Please Bora/Jetta Pincode

[teuton]

Hi Mates,

can someone give me the Pin code from the ECU-dump please. Car is a 2006 VW Bora (so called here in Mexico), in other places it's called Jetta.


Thanks a lot

[roth18]

Try and see if works 1185

[teuton]

Try and see if works 1185


Thanks a lot, but code doesnt work.

Any other suggestions?

[boratokm]

HOLA TEUTON EL CODIGO ES CORRECTO 01185 OCUPA VER EN CON EL VAG COM SI NO ESTA BLOQUEADO EL CUADRO QUE VAS HACER A PROGRAMAR LA LLAVE O ADAPTAR ECU

SALUDOS

OCTAVIO

[Jeanhdo]

Hi Mates,

can someone give me the Pin code from the ECU-dump please. Car is a 2006 VW Bora (so called here in Mexico), in other places it's called Jetta.


Thanks a lot

Leave the ignition on for 15 minutes without turning off the ignition to start the programming.
I made a key that only worked Bora leaving the ignition on for 15 minutes.

[roth18]

Thanks a lot, but code doesnt work.

Any other suggestions?

Did you wait for some time with the key on? Maybe dash is locked. You have to wait some time with the key on to unlock. Use your scanner to see how much time you have to wait. Go to VCDS support site to find where you have to look on your car.

[teuton]

Hi mates,

in the first place I want to thank you for your help.

I just find out that I?ll need the pin code from the used ecu as well to make the adaptation and I want to ask if someone could provide me the pin code from the attached file.

Another question is wether it's possible to overwrite the eeprom of the ecu I want to put in with the dump of the old ecu I?m going to change. Would this be a way around the adaptation or would it mess up things?

And finally how do guys know in which direction the pin code is stored or is this top secret?


Once more a whole bunch of thanks

[roth18]

Why overwrite, isn't it easier to switch them?

02951

PIN in 42 & 43 and than again 52 & 53

algo $AB $CD -> $CD $AB -> dec

[antioqueno]

Hi Mates,

can someone give me the Pin code from the dashboard-dump please. Car is a 2008 VW Jetta (so called here in Mexico), in other places it's called Jetta.


Thanks a lot

[andresfn18]

Hi Mates,

can someone give me the Pin code from the dashboard-dump please. Car is a 2008 VW Jetta (so called here in Mexico), in other places it's called Jetta.


Thanks a lot
Your pin is 9414:ciao:

[angmar]

Hello try pin 09414.
BR

[antioqueno]

Your pin is 9414:ciao:

thanks
el lunes lo probare

[angmar]

sorry I was late

[antioqueno]

Hello try pin 09414.
BR
thanks
el lunes lo probare
gracias

[teuton]

Hi mates,

i still can't make any progress. I figured out how to calculate the pin code, thanks to roth's explaination. But...
Neither of the two codes would be accepted by any of the computers. not the old one and not the new (used) one.

As I was told that vag-com 704 wouldn' t do this, I tried the adaptation with vcds 10.6 (clone) and with vcds 8.05 as well, . Do the latter ones allow this kind of adaptation?

One last thing is that the immo system is labeled as immo IV, challenge. Is it possible that the PIN of this kind of immo is hidden in different adress of the dump than 42-43 and 52-53?


Thank you all for your time and help. Please enlighten me.

BR.

[roth18]

9414

Location -> 10a&10b, 10c&10d, 10e&10f

Algo -> $AB $CD -> $CD $AB -> dec (the same).

[roth18]

Hi mates,

i still can't make any progress. I figured out how to calculate the pin code, thanks to roth's explaination. But...
Neither of the two codes would be accepted by any of the computers. not the old one and not the new (used) one.

As I was told that vag-com 704 wouldn' t do this, I tried the adaptation with vcds 10.6 (clone) and with vcds 8.05 as well, . Do the latter ones allow this kind of adaptation?

One last thing is that the immo system is labeled as immo IV, challenge. Is it possible that the PIN of this kind of immo is hidden in different adress of the dump than 42-43 and 52-53?


Thank you all for your time and help. Please enlighten me.

BR.

Take it easy. read this (http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/cars/immobilizer.html) a couple of times. There is also a ton of stuff on DK and I can upload some stuff later.

I don't have a clear picture what you are trying to do. You have to explain the issue a bit better.

[teuton]

thanks again roth18,

I'm trying to change the faulty engine ecu for another one. the old ECU won't perform throttle body alignment. car starts with it, but doesn't accelerate and there are app and tps faults present.
the new (used) ECU will do the throttle body alignment in basic settings and also the throttle body would work in a different car, as well as the tps and pp sensor, This tells me that the old ECU is faulty.
with the new ECU car will die after 3 seconds because it's not matched to the immo and the keys won't be recognized.
Entering the pin codes which you and boratokm gave to me, the engine controller doesn't accept the pin code, not with the old and not with the new ECU.
as i figured out that the ystem is immo IV, I tried the slightly different procedure for this type as well, going to security accrss (16) rather than login (11), still witout succes.

Is it possible that the pin code is in a different locatio than $42-$43?
Which version of VCDS is capable of doing this adaptation?

Sorry for being that ignorant, but I still don't get it.

THANKS, J?rgen

[antioqueno]

Your pin is 9414:ciao:

Thanks is ok. work

[antioqueno]

Hello try pin 09414.
BR

Thanks is ok. work

[roth18]

OK, once again.

Immo 3 shows 14-digit Immo-ID, immo 4 does not show 14-digit Immo-ID. Immo 4 shows "challenge" that changes every time you cycle the key.

To swap the ECUs you will need:

1. PIN from the new (used) ECU and PIN from the old ECU.

Procedure (for IMMO 4:

Prerequisites:



The NEW (USED) ECU is already installed in the car.
Battery voltage at least 12.0 V.
All relevant coding and adaptation values have been transferred from the OLD (ORIGINAL) ECU to the NEW (USED) ECU.
Make sure to have BOTH PIN's, from the OLD (ORIGINAL) and the NEW (USED) ECU.


[Select]
[01 - Engine]


[Security Access - 16]
For the following procedure, use the PIN of the NEW (USED) ECU.
There are 2 possibilities how to enter a PIN, choose the one that applies for you.



4/5-digit PIN

The PIN needs to be entered as 5-digit number. For example, if your PIN is 1234, enter 01234.


7-digit PIN

[Use 7-digit PIN/SKC]
Enter the 7-digit PIN, Date on which the PIN was generated by the dealer, along with the Workshop Code (WSC) and the Importer number of the dealer that generated the code.
[OK]
VAG-COM will validate the data you have entered and return you to the Login screen, where the Login Code will show as "XXXXX".



[Do it!]





The instrument cluster now shows Immobilizer Adaptation active, wait until it changes to Immobilizer active - this may take up to 2 Minutes.


[Adaptation - 10]
Enter 050 in "Channel Number".
[Read]
For the following procedure, use the PIN of the OLD (ORIGINAL) ECU.
There are 2 possibilities how to enter a PIN, choose the one that applies for you.



4/5-digit PIN

The PIN needs to be entered as 5-digit number. For example, if your PIN is 1234, enter 01234.


7-digit PIN

[Use 7-digit PIN/SKC]
Enter the 7-digit PIN, Date on which the PIN was generated by the dealer, along with the Workshop Code (WSC) and the Importer number of the dealer that generated the code.
[OK]
VAG-COM will validate the data you have entered and return you to the Login screen, where the Login Code will show as "XXXXX".



[Test]
Check the 1st measuring value.
[Save]
[Done, Go Back]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]





Switch OFF the ignition and let the car sit for ~1 minute, then switch ON the ignition again.
Verify that the NEW (USED) ECU now shows the VIN (and if supported IMMO-ID) of the vehicle now.
The challenge of instrument cluster and ECU never matches, so don't bother checking them.


If all fails try to swap EEPROM

[teuton]

Hi m8s,

finally got it done. The provided pins were correct. I don't know why the engine controller rejected the pin that often, but finally it was accepted and then everything went smooth. I want to thank all of you who helped me with this, especially Roth18, who had a lot of pacience with me.


THANK YOU,


TEUTON

[learing1]

for bora 2006 ori.rar (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachments/f178/47764d1296012127-please-bora-jetta-pincode-bora-2006-ori.rar)

TRY: 02951

[eliotroyano]

Hi Mates,
can someone give me the Pin code from the dashboard-dump please. Car is a 2008 VW Jetta (so called here in Mexico), in other places it's called Jetta.
Thanks a lot


Thanks is ok. work

Antioqueno please can you share the part number of that cluster? do you have a pic of the sticker of the dashboard? it is VDO?

[malc3469]

Hi guys ,

one can confirm the pin extracted from the dump of this board is correct? I see 02816 in dir 088, 08c, and 090.

I have to put this board used in the car, and I need code, customer have the pin of the car .

Car: VW Voyage / goal trend (brazilian), Motorola 3L16Y, 2011.

thank you very much.

[malc3469]

Please some help testing the code?

If I enter the original code manually on the used board, I have to program the keys?

It would be much appreciated.:beerglass:
Thanks.

[eliotroyano]

Friends can you help me to get the pin code of my VW 2002 Golf GTI 1.8T AGU engine ECU 06A906018CG dump?
Thanks in advance.

[richard27]

Friends can you help me to get the pin code of my VW 2002 Golf GTI 1.8T AGU engine ECU 06A906018CG dump?
Thanks in advance.

2193 or 1930 try please

[eliotroyano]

2193 or 1930 try please Friend I try both without luck!!!! can you check it?

[malc3469]

Friend I try both without luck!!!! can you check it?
try 08224 , 04656 , 01045, 04096, 04712, 05380, 02305, 07808 , 08487, 08240,
these are the possible combinations i see in your program, good luck.
if someone can check my dump posted above would appreciate it.
:burnout:

[eliotroyano]

try 08224 , 04656 , 01045, 04096, 04712, 05380, 02305, 07808 , 08487, 08240,
these are the possible combinations i see in your program, good luck.
if someone can check my dump posted above would appreciate it.
:burnout:
But why so many options? how do you calc it from dump?

[smokey08]

Are you sure your ecu has a pin? AGU is an old engine. check instument cluster and see if it displays you VIN when you connect to it. I have a feeling this ecu maybe immo2.

[malc3469]

But why so many options? how do you calc it from dump?
post #8 of this tread, i download the dump, swap. convert to decimal, and search in the dump the number with four places, the code repites some times in the dump, add 0 in first palce and you have the inmo, this is that in some cars, but if you don?t have any other way to now the code try this with vag com.
i need to a inmo code from my dash dump too, so i searching info abaut some how know, you are trying to coding a new key or a swap some part (ecu,dash,inmo box)??

another way to have de inmo: *reading with some obd2 pin reader
* reading and locate in ecu or inmo box. but for this procedure you need a user with nows the addres of the innmo, in the dash is no problem check because is a short program.

[eliotroyano]

Are you sure your ecu has a pin? AGU is an old engine. check instument cluster and see if it displays you VIN when you connect to it. I have a feeling this ecu maybe immo2.

Here is the AutoScan of the car:

Address 01 ------------------------------------
Controller: 06A 906 018 CG
Component: 1.8L R4/5VT MOTR HS D02
Coding: 04000
Shop #: WSC 01317
No fault code found.

Address 03 ---------------------------------------
Controller: 1C0 907 379 J
Component: ABS FRONT MK60 0103
Coding: 0001025
Shop #: WSC 01317
No fault code found.

Skipping Address 15-Airbags

Address 17 --------------------------------------
Controller: 1J0 920 826 A
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. RB8 V11
Coding: 05102
Shop #: WSC 00000
WVWZZZ1JZ2W420330 VWZ6Z0A4031013
No fault code found.

Address 19 ----------------------------------------
Controller: 6N0 909 901
Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001
Coding: 00006
Shop #: WSC 01317
No fault code found.

Address 46 -------------------------------------
Controller: 1C0 959 799 B
Component: 1C Komfortger?t HLO 0003
Coding: 00259
Shop #: WSC 01317
No fault code found.

End ---------------------------------------------

AS you can see at least the dash is IMMO3. Then how do I know if it have a PIN (ECU or Dash) and how do I get it?

[eliotroyano]

post #8 of this tread, i download the dump, swap. convert to decimal, and search in the dump the number with four places, the code repites some times in the dump, add 0 in first palce and you have the inmo, this is that in some cars, but if you don?t have any other way to now the code try this with vag com.
i need to a inmo code from my dash dump too, so i searching info abaut some how know, you are trying to coding a new key or a swap some part (ecu,dash,inmo box)??

I want to do a dash swap.


another way to have de inmo: *reading with some obd2 pin reader
* reading and locate in ecu or inmo box. but for this procedure you need a user with nows the addres of the innmo, in the dash is no problem check because is a short program.

What do you mean with a short program????? I obtain the modules info of the car with a KKL interface and VagCom.

[malc3469]

I mean short program with low storage capacity. if you got in a 29fxxx ECU is a very large memory to search.
The right thing for this would be a program such as ICC and a programmer as BeeProg, so you pull the code from the board, the codes that I have given, the search program for my surfing, without software support.
Well I guess you've read and what he says wikirosstech.

the vag com, read immo id, but that's not the code that you need I think,

some more experienced user who can help please?:bebored:

[eliotroyano]

Here is the AutoScan of the car:

Address 01 ------------------------------------
Controller: 06A 906 018 CG
Component: 1.8L R4/5VT MOTR HS D02
Coding: 04000
Shop #: WSC 01317
No fault code found.

Address 03 ---------------------------------------
Controller: 1C0 907 379 J
Component: ABS FRONT MK60 0103
Coding: 0001025
Shop #: WSC 01317
No fault code found.

Skipping Address 15-Airbags

Address 17 --------------------------------------
Controller: 1J0 920 826 A
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. RB8 V11
Coding: 05102
Shop #: WSC 00000
WVWZZZ1JZ2W420330 VWZ6Z0A4031013
No fault code found.

Address 19 ----------------------------------------
Controller: 6N0 909 901
Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001
Coding: 00006
Shop #: WSC 01317
No fault code found.

Address 46 -------------------------------------
Controller: 1C0 959 799 B
Component: 1C Komfortger?t HLO 0003
Coding: 00259
Shop #: WSC 01317
No fault code found.

End ---------------------------------------------

AS you can see at least the dash is IMMO3. Then how do I know if it have a PIN (ECU or Dash) and how do I get it?

Anyone have any ideas about this? I know that exist some pin reader or eeprom reader software that can be used with KKL interface to obtain that pin, that I can not find. Maybe I can find Vag K+Can Commander from a friend, but right now this is that I have right now.

[smokey08]

No VIN in engine ecu? I still think its immo2 ecu and immo3 dash. try going into 01-engine, 10-adaption, channel 00 and save. Do the same for 17-instruments then learn keys and see if it works.

[eliotroyano]

No VIN in engine ecu? I still think its immo2 ecu and immo3 dash. try going into 01-engine, 10-adaption, channel 00 and save. Do the same for 17-instruments then learn keys and see if it works.

That means that my ECU does not have pin and only requires adaptation for an Ecu Swap also Ecu Serial Dump doesn't have a pin code in it and for a Dash Swap that is what I want, I need the pin code of the dash (old & new ones) to proceed with a Immo III Cluster/Swap procedure... right?????

Then my big question is how do I get the pin codes? Here I send you the info of both dashboards (old one is the RB8 and new one is the V75), what do you recommend me????

[haroutioun]

That means that my ECU does not have pin and only requires adaptation for an Ecu Swap also Ecu Serial Dump doesn't have a pin code in it and for a Dash Swap that is what I want, I need the pin code of the dash (old & new ones) to proceed with a Immo III Cluster/Swap procedure... right?????

Then my big question is how do I get the pin codes? Here I send you the info of both dashboards (old one is the RB8 and new one is the V75), what do you recommend me????
Hello,
1) (Maybe I can find Vag K+Can Commander) if u can get that tool Vag K+Can Commander,so u have to (try).
2) install your new (DASH 1J5) and try get the pin code after go to login use the pin code after (adaptation 10) & in Chanel 21 try how many keys u want to adapt and after save or do it, see if the immo led goes off in the dash if goes off this mean it accept the keys to your new dash,after try start the car, if the car start and after 1 second stop try to adapt the same which write to u, our friend (smokey08).
3) NB:u must have (VCDS) because maybe after install this YOUR (DASH 1J5) abs on or airbag on or.......,so in this case must do coding,maybe the coding to can accept maybe no,so all u have to try.

[eliotroyano]

Hello,
1) (Maybe I can find Vag K+Can Commander) if u can get that tool Vag K+Can Commander,so u have to (try).

I can get it (Vag K+Can Commander V1.4 clone) in few days to test it.


2) install your new (DASH 1J5) and try get the pin code after go to login use the pin code after (adaptation 10) & in Chanel 21 try how many keys u want to adapt and after save or do it, see if the immo led goes off in the dash if goes off this mean it accept the keys to your new dash,after try start the car, if the car start and after 1 second stop try to adapt the same which write to u, our friend (smokey08).

Reading the RossTech Immo 3 cluster swap procedure I thought that I need the code of the "OLD" dash too?


3) NB:u must have (VCDS)

I already have VagCom 311 with KKL dumb interface.


because maybe after install this YOUR (DASH 1J5) abs on or airbag on or.......,so in this case must do coding,maybe the coding to can accept maybe no,so all u have to try.

This generate me a big doubt, then testing the new dash could be possible that my ABS and/or Airbag modules left "uncoded" or need "recode" again??? Can I think that I can maintain my old cluster as insurance allowing me to go back to the "old one" if anything doesn't work remaining the car as original without any change, recoding, keys matching or anything else???

Sorry to bother you with my questions I want to be sure about the procedure.

[eliotroyano]

I also found the following tab with one of my two OEM keys with my RB8 OEM cluster. Could be the OEM pin code there?

[smokey08]

That means that my ECU does not have pin and only requires adaptation for an Ecu Swap also Ecu Serial Dump doesn't have a pin code in it and for a Dash Swap that is what I want, I need the pin code of the dash (old & new ones) to proceed with a Immo III Cluster/Swap procedure... right?????

Then my big question is how do I get the pin codes? Here I send you the info of both dashboards (old one is the RB8 and new one is the V75), what do you recommend me????

Use instructions for immo2 cluster swap (http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Immobilizer_II_Immobilizer_Swapping_%28Instrument_ Cluster%29), You only need PIN from the new dash.

Search for "vag eeprom programmer 1.19" and use your kkl cable to get the PIN.

[eliotroyano]

Use instructions for immo2 cluster swap (http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Immobilizer_II_Immobilizer_Swapping_%28Instrument_ Cluster%29), You only need PIN from the new dash.
Search for "vag eeprom programmer 1.19" and use your kkl cable to get the PIN.

I will look for Vag Eeprom Programmer V1.19 to take the pin code and test it. I am also thinking in a wiring harness to test the new dash on bench before attemp to install it.

Now in case of any issue or problem can I go back to my old cluster without issue?????

Thanks a lot for the advice!!!!!!!

[Meat-Head]

Why overwrite, isn't it easier to switch them?

02951

PIN in 42 & 43 and than again 52 & 53

algo $AB $CD -> $CD $AB -> dec


9414

Location -> 10a&10b, 10c&10d, 10e&10f

Algo -> $AB $CD -> $CD $AB -> dec (the same).

*HELP*

Hi having no luck with this one, can somebody edit this enclosed dump - extracted using k-can 1.4

EDC 15 ECU

nothing work, pairing dash to ecu or vise versa.

edited eeprom dump in clocks, last thing is to edit ecu dump pincode, i'm too stupid to drive a caluclater to do it.

thanks

details in text file

*HELP*

[teuton]

Hi,

not that sure what you wanted. I'll add an off and the pin code, cheers

[Meat-Head]

Thank you

will look when get up

in bed been awake all nite

thank you

[Meat-Head]

Hi,

not that sure what you wanted. I'll add an off and the pin code, cheers


*DAMM* - *NEED* the pin code changing - from 2598 to 1027 - see text file.

unable to adapt ecu to clocks or clocks to ecu, nothing works.

[teuton]

O.K.

got it now , and you as well.... :party:


Might choose if off or not.

p.s. for future reference or other bloke:

pin code is stored twice, first in h12e, 12f and second in h160, 161. algo is CD AB to dec, so don't forget to swap bytes.

BR.