RENAULT KEYMAKER VIA OBD(k-line) new

[diagmoh]

hi

new software for programming the keys with renault display the pin code which allows more possibilities for adjustments.
The software includes all of the algorithms including the 8-digit code and the code has 4 digits fixed

[renspeed]

theres a few versions of this and prices vairy alot as well ! who makes this one or do you have a web site for it

[paul_12345]

Just been told theres now a 3 in 1 abrites clone

Opel/Renault/Volvo $680 looks real and cheap if it works 100%

[paul_12345]

also they say they've got the VAG commander for $1400

[renspeed]

have you got web site

[paul_12345]

have you got web site

read the pdf ;)

[autofan1965]

Can anyone confirm that this tool work from ufodiag?

[diagmoh]

Just been told theres now a 3 in 1 abrites clone

Opel/Renault/Volvo $680 looks real and cheap if it works 100%

hello

you already work with orv or you've heard.
on Renault vehicles you may have some surprise I'll leave that to me makes you try new

[obdmaster]

hello

you already work with orv or you've heard.
on Renault vehicles you may have some surprise I'll leave that to me makes you try new


Are you the maker or seller of renault key maker???? You seem very keen to push it????

[diagmoh]

Are you the maker or seller of renault key maker???? You seem very keen to push it????

Hello
I sell this product I've seen evolve over the past two years and I have had the opportunity to test it.
is a product of good quality and thanks al display the pin code it offers more possibilities in relation to its competitors

[obdmaster]

Hello
I sell this product I've seen evolve over the past two years and I have had the opportunity to test it.
is a product of good quality and thanks al display the pin code it offers more possibilities in relation to its competitors


Thought so m8, i use the original abrites version, at the moment it doesnt show you code it just does the key/card learning at the push of a button. In the next version ive been told it will show you code also.

[paul_12345]

I've not got got an orv yet, will probably wait a while to see if they come down in price.. dont like there 50% reduction after a month or two after release, even if its a good price for both opel and renault.

[diagmoh]

Thought so m8, i use the original abrites version, at the moment it doesnt show you code it just does the key/card learning at the push of a button. In the next version ive been told it will show you code also.

HELLO

tries to program a key with a clioIIIwith your product and gives me news

[paul_12345]

HELLO

tries to program a key with a clioIIIwith your product and gives me news

Why dont you just say what the problem is in stead of messing around... whats the chance that he has a clioIII on hand to test it on? Also if theres a problem then why would anyone want to try it.

[H.Wessel]

hi

afaik is cloned abritus, or am I wrong?

best regards
H.W

[paul_12345]

hi

afaik is cloned abritus, or am I wrong?

best regards
H.W

They are using the images of abritus so looks like it.

hopefully they release the rest of the commanders soon, bit of a shame for the people who have brought the original, but at least they will get the updates and hopefully they'll get updates a bit cheaper now to keep there custom.

[renspeed]

i would test it on all latest renault models as i work for renault uk , so all i see is latest cars ! only if i got a good discount on it tho ! cant see that happening tho , they seem slow to put new models on

[diagmoh]

Why dont you just say what the problem is in stead of messing around... whats the chance that he has a clioIII on hand to test it on? Also if theres a problem then why would anyone want to try it.
Good evening
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[obdmaster]

They are using the images of abritus so looks like it.

hopefully they release the rest of the commanders soon, bit of a shame for the people who have brought the original, but at least they will get the updates and hopefully they'll get updates a bit cheaper now to keep there custom.


Lets wait and see if the ORV actually exists!!!! Ive been told by one reputable chinese supplier, its a concept thats it.

Obviously they could be wrong, but seeing as the pdf picture looks like original, but upside down so you cant see the abrites id number, i doubt it, but i might be wrong.


If someone orders one, and test it would be very interesting if it looks like picture and works as good as original.

[paul_12345]

Lets wait and see if the ORV actually exists!!!! Ive been told by one reputable chinese supplier, its a concept thats it.

Obviously they could be wrong, but seeing as the pdf picture looks like original, but upside down so you cant see the abrites id number, i doubt it, but i might be wrong.


If someone orders one, and test it would be very interesting if it looks like picture and works as good as original.

well I emailed them a couple weeks ago and they said they haven't got the commanders yet, now they have gave price and the pdf, so I assume they have now got 'something' whether it is a abritus clone and works is another thing

[rapidlocksmiths]

looking at the ORV it represents excellent value if it works considering cost of original package , so i guess the crux is , will it work ?

Looking at the vag package of commander it has 4 key units missing for dealer key programming , it has dealer key making for Q7 listed but the more important modules for the majority of range are missing , units 23 to 26 are missing which are the dealer key elements for most of range .

its a brave guy who plugs this in and tries it out first, but if its then reported that it works , id guess they will sell lots of them at the prices quoted.

[obdmaster]

looking at the ORV it represents excellent value if it works considering cost of original package , so i guess the crux is , will it work ?

Looking at the vag package of commander it has 4 key units missing for dealer key programming , it has dealer key making for Q7 listed but the more important modules for the majority of range are missing , units 23 to 26 are missing which are the dealer key elements for most of range .

its a brave guy who plugs this in and tries it out first, but if its then reported that it works , id guess they will sell lots of them at the prices quoted.


Yes m8, 100% agree, its an even braver man who tries it on a BOSCH RB8 cluster from an AUDI A4.:cheer:

If these interfaces even exist !!!! lol

[rapidlocksmiths]

so the wise wait for true experiences to be posted and await the brave to test these out .

for renault keymaking this software is very good for renault , its legit and non copy , hasnt got clio3 yet , but does have good coverage at under ?400 , is reliable and they offer support.
They say they are in an advanced stage of getting latest renault.

Renault-True-Code (http://www.keyprogrammers.com/Renault-True-Code.html)

came across them at the auto lockey convention in november , very good product at a realistic price with good reviews.

Their nissan truecode gets good reviews also .

[H.Wessel]

hi

they are asking 1.470$ for vag package, crazy,

I don?t know anybody risking that amount on a half-working/non-working clone...

for the half price you can buy original access light package or for little more the pro 1 and have updates..

best regards
H.W

[rapidlocksmiths]

kap diagnostics had the full dealer key package at 3k at the convention , full kit , updates and support , even now the clone package for vag is not that much cheaper than buy true package, especially as untested , unknown and unproven.

as stated its a brave man who plugs the clone in and tries it for the 1st time.

due to what can go wrong , and the costs involved , sticking to original abritus is sensible way forward at present.

[paul_12345]

kap diagnostics had the full dealer key package at 3k at the convention , full kit , updates and support , even now the clone package for vag is not that much cheaper than buy true package, especially as untested , unknown and unproven.

as stated its a brave man who plugs the clone in and tries it for the 1st time.

due to what can go wrong , and the costs involved , sticking to original abritus is sensible way forward at present.


Well the VAG full package is 5k (GBP) on their website so th clone is a 1/5th of the price and will likely fall 50% if its like anything else just released.

Just depends if it works ;)

[H.Wessel]

hi

at the risk that ordering you will recive a non-working hardware with a abritus setup :D
then you will be ripped 1.400$

we all know how chineese clons are sometimes,
renamed versions, non-working programs, no comunication, killing cars..

best regards
H.W

[rapidlocksmiths]

yes 5k on their site , but was on special at the convention at 3k as a launch price in uk and the 5k package has the dealer key elements of worth modules 23 to 26 which is the full dealer key modules which sets abritus apart, missing from the clone at present, so buy the clone now with no updates , so end up buying again when they release full package , by the time you get full coverage its cost as much as an original.

The trouble with the package on offer from china despite whether they have it or not , or even if it works or not , is that its missing key modules.
Take out from it the Q7 dealer key learning and it has no more coverage for key learning than vag dash can , available in china for a 10th of the abritus clone price. how many will make enough use of the Q7 dealer key learning function to justify 10 times the cost of vag dash can ?

even zedbull obd has same key learning coverage excluding the Q7 dealer key functions.

As you wont get updates , its expensive at $1470 , when you look at comparative coverage to other optinons such as vag dash can.

without the full dealer key learning its very expensive for something that may not even work.

if wanting full dealer key coverage and you have an MVP pro or AD100 pro , then by buying an AD900 basic unit with the dealer key package it costs a similar amount but is tested and comes with full support and updates.

Zedbull have announced they are releasing their new vag cable for use with zedbull early new year for dealer key functions and price will be less than the clone.

so other safer tested and equally priced or lesser priced alternatives exist with the benefit of support and updates , so despite abritus being fantastic kit that via update will always be ahead , but others have caught up at cheaper prices than the clone, which is unproven and has no support and no updates, so at current price is too risky an investment for something untested .

even if it works , from a pin read and key preparing and programming perspective , if Q7 dealer key capability isnt worth 10 times the cost, then cheaper alternatives exist for same coverage without Q7. and of course AD900 basic pack plus dealer key software is about same price as clone yet has full coverage unlike the clone and as long as you have an ad100 or mvp pro unit its cheaper than the clone for more coverage, so i think they have overpriced it.

[paul_12345]

yes I agree too expensive but you'll see the price drop drastically soon, especially if no one buys it.

Also as far as buying stuff that dont work.. it doesn't bother me, I wont stand for it and I dont know why others do. Make sure you have the sellers return address before buying and then if theres a problem return it.. if they dont refund start a chargeback with VISA etc. simple

[rapidlocksmiths]

thats the important thing with china , only use a firm that allows payment via visa or paypal as you have a comeback, with western union you do not have a comeback.

[datapage]

The majority of developers, basically a copy of the systems of other imo or password or even the original scanners, oscilloscopes linking documents in a scanner discoveries keys they use to create your own program, summarizing all in all clones are copies of original engineering manufacturer .
Logico using your wisdom on electronics and the programming but not leaving to copy new discoveries and modify for your use, building or upgrading new programs.
Unique technology original without copies Mechanisms are originals.
Rest are copies of copies of copies so changing brands and names.
A thought ....

[rapidlocksmiths]

if a clone is good quality and works then it will sell loads , but many clones from china do not work as they should , with modern car tecnology becomming far more fickle and far easier to screw up , its a brave man that tests these on new cars in the begining.

id hate to fry a new vag ecu for instance, and many are sceptical for this reason , it all rests on the unbiased reports of those who do risk and test it.

and these reports will decide the clones future.

im not brave enough to test these , but im sure some will.

[paul_12345]

this is the best lead to test first especially on a old vauxhall as its easy enough to fix with opcom etc

[obdmaster]

this is the best lead to test first especially on a old vauxhall as its easy enough to fix with opcom etc


Dare you to test on a vectra c m8, or astra H:D

[autolockie]

Chill out guys. It's only a another clone. Like T300, Sbb, zedbull, xprog and the list is endless. I'm sure a lot of ppl on this forum have owned/used a clone product in their professional career. I certainly know PROFESSIONAL locksmiths who own and use clone tools.

If it works and does what it says then I think its well worth it.

As far as screwing some thing up is concerned any original tool can do that and if one thinks that the equipment manufacturer/distributor will compensate for the screw up he/she lives in a fantasy land. Always read terms and conditions.

[paul_12345]

Dare you to test on a vectra c m8, or astra H:D

I've can get access to a corsa 2010 and a vivaro van 2004 (whats family for if you cant test ur clones on em ;)) so could test both opel/renault... now who want to buy me the lead?? :D

[datapage]

I have kess original.
I lost several ECUs using it, and never received any money or guarantee these plants back.

Original 100% do not work too many bugs ...
Consider the amount of updates for resolving errors

Autolockie :D you're right, read the terms and conditions and has no guarantee'll know etc. ..

[rapidlocksmiths]

Totally agree , but they do as you say do alot of bug fixes and problem solving in the updates, with a chinese clone there are no updates and no bug fixes.

I know a guy with the original abritus that has put a few clio3 models to sleep and got in the poo , he didnt recieve money for this , but what he did recieve was telephone and pc support from the manufacture to resolve the problem quickly and get the car up and running again , its this support that is worth its weight in gold that buying a clone also will not give you.

some clones are very good , in some cases where my original equipment has failed anothers clone has succeeded, so nothing is perfect.

If it turns out that the chinese clone abritus works and works well , then it will be outstanding value and will be heavily bought im sure , but its an unknown at present and a risk till proven.
If these do work , then i imagine alot of locksmiths and alot in the motor industry will buy these , they wont admit it but they will buy it and use it .

i look forward to the test results when available as i bet do many others , and i look forward to knowing for sure what it can and cant do.

we have the same issues when any clone comes out , will it or wont it , some are good , some are poor and some are an accident waiting to happen, its just a matter of waiting to see.

[hack_dd]

Hello
in next sw release renault commander will show pin code.