key cutting machine advice and feedback from all user

[hauwkee]

i have usde hpc punch an blitz i love the blitz but there some friend locksmith only swear with the punch .In this section we want talk about duplicating /copy machine

PUNCH
It s compact no power source need can cut most single double sided key in less than a minute
the main problem of the punch is that when you Punch it actually make a game with the spacing because of the movement you can see that very clearly when you cut a small key mail box file cabinet u bend the key

Also the insert of the key big head like silca Europe got to fold the handle to make a key
and some key are hard to hold on the second side like GM 10cut
toyota 10 cut but we get around after a while u make one with the machine and u anticipate mistake and "miscalibration"

blitz
what i love about it is that the cutter cut the key no pressure on the key
very easy accurate and fast to used especially then decoding locks

there is a very good kit to cut tibbe key

I also used silca tricode i now need you to give me feed back on few machine the 3dpro,miracle a5 /chaka bay

thanks

[THeFOg]

Hi m8

I just got it after 2 months of waiting.

When i run it i will feed back to you but like it seems the machine made from high quality, just take time to get one.
from what i know they built it from zero every thing is check twice but still missing the kit for the van mount.

The blitz is great and i wish i had punch for some jobs (stairs and under 7`).

[hauwkee]

which machine u wait 2 month for

[THeFOg]

Sorry i did wrote at the title but i waited for the 3d pro machine.

[albertros]

I find this site?

Laser Key Products 3D PRO High Security Key Machine with 2 Jaws [machine_3dpro] - $5,750.00 : American Key Supply, The Locksmith's Source for Keys & Tools (http://americankeysupply.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=428)

[ray-ray]

stay away from 3d pro,2month to get and how long to get it repair? hpc blitz will out do the punch.
blitz can do many more things with the attachment.like ace key ,tibby key , safebox keys and so on.

[m3m5]

I'm going to buy miracle A5.

Anyone has it? i have listened that can make 95% car keys.

[koziolek]

where you buying from miracle A5?

[hauwkee]

available thru keyless ride $4,500
but i need advice about it
Also Ray Ray is right i email the guy from 3d pro to ask him to ship it FRANCE and to loaded with key for european market and ask them about calibrating machine or repair what to do ? still waiting for answer ?
this company AE tool have some good tool but the marketing customer services sucks don t want to think about technical issue because that sucks probably
i like the miracle a5 cause i does tibia hi sec double side and loaded with european market and instacode but i m not sure about battery inside and motor power need ur help

[ray-ray]

jim hethler is sell those unit in the usa,good machine.i hear that the motor is a little slow to cut key,they need
to put a stronger motor.

[THeFOg]

Hi M8
First of all i want to say is that I got nothing to do with Laser Key Products company by any mean what so ever beside that i bought from them the 3D PRO machine, i talk only from my 3 months experience with them.

Like many companies with new products it take time to keep up to the market, they did not know how many locksmiths need this type of machinery at that price (USA company and product NOT MADE IN CHINA!!!!).
Maybe to repair it take time and maybe not, there are alot of questions just like any company with a new product.
I don`t compare them to HPC or any big company out there.
I believe this is not the last thing from them, they got good products and they out there for some time with staff for the blitz too, so you can check them out.
They work only with there own software and you get it with the machine for free!!! (need to download from there website), and upgrade for $125 first time and $25 every year for keycode application to there software for automated key cutting.




stay away from 3d pro,2month to get and how long to get it repair? hpc blitz will out do the punch.
blitz can do many more things with the attachment.like ace key ,tibby key , safebox keys and so on.

[m3m5]

where you buying from miracle A5?

you can see in their web Distributors (http://www.lockdecoders.com/acatalog/Distributors.html)

I'm asking price, in England distru?ibutor it's cheaper than Spain, but I don't know if I have to pay vat.

England told me 3880 pounds sterling and 50 pound for shippment.

Here, in Spain it's 5400 eur + tax 18%

[jamesnz888]

I'm going to buy miracle A5.

Anyone has it? i have listened that can make 95% car keys.

Hi All,

After evaluated many machine like Silca Viper, Keyline 994, 3DPro and Miracle A5, I bought one Miracle A5 last week and expect to receive it soon. I got a good price for my machine.

My friend has a 3Dpro bought in USA and it cuts OK, but every now and then it cuts bad keys, at some stage it cuts badly, wasted 4 blanks before 5th came good. my friend also complaits that the support is very patchy in USA. maybe your local distributor can do a better support.

There are many videos on youtube for Miracle A5 and 3Dpro, check them out and you will see the difference.

[koziolek]

How about buying Miracle A5 from china?

[jamesnz888]

How about buying Miracle A5 from china?

Miracle A5 is made in Korea and there is no distributor available in China yet, I bought from a Taiwan company and they do provide professional advices and support.

once my machine arrives I will do some testing then.

[koziolek]

can I know that seller from Taiwan?

[ray-ray]

all digital h.s. machine should come with back-up manual machine.
i have the matrix slx 2 speed motor with instacode 2010
and a brain that is "focus".took many job away for digital
h.s. machine due to broken cutter or no bitting info. i did
4 month of work for don's lock and key when there unit
went down "ilco" they had no back up machine.

[drivesure]

3d pro back up sucks. i waited 3 months for my machine and am still waitin - now 6 months - for the tibbe attachment. i shudder to think what will happen when this thing breaks.

[lockbreaker]

Shutter and shutter somemore. Tech sucks at Laser.