peugeot 206 1.9d dw8 engine p0215 solenoids relay fault

[aidyk]

hi

anyone had this before and actually got to the bottom of it.?
ive checked wiring etc no corrosion or signs of it, but when it takes notions not to start there is no engine light or glow plug light and no buzzing from advance solenoid..!!
its running at the moment but im afraid to send young girl out in it encase it stops again..

regards

[Larue]

And what about relay module. These are common faults.
Are there all power supplies and grounds to ECU when it's not starting?

[aidyk]

its going at the min hard to say but sure as i send it out it will pack up. usual story..
which relay module.? glow plug timer was changed by other garage.
car is 2004 as far as i know, where is relay.? i thought ecu was fed by engine bay fusebox just..? bsm is it called.
maybe this is what your talking bout..? :)

[chacarita]

its going at the min hard to say but sure as i send it out it will pack up. usual story..
which relay module.? glow plug timer was changed by other garage.
car is 2004 as far as i know, where is relay.? i thought ecu was fed by engine bay fusebox just..? bsm is it called.
maybe this is what your talking bout..? :)
chek if you have in bsm fuse number 2 if you haveit remove, erase error and disconect batery some time then conect bateri and i think is allright chek i dont be sure but i think is fuse n2 check with manual if any fuse is in place to not be for these motor this hapend to my a lot of time

[Albanais]

Yes as Chacarita noticed it check if the fuse NR 2 it is fitted in or not, if yes just pull it out and erase the fault.

[aidyk]

hi car fusebox fuse 2 is for evaporitive purge valve fuel pump on petrol models am i correct.? some dickhead had fitted a brand new out of place looking 20amp fuse :)
i removed it heated glow plugs and it fired straight away. what effect was this having on ecu etc.? i had car going last night but it took sometime.
many thanks though, this forum is pretty damn cool :)

[aidyk]

this heap has lay down again. same story no glow light or engine light, are them bsm,s coded or can i fit second hand unit.?

[Albanais]

Yes you can fit a second hand, it is plug and play so it does not need any programation

[Albanais]

Yes you can fit a second hand, it is plug and play so it does not need any programing

[aidyk]

fitted second hand bsm to this car and its no better, it was from a 1.4 petrol tho does this matter,? has anyone a wiring diagram for this ecu.?
still no glow plugs and no engine light or communication, must be a missing power supply. anyone had this before.?

[Liteace]

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[Liteace]

A5, instrament penel
B54, Crank PS
A204, AC cut off control module
K275, Immo system relay
A11, multifunction control module
A104 glow plug contol module
K22, glow relay
S205, glow plug engine coolent temp sensor
K96, egr relay
Y28, egr solenoid
A150, injection pump assembly
R5, glow plugs

[aidyk]

A5, instrament penel
B54, Crank PS
A204, AC cut off control module
K275, Immo system relay
A11, multifunction control module
A104 glow plug contol module
K22, glow relay
S205, glow plug engine coolent temp sensor
K96, egr relay
Y28, egr solenoid
A150, injection pump assembly
R5, glow plugs
i have autodata also my friend ive already looked it up and can also get wiring diagram for version up to 2000. thanks anyway

i need a wiring diagram for 2001-

has anyone else a wiring diagram for 2003 1.9 dw8 engine 206.? or a solution for this intermitent fault,?

[chacarita]

Post vin mumber

[aidyk]

Post vin mumber

VF32AWJYF42022117

[nickhow]

check main earth cable to g/box to chassis

[ammarben]

he is your schematic from peugeot servicebox

[chacarita]

heres is wiring diagram, tellme wath is the preoblem, the car start?, dodyou have comuncication with ecu?, read codes ecu and bsi?

[ammarben]

i cannot attach a schematic

[aidyk]

heres is wiring diagram, tellme wath is the preoblem, the car start?, dodyou have comuncication with ecu?, read codes ecu and bsi?
hi thanks
problem is car has no communication wont start cant read codes unless it starts then it throws yhe code i posted at beginning p0215.
its like it lost power to ecu i tried bsm from 1.4i looks same but still no glow light or comms.
earth to body is ok all fuses etc ok.

[ammarben]

the DW8 1.9D engine is very simple to start the injection pump
contain a coded shut off valve you can remove it and replace by simple solenoid i have done this in my car xsara 1.9d

[chacarita]

hi thanks
problem is car has no communication wont start cant read codes unless it starts then it throws yhe code i posted at beginning p0215.
its like it lost power to ecu i tried bsm from 1.4i looks same but still no glow light or comms.
earth to body is ok all fuses etc ok.
Forget all you do an start again, first you have to be communication whith ecu motor, for be sure you need check a good ground in L4 and M4 pin and key + in pin B4 all in brown conector, the check wire frmo ecu to OBD

[chacarita]

the DW8 1.9D engine is very simple to start the injection pump
contain a coded shut off valve you can remove it and replace by simple solenoid i have done this in my car xsara 1.9d
Is not so easy this is a dw8b with electronic advance by inyector with a sensor to send postition of inyector, if you remove electrovalvle and ecu dont start , advanve is for default to max position and insnt good thing

[ammarben]

i have do that in my car xsara and it work perfect solenoid advance also work so remove this coded valve and reply

[ammarben]

the preheating is very important in DW8 if there is no glow plug the motor dont start so firt check if there is 12V in glow plug -second check if there the injectors deliver gazoline unscrew one of the pipe injectors the pump is a simple mecanical if it rotate it deliver zagoline and i am sure that the advanced solenoid work i hava done that before folow the schematic of chacarita

[chacarita]

i have do that in my car xsara and it work perfect solenoid advance also work so remove this coded valve and reply
In thi case is not like you if ecu dont work and you replace sonenoid start original for one basic without inmo the car will be strart but ecu not beacuse you dont reapair de original problem an then advaced solenoid dont work beacose ecu dosnt work

[ammarben]

off corse if the ECU dont work then advaced solenoid dont work also so he must first chek the 12v in ECU pin and check a good ground in L4 and M4if all is OK so the probleme is in yhe pump

[Liteace]

i have autodata also my friend ive already looked it up and can also get wiring diagram for version up to 2000. thanks anyway

i need a wiring diagram for 2001-

has anyone else a wiring diagram for 2003 1.9 dw8 engine 206.? or a solution for this intermitent fault,?

Sorry Mate didnt see year, looks like you've got it now

[Albanais]

I have already done a couple of this solenoid replacements from three wires to a simple one but only when I have had problem with immo. i have not encountered problem since. Car will start anyway even if you have not communications with engine ecu but I can not guaranty the performances of this engine, whatever. As mates send you before the schematics just make sure that feedings are in order, then if the feedings are okay you must check the K lines(in French we call them the CAN and CAN+ two twisted wires. If you have no joy still then I suggest you to check all the (eppissures or Junctions). If your vehicle has a bsi then i suggest you to check inside it for water ingress, well known already for me as i working only with French cars

[aidyk]

Forget all you do an start again, first you have to be communication whith ecu motor, for be sure you need check a good ground in L4 and M4 pin and key + in pin B4 all in brown conector, the check wire frmo ecu to OBD

hi
only getting back to this now.
thanks for all info much appreciated. i used wiring diagrams and checked earths and ignition feed, all ok. L4 M4 and B4..!!
i checked loom where water lies usually also and its ok also.
still no glow light, engine light or communication with scantool etc.
so does this leave me with engine ecu faulty or bsi problem.?

i had car going before and everything perfect but customer got car back only 2 days and came out to go to work one morning and dead. the only code that was stored when i got car going last time was p0215 like i posted at the start.

regards

[aidyk]

the DW8 1.9D engine is very simple to start the injection pump
contain a coded shut off valve you can remove it and replace by simple solenoid i have done this in my car xsara 1.9d
yours is older type my friend i have done many like you have :) but i have no glowplugs or communication or engine light.
regards

[chacarita]

yours is older type my friend i have done many like you have :) but i have no glowplugs or communication or engine light.
regards
If you check possitive , ground and obd line then you need get another ecu to probe, i dont know another thing to do

[aidyk]

If you check possitive , ground and obd line then you need get another ecu to probe, i dont know another thing to do
bsi wouldnt stop engine, glowlights working.?
so looking like ecu itself :?

[chacarita]

bsi wouldnt stop engine, glowlights working.?
so looking like ecu itself :?
Bsi dont stop engine but can do a non start, if engine is runnig bsi cant stop, if engine is stop bsi can do a not start engine by inmo, but in this case you can connect scaner, wath code is BSI?

[aidyk]

Bsi dont stop engine but can do a non start, if engine is runnig bsi cant stop, if engine is stop bsi can do a not start engine by inmo, but in this case you can connect scaner, wath code is BSI?
i just checked, in bsi i get fault.

no communication between bsi and engine ecu.!

[aidyk]

can i fit a used ecu in this.? has it 24c02 or something simple to swap..?

[chacarita]

Yes ia a 95080, you can swap eprom

[chacarita]

this is a virgin file to program with pps like new ecu pass in your pm

[bsv2001]

May be this is immo problem It can block fuel pump to start Do you hear noise near fuel pump when ignition on?
If no immo dont give to start

[aidyk]

tried another ecu out of other car and still no warning lights.
the owner took ecu from problem car and tried it in donor car and it was ok so that kinda rules out ecu.
can bsi shut this down.? im thinking it or else broken wire. as ive tried ecu. bsm fusebox under bonnet and the ignition feed and 2 earths from diagrams 1 of you guys kindly sent.

regards

[chacarita]

Dou you check wire 9000 and 9001? this is red can wire connect ecu with bsi pleas do a test global and post every defect present

[alejuz]

Dou you check wire 9000 and 9001? this is red can wire connect ecu with bsi pleas do a test global and post every defect present

hi chacarita!
programming is required to read the dump?

Hola chacarita, que programa es necesario para leer esa memoria?
thanks

[chacarita]

you need any programer is a lot of options like upa for example, but you dont nned onli soft you need a hard too.
Necesitas cualquier programador, no solo el programa, tambien el soft, hay mucho y depende de lo que quieras hacer te va acomvenir uno u otro, fijate que memorias queres hacer y busca el programador acorde a tu trabajo, el upa es muy flexible hay otros tambien