-trick pony. He has shown himself capable of dealing with egos such as Ronaldo (not to mention Cantona), proved he can deal with wayward temperaments such as Rooney. However, he also shows consistently that no-one is bigger than the team - that is why Keane was shown the door in the end.

The sad\reality is that, outside of his dog, Keane does not have appear to have any confidantes, no-one with whom he can talk about the deeper issues or who is prepared to tell him when he is wrong, no-one he appears to want to use as a sounding board. I do not know of one successful leader in any field who shows the same insular traits as Keane.

Frankly, his attitudes and actions do not suggest to me that he is capable of being a top-flight manager. He would probably be better suited to a role as a singleton, specialist operator in a role where he does not need to interact with people.

good post m8 i agree

topdog
10th December, 2008, 06:21 PM
me to m8 lol

ibnbatuta
10th December, 2008, 08:26 PM
there is only one alex furguson!!! keane has no idea how to build a team!

shank
15th December, 2008, 02:25 PM
Sorry folks, but I think Keane has some real issues. This is not the first time he has bottled. In reality, he has never stuck to a task when the going got tough. He walked away from his team mates in Taipan, he let his mouth get ahead of him whnen he slagged off his Man U team mates and now he has proven himself once again to be incapable of being a team player. He singularly failed to develop any sort of rapport with his players. No manager worth his salt works in one gear as Keane has consistently done.

He lost the dressing room, pure and simple. All he ever appears to have inherited from Ferguson is the hair dryer approach. But even Sir Alex of Fergie's biggest detractors would acknowledge that he is more than a one-trick pony. He has shown himself capable of dealing with egos such as Ronaldo (not to mention Cantona), proved he can deal with wayward temperaments such as Rooney. However, he also shows consistently that no-one is bigger than the team - that is why Keane was shown the door in the end.

The sad\reality is that, outside of his dog, Keane does not have appear to have any confidantes, no-one with whom he can talk about the deeper issues or who is prepared to tell him when he is wrong, no-one he appears to want to use as a sounding board. I do not know of one successful leader in any field who shows the same insular traits as Keane.

Frankly, his attitudes and actions do not suggest to me that he is capable of being a top-flight manager. He would probably be better suited to a role as a singleton, specialist operator in a role where he does not need to interact with people.

WOW!

I only joined this forum five minutes ago, and I've just read this which is one of the best posts I've ever read on any sports forum.

Keane's situation at Sunderland is similar to what happened to Billy Davies at Derby, if he hadn't got his team promoted in his first season, he'd still be in the job.