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roadsterrt
3rd January, 2011, 02:04 PM
HI
Has anyone used that tool?
what is your opinion about it?

viki300
3rd January, 2011, 06:02 PM
Hi havent used but they supply that with magpro2 software but i suppose it is like other clone tools no support but it cost a little bit more

bazare
3rd January, 2011, 07:29 PM
post a link or something, a price etc.

viki300
3rd January, 2011, 07:34 PM
here you go
http://www.ecutool.com/productshow.asp?id=4433&sortsid=2114&sorts=

bazare
3rd January, 2011, 07:51 PM
car list is impressive and if really support all ECU's in the list I would say is a good tool. I searched a little bit more and I found the tool cheaper on other websites.

Stanton
3rd January, 2011, 09:22 PM
Would be good if someone can post with experience on how stable it is at writing.

risalelettronic
3rd January, 2011, 09:39 PM
for a good sobstitute of old kess, because it is the first old version, and who working really good see this:
IAW 59F (http://www.iaw59f.com/)

ominimicu
3rd January, 2011, 10:32 PM
supports normal cars.. no new ones..does the same think as a Mpps... not worth the money.

bazare
3rd January, 2011, 11:01 PM
I own original MPPS but I'm still disappointed that it doesn't have support for some old ECU's for example Siemens SIDXXX. So this tool still has advantages.

roadsterrt
4th January, 2011, 11:58 AM
i haven't bought it yet. i am just doing a research before i will proceed to a purchase. mostly i want to do peugeot and citroen 1,6 16v cars ( bosch and magneti marelli ) and my own car smart roadster. i want a tool that can read and write .

del635
6th January, 2011, 01:22 AM
Ford coverage seems real good, has anyone bought/tested it?

Overtune
6th January, 2011, 01:03 PM
The good thing is that it will never lock on future updates from magpro2 software....And since prices for genuine mag pro2 are going higher, maybe its a good chance to give it a try...

ipejasinovic
6th January, 2011, 02:19 PM
for a good sobstitute of old kess, because it is the first old version, and who working really good see this:
IAW 59F (http://www.iaw59f.com/)
Ahahahah... MPPS in ALU Case 250?! OMG!

Overtune
6th January, 2011, 02:55 PM
I have found a very very cheap magpro clone!!!
Check it out here: magpro clone - Shopzens (http://www.shopzens.com//search.php?q=magpro%20clone)

ipejasinovic
6th January, 2011, 03:00 PM
This is magpro, not magpro2 :D

roadsterrt
6th January, 2011, 03:27 PM
This is magpro, not magpro2 :D
what do you propose for the above cars?

risalelettronic
6th January, 2011, 04:02 PM
Ahahahah... MPPS in ALU Case 250?! OMG!

magpro2 clone? kess1 clone? Swiftech clone? working? costs waaay less
MPPS aluminum box? you do not like what you can change or adjust? too expensive?

ipejasinovic
6th January, 2011, 05:08 PM
This MPPS in ALU case have problems in hw design. If this one is 250***8364;, then how much is newer OBD-2 version with fixed hw. 300***8364;? Now, that's expensive.

roadsterrt
6th January, 2011, 05:41 PM
This MPPS in ALU case have problems in hw design. If this one is 250***8364;, then how much is newer OBD-2 version with fixed hw. 300***8364;? Now, that's expensive.
which working clone do you propose for smart 700 and peugeot and citroen 1,6 16v engines(marelli and bosch)

risalelettronic
6th January, 2011, 10:26 PM
This MPPS in ALU case have problems in hw design. If this one is 250***8364;, then how much is newer OBD-2 version with fixed hw. 300***8364;? Now, that's expensive.


I work with this tool MPPS and I've never had problems even with BMW and never had problems with x17 and magpro2 shall it's original

ipejasinovic
6th January, 2011, 11:45 PM
With cloned MPPS in Alu case you never had any problems? Then, you are just lucky. Very simple.

BATLER
9th January, 2011, 08:59 AM
anyone with xxperience on kess clone?it is really very helpful for all such discusions:call2:

ipejasinovic
9th January, 2011, 12:33 PM
Passed test on EDC16. Here is list of supported cars: http://www.auto-electronics.de/index.php?dispatch=attachments.getfile&attachment_id=3

moky
10th January, 2011, 12:56 PM
Passed test on EDC16. Here is list of supported cars: http://www.auto-electronics.de/index.php?dispatch=attachments.getfile&attachment_id=3

hi

this dealer is serious please?


thx !

asso
11th January, 2011, 11:35 PM
Hi, long time use ex Pro2 May 17 and an excellent tool

eiemax
24th February, 2011, 10:45 PM
Hello, I want to buy Kess clone. Where can I get it at the lowest price?
Thanks

dannyuk89
28th February, 2011, 01:39 PM
how much did u pay for clone i have real kess

worldobd
28th February, 2011, 03:46 PM
Hello, I want to buy Kess clone. Where can I get it at the lowest price?
Thanks


:lollypop:

bazare
28th February, 2011, 04:10 PM
when posted that link what did you searched on google?
"the MOST expensive kess clone":rolleyes:
You can get that clone for 300-350$

IanBluce
1st March, 2011, 10:24 AM
i got one kess clone, the price is good, and works fine when reading eeprom and flashing...
check it here (http://www.greebid.com/wholesale/kess-obd-tuning-kit-930.html)

del635
2nd March, 2011, 01:04 PM
Passed test on EDC16. Here is list of supported cars: http://www.auto-electronics.de/index.php?dispatch=attachments.getfile&attachment_id=3
You personally tested it???

moky
2nd March, 2011, 04:17 PM
best price KESS OBD Tuning Kit(V3.1)-OBDAUTO---BMW OPS VAG-COM,Tacho Universal,KWP2000,BMW Scanner,BMW Carsoft,ELM323,Code Reader,Can-bus (http://www.obdauto.com/views.asp?hw_id=962) (not tested)

blacktoy
5th March, 2011, 02:25 PM
where can i find a kess v2 clone?

can someone recommend me a kess v1 clone seller?

bazare
6th March, 2011, 02:11 AM
there is no kess v2 clone ...

blacktoy
6th March, 2011, 09:31 AM
Ah ok thanks.
Where can i buy a good v1 clone

Mickass
6th March, 2011, 09:48 AM
Ah ok thanks.
Where can i buy a good v1 clone

KESS OBD TURNING KIT, kess obd tuning kit,kess,kess chip tuning, Chip Turning Tool - ObdiiChina Autodiag Co.,LTD (http://www.obdiichina.com/pid14694/KESS+OBD+TURNING+KIT.htm)

390 USD/PCS

btr
8th March, 2011, 04:51 PM
Hello,maybe someone can post working eeprom dump from this device ept. or binary.,my clone not recognize usb:banghead:
thanks :(

btr
8th March, 2011, 05:01 PM
Be careful, I bought a dormant clone...:(

moky
8th March, 2011, 06:39 PM
btr,send url please,that will help other to not buy same !!!!


thanks

sarkann
8th March, 2011, 06:45 PM
Please, if somebody has allready bought a clone, which works fine, send us url or link of this clone. Thank in advance.

btr
8th March, 2011, 07:31 PM
btr,send url please,that will help other to not buy same !!!!


thanks
i buy from ufodiag...com

ozzy_rp
8th March, 2011, 10:24 PM
Hello,maybe someone can post working eeprom dump from this device ept. or binary.,my clone not recognize usb:banghead:
thanks :(

Get it :)

blacktoy
14th March, 2011, 11:22 PM
Hi,

I've bought a Kess clone (it came with the software MagPro2) and i would need the Kess Software for it.


Thx a lot i advance.

br

bts
20th March, 2011, 12:01 AM
Do not install software V3.38 Mpps.
Clone died.

bazare
20th March, 2011, 12:58 AM
this is about kess / magpro clone not MPPS

__snake__
20th March, 2011, 01:23 AM
i think all clones are shit, specially chiptuning tools, i recommand the original Kess V2 for 5500 Euros, this is only for professionel who won't lose customers cars :)

bazare
20th March, 2011, 08:41 AM
if you are just starting ... how can you pay 5500 for an original?
We all would love to have original but in reality we can't afford only original tools.

psico
20th March, 2011, 09:29 AM
magpro2 software I have a 4.0 but I bought my interface comes with 3.0, I can use 4.0 on my clone?
No blocking problems as mpps?
thanks

moky
20th March, 2011, 09:33 AM
yes you can

del635
20th March, 2011, 01:17 PM
i think all clones are shit, specially chiptuning tools, i recommand the original Kess V2 for 5500 Euros, this is only for professionel who won't lose customers cars :)
I think the biggest problem with clones is the users especailly the ones who use thier spyware/so called antivirus filled 'family' computers with no solder exp/backup, Ive now over 100 flashes I'm sure with galletto/kwp in the last few years and zero problems though I would recommend to noobs the solder method to start off and not cloned flashtools.

psico
20th March, 2011, 03:16 PM
(del635)I totally agree with you, many people blame the clone and most times it is his team that has the problem, I have mpps clone, clone GALLETTO and have not had any problems.

__snake__
20th March, 2011, 07:58 PM
some cars, you canno't do with cloned flasher tool,

it's good to get a cloned good product, for unfortunally it don't exist a 100% cloned tool, of course it's better to pay some ***8364; to have a working tool, better then many K ***8364;, but what's your sensation when you stop a customer car :) ?

MACHACEK
21st March, 2011, 10:05 AM
Hi i have problem with a clone.
When i upgrade Kess with MagPro2 v.3.0 to MagPro2 v.4.0
My clone is out of order. Have somebody the same problem please and can i do something or must I put the kess to the trash?
Thanks

psico
21st March, 2011, 04:44 PM
Well thanks for warning, in a previous post and ask that a user just told me not to clone kess crashed when updated.

psico
21st March, 2011, 04:45 PM
yes you can

This no correct, you block the kess with vers 4.0.

moky
21st March, 2011, 05:13 PM
Sorry but a friend have it and use the too versions without problems...

psico
21st March, 2011, 10:45 PM
Hi i have problem with a clone.
When i upgrade Kess with MagPro2 v.3.0 to MagPro2 v.4.0
My clone is out of order. Have somebody the same problem please and can i do something or must I put the kess to the trash?
Thanks

where buy your clone?

MACHACEK
22nd March, 2011, 08:54 AM
where buy your clone?


I buy it Carsung China, i have some another goods from this shop
and i haven?t any problems.
Is possible that i have bad software?

btr
22nd March, 2011, 12:21 PM
I buy it Carsung China, i have some another goods from this shop
and i haven?t any problems.
Is possible that i have bad software?
is possible that you lock this chip 80%

psico
22nd March, 2011, 05:20 PM
And BTR , where is the solution?
Dump for this chip?
And charge new dump?

btr
22nd March, 2011, 09:14 PM
I have same problem,my interface death ,i writed 100%working eeprom 93c46,but without success.I think in Altera is of kess device firmware.I truly can help,but...
Maybe anyone post copy from this chip:beheaded:

psico
23rd March, 2011, 05:25 PM
to see if someone post the dump of the chip.

MACHACEK
25th March, 2011, 09:38 AM
Hello,
I want ask for yet another. I has had problem with Kess before upgrade to version 4.0. when i want to connected ecu EDC15V ? VW Grup TDI, I was tried for example Octavia, Golf IV?. I could not read and write ECU

When i tried Galileto with this Cars, all was inorder and i could read and write the ECU.

If i connected with kess ford S-max ECU SID and Renault ECU S3000, Kess worked OK.
Have samebody the same problem?

Thanks Machacek

psico
28th March, 2011, 12:14 PM
why not try to read at the lowest speed?

MACHACEK
29th March, 2011, 04:15 PM
why not try to read at the lowest speed?


I have problem connecting ECU EDC 15V/TDI/ and because i can not read.:beheaded:

psico
30th March, 2011, 02:45 PM
I have problem connecting ECU EDC 15V/TDI/ and because i can not read.:beheaded:


has proven to the other software which flashtec

search for it on the first page of chiptuning

blakK
21st April, 2011, 10:41 AM
I tried the kess clone on win vista...and it worked but only for one time lol. the win xp driver seems to work with vista but also kills the blackbox?

The other kess clone works with the magpro 4.0...

blacktoy
21st April, 2011, 11:01 AM
How can i upgrade a v3 to a v4?

Br

Stanton
21st April, 2011, 10:31 PM
i think all clones are shit, specially chiptuning tools, i recommand the original Kess V2 for 5500 Euros, this is only for professionel who won't lose customers cars :)

Why would you pay 5500 when retail is only 4200 ?

scarymistake
24th April, 2011, 08:28 AM
is there anyone who can help me
what is this part

received from a friend that after removing the kit lost this part
its a kess clone
thanks
scary

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/959/cloneeeprom1.png

ipejasinovic
24th April, 2011, 09:03 AM
It's some inductor. Labeled as 331 or 351 (I'm not sure) in original Kess.

Boras
24th April, 2011, 11:44 AM
Check the value in datasheet for the switched power supply (five legs IC LMxxx)

scarymistake
24th April, 2011, 02:04 PM
It's some inductor. Labeled as 331 or 351 (I'm not sure) in original Kess.
I can replace him with
inductor
RLB0914-331KL 330uH 0.6A

ipejasinovic
24th April, 2011, 02:52 PM
Probably. But also, take advice from Boras. Find data sheet for that switched power supply near inductor and see what he requires as peripheral elements, maybe there is your answer.

blakK
25th April, 2011, 10:47 AM
Hey guys,

is there a way to repair a kess clone? As I told before I killed the clone with running the xp driver on a vista system. Now the clone doesn't work anymore.
I don't know what is damaged and needs to be replaced
Just want something to work on ;-)

The other kess clone doesn't get an ecu signal anymore (says magpro2). When trying to get on the ignition, it doesn't have a ignition anymore? I need to unplug the battery to have the ignition back.
Retailer says: Very first customer with problems...our engineers researching on this
Real strange...

scarymistake
25th April, 2011, 12:08 PM
Hey guys,

is there a way to repair a kess clone? As I told before I killed the clone with running the xp driver on a vista system. Now the clone doesn't work anymore.
I don't know what is damaged and needs to be replaced
Just want something to work on ;-)

The other kess clone doesn't get an ecu signal anymore (says magpro2). When trying to get on the ignition, it doesn't have a ignition anymore? I need to unplug the battery to have the ignition back.
Retailer says: Very first customer with problems...our engineers researching on this
Real strange...


what software do you use with your interface which doesn't have a ignition signal.:afraid::afraid:

what do you mean with "As I told before"
yet no mention of you have seen here

let us now

blakK
25th April, 2011, 04:02 PM
May I express wrong:
The cars ignition was lost -> I mean when you turn the key in "on" position (magpro2 says "turn on the ignition" when the flasher is getting the data from the ecu) you hear some sounds from the steering etc for normal. but when connect the kess clone and try to get the data from the ecu there are no sounds from the steering and no sounds from the engine at all. I get the error codes for steering and so on as well (I just get them when writing the new file on the ecu?! with the other kess clone I killed)...I need to delete them with unplug the battery.

Doesn't depend on the software (I tried magpro 3+4 and expi) and on the car (tried another one).

andy99
4th May, 2011, 09:29 PM
Hello.
I have a faulty KESS OBD TUNING KIT
where can I buy Altera ?
When I opened, I broke Altera chip was covered with adhesive :(
I need help

eduardo74
5th May, 2011, 11:19 PM
Anyone have success with Delphi DCM3.4 with clone? Or what clone tool can do this ecu?

elecautocr
15th May, 2011, 03:19 AM
Passed test on EDC16. Here is list of supported cars: http://www.auto-electronics.de/index.php?dispatch=attachments.getfile&attachment_id=3

Did you buy from them ?, Is it good company ??

zecas
15th May, 2011, 11:29 PM
hi i bought this one hase a lot more cars its uses magpro 4.2a software and flastech have more supported cars but till now only tested on 1 car magik-tool.com/MagPro.html

btr
16th June, 2011, 11:38 AM
Anyone have success with Delphi DCM3.4 with clone? Or what clone tool can do this ecu?
Yes,i only read without problem,but not write....:top:

bazare
16th June, 2011, 11:32 PM
Guys just buy the original from magicmotorsport ... you will be satisfied and a very good tool for the price.

eduardo74
21st June, 2011, 01:45 PM
This clone is big assh*le sh*t.. I tested on EDC16U34 on few VWs, EDC16C3 on Renault, EDC16C2 on Mercedes C220 cdi, etc etc not reading/writing at all. Tested on magpro 3.x up to 4.2 and shi*.

bambula tuner
16th July, 2011, 10:51 PM
Hello Guys

Can anybod helb me i have read a File from a Fiat Bravo 1.4 Tjet 16V 155PS with my Kess Clone but i dnont have a Checksumm Plugin for my Win OLS. Can Sombody correct the Checksumm for me? Or have sombody a Programm to do it?

Thanks for your help

greetings

grinovsky
17th July, 2011, 12:04 AM
cks corrected
kess clone is a good tool and work fine on VAG cars (tested)

bambula tuner
17th July, 2011, 10:39 AM
Thank you very much you are great (o: can you tell me with wich tool or programm you do this?

yes kess colne is a good tool works great with Fiat Group Cars

thanks & greetings

fargulkim
27th July, 2011, 08:56 PM
how say: kess clone read/write edc 16 and edc 17 or no?

bazare
27th July, 2011, 09:56 PM
kess clone is a bulls**t, don't work on most of the protocols. No chance for edc17 ... it was never designed to work on those.

noriginal
29th July, 2011, 12:16 AM
This clone is big assh*le sh*t.. I tested on EDC16U34 on few VWs, EDC16C3 on Renault, EDC16C2 on Mercedes C220 cdi, etc etc not reading/writing at all. Tested on magpro 3.x up to 4.2 and shi*.


my clone of Kess that i use with software mag work on all car that you have try

problem is quality of clone i think

sorry

noriginal
29th July, 2011, 12:28 AM
kess clone is a bulls**t, don't work on most of the protocols. No chance for edc17 ... it was never designed to work on those.


next week i want try mi kess clone with module x17
my friend tell me that work well (not sure for me)
i will try

possible for you?

scarymistake
2nd August, 2011, 02:00 PM
next week i want try mi kess clone with module x17
my friend tell me that work well (not sure for me)
i will try

possible for you?
Where did you bought module x17 (P.M. me)

psico
2nd August, 2011, 03:11 PM
MODULE X17 CLON???????????????

buy buy buy...jajajajaja

good information

bazare
2nd August, 2011, 04:19 PM
there is no clone X17 ... only clone kess1

Raptor181
6th August, 2011, 08:09 PM
next week i want try mi kess clone with module x17
my friend tell me that work well (not sure for me)
i will try

possible for you?

You have KESS clone and Module X17 original?
Work 100%?:hmmmm:

powertdi
7th August, 2011, 09:09 PM
Very intresting to test. I was thinking about to. I wonder if it WORKS! What ECU you want test?

kokkinos panos
8th August, 2011, 10:29 PM
hello all

im sorry to hijacking !!!

i would like to ask for your experience about

kess and iaw6lp marelli ecu.

friend of mine need to tune a peugeot with such an ecu

and he uses software of race2000.

problem is that we need interface that will read

this 6lp in more bytes than galletto reads<64k>

cause race2000 cant work with this small map.

question is:can kess clone read more bytes than 64k?

also he owns dimsport org but this tool can only write

not read!!!

thank you Panos

noriginal
9th August, 2011, 01:18 AM
x17 is original
and kess is clone

x17 v3.10 work

powertdi
10th August, 2011, 10:23 PM
NoORiginal, what ECU you have tested? Do you read and write by OBD ?

marujon
10th August, 2011, 10:45 PM
Hi. I Used first time, and first have some problems, that solved easily. First of all, reduce speed to slow... many problems are with high speed selected. In edc15 select FOREVER SLOW . I tried to read edc15 of my xsara and that was the only way to go ok (slow). In my altea edc16, I selected u version, but worked in edc16plus version . In galletto 1260 worked ok with edc16u1/u31 selectec... I selected slow in edc16 too, if you dont want to loss data packets. Dont risk with this clone, and every time select SLOW, this is more secure ..if you dont want break a ecu, waste time waiting jejejje. I used magpro 4.2 version and flashtec 13.1 . In another forums talks about kess clone is blocking many ecus, including edc15. I think this is because they sell original programmers and want to talk bad about clones. I recongnize original is better and secure, but clones , if you do questions before you do a ecu in the forum, people can tell if works or doesnt works. I've gal1260 and is very good for the cost (20usd), mpps does more cars but if goes with gal do with galletto . Now, kess cost more money 230 eur plus adouanne 42 eur=270 eur. I hope this does new ecus (I dont expect edc17, but be more secure in latest edc16 ecu thqt mpps blocks or gal1260 doesnt do.). Please write your experiences with kess clone :) . I will do a list with cars read/written ok. :wink:

Harrycz44
24th August, 2011, 09:54 AM
Hello all I read Ford Fieasta 1.4 TDCi with KESS clone v3.0 and I think that files is bad.. pleas can you look for this dump?? thank you

acrilio
3rd July, 2012, 02:19 PM
just one thing, the clone Kess writes the code for the injectors? thanks

ross79ta
3rd July, 2012, 02:57 PM
Yes it does.

acrilio
3rd July, 2012, 03:00 PM
ok, thanks

ross79ta
3rd July, 2012, 08:19 PM
if you want, please click thanks button ;)