avdi users questions!

[norman1967]

It worked ok i check ecu and its display proper millage.

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Good to hear you tried. Don't forget thanks and rep buttons if my post helped you!

[gttuning]

Good to hear you tried. Don't forget thanks and rep buttons if my post helped you!
😀😀i try it befor i post it😀but thanks any way for taking time to replay

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[Aslock]

Hi does anyone know if you can program non oem keys for volkswagen and audi with the avdi ?

[shafo]

Hi does anyone know if you can program non oem keys for volkswagen and audi with the avdi ?

I do them almost every week!

[Aslock]

Thanks was making sure because I know with the mercedes keys it a problem

[gttuning]

Thanks was making sure because I know with the mercedes keys it a problem
Vw keys just read pin and program like with vcds.no problem

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[gttuning]

Hi guys A4 2009 spare key ..never done one but just want to ask which way you program them.
I have key put together..in side abrites board.
Just make dealer key and program?

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[lupu_sandu]

Yes, Audi BCM>Dealer key, then program

[cqae]

Hi guys, does anyone know if we can program a spare key with AVDI to a 2016 Audi A4 yet? I see they are available to buy online......

[JFR-Tuning]

Alekn:
With all do respect for you and for your help here on DK.
Me and many members need to know if Abritus will make some new updates in near future to implement some functions witch other (cheaper) tools have:
- ROM51 read pass,
- ESL repair,
- Repair radio bytes on ROM51,
- Support for BE China keys.
We all know that you don't represent AbritusLTD official here on DK and this is made by you on you free time, but we need some clarification.
Thank you and Happy New Year!

hi Lupu
hi DK members,

i write a lot of with that problem with Ivo from Abrites.
for ESL Repair I think they have a agreement with simontech. Simontech have the reading. From pass bevor Abrites and also the pass reading.
i know they work together. Ivo means they will check. It was in September of Frankfurt exhibition. If they will bring this Funktion, they have do it in the Update Januar 2017"

i buy simontech

[JFR-Tuning]

You can not program keys if immo is off

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wrong .

i test it

make firstly a dealerkey
programm this KEY after Dealer key as a normal. Than in display 1/2 is changed to 2/2 status

make immo off in ecu eeprom

make the Eeprom to Wp. status - means lift pin Wp. And connect it to Pcb Massa )

i have in Dezember the Problem, that i do. this Job many time by a Audi A3 with AVDI . No chance to match ecu and dash
I have all the times two different PIN mac, immo I'd , VIN , CS Code will be match but not the PIN

NO mistake in dash no mistake in ECU BY This way

work perfect

[JFR-Tuning]

All well and good martin
but like you
when I am going to spend thousands of my hard earned cash
i want to know what am spending it on

and AleKN is here by his own free will I understand this
and won't personally offend the guy if possible
as he's a rep and not his company
but bottom line he represents abrities

many questions could have been cleared up with simple few answers
or perhaps the right hand don't know what the left hand is doing


if the description of these updates be clearer
do t think half these debates would be happening

ps still not fixed the old shit that don't work yet
ford Vauxhall etc etc etc

think this more needed than a new menu

i meet Alek in Frankfurt.

it is a privat person free here in DK.

and please Check his answers with the results in the past. He can not answer... the politic of Abrites is changed and not of the hand of Alek.

if I buy the AVDI full a long time ago 7-8 years the update was free .... now?

i have also trouble with Abrites . Since the christmass offer I ask for a price of full update up to date. Also I order the RR012. No answer and now the will the full prices without the christmass discount ... is this fair ?

a long time in the past I can read the pin form renault megane 3 after 2011". Than they create the new Funktion RR012 and i lost this Job. They say it was a mistake that all have the Funktion to read the pin for cars after 2011 cars . Ok can Look you like. They make after we are using it a new function RR012. Ok i acept it BUT Not that they don't make my order in the christmass action and now I should pay full.

Otherwise I ask in the time of christmass offers for a price to stock my AVDI to full and they don't answer with a price, no one will pay first RR012 and than i have to full payed after pay 650 Eur

please I think the team of Abrites must think like they were In our position, old good customers which spend 1000 of Eur for a tool with in all cases not perfect .

[JFR-Tuning]

VITO Viano W639 with 2 x HC05 pass Reading with and WITHOUT working key not work
stop allways by step 1 , you have to pull out and pull in the key in EZS to go to the next step. But 8k times ?

3 times testet

read HC05 with R270 put dump in AVDI and press get pass . 10minutes ready

[JFR-Tuning]

I think Abrites have a big mistake in thinking about the buisenes.

all off us check for every Funtion how much they will be earn with it.

like renault megane 3 after 2011 i think will be make 10 Cards a year for this Modells

i think all of us do not only make renault and not after 2011. A Renault Dealer will not use the AVDI . If a customer buy a carkey from him he take the renault clip to make the job.

No customers of us arrive 500 + kilometers to us.

So you must make 100 card s if you pay for one card 40 Eur and can do it for 149 Eur . Internet Price on eBay.

So good , BUT after latest 2 years Abrites changed the Funktion numbers or create a new one. No one of us have earn so much that the old function is payed. You do this one ore two time, than not any more. You buy a other tool.

this politic is starting for 2 years ago. Than they can calculate when the time is coming where now one buy any more .

please Abrites Team check it for your self. I mean a good buiseness is only if everyone be happy

[ThiagoArgentino]

Friends,


I'm trying to make a key copy for a Mercedes-benz, CLC200, year 2010, with MN026. I can not get the password. Abrites says on the screen, that I have to virgin ESL. I can not find anything in the manual. Has anyone ever caught something like this?

[Mario3]

Friends,


I'm trying to make a key copy for a Mercedes-benz, CLC200, year 2010, with MN026. I can not get the password. Abrites says on the screen, that I have to virgin ESL. I can not find anything in the manual. Has anyone ever caught something like this?
Clc i has old technology eis from w203 not w204.

Remove eis inside is 9s12 and do it the old fashioned way.. or if you have v57 key then get key pass from it...

Rwgards

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[hass42]

Friends,


I'm trying to make a key copy for a Mercedes-benz, CLC200, year 2010, with MN026. I can not get the password. Abrites says on the screen, that I have to virgin ESL. I can not find anything in the manual. Has anyone ever caught something like this?
I have done this by making ESL virgin fist.
Also if you can, purchase a used ESL for vehicle make virgin plug in vehicle, get password. When done just plug back into original.
This is not very hard to virgin ESL, just makes things easier to have extra ESL as virgin.

Hass42

[ThiagoArgentino]

Thank you very much friends, made very clear to me now ...

[totalkey]

Failed on crafter edc16
Faild precoding passat pcf7936
What going on with your company?
No subaru fix yet!

[micromax]

Faild precoding passat pcf7936

what passat use pcf7936?

[pepi]

Fail to read old EDC15 eeprom

[totalkey]

2011+.........

[whiskeyman]

failed seat ibiza 2007
ad done in seconds

[isma123]

WHO CAN PINOUT ZN051 BOX ? IT SEEMS TO BE JUST A BUNDLE OF CABLE THAT EVERYONE OF US CAN FUBRISH FOR LESS THAN 50USD
AND WHAT RELAT IS ON IT
TNKS LOT FOR HELP

[Cr4nky]

I have done this by making ESL virgin fist.
Also if you can, purchase a used ESL for vehicle make virgin plug in vehicle, get password. When done just plug back into original.
This is not very hard to virgin ESL, just makes things easier to have extra ESL as virgin.

Hass42
If you are using a working key, I find once password extracted, the working key no longer works with original esl until you virginise and program it. So might as well just virginse the one on the vehicle in the first place.

But if using ir adapter as you say its easier just to plug in an already virginised one.

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[hass42]

If you are using a working key, I find once password extracted, the working key no longer works with original esl until you virginise and program it. So might as well just virginse the one on the vehicle in the first place.

But if using ir adapter as you say its easier just to plug in an already virginised one.

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I have done this twice, once with all keys lost. And other I made a spare key. I didn't have any problem with original key after making spare.

Maybe using existing key track of working key is where the problem is.
Maybe.. then again, I'm no expert.

Hass42

[cqae]

I had a similar issue with a w203 yesterday. was trying to read the password & its kept saying connect db25 pin 8 to lin which I did then the message on screen kept flickering, eventually I tried just pulling the IR reader out of the EIS & it said 1 of 8129, then each time I pulled it out it went up....................I couldnt sit there & do it 8000 times.....




VITO Viano W639 with 2 x HC05 pass Reading with and WITHOUT working key not work
stop allways by step 1 , you have to pull out and pull in the key in EZS to go to the next step. But 8k times ?

3 times testet

read HC05 with R270 put dump in AVDI and press get pass . 10minutes ready

[gttuning]

Failed on crafter edc16
Faild precoding passat pcf7936
What going on with your company?
No subaru fix yet!
Can you say more about this passat how did you try to precode this.?

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[JFR-Tuning]

I had a similar issue with a w203 yesterday. was trying to read the password & its kept saying connect db25 pin 8 to lin which I did then the message on screen kept flickering, eventually I tried just pulling the IR reader out of the EIS & it said 1 of 8129, then each time I pulled it out it went up....................I couldnt sit there & do it 8000 times.....

yes same problem i have also on some w203

also we read it on bench with R270.

not work to read this in car or you must 8000 times pull in and out the key

any m8 here other solution ?

i think is the HC05 or you must find a point to take the Relais

[hass42]

yes same problem i have also on some w203

also we read it on bench with R270.

not work to read this in car or you must 8000 times pull in and out the key

any m8 here other solution ?

i think is the HC05 or you must find a point to take the Relais
Of course reading on bench is way faster. We here in the US don't have it so easy with the extra support bars in dash to meet crash safety laws.

It's a lot harder to remove EIS for then the vehicles meant for European market.

So we'd rather wait for the 1- 8000 to hit.

Personally I love when when other shops bring me EIS already removed from vehicle.
I read with 9x12 and load dump to Abrites and easy job you right.
For us challenge is removal of EIS... Usually not so quick.

Hass42

[gttuning]

Last time i done 203 hc05 it took under 10min.
Lost keys.
Read pass with ir

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[Cr4nky]

I have done this twice, once with all keys lost. And other I made a spare key. I didn't have any problem with original key after making spare.

Maybe using existing key track of working key is where the problem is.
Maybe.. then again, I'm no expert.

Hass42
No didn't use existing track. With the one you made spare, did you use ir adapter or existing key to extract password?

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[hass42]

No didn't use existing track. With the one you made spare, did you use ir adapter or existing key to extract password?

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Existing key I used with protag

Hass42

[florinyes]

Guys had a Peugeot 1007 2006 1.6 petrol, been asked by garage to replace ecu..long story short transponder was lost. Made new transponder programmed it but lost remote now. I can,t program the remote any more but was working before. Any thoughts?


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[Fallen]

Guys had a Peugeot 1007 2006 1.6 petrol, been asked by garage to replace ecu..long story short transponder was lost. Made new transponder programmed it but lost remote now. I can,t program the remote any more but was working before. Any thoughts?


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Remote and transponder are linked, even though they are separate.
You cant change the transponder then program the remote back in.

Easiest option is a new key.

[Mario3]

Last time i done 203 hc05 it took under 10min.
Lost keys.
Read pass with ir

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908 you mean, and classic psw read over IR

Cause there is no 203 eis with hc05

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[khalcdi]

what passat use pcf7936?

passat with keyless entry.

[Mario3]

passat with keyless entry.
Should be pcf7946... not 36

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[ttzag]

Should be pcf7946... not 36

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passat with key less 7936
am always start this car with pcf 7936 by tango (just start ,no smart function ) and no need CS , tango do it automatically .
avdi cant do this car

[totalkey]

Can you say more about this passat how did you try to precode this.?

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in key learning passat 2011+ you have make a dealer key but its only show for id 48 so couldnt make it, trying abrites support but they told me to read manual, nothing about it in manual, only pcf7936 precode under touareg , but also no succsess
great support for such expansive tool, maybe im also need to tell all my costumers - read the manaul
what a joke
also got answer about subaru dont working - from now on subaru is not free anymore and need to buy function

[gttuning]

in key learning passat 2011+ you have make a dealer key but its only show for id 48 so couldnt make it, trying abrites support but they told me to read manual, nothing about it in manual, only pcf7936 precode under touareg , but also no succsess
great support for such expansive tool, maybe im also need to tell all my costumers - read the manaul
what a joke
also got answer about subaru dont working - from now on subaru is not free anymore and need to buy function
Im asking couse if its 1.6tdi i think you need unlock ecu first to get cs pin by ond.

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[rapidlocksmiths]

in key learning passat 2011+ you have make a dealer key but its only show for id 48 so couldnt make it, trying abrites support but they told me to read manual, nothing about it in manual, only pcf7936 precode under touareg , but also no succsess
great support for such expansive tool, maybe im also need to tell all my costumers - read the manaul
what a joke
also got answer about subaru dont working - from now on subaru is not free anymore and need to buy function

on my suppliers site , it clearly states that non smart key programming for the listed models is free , so yes ok to charge for new functions but what was advertised to avdi owners as free for all with ams should stay as free and cant just be taken away , surely not ? after all the news item advertising this free function is still on the website . ive no issues with charges for new functionality , but i do not agree with removing what was free to all owners with a valid ams . im not even sure this would be legal ? are you 100% sure that the non smart keys are no longer free as advertised ?

ABRITES DIAGNOSTICS FOR SUBARU 28.0
FRIDAY, 12 FEBRUARY 2016 12:21:26 EUROPE/LONDON
ABRITES Diagnostics for Subaru

- Oil change reset function for servicing
- DPF exchange for the vehicles equipped with the EE series Boxer Diesel engines
- DPF regeneration for the vehicles equipped with the EE series Boxer Diesel engines
- Key registration for Cars using CAN protocol: Subaru Forester, Impreza, Legacy, Outback 2.0 Boxer Diesel 2008 - 2013 (Non smart key system)
- Fuel pump duty cycle learning
- EGR valve opening angle learning
- Turbo vanes angles learning
- Added new actuators for actuator testing and update

Free for all AVDI owners

[totalkey]

Im asking couse if its 1.6tdi i think you need unlock ecu first to get cs pin by ond.

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I got 6 bytes and login from ecu

[totalkey]

on my suppliers site , it clearly states that non smart key programming for the listed models is free , so yes ok to charge for new functions but what was advertised to avdi owners as free for all with ams should stay as free and cant just be taken away , surely not ? after all the news item advertising this free function is still on the website . ive no issues with charges for new functionality , but i do not agree with removing what was free to all owners with a valid ams . im not even sure this would be legal ? are you 100% sure that the non smart keys are no longer free as advertised ?

ABRITES DIAGNOSTICS FOR SUBARU 28.0
FRIDAY, 12 FEBRUARY 2016 12:21:26 EUROPE/LONDON
ABRITES Diagnostics for Subaru

- Oil change reset function for servicing
- DPF exchange for the vehicles equipped with the EE series Boxer Diesel engines
- DPF regeneration for the vehicles equipped with the EE series Boxer Diesel engines
- Key registration for Cars using CAN protocol: Subaru Forester, Impreza, Legacy, Outback 2.0 Boxer Diesel 2008 - 2013 (Non smart key system)
- Fuel pump duty cycle learning
- EGR valve opening angle learning
- Turbo vanes angles learning
- Added new actuators for actuator testing and update

Free for all AVDI owners

Open your license vwier and you will see, also start Subaru commander and pushed regular key programming and you will see you not allowed to move on because you missed license, I wrote to you before that this new policy of abrites to combined old functions to one new function will make us lose everything you paid till today - in Subaru they took your license and in vag and others they will not give you updates anymore. Rest y case, no more money to abrites.

[i-vtec]

CHEATERS AND THIEVES

[lupu_sandu]

I search for that state for Subaru and i didn't find. Thanks for posting.
I will send a mail to support to ask.
In meanwhile maybe AlekN can make some clarification for us?

[rapidlocksmiths]

page 8 of this page on main abrites website , scroll down to bottom of page, statement is still on abrites website , clearly states that non smart key programming on listed models 2008 to 2013 is free for all avdi owners , no confusion , no misunderstanding , in black and white , no double meanings , free to all avdi owners .
- Key registration for Cars using CAN protocol: Subaru Forester, Impreza, Legacy, Outback 2.0 Boxer Diesel 2008 - 2013 (Non smart key system)

so by all means charge for new coverage and functions , but what was given free should stay as such , it doesnt say free for trial period , free for 1 year etc , it says free for all avdi owners , clear as day. , and only free for those with a paid for ams as only they get updates , so not entirely free to all avdi owners , only those with ams .

this is the main abrites site and the statement of free to all avdi owners was made by abrites on their website as well as their distributors websites .

perhaps a mistake by abrites to remove this from its customers , so maybe restore it on next update , maybe ?

http://abrites.com/news/about-our-products?start=70

[isma123]

was also surprizzed i dont have sb001 activated on my interface ,
i was looking for that state

[i-vtec]

we never get this back for free...

[isma123]

i'will check with support
h

[ninja123]

subaru is not even on my license viewer at all!

[whiskeyman]

More happy abrities owners

keep on digging your own grave abrities

[rapidlocksmiths]

well their own announcement on their website and their distributors sites was crystal clear , the stated key programming was free to all owners of avdi with ams , to take this away and now charge is very unethical , i would say borders on breaking some consumer laws or rules in some countries too . It certainly antagonises their once loyal customers and doesnt fill customers with confidence .

but im sure AlekN can answer on if this is a mistake and if this function will be given back to those that got it free as per their announcement on their own website a year ago. Im sure everyone is happy to pay for any new coverage and functionality , but not many will be happy paying for coverage they owned last month , after all AlekN did state that nothing would be lost thats already owned after new updates ?

im hoping its just a mistake or misunderstanding by abrites and they correct this to save alienating their once loyal customers , even they can be squeezed too much and pushed too far , as reading various forums there seems to be alot of people unhappy at the way existing customers get squeezed for more to generate new income streams , their comments not mine , lets hope abrites understand that we dont have an endless stream of cash for them and that many are going elsewhere already , loyalty and relationship is 2 way .

so please AlekN , look at this and explain if avdi owners will be getting this function back and if you intend honouring the announcement on your own website a year ago ?

[whiskeyman]

welll heres my comments martin and not afraid to say it

its buggy as ~~~~
half the shit dont work
bunch of crooks in my book
used to be good now down the pan

there so await alekn to reply and defend the company he works for..................
and answer many of my questions and even prove to me on tiemviewer half the crap this is supposed to do

can start to list the fails if you like alekn

[techterr]

Yes I do have FN017, I paid for this because in your description it states 'FIAT DUCATO TILL 2016', the vehicles I have tried it on are all fiat ducatto's but with a different badge on the front, same ECU and BSi, so is there any explanation for why this is not working? AND, more importantly, why do you state that it works when it dont?

What do you mean a Fiat Ducato with a different badge??? If you are saying a dodge promaster is the same, you need to check out the electronics.... It's different...

[techterr]

OMG, today I had to purchase Subaru... $550.00 Made a key for a 2016 Impreza, all keys lost... Dealer wanted $750.00 and a tow to the dealer and three days to get it done... Took 12 minutes to reset BIU, and a minute to program the key... Soooooo, all of you whining about having to buy Subaru... Please, don't buy it... I hate having competition who lowers my prices.... You guys just keep telling folks to go to the dealer.. or climb under that dash and pull the BIU and the cluster and the ECU.... And I will laugh all the way to the bank...
Oh wait, I need to get the obligatory cheap shot at AlekN here... Alek, when are you going to get VAG done and then give it away for free????

[cqae]

I ended up doing the same thing, pulled the EIS out which is pretty easy over here, no extrusion bars & made a key on the bench. I'm told the 8000 key insertions is a bug that will be fixed



yes same problem i have also on some w203

also we read it on bench with R270.

not work to read this in car or you must 8000 times pull in and out the key

any m8 here other solution ?

i think is the HC05 or you must find a point to take the Relais

[whiskeyman]

OMG, today I had to purchase Subaru... $550.00 Made a key for a 2016 Impreza, all keys lost... Dealer wanted $750.00 and a tow to the dealer and three days to get it done... Took 12 minutes to reset BIU, and a minute to program the key... Soooooo, all of you whining about having to buy Subaru... Please, don't buy it... I hate having competition who lowers my prices.... You guys just keep telling folks to go to the dealer.. or climb under that dash and pull the BIU and the cluster and the ECU.... And I will laugh all the way to the bank...
Oh wait, I need to get the obligatory cheap shot at AlekN here... Alek, when are you going to get VAG done and then give it away for free????

cheap shots I don't do
i ain't started yet
just waiting for real answers
from whoever

dont know how long you had this tool
but will see how many more thousands you will have to spend on your updates in the future
know abrities don't give it out for free
support zero from whoever you buy it from
if am going to spend my hard earned thousands in the near future
we need to know how we stand
and how many more times does the goal posts get changed

when we first get the tool it was free updates for life
that changed
yes don't mind paid useful add ons
my now am siding more and more with other tools again


Many of the software needs fixed
lot of vag not working
ford pathetic on the proxy side
kia Hyundai new cars it locks many up on key programming
many jag don't work
ad just does it no problem
fiat good on the early but newer it touch and go
will start to list every car I have fail on from now on
just to see if we get some real fixes from this leech company

[techterr]

You are right... At the begining it was free updates for life... It still is.. as long as you have an AMS... I am just a locksmith who uses the shit out of this software... I do alot of shops who try and put new/used parts on cars and don't know you have to adapt them to the car.. I also help out guys who get Abrites here in the states.. I actually make videos and post them on youtube to try and help others who are going thru the same shit I have gone thru... Do the same thing for MBE software... Talk about no info... Just as other people have said before, there is no perfect aftermarket software... But be a realist, what other multi car software out there can do as much as Abrites??? I have Autel, I have Launch, I have a bunch of chinese diag tools.. But when the work gets heavy, like changing out a cluster on a volvo, or programming keys to BMW, or a mercedes, or a Subaru, or virginizing an EIS or pulling data from any module on a vag vehicle, I pull out the AVDI and get the job done.... And If I need a factory pass thru, guess what, I use the AVDI... and then pay for a few day subscription to whichever OEM I need... As for a leech of a company, tell me one company that has come out with the programs or updates that Abrites has come out with in the last year??? Did zedfull come out with the ability to program keys to FCA cars without having to log in to the witech server? did AD? Just the savings on FCA paid for the software and the AMS a few times over... And now the Subaru BIU reset??? and Volvo??? have you used volvo VIDAS??? I thought MBE had no instructions, try using VIDAS the first time... and expensive... So a few people are complaining... Do you thing Abrites has 10 customers? or 100??? They have thousands, and most of the software works fine... And if you ever meet the guys and gals behind the software, you will see passion... passion for making something that is good, great.... So my question to people who are having troubles is this, have you documented the trouble you are having? have you saved snippets? have you made a video using something like screencastomatic and sent the info and the logs to Abrites and stated what the problem was???? Try being positive and see what happens...
These are just my thought... Your mileage may vary.. This and $5.00 will get you a coffee at starbucks....

[Fallen]

You are right... At the begining it was free updates for life... It still is.. as long as you have an AMS... I am just a locksmith who uses the shit out of this software... I do alot of shops who try and put new/used parts on cars and don't know you have to adapt them to the car.. I also help out guys who get Abrites here in the states.. I actually make videos and post them on youtube to try and help others who are going thru the same shit I have gone thru... Do the same thing for MBE software... Talk about no info... Just as other people have said before, there is no perfect aftermarket software... But be a realist, what other multi car software out there can do as much as Abrites??? I have Autel, I have Launch, I have a bunch of chinese diag tools.. But when the work gets heavy, like changing out a cluster on a volvo, or programming keys to BMW, or a mercedes, or a Subaru, or virginizing an EIS or pulling data from any module on a vag vehicle, I pull out the AVDI and get the job done.... And If I need a factory pass thru, guess what, I use the AVDI... and then pay for a few day subscription to whichever OEM I need... As for a leech of a company, tell me one company that has come out with the programs or updates that Abrites has come out with in the last year??? Did zedfull come out with the ability to program keys to FCA cars without having to log in to the witech server? did AD? Just the savings on FCA paid for the software and the AMS a few times over... And now the Subaru BIU reset??? and Volvo??? have you used volvo VIDAS??? I thought MBE had no instructions, try using VIDAS the first time... and expensive... So a few people are complaining... Do you thing Abrites has 10 customers? or 100??? They have thousands, and most of the software works fine... And if you ever meet the guys and gals behind the software, you will see passion... passion for making something that is good, great.... So my question to people who are having troubles is this, have you documented the trouble you are having? have you saved snippets? have you made a video using something like screencastomatic and sent the info and the logs to Abrites and stated what the problem was???? Try being positive and see what happens...
These are just my thought... Your mileage may vary.. This and $5.00 will get you a coffee at starbucks....

I tried to read that but it was a massive block of text and it hurt my eyes!

I love the way the new VAG special functions works.

If you have all of the key learning modules BUT ONE, you don't have the full package for VAG key learning (VN003) and you will not receive any more updates
for any of the existing modules you have bought because you don't have every module that makes up VN003.
"Free for all owners of the VN003 special function"

I wonder how that will work in the future, if a new module for Golf 7 keys comes out, will it be "Free for all owners of the VN003 special function"?
Will it F**k.
What you will get is having to buy that module before you can get any more updates on modules you have already paid for as your VN003 will now not be complete.

Anybody disagree with any of the above?

[gttuning]

OMG, today I had to purchase Subaru... $550.00 Made a key for a 2016 Impreza, all keys lost... Dealer wanted $750.00 and a tow to the dealer and three days to get it done... Took 12 minutes to reset BIU, and a minute to program the key... Soooooo, all of you whining about having to buy Subaru... Please, don't buy it... I hate having competition who lowers my prices.... You guys just keep telling folks to go to the dealer.. or climb under that dash and pull the BIU and the cluster and the ECU.... And I will laugh all the way to the bank...
Oh wait, I need to get the obligatory cheap shot at AlekN here... Alek, when are you going to get VAG done and then give it away for free????
How long have you AVDI?
And how many comanders have you active?
All these people here givin out is because we have near all functions.
Try to use abprog on bmw eep to be erased.good luck i have try and 4 out of 5 will not work..
Go to make dealer key for passat and find 7th by obd.i try last two cars its giving wrong 7th byte have to use extract from working key.
Last week done mileage on 13transit its displaying wrong mileage on the screen.
And many more little things.
I dont even mention diagnostic end of it.
But i still think its ok.just they have to start doing more bug fixing.


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[i-vtec]

Many question and problems to AlekN - 0 concrete answers and help!

You ask me how you robbed me at christmas promo - i tell you and now you are silent!

Many question, send log many, many waste time and NOTHING

You said NOTHING WILL BE LOSE - YOU LIE AS ALWAYS

Give me back the Subaru key prog - this is what you doing says THIEVES!

IF YOU DO NOT HAVE AVDI AND YOU THINKING TO BUY IT - DON'T BUY - YOU WILL BE DISAPOINTED AND EVERY TIME ROBBED AND YOU NEVER GET SUPPORT

[robert81]

any info about mitsubishi soft?
dont work for me at all...
can not connect to any mitsubishi after they made new soft
old soft was ok

[rapidlocksmiths]

i would never call an individual or company a cheat , nor would i slag off their work , thats not who i am or how i operate .

what i am concerned about just as others with large investments in avdi is ;

1) free functions recieved like suburu as part of ownership and having ams being taken away 11 months later , fine to charge for the updated version to take in new coverage but owners should keep what they owned last month .

2) we asked questions on VN003 release and how this affects current owners regarding updates and purchase of future licences , fair questions considering past situations .

3) bug fixes do seem to be slow , still plenty of bugs to fix .

4) issues with previous working software no longer working after update

5) moving goal posts , whats free today isnt tomorow , what you own today you dont tomorow , etc

most of us have and use all or most functions daily , we have all spent a great deal of money to get this , and use it every day , its a good tool and a must have for most , but this doesnt make income generating licence jiggles ok , we all have costs and all have to make money , and all have invested in avdi to achieve this , now 2 way loyalty , honesty , fixed goal posts is not too much to ask for . most of the complaints with avdi seem to center around , bug fixing , jiggling licences , unclear descriptions on charges and new directions , you dont see many slating what the tool does well of course .

no one begrudges them making money and charging for new coverage , this is expected and fair , but existing customers do expect clarity and im sure would all love to be happy customers sharing the same passion as abrites , you are right abrites do have thousands of customers , so to jiggle a licence that forces them to pay another ?300 each generates a great deal of money , do this a few times a year and it is a great income generator . im not saying this is the case or the reason for licence jiggles , but without clarification for reasons then people are left to their own thoughts.

abrites know that many are not happy , sometimes they respond and sometimes not , this is there choice and decision to make , for my part i just dont like ever moving goal posts without explanation . i like the tool and have never slated it , its manufacturer or anyone working for them , i ask questions i would like an answer too if i dont understand something or if i disagree with something , but always in a polite manner , doesnt often get me answers , but i dont and wont change a polite approach. what i will change if i dont like something is how i invest in the future .

[gttuning]

i would never call an individual or company a cheat , nor would i slag off their work , thats not who i am or how i operate .

what i am concerned about just as others with large investments in avdi is ;

1) free functions recieved like suburu as part of ownership and having ams being taken away 11 months later , fine to charge for the updated version to take in new coverage but owners should keep what they owned last month .

2) we asked questions on VN003 release and how this affects current owners regarding updates and purchase of future licences , fair questions considering past situations .

3) bug fixes do seem to be slow , still plenty of bugs to fix .

4) issues with previous working software no longer working after update

most of us have and use all or most functions daily , we have all spent a great deal of money to get this , and use it every day , its a good tool and a must have for most , but this doesnt make income generating licence jiggles ok , we all have costs and all have to make money , and all have invested in avdi to achieve this , now 2 way loyalty , honesty , fixed goal posts is not too much to ask for . most of the complaints with avdi seem to center around , bug fixing , jiggling licences , unclear descriptions on charges and new directions , you dont see many slating what the tool does well of course .

abrites know that many are not happy , sometimes they respond and sometimes not , this is there choice and decision to make , for my part i just dont like ever moving goal posts without explanation . i like the tool and have never slated it , its manufacturer or anyone working for them , i ask questions i would like an answer too if i dont understand something or if i disagree with something , but always in a polite manner , doesnt often get me answers , but i dont and wont change a polite approach. what i will change if i dont like something is how i invest in the future .
Well said.but looks like it dose not matter to abrites.i would think that this thread would be very handy for abrites how people look at them and what they think of them and what avdi owners have trouble with.
I use my avdi every day and its good tool.just there is few problems with it like any other tool will have.
What i would like to be change is start fixing bugs and if i send logs to support make it fix that day or day latter and update the software. and dont be taking functions away that we had last September.
I dont mind paying for new special functions..we charge customers for r work so dont expect getting new things for free from abrites.
Like AlekN said he dose not menage Abrites company so there is no point giving him hard time couse it will change nothing.

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[whiskeyman]

for me this feels like same way zedbull went
customers dont matter
cash is king

hence why i have not bought the zedfull out of principle
and never will
one good example of a good company and just a 1 man band
tmpro
bogi answers straight away and goes that extra mile to help?

so how can a 1 man band manage this and a so called large company like abrities not????

like us were only as good as are last job
people remember the bad and never the good

[rapidlocksmiths]

thats the same reason i have not invested in zedfull , what IEA and their distributors did and how they treated their loyal zedbull customers was diabolical and unethical , because of this and the likleyhood they will do the same again i wont invest in zedfull end of.

cryptoworks did the same thing , vanished for years leaving their customers with dead units that couldnt be updated online to work , so wasted investment .

this is a worry with many diag makers , even abrites , we have to synch our avdi every 30 days to keep it working , it has a battery that if it dies so do the unit , all good at present as simple to synch online and if you have extended warranty then battery replaced if it dies , no problem . but if for what ever reason abrites close , within 30 days none of us have a working investment any longer , which is a worry . im not saying they will do this like crypto works and iea did , but its a possibility .

i dont want a witch hunt , i would appreciate some honest answers and some clarity to the questions asked about suburu , mitsi not working etc , fixed goalposts and clarity so we all know where we stand as the current situation seems to be worsening rather than improving .

[totalkey]

thats the same reason i have not invested in zedfull , what IEA and their distributors did and how they treated their loyal zedbull customers was diabolical and unethical , because of this and the likleyhood they will do the same again i wont invest in zedfull end of.

cryptoworks did the same thing , vanished for years leaving their customers with dead units that couldnt be updated online to work , so wasted investment .

this is a worry with many diag makers , even abrites , we have to synch our avdi every 30 days to keep it working , it has a battery that if it dies so do the unit , all good at present as simple to synch online and if you have extended warranty then battery replaced if it dies , no problem . but if for what ever reason abrites close , within 30 days none of us have a working investment any longer , which is a worry . im not saying they will do this like crypto works and iea did , but its a possibility .

i dont want a witch hunt , i would appreciate some honest answers and some clarity to the questions asked about suburu , mitsi not working etc , fixed goalposts and clarity so we all know where we stand as the current situation seems to be worsening rather than improving .


Honestly is the last thing you should wait from abrites.
Come on man. They doing what ever and whenever that suit to there pocket.
I still in shock after yesterday alek answer me" you want support? Go pay kapdiagnostics.
They not Care a bit. And as you said if they close or change the rules our tool can stop working anymore.
After the latest dishonest and greedily behavior I will presume that the loyalty and ethic side of abrites is on the way down and it's look like a shot in the leg.
Again alek will pop here and will tell us he answer all the emails we send and we should stop to be worried but after last email I sent and got zero support I can tell he not telling the true, this happen few times in the past for me but I was ignore it, but no more.

[gttuning]

Honestly is the last thing you should wait from abrites.
Come on man. They doing what ever and whenever that suit to there pocket.
I still in shock after yesterday alek answer me" you want support? Go pay kapdiagnostics.
They not Care a bit. And as you said if they close or change the rules our tool can stop working anymore.
After the latest dishonest and greedily behavior I will presume that the loyalty and ethic side of abrites is on the way down and it's look like a shot in the leg.
Again alek will pop here and will tell us he answer all the emails we send and we should stop to be worried but after last email I sent and got zero support I can tell he not telling the true, this happen few times in the past for me but I was ignore it, but no more.
Did you buy from kap?

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[autodigitec]

I'm trying to adapt a completely virgin RB8 cluster (audi a4 8e 2006) that came from dealer in status 1 and VIN reads as "XXXXXXX".

I can read the one from car perfectly.

On K-line special function I did:
-Read eeprom from original and save backup. Read "keys" and save.
-Read eeprom from new and save backup. Read "keys" and save.
-Write "keys" from original on new.
-Changed manually status from 1 to 6.

At this point I thought it would already start car with new cluster, but I still have immo error on ECU.
VIN was still "XXXXXXX" in the new cluster, I changed directly on eeprom and wrote, it accepted without errors but not sure if this is how I should do it.

Can someone guide me what I have to do next, or upload the most recent VAG manual. (I was using my friends avdi and don't have it here)

A manual from 2015 says I have to: "Please note that in order to start the engine you need to adjust the component protection data in the ECU too." How exactly do I do this?

I have not touched the "?Reset Comp. Security?" button yet. (as I'm writing this post it seems it is this function I have to use :D ).

[rm23]

use it, you will get option to change CS...




I'm trying to adapt a completely virgin RB8 cluster (audi a4 8e 2006) that came from dealer in status 1 and VIN reads as "XXXXXXX".

I can read the one from car perfectly.

On K-line special function I did:
-Read eeprom from original and save backup. Read "keys" and save.
-Read eeprom from new and save backup. Read "keys" and save.
-Write "keys" from original on new.
-Changed manually status from 1 to 6.

At this point I thought it would already start car with new cluster, but I still have immo error on ECU.
VIN was still "XXXXXXX" in the new cluster, I changed directly on eeprom and wrote, it accepted without errors but not sure if this is how I should do it.

Can someone guide me what I have to do next, or upload the most recent VAG manual. (I was using my friends avdi and don't have it here)

A manual from 2015 says I have to: "Please note that in order to start the engine you need to adjust the component protection data in the ECU too." How exactly do I do this?

I have not touched the "“Reset Comp. Security”" button yet. (as I'm writing this post it seems it is this function I have to use :D ).

[totalkey]

Did you buy from kap?

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No i did buy direct from abrites, 10k full package, update later more 2k for toyota and ford, and paying ams every year .after this they start to come up with new function every month and now my tool not getting any major update for somthing like 2 years. I learn my lesson after this and I not buying any more updates for now. Also my ams doesn't look important for now.
Support should be free for somebody that pay ams I think.
At least free forum under company website like a any normal business.
I don't see this attitude in less expensive tools. If they think they are too unique to give proper support they are wrong. If I was starting my business today I will definitely will not choose abrites.
2k gscan + 2k vvdi +1k tango+ vvdi mb and maybe MVP for the gap.
What will happen with abrites in the future is not clear in my point of view, and now chip China tools can copy almost all transponders in the market. So basically it's just good for all keys lost on some very new cars. Or for vary busy locksmiths.
4-6 years ago it's was must.
I'm sorry they choose to charge extra for support by kapdiag .

[yugo45]

Very nice trick for new customers , but this is nowhere to be true and it does not says anything about paying for support at all:
http://shop.abrites.com/index.php?route=information/information&information_id=7


(http://shop.abrites.com/index.php?route=information/information&information_id=7)
Support


As a company with very rich experience in the development of equipment for diagnostics and programming of car and truck ECUs, we understand the great significance of quality customer support. That is why we will start to support you from the moment you visit our site for the first time, helping you to make the right choice for you. We will ensure that you feel comfortable and inform you of the status of your order. If you have any questions, you can always rely on our twenty-four-seven technical support. We will take care of you and your business, always keeping you updated with the latest versions of our products. In developing a knowledge-based business, we will constantly present to you innovative solutions matching your needs, so that your business can grow successfully. With each product we deploy, we take on a long-term responsibility towards you and your business to always provide you with fresh updates based upon our experience and know-how. We develop modular products in order to best satisfy your needs.

[JFR-Tuning]

908 you mean, and classic psw read over IR

Cause there is no 203 eis with hc05

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wrong

old EZS in First w203 have same as Vito without antenn pin bag site , so olso 2 x HC05
newer have HCS12

newer w203 15 minutes

but you must disconect dash if you will use a used EZS with more Kilometer. So in this case You Must also read and Write with Rossfar

In some cases you can change odometer value in EZS IF YOU MAKE SERVEL TIMES IT NEW STATE AND THAN PERSONALITY

[gttuning]

wrong

old EZS in First w203 have same as Vito without antenn pin bag site , so olso 2 x HC05
newer have HCS12

newer w203 15 minutes

but you must disconect dash if you will use a used EZS with more Kilometer. So in this case You Must also read and Write with Rossfar

In some cases you can change odometer value in EZS IF YOU MAKE SERVEL TIMES IT NEW STATE AND THAN PERSONALITY
I was thinking that it was HC05 couse i had to use adapter for smok to read it.but just wosent sure as i do different stuff every day.

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[gttuning]

No i did buy direct from abrites, 10k full package, update later more 2k for toyota and ford, and paying ams every year .after this they start to come up with new function every month and now my tool not getting any major update for somthing like 2 years. I learn my lesson after this and I not buying any more updates for now. Also my ams doesn't look important for now.
Support should be free for somebody that pay ams I think.
At least free forum under company website like a any normal business.
I don't see this attitude in less expensive tools. If they think they are too unique to give proper support they are wrong. If I was starting my business today I will definitely will not choose abrites.
2k gscan + 2k vvdi +1k tango+ vvdi mb and maybe MVP for the gap.
What will happen with abrites in the future is not clear in my point of view, and now chip China tools can copy almost all transponders in the market. So basically it's just good for all keys lost on some very new cars. Or for vary busy locksmiths.
4-6 years ago it's was must.
I'm sorry they choose to charge extra for support by kapdiag .
So why he said go pay kap for support?

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[JFR-Tuning]

For all

i write in my case with IVO from Abrites Support Team. I think it is correct gay in the team. I Write in My case with the directory and i can say It be no acceptably for my.

you will contact hin, i think i will do a lot for us.

i think the metter is in the past. They make a other Politik as now. But no one off us will lost somethink wich have payed. Other reason, Abrites must earn for new features.

but same I write, all of us must make also money not spent it. So every one must look if a special function bring money or only take away money

[JFR-Tuning]

For all

i write in my case with IVO from Abrites Support Team. I think it is correct gay in the team. I Write in My case with the directory and i can say It be no acceptably for my.

you will contact hin, i think i will do a lot for us.

i think the metter is in the past. They make a other Politik as now. But no one off us will lost somethink wich have payed. Other reason, Abrites must earn for new features.

but same I write, all of us must make also money not spent it. So every one must look if a special function bring money or only take away money

[totalkey]

Very nice trick for new customers , but this is nowhere to be true and it does not says anything about paying for support at all:
http://shop.abrites.com/index.php?route=information/information&information_id=7


(http://shop.abrites.com/index.php?route=information/information&information_id=7)
Support


As a company with very rich experience in the development of equipment for diagnostics and programming of car and truck ECUs, we understand the great significance of quality customer support. That is why we will start to support you from the moment you visit our site for the first time, helping you to make the right choice for you. We will ensure that you feel comfortable and inform you of the status of your order. If you have any questions, you can always rely on our twenty-four-seven technical support. We will take care of you and your business, always keeping you updated with the latest versions of our products. In developing a knowledge-based business, we will constantly present to you innovative solutions matching your needs, so that your business can grow successfully. With each product we deploy, we take on a long-term responsibility towards you and your business to always provide you with fresh updates based upon our experience and know-how. We develop modular products in order to best satisfy your needs.


Great that you found one more cheat by abrites!

[rapidlocksmiths]

there are different levels of AMS , in fairness this is clearly stated on kaps website , its not as clear on the main abrites website , but it is very clear on kaps website .

1) AMS - this is just updates and online services and the facility to buy new functions , it clearly states no support included ?189 a year

2) Basic Plan - this is AMS plan with basic support by email and access to knowledge base and forum ?299 a year

3) Priority Plan- this includes everything in the basic and AMS plan plus quicker priority online support , remote pc access , premium videos and extended warranty ?399 a year

4) secure plan - everything in the above 3 plus insurance against loss or theft of avdi so you get a new avdi with all your owned licences ?599 per year

sadly you cant take them to task on support help as on kaps forum at least it is very clear and upfront with regards costs and support as it should be , abrites own site is less clear , but kaps is as clear as it can be so i cant see issue there.

it was once free , then it was not , this is no different to others , AD , Zedfull support must be paid for annually via hickleys in uk , no pay no support , most are going this way .

i suspect you have the AMS only without support included , and their answer was to prompt you to upgrade this to a support plan .

i agree with some of the recent decisions being wrong , the issues regarding non working functions since update , the taking away of suburu which was once owned are wrong and the questioning for answers is justified , sadly till now with no response from AlekN which is dissapointing , especially as their own website and kaps still have the statement where we was all given suburu key programming and diagnostics free , thus is a justified argument , but the ams plans coverage and support levels are clearly stated on kaps site so an argument isnt as easily justified, whether we agree with the ams levels or not , they do make these clear upfront.

im not defending abrites or kap , im as updet about recent changes as everyone , but we cant brand them cheats for something thats clearly stated upfront , most of the anger is out of frustration at no replies and moving goal posts and im sure with answers there would be less frustration , but also when some of the insults have obviously offended AlekN personally , i can sort of understand his reluctance to discuss this with us on forum , no one likes to be insulted .

[nazz2]

Sorry Martin, with all respect, but "if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it is probably a duck".
if they keep changing the goal posts, then deduct software and charge us for it, and to have it back charge us for it! , we can safely call them cheats, like zbull team, etc, like many others, if they provide a good WORKING software, we all WILL buy, and PAY.

With regards to Alek, he is only here because his bosses told him to be here, they were ONCE a famous company, now they are "infamous", thanks to this Google able post!.

With regards to the bugs, I guarantee, nothing will gets fixed! do you know why? because most of their works originally comes from a third party, if they fix it, Abrites will fix it. but when he comes and tells us that his close friend is fiat specialist, that is insult to our intelligence, because we know where it comes from!.

Anyway rants over, hope martin you didn't get offended mate, me like you I hope they come down from their high horses, and get their act together, because the tool is not bad, shame about the management.

nazz2

[rapidlocksmiths]

im not offended , we all have our ways of dealing with things and our opinions .

im not opposed to differing views , just i myself wont be involved in name calling as i dont believe it ever resolves an issue , and provokes a similar reaction . its obvious that the name calling approach has achieved no answers and no solution to issues , sadly it also seems a polite approach hasnt resulted in any answers or solutions . it does remind me of politics and politicians , i politely asked clear specific questions but recieved no straight answers either, which is a shame .

if im unhappy with a supplier i wont name call them , il just alter my investment , if need be il look at legal recourse if an option , i had issues with IEA , i dont name call them i just no longer invest with them or their distributor over the issue i had with them, i used to advise their kit and know of at least 50 that bought from being advised , i no longer advise their products, they wont care of course as im just 1 customer , but had 500 customers not reinvested in zedfull they may have had a rethink , name calling just vents frustration but doesnt yield results , name calling wont resolve issues , sadly it seems nor will a polite approach , so holding back on investing will have more impact i suspect , but face it not much unless done on mass which i cant see happening in an industry where no one has ever managed to come together and stick together .

im not critising those that like to call names etc , we are all frustrated and unhappy with them , this just isnt something i would ever get involved in as we all do things differently and act differently and deal with frustration and anger in different ways .

[nazz2]

I know what you are saying Martin,(that use to be my policy), but it is sometimes necessary to poke a stubborn Donkey to push along! , but not the other way round.

[yugo45]

there are different levels of AMS , in fairness this is clearly stated on kaps website , its not as clear on the main abrites website , but it is very clear on kaps website .

1) AMS - this is just updates and online services and the facility to buy new functions , it clearly states no support included ?189 a year

2) Basic Plan - this is AMS plan with basic support by email and access to knowledge base and forum ?299 a year

3) Priority Plan- this includes everything in the basic and AMS plan plus quicker priority online support , remote pc access , premium videos and extended warranty ?399 a year

4) secure plan - everything in the above 3 plus insurance against loss or theft of avdi so you get a new avdi with all your owned licences ?599 per year

.

I am just asking my self who owns Abrites , it is KAP or who?
Because Home Website do not have anything about this prices. So it will be like this , I own Company and my destitution has some Support plan. Then you ask me for support and I tell you well you need to pay to this web to get support.

What king of Bull S..... is that.

Also some members of DK was on KAP forum and they got kick out when they start talking like we here. So once you start talking true you are out of them plan.
Same thing if you mention anything about other tool they start ignore you.
What kind of business is that, Well I tell you , Old Fashion BALKAN way .

Name me single person here is DK that likes KAP.

We have over 4000 posts here and what people get from ALEKN ??????

[gttuning]

KAP i wrote email to them when 10k was on sale....they r bunch of lunatics.
Once you ask questions that they dont like they ban you right away.

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[isma123]

EVERY one talking about its own experience , some times abrites asked huge amount of money my avdi is full and i bought in 2009 i saw this company growing

i always got answer to my email even negative reponse like ... this not supported ?? supported soon ???

maybe they ignore bad written mails or their server make some user spam

i'm not seller re seller or working on abrites i'm just a user ! sometimes happy and sometimes not but try always to find issues in the simplest way

[isma123]

also want happy when they relased full at 10K when you putted more than 35k that can make you different on market

[lush29]

I had few question and need it help from KAP few times. But to be honest they always answer me and once they helped me with tv and i don't have support. only valid ams. Look thinks are getting changed in the world...they are the best and can do what they want with there product. If we don't like it we don't buy it...but we like it to much... and some of us been spoield with very good prices 10k for full and now because they worked and improved there tool are asking for more which at the end of the day from business point of view is normal. Today volvo is 500 next year maybe 2000..because they improve. But let me tell about about an different tool which use to be the best before avdi. Was perfect tool at the time for programing ecu,updates.etc.for 30k or something my ex boss bought it, 4 years later tool come down 2twice cheaper and does nothing like use to do it before is only an diagnostic with support and he paid 30k 4 yars ago now cant program an abs pump without passthru. So i think avdi is been fair so far. I use avdi14 months so far

[Gavra]

Consumer guarantees on products and servicesSince 1 January 2011, the following consumer guarantees on products and services apply.
Products must be of acceptable quality, that is:


safe, lasting, with no faults
look acceptable
do all the things someone would normally expect them to do.

Acceptable quality takes into account what would normally be expected for the type of product and cost.
Products must also:


match descriptions made by the salesperson, on packaging and labels, and in promotions or advertising
match any demonstration model or sample you asked for
be fit for the purpose the business told you it would be fit for and for any purpose that you made known to the business before purchasing
come with full title and ownership
not carry any hidden debts or extra charges
come with undisturbed possession, so no one has a right to take the goods away or prevent you from using them
meet any extra promises made about performance, condition and quality, such as life time guarantees and money back offers
have spare parts and repair facilities available for a reasonable time after purchase unless you were told otherwise.


I am wondering is anyone brave enough to try to deceive customer if consumer law is clear as this one? And after this update I might just test it .......

[MarkPRP]

wrong

old EZS in First w203 have same as Vito without antenn pin bag site , so olso 2 x HC05
newer have HCS12

newer w203 15 minutes

but you must disconect dash if you will use a used EZS with more Kilometer. So in this case You Must also read and Write with Rossfar

In some cases you can change odometer value in EZS IF YOU MAKE SERVEL TIMES IT NEW STATE AND THAN PERSONALITY

W203 never have HC05 - it's HC08 (4j74y/1j35d)
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[isma123]

Il. Today volvo is 500 next year maybe 2000..because they improve. But let me tell about about an different tool which use to be the best before avdi. Was perfect tool at the time for programing ecu,updates.etc.for 30k or something my ex boss bought it, 4 years later tool come down 2twice cheaper and does nothing like use to do it before is only an diagnostic with support and he paid 30k 4 yars ago now cant program an abs pump without passthru. So i think avdi is been fair so far. I use avdi14 months so far
yes and you should pay the missing 1500
work for them

[JFR-Tuning]

W203 never have HC05 - it's HC08 (4j74y/1j35d)
[emoji85]


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true I check it old one. But AVDI don't read it without put IR KEY and output IR KEY in slot

[gttuning]

I cant make up.my mind spend or not to spend $$$

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[Mario3]

true I check it old one. But AVDI don't read it without put IR KEY and output IR KEY in slot
Sure it does. When you put any key into it it will read what can be read over obd

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[i-vtec]

wait a minute

update and support he promises to be lifetime free!

if abrites want make money to update and support should aplly ams and support plan only to new customers - not old because old customers in day when buy may clear sayed that update and support will be forever free - that situation will be ethical

secound thing is ams is for update - update should be fixing bugs

now i must pay for abrites bugs - he makes bugs i pay for fixing - it's perpetum mobile for cash

third techical support should be for person who don't know how tu use avdi or don't know how to make some works - but avdi must do this work 100%

now looks i must chave support plan to make say some of the function not working

it is insane!

so to be clear:
1 - i buy avdi and this products have bugs but abrites saying is the best tool in the world and is perfect, to do them work:
2 - i must buy support plan to have right to say that don't working and send logs
3 - i must pay for 3 times to ams to get software with fixing bugs that i report in 2 point...

and the best for the end after send logs and emails, waste time, pay for ams, pay for support plan etc - STILL NOT WORK and for BONUS abrites taken back some functions for to sell them again!

GENIUS BUSINESS

So i recomeded one more time do not be fooled and rob by abrites!

IF YOU DO NOT HAVE AVDI AND YOU THINKING TO BUY IT - DON'T BUY - YOU WILL BE DISAPOINTED AND EVERY TIME ROBBED AND YOU NEVER GET SUPPORT

[offsystem]

I want to downgrade to 27.8 is this possible ?

[isma123]

impossible to downgrade will not sync with system

[i-vtec]

as i know - NO

[Dashfixer63]

Help PleaseI want to buy a programmer keys What do you advise me avdi or vvdi mb or nec57prog or diagspeed
pls

[autoTkey]

It will sync but you can't downgrade the firmware.

[offsystem]

It will sync but you can't downgrade the firmware.
That is bad , just hoping next bug fix will come soon

[yugo45]

One more feature was taken away, Now you have to spend 200 euros on Distribution Box to calibrate miles in EDC/MED17 , before this function was free and we could use our own tool which all of us made to be able to read EDC17/MED17.

Now they force you to buy stupid Box , which cost most 50 euros and they want 200 euros, COMMON for what 200 Euros?????
ALEK N you really should talk to your team and allow this function to be use with other tools like we made for our self's .This is same thing they did for AUDI smart keys one time , they block users to use original keys, they wanted you to buy only AVDI keys at some point, then they put it back.
Miles Calibration for EDC17, EMD17 was never require anything , just connect wire to ECu and make OBD plug .
Please we need this back.


"EDC17/MED17 mileage calibration through boot mode - requires the distribution box (ZN051). This feature will allow you to correct the mileage of an EDC/ MED 17 in order to match the mileage to the cars when replacing the ECU from one car to the other. Free for all owners of the VN004 special function".

[Fallen]

This pretty much sums it up...

[whiskeyman]

just spent 5 grand on ad stuff

abrities loss

[gttuning]

One more feature was taken away, Now you have to spend 200 euros on Distribution Box to calibrate miles in EDC/MED17 , before this function was free and we could use our own tool which all of us made to be able to read EDC17/MED17.

Now they force you to buy stupid Box , which cost most 50 euros and they want 200 euros, COMMON for what 200 Euros?????
ALEK N you really should talk to your team and allow this function to be use with other tools like we made for our self's .This is same thing they did for AUDI smart keys one time , they block users to use original keys, they wanted you to buy only AVDI keys at some point, then they put it back.
Miles Calibration for EDC17, EMD17 was never require anything , just connect wire to ECu and make OBD plug .
Please we need this back.


"EDC17/MED17 mileage calibration through boot mode - requires the distribution box (ZN051). This feature will allow you to correct the mileage of an EDC/ MED 17 in order to match the mileage to the cars when replacing the ECU from one car to the other. Free for all owners of the VN004 special function".
Why you think you need this box..its only conection at the end.just use a wiring that you made up and it should work?

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[nazz2]

YEs, i spend few grand on ad100 too ,when they had the catch up package, they are catching up fast with avdi. never had any problem with ad, but they have to move faster, we hope.

[rapidlocksmiths]

i think many have invested in ad100 pro coverage and xhorse kit after recent events , i can see the logic with vvdi 2 as by all accounts its similar coverage on vag and bmw for far less and updated free , ive heard good things on vvdi mb tool to , so the cheaper costs for similar coverage will eventually make it hard for some to get payback on avdi , but i have avdi and am lucky it has paid back over years , but had i been just investing now id have to think hard on where my money is best spent.

i like avdi an have faith in the unit , i just wish abrites were more considerate to their existing customers rather than just the new ones , and would fix their goal posts as continous new costs for little becomes tiresome especially considering what many of us have invested in their unit .

when ever i ask questions of advanced diagnostics and truecode i always get full honest answers , when ever new licences are released they never have an impact on older licences and they never take away functions that were once free , you keep what you own , abrites would do well to be more like them as far as customer service is concerned , i like what abrites do but they could look after their loyal long term customers far better than they do and develop new coverage and bug fixes rather than new ways to drag a little more out of us for little to no benefit .

i still hope they do some great promotions for existing customers , fix bugs in their kit and start looking after existing customers , and stay at the top for years to come , maybe i hope for too much.

[yugo45]

Why you think you need this box..its only conection at the end.just use a wiring that you made up and it should work?

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No it will not work that way , it will pop message requires the distribution box .

Try and you will see it.

[gttuning]

No it will not work that way , it will pop message requires the distribution box .

Try and you will see it.
So the software knows that you did not buy box from abrites?

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[norman1967]

It will have a licence patch installed to check what box your using if it syncs it will allow use.

[gttuning]

One more feature was taken away, Now you have to spend 200 euros on Distribution Box to calibrate miles in EDC/MED17 , before this function was free and we could use our own tool which all of us made to be able to read EDC17/MED17.

Now they force you to buy stupid Box , which cost most 50 euros and they want 200 euros, COMMON for what 200 Euros?????
ALEK N you really should talk to your team and allow this function to be use with other tools like we made for our self's .This is same thing they did for AUDI smart keys one time , they block users to use original keys, they wanted you to buy only AVDI keys at some point, then they put it back.
Miles Calibration for EDC17, EMD17 was never require anything , just connect wire to ECu and make OBD plug .
Please we need this back.


"EDC17/MED17 mileage calibration through boot mode - requires the distribution box (ZN051). This feature will allow you to correct the mileage of an EDC/ MED 17 in order to match the mileage to the cars when replacing the ECU from one car to the other. Free for all owners of the VN004 special function".


funny that for mileage you need box but you dont need the box for reading ecu in boot mode.
both option r in boot mode so i dont get this

[i-vtec]

funny that for mileage you need box but you dont need the box for reading ecu in boot mode.
both option r in boot mode so i dont get this

don't say it to loud because this cheaters and thieves from this shitty company will block this also!

[offsystem]

Does edc17 not take km from cluster

[Dashfixer63]

All members of
Please answer my question \
Help PleaseI want to buy a programmer keys What do you advise me avdi or vvdi mb or nec57prog or diagspeed
pls

[autoTkey]

Buy whichever suits your needs best.

[gttuning]

Buy whichever suits your needs best.
Hard to advice people . depends on your market.for example i had abrites befor i start doing keys and so far it dose my jobs.cars around me would be vag fords mercs hyundai bmw psa toyota.

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[rapidlocksmiths]

thats an impossible question to answer accurately , every programmer is the best if it fits your needs and makes you money . once you know the coverage you need , ie makes models and years then you find the correct unit for your needs , if you see mainly old models your needs are very different to someone in a more afluent area who sees mainly newest models , if you see low end models or only high end models the best kit is very different again.
will you need help and support , if so some programmers have this and some do not .

one thing i can say with confidence is you will need alot more than just 1 programmer , as all have their bugs and issues and each has some coverage the next does not , the more options you have the better .

[rapidlocksmiths]

looks like we are to get another avdi update this month as well , the good news is it answers some of the questions surrounding vag , it says for owners of VN003 but also states owners of AN050 etc still get update too as includes old licences . so maybe they have listened . its obvious they have listened on vag as made the announcement very clear that owners of AN050 and AN048 get this update to confirming old licences still get relevent updates which ansers the questions we asked on this clearly , a positive that ends that speculation at least.

under suburu , its states diag update is free for all owners with ams , be interesting to see if we get the key programming back as before .

so maybe they have listened after all , fingers crossed , either way its far more positive than it was last week and maybe peace can be restored.

now look forward to the updates , 2 updates in 4 weeks is good news especially if a sign of things to come .

TA24 Abrites Chrysler/Dodge/ Jeep 2013+ Key (http://abrites.com/news/about-our-products/1584-ta24-abrites-chrysler-dodge-jeep-2013-key)


Published: 07 February 2017


The TA24 key is a key developed by Abrites in order to assist our customers when they need a non-proximity key for Chysler/ Dodge/ Jeep vehicles such as the Jeep Cherokee without a proximity key (The TA24 needs to be inserted into the Electronic Ignition Switch in order to start the vehicle). This key will work for 2013+ cars.
http://abrites.com/images/ta14frontnew.jpg


Abrites Software Update February 2017 (http://abrites.com/news/about-our-products/1583-abrites-software-update-february-2017)


Published: 07 February 2017


Dear Customers,
We would like to inform you that we have prepared a new update for all our customers with a valid AMS.
The update will be sent to everyone with a valid AMS by Friday, February 10th.
Below you will find some of the main features of the new update.


Abrites Diagnostics for Mercedes version 9.9 (http://abrites.com/news/about-our-products/1582-abrites-diagnostics-for-mercedes-version-9-9)


Published: 07 February 2017


The Abrites diagnostics for Mercedes 9.9 includes the updates to the MN026 special function, now there is a simplified process for the
personalization of the EM001 to the W204/W207/W212 vehicles as well as the W176/W246/W117 with FBS3.
The new update includes various other improvements such as improving the speed for EZS password extraction on W204/W207/W212 and W176/W246/W117
vehicles when all keys are lost both with and without the usage of the Abrites distribution box.

Abrites diagnostics for Volkswagen/ Audi/ Skoda/ Seat/ Bentley/ Lamborghini (VAG) version 28.1 (http://abrites.com/news/about-our-products/1581-abrites-diagnostics-for-volkswagen-audi-skoda-seat-bentley-lamborghini-vag-version-28-1)


Published: 07 February 2017


The current version of the Abrites diagnostics for VAG (28.1) Includes multiple updates for the customers working on the vehicles from the VAG group.
Most of these updates include the addition of new modules to our support list. For example:
- New VDO NEC Clusters with software versions 2013+ have been added for entering service mode. This function will be free for the customers
with VN003 as well as for the customers who have the AN050, AN048 meaning that the support for the older functions will continue.
- New EDC17 ECUs added for calibration (Free for customers with VN004 as well as customers who have the AN054).
The Update will be available to the customers with the above mention special functions and a valid AMS.

Abrites diagnostics for Porsche version 6.4 (http://abrites.com/news/about-our-products/1580-abrites-diagnostics-for-porsche-version-6-4)


Published: 07 February 2017


The current version of the Abrites diagnostics for Porsche (6.4) solves a very common problem many of our customers have faced on multiple occasions.
Until now it was nearly impossible for the regular (non official dealer) workshop to replace the headlights on the Panamera/ Cayenne cars which often
needed replacement. In the new version all owners of the PO007 special function will be able to replace the headlights because the ID number inside the
headlights of these vehicles can be changed thus mating used and new headlights to the car.
The Update will be available to the customers with the above mention special functions and a valid AMS.

Abrites diagnostics for Toyota 10.4 (http://abrites.com/news/about-our-products/1579-abrites-diagnostics-for-toyota-10-4)


Published: 07 February 2017


Abrites Diagnostics for Toyota's new version now offers the update to list of supported versions for new Smart systems with proximity remote keys.
This function will be free for all users with the TN006 function.
The Update will be available to the customers with the above mention special functions and a valid AMS.

Abrites diagnostics for Fiat/ Alfa/ Lancia/ FCA version 6.9 (http://abrites.com/news/about-our-products/1578-abrites-diagnostics-for-fiat-alfa-lancia-fca-version-6-9)


Published: 07 February 2017


The Abrites diagnostics for FIAT/ Alfa/ Lancia/ FCA 6.9 helps solve a problem with the key learning of the 2013+ Jeep/ Dodge/ Chrysler 2013+
Keys with AES. These keys are also available as a new product on our online store (TA24 (http://abrites.com/news/about-our-products/1584-ta24-abrites-chrysler-dodge-jeep-2013-key)).
This function will be available for all customers with FN017 and a valid AMS.

Abrites diagnostics for Subaru version 29.2 (http://abrites.com/news/about-our-products/1577-abrites-diagnostics-for-subaru-version-29-2)


Published: 07 February 2017


Abrites diagnostics for Subaru version 29.2 builds on the previous versions by improving the diagnostics and live data
from what was previously available, adding new models to the support list, new engines and new generation of DPF regenerations
(free for all customers with a valid AMS).
- In terms of key learning - the newly added functionality is to do with the ability to learn remote controls by diagnostics.
The functionality is free for all the customers with a valid AMS and the SB001 special function. The Update will be available to the customers with the above mention special functions and a valid AMS.

Abrites TAG key tool software version 9.4 (http://abrites.com/news/about-our-products/1576-abrites-tag-key-tool-software-version-9-4)


Published: 07 February 2017


The Abrites TAG key tool software version 9.4 includes the addition of the Dodge Sprinter key learning by dump.
For this function the customers will require the KT010 and ZN002 PROTAG programmer.
The Update will be available to the customers with the above mention special functions and a valid AMS.

[whiskeyman]

at last some good news
hopefully they fix ,and make it my tool of choice again

[gttuning]

Good news about vag.that updates r for special function not for vn.

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[offsystem]

Good news for vag ALekn can you please add which SW VERSIONS ARE NOW SUPPORTED by the Premium Clusters
thank you

[habbyb]

Hello everyone,anyway any apdate is very very good for us.

[nazz2]

Has anyone done range rover evoque prox 2012 with avdi? this one is petrol, and the owner says it hasn't been to range rover since new, I programmed the remote, then the key, the problem is the remote works, but when you sit in the car you have to wait one minute, before it allows the engine to start.

However if you press the unlock botton once, she will run straight away, this was a lost key situation, has anyone else had this? or are they build like this?

ps, tried it with skp900, but it asks for 2 remotes to be programmed!!!

[habbyb]

Has anyone done range rover evoque prox 2012 with avdi? this one is petrol, and the owner says it hasn't been to range rover since new, I programmed the remote, then the key, the problem is the remote works, but when you sit in the car you have to wait one minute, before it allows the engine to start.

However if you press the unlock botton once, she will run straight away, this was a lost key situation, has anyone else had this? or are they build like this?

ps, tried it with skp900, but it asks for 2 remotes to be programmed!!!
Hello,please say if the key is OEM or made in China,try to start without battery in remote closer to the ring antenna near steering column and please says the new result.

[nazz2]

This one is new from dealer came with lable, thanks I will report back, although I might have tried that as well, cant remember,cheers.

[habbyb]

Hello,trying to start in emergency without battery in remote to make sure the error or bugs.

[nazz2]

Hi mate, all sorted now, yes it was working without the batt. too, I found out if you open close the door with remote, the car starts as it should, however if you open the door with the emergency key, you have to wait a minute or 2, before starting is allowed!

[habbyb]

Hi mate,so now is good......?

[nazz2]

Yes, it was my mistake, if you read above, open close door with remote ,car starts per normal, if you open with emergency key, there is 1,2 minutes delay, before engine starts.

[AlekN]

Hi lads,
To be honest, I opened this thread for the first time in a few weeks and I am very pleasantly surprised that we finally have different opinions than what we had before.
I tried to explain that al the VN updates will include people with AN, also there are some very good offers to complete the ANs to VN now. You can subtract the prices for the ANs from the VN total price as a nod to our customers. I urge anyone with a problem to write here. Me and the rest of the guys from support will answer ASAP.

[i-vtec]

Hi lads,
To be honest, I opened this thread for the first time in a few weeks and I am very pleasantly surprised that we finally have different opinions than what we had before.
I tried to explain that al the VN updates will include people with AN, also there are some very good offers to complete the ANs to VN now. You can subtract the prices for the ANs from the VN total price as a nod to our customers. I urge anyone with a problem to write here. Me and the rest of the guys from support will answer ASAP.

what different opinions?

as always you don't answer to question!

so read carfuly all post from you last visit and ANSWER FOR THEM! , AN update is not us only one problem

when you get us back free subaru key learning?

you ask me how you cheat me at christmas promo - i answer - and you don't wrote anything!

[gttuning]

what different opinions?

as always you don't answer to question!

so read carfuly all post from you last visit and ANSWER FOR THEM! , AN update is not us only one problem

when you get us back free subaru key learning?

you ask me how you cheat me at christmas promo - i answer - and you don't wrote anything!
Man i dont think we all want to read this for the 25th time how you got f....over xmas promo.
Just write this to Alek by pm r something.
Dont take this as a disrespect against you.
Have a nice day.

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[khalcdi]

hi Alek,
about VAG update we can say that GOLF 7 is now supported for key learning . wich versions are supported please....

[nazz2]

Thanks Alek , step in the right direction, all of us like the tool, and we try to make a living, all the anger by most ,including me is understandable, so lets hope we all come to some sort of understanding, and focus our energy and thoughts, ideas on the tool. insults only done by PM only, lol, kidding.

[gttuning]

hi Alek,
about VAG update we can say that GOLF 7 is know supported for key learning . wich version are supported please....
Had a golf 7 here yesterday 2013 his coming back after new update..will try and see😊😊

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[micromax]

AlekN , what price for update my commander for full VN ??

[Locksmith Hungary]

This is the best LicenseViewer :D :D

[nazz2]

Could you report back pls Gt how you got on?

[gttuning]

Could you report back pls Gt how you got on?
Will do.

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[rapidlocksmiths]

In fairness most of the questions i asked were answered in the new update announcement , making it very clear that AN licences still recieve the updates , very positive and well done to abrites team for making this clearer in the announcent , saves the misconceptions followed by speculation and anger that confusion creates .

the only question that has not been answered in announcement or on here is of course the upset surrounding suburu licence , as per last years announcement on the abrites website key programming on listed models was free to all owners of avdi with an ams , yet this has been taken away at present , is this a mistake and this will be restored on next update or has this been taken away now ? a clear answer on this will im sure kill off speculation and i hope restore peace and return the thread to technical issues , so please can we put this issue to bed one way or other .

on the vag announcement , many are speculating that golf mk7 coverage is added , is this the case ?

good to see you back AlekN

[offsystem]

Golf 7 are you joking Lol

Tested today new update on Tiguan 2014 and Golf 6 cabrio the same as always " unknown cluster"

[rapidlocksmiths]

have you had feb update already then to have tested this ?

[topclef]

tested new VAG Version 28.1 on Caddy 2014 ( unknown cluster )

[rapidlocksmiths]

i did think that if golf 7 was released there would have been more made of it as big announcement , im sure if golf mk7 was released then it would be hailed from the roof tops , also i doubt very much it would be a free update from anyone .

all updates are welcome , as are all promotions and deals that help us compete in our market against users of other kit.

[gttuning]

In fairness most of the questions i asked were answered in the new update announcement , making it very clear that AN licences still recieve the updates , very positive and well done to abrites team for making this clearer in the announcent , saves the misconceptions followed by speculation and anger that confusion creates .

the only question that has not been answered in announcement or on here is of course the upset surrounding suburu licence , as per last years announcement on the abrites website key programming on listed models was free to all owners of avdi with an ams , yet this has been taken away at present , is this a mistake and this will be restored on next update or has this been taken away now ? a clear answer on this will im sure kill off speculation and i hope restore peace and return the thread to technical issues , so please can we put this issue to bed one way or other .

on the vag announcement , many are speculating that golf mk7 coverage is added , is this the case ?

good to see you back AlekN
SB001 is key learning for subaru..it was free but now is in the sb001 license.
Thats answer form abrites ltd.to me any way.
In didn't ask if in future will be returned but from the conversation i understood that wont be free.


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[rapidlocksmiths]

if the case that is dissapointing , after all it was a function that was given free to all with an ams , ams isnt free and is paid for so was seen as a perk of keeping ams up to date . it was announced on their website as free to all with a valid ams . this if the case would fall foul of some consumer laws in some countries im sure as if something is free then it is free , upgrades can be charged for of course but to take away a previously free function advertised as free with ams is not good conduct .
in many ways its better not to advertise something as free if you plan to take it back at a later date , its very unethical if the case , and i stress " IF THE CASE " as no answer from alekn as yet .

i know if i do a promotion and give a free std key with every remote key , i cant take it back once given free and i still have an obligation to guarantee it even if i offer it free .

i will await an answer on this from alekn , as the abrites website and the distributor websites were very clear a year ago when this was announced as free for all abrites owners with valid ams , alekn can give a definitive answer im sure .

[i-vtec]

I do not know what you excites, we paid for AN function - and now he give us update - that is normal - this is not reason to rejoice!

Do you have such a short memory what we wrote on this topic? and now alekn shows and everyone is happy - why? he don't answers to any of problem question.

If abrites don't give us back subaru key learning it will be fraud!

Next if abrites relese Suzuki key learning they ALSO TAKE this 2 or 3 models that we have now to make keys for suzuki....

[rapidlocksmiths]

the speculation that caused anger on the thread initially was it was unclear in the jan update announcement whether the an licences would still get updates , as announcement said free to owners of VN003 , it was assumed that all VN003 licences would be needed to continue getting updates . this is not the case as has now been confirmed that AN licences still get the updates , so it killed the speculation on this and made it clear , thus those concerned about this were happy.

suburu is another issue , and yes if this has just been taken away its wrong , and sets an unwanted precedent and questions with the other free functions like suzuki and landrover that were free with ams , will these be taken away next ? but whats the point in getting angry and calling them names until we get a difinitive answer from alekn of whether this is the case or if just an error that will be rectified on next update .

if it is the case then yes we have good reason to be angry , and i would never buy it out of principle , but if a mistake and we get it back and only have to pay for the updated version of it then theres no issue , but until we get a factual answer from alekn , no one knows for sure.

if it turns out you lose it , then name calling wont resolve it , only litigation can resolve it , but litigation is expensive , however enough people getting together and starting litigation as a large group can work out affordable , id certainly be tempted to raise the matter with trading standards and the advertising authorities in uk , as breaks both their rules as advertised clearly as free on their website and their distributors websites , i have kept screen shots in case removed , another advantage of group litigation is if you win your case it sets a legal precedent which prevents such unethical actions being done again in the future.

but its all speculation until alekn answers factually which i hope he will as it may just be a mistake that will be rectified .

[nazz2]

You took the word right out of my mouth Martin, I had this idea of forming a group to take them to court+legal action but never had the screen shots, well done fellow, something to concider! if...... for the same reason above I mentioned that in here once they would be in big trouble in Dubai,if I see them at the show (I have few contacts in high places), but now we have the screen shots. only if they start back stabbing us, we know what to do.

[rapidlocksmiths]

ive kept screen shots of both abrites and kap site , both are still their on both sites and still clearly state its free , page 9 on abrites site under news about our products and under news and suburu on kaps site , so we can all get screen shots simply.

i have also kept screenshots of the land rover and suzuki being free for all users with ams .

i have absolutely no objection to paying for new functions , but not for what i already owned , this was advertised as free to all avdi owners , as to get this you had to have a valid ams , then it was a perk of ams and as advertised free was free and now owned by those with ams , so should never have been taken away again.

litigation and complaining to authorities like trading standards or advertising authority should always be a last resort if all communication attempts fail , im sure alekn can clarify whether we will get this back and its all a mistake that is easily rectified , or not , but we should give him the opportunity without abuse to look into it and answer factually , it may still be a lot of fuss over nothing .

even if the answer given turns out not to be the one we hoped for , abusing alekn achieves nothing and its not him your angry with , you then decide if dropping it or if to pursue it legally as at end of day these are the only 2 options you will have , other than investing elsewhere in the future of course which is a 3rd option.

[gttuning]

I asked sale team where is my key learning for subaru that i got in update.
Answer was ...we dont see in r system that you bought SB001.
So i dont think so its coming back.but you never know.

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[paul_12345]

I do not know what you excites, we paid for AN function - and now he give us update - that is normal - this is not reason to rejoice!

Do you have such a short memory what we wrote on this topic? and now alekn shows and everyone is happy - why? he don't answers to any of problem question.

If abrites don't give us back subaru key learning it will be fraud!

Next if abrites relese Suzuki key learning they ALSO TAKE this 2 or 3 models that we have now to make keys for suzuki....

They could easily remove this legally for instance they allow everyone to keep the programming untill the end of their AMS then next AMS they make it clear no free subaru programming.

Because AMS is a service and they can easily say free subaru was also a free service with AMS.. far too ambiguous.

[rapidlocksmiths]

except the advertised statement doesnt say that its a free service with ams , you had to have ams to get the updates yes , but the advert clearly states free for all avdi owners makes no exceptions !

im hoping alekn can throw some light on things and it turns out to be alot of fuss over nothing

Published: 08 February 2016


ABRITES Diagnostics for Subaru (http://abrites.com/news/about-our-products/1266-abrites-diagnostics-for-subaru)
- Oil change reset function for servicing
- DPF exchange for the vehicles equipped with the EE series Boxer Diesel engines
- DPF regeneration for the vehicles equipped with the EE series Boxer Diesel engines
- Key registration for Cars using CAN protocol: Subaru Forester, Impreza, Legacy, Outback 2.0 Boxer Diesel 2008 - 2013 (Non smart key system)
- Fuel pump duty cycle learning
- EGR valve opening angle learning
- Turbo vanes angles learning
- Added new actuators for actuator testing and update
Free for all AVDI owners

[isma123]

my ams never been interupted
but it says no licence for normal or proximity keys

you have to buy sb001 to program any subaru key

[lupu_sandu]

Or you can buy x100 obdstar for Subaru

[PremierD]

Or you can buy x100 obdstar for Subaru


:top:................. lol lol lol


And have a good vacation with the money saved

[rapidlocksmiths]

another good buy im seriously considering is new gscan tab at ?899 https://mg.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?retry_ssl=1#7114717239

for me this will be a great addition for asian models , exploring alternate options seems wise in the current climate .

[Fallen]

I wouldn't worry too much about AVDI and Subaru, I have the latest update and have tried it on two cars and this was the end result.

On all the late model Subaru I have tried it on, it has disabled all of the cars and I needed another tool to bring the car back to life.
This is on all keys lost and spare keys 2012+ G key and keyless go.

It's like the Toyota update where they say they can do all keys lost on key-less go using their special adapter, that too is rubbish.
I have the update and the adapter and it's always a failure and I personally know another locksmith who killed an IS250 using it, it was not able to be done by eeprom, data was corrupted by AVDI.

When Abritus release a new function, they always say "Can do all keys lost to ALL models using keyless go" then the next 3 updates are all bug fixes and adding more models to the module.
Hang on, if it works with ALL MODELS then why are they adding more models to it?

YES I have all the Toyota updates, YES I have all the Subaru updates, am I game to use them on a car?
Nope, I have no faith in the updates because they use us for testing.
Maybe in a years time when it's a bit more stable it might be worth a look but for now I would watch and see.

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[gttuning]

Maybe thats one subaru not free any more...we need money to make it work.lets do new license

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[i-vtec]

The main problem of this company is that they don't understand what words mean, for example:

FREE updates for them not means all the time and without paing but means buy AMS!

FREE to all users with active AMS not means we give you extra function for free bacause you are loyal client and pay ams though we promise that somting like ams never com out but means today we give you and tomorrow we take you and give us money

ALL not means every models/software version/years/etc but means models they see or working with (like they do BMW 2 they test it on BMW bike not on car and next 80% not working and killing modeules after flash)

Mayby we do fundraiser and buy them Bulgarian-English Dictionary?

FREE means FREE no matter what! If you don't understund what FREE means don't use this ~~~~ing word!

Sometimes i ask them that this version of car is supported and he always say YES next i program key and avdi fails and then i have broken new key and sometimes also don't working car - they talking to me that i'm idiot and can't program keys - next after 1-3 months he relesed update for this not working function.

They don't respect me, I will don't respect them!

[habbyb]

This is the best LicenseViewer :D :D
Hello,and to me it is the same LicenseViewer after the last update, do you know something about it ??? Thanks.

[rapidlocksmiths]

its not possible to argue against points , as all are the experience of many of us , none of us seem to be considered important to our suppliers , only new customers seem important till they become old customers.

in fairness its not just them , when you reach the point you become one of the top 3 in your field , a certain arrogance tends to display itself , greed creeps in and the attitude that your bigger and better than your customers so can do what you like , but as many have found in this trade , no one stays in top 3 for ever , and as cryptoworks found , alienate your customers and there may be no way back with them.

In an ideal world you buy you own , you buy and what you buy works as advertised , ours is far from an ideal world sadly.

like whiskyman i would prefer to see bugs fixed in existing licences than some of the new releases , but bug fixes i suspect are low priority as these dont make new money , im lucky my avdi has paid back on what does work well , and some licences i can only praise them on , for now the positives still outweigh the negatives , but thats my case and i appreciate not same for everyone .

if im honest , i suspect we have lost suburu , the lack of response speaks volumes , thus we adjust our investment stratergy and only invest in what we know works with them and divert other money into alternate products . trades always been the same and most manufacturers have similar issues , none are perfect , it doesnt excuse how old customers are treated , just confirms we can rely on no one at end of day.

[autokljucevi]

Hi all,
i tried to add new key to Passat B7. 2012. but i could not do it. i was using vag 27.6.
Is it possible to do this job through OBD with new VAG update?
Thanks
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[indienick]

Hi all,
i tried to add new key to Passat B7. 2012. but i could not do it. i was using vag 27.6.
Is it possible to do this job through OBD with new VAG update?
Thanks
427633427634427635427636

@autokljucevi all keys lost or not?


if spare key for this vehicle you use INSTRUMENT CAN

[autokljucevi]

I have one working key, i tried to read EDC17 to, but it did work. i have done Passat B6 successfully before
did not tried Instrument can...
Thanks

[habbyb]

Hello,not no way is not instrument can it happened to me,to me it was cs 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

[habbyb]

Hello,try to read engine control unit edc 17 and please post here rezult.

[autoTkey]

For B7 you need to read EDC17 through BOOT mode to get CS and PIN. It can't be done by OBDII like B6.

[habbyb]

You are connected to the internet and you have license for EDC17/MED17, AN048 ????

[autokljucevi]

Hello,try to read engine control unit edc 17 and please post here rezult.

tried this, but it could not read it , i have AN048

[totalkey]

Hi all,
i tried to add new key to Passat B7. 2012. but i could not do it. i was using vag 27.6.
Is it possible to do this job through OBD with new VAG update?
Thanks
427633427634427635427636
Had same year amd could read.edc17 by obd but cant get 7th byte

[autokljucevi]

For B7 you need to read EDC17 through BOOT mode to get CS and PIN. It can't be done by OBDII like B6. but i was testing once AVDI on B7 2011, and read successfully CS through OBDII. so i presumed it will work well on all Passat B7. Maybe this one from 2012 have something different.

[autokljucevi]

You are connected to the internet and you have license for EDC17/MED17, AN048 ???? i have license for EDC17/MED17, AN048. I m not sure was I online at the moment, but it did not conect to ecu , i know that he goes online at some point of reading. Thanks all

[norman1967]

Hello all, has anybody yet has there February updates?

[gttuning]

I had passat 2012 and did not work.had to get ccm out.

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[gttuning]

Hello all, has anybody yet has there February updates?
I dont have yet.

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[ThiagoArgentino]

Questions with Mercedes W203.


Keys are already BGA. AVDI requests virgin ESL. Many doubts ... No solution, has anyone had this?

[i-vtec]

Hello all, has anybody yet has there February updates?

i have it - and today download speed was ok

[indienick]

I have one working key, i tried to read EDC17 to, but it did work. i have done Passat B6 successfully before
did not tried Instrument can...
Thanks

This car programs different from B7. Try Instrument CAN. It should work by OBD no problem if you have one working key. Put cluster into boot mode, add key, return from boot mode....done.

[gttuning]

i have it - and today download speed was ok
Best customer 😊😊😊.
They look after you.😊

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[shafo]

Anybody read edc17 boot mode via zn051 distribution box yet? The instructions in the manual have me a bit confused ...there is a white wire on the db-15 cable that is clearly labeled "boot" but according to manual ecu boot goes directly to gnd cable...

[micromax]

Best customer .
They look after you.

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when downloader is 1 , speed always it`s ok :-)

[Fallen]

Questions with Mercedes W203.


Keys are already BGA. AVDI requests virgin ESL. Many doubts ... No solution, has anyone had this?

Remove and read Eis with programmer, 100% will work.

[isma123]

i have bought mn026 to not remouve and solder eis

[isma123]

when downloader is 1 , speed always it`s ok :-)

the only one who got it!!

i thought that updates are relased from server automaticly

[habbyb]

Questions with Mercedes W203.


Keys are already BGA. AVDI requests virgin ESL. Many doubts ... No solution, has anyone had this?
Hello,for W203 is not BGA best read mcu HC08 with programer as said Fallen It is the most safe.

[autoTkey]

IR adapter should be able to read pass through DAS manager...

[habbyb]

For B7 you need to read EDC17 through BOOT mode to get CS and PIN. It can't be done by OBDII like B6.
Hello mate,I do not have it license VN004 say please if you have been successful with this license read cs and pin.

[Gavra]

W203 never took more than 15 min to get pass with IR adapter with all key lost.

[lupu_sandu]

Anybody tested read eeprom function from Edc15 VAG after last update?
I'm unable to read any edc15 from VAG and also i'm unable to make virgin/write eeprom on a 5NF.T1 ecu from Stilo.

[autoTkey]

I'm considering to stop updating it ;)
With each update they add some new function they also damage something that's been working perfectly before.


Hello mate,I do not have it license VN004 say please if you have been successful with this license read cs and pin.
PIN and CS extraction is working perfectly by BOOT reading of ECU. At least for now ...until they get a funny idea to damage this function as well.

[i-vtec]

impossible to do milage in edc17 without ~~~~ing distribution shit!

[gttuning]

impossible to do milage in edc17 without ~~~~ing distribution shit!
Yep but you can read in boot mode with out the box.i dont understand that.

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[yugo45]

I'm considering to stop updating it ;)
With each update they add some new function they also damage something that's been working perfectly before.


PIN and CS extraction is working perfectly by BOOT reading of ECU. At least for now ...until they get a funny idea to damage this function as well.


Yep but you can read in boot mode with out the box.i dont understand that.

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They force people to buy stuff form them, but past 3 years we have to make our own tool to read ECU, Nice company , is it?

[yugo45]

Hi all,
i tried to add new key to Passat B7. 2012. but i could not do it. i was using vag 27.6.
Is it possible to do this job through OBD with new VAG update?
Thanks



Hello mate,I do not have it license VN004 say please if you have been successful with this license read cs and pin.

For any Passat with ID48 is much easy to read eeprom of CCM , and post here in DK to get CS and pin.
Once you have CS and Pin, just precode key and adopt it with VCDS.

[Gavra]

True,but some of us are on DK to share experience ,not to get free PIN because we didn't invest in our tools to get job done ;)

[i-vtec]

If i read edc17 in boot mode i have info that strongly recomended is use distrirbution shit - i bet that next update it will be mandatory!

How about people that buy first vesrion of distribution shit with relay for 200 Euro? must pay next 200 euro?
BTW on picture i see that this distribution shit is very low quality - i don't know why this cost 200 euro - it's only plastick shell shit and few wires and of course resistors for 10 euro cents.

Volvo still update firmware every time i'm run program.

Can someone check TagKKeyTool with old key programer after update is very poor transponder detection, also i can't program keys to nec 2009+ i have still error that transponder is not recognize / cheange position! Support of courese helped me as usual and say BUY PROTAG! befeore update working ok.

Also i can't read eeprom from edc15 in psa!

BTW Alex for what hell on your website is wrote that avdi read flash from edc15 in psa - button are greyed!

Why you all the time cheating people?

[offsystem]

Correct i vtec i also bought the relay shit now i need to buy again the box.
The relay version was just for beta testers 🤔

I also have the problem with the transponder detection which was working in the past.

[isma123]

yes
because now you have to buy protag

they could make an exchange program for user who paied 600€ for old tag porogrammer

no you have to pay full price

[gttuning]

If i read edc17 in boot mode i have info that strongly recomended is use distrirbution shit - i bet that next update it will be mandatory!

How about people that buy first vesrion of distribution shit with relay for 200 Euro? must pay next 200 euro?
BTW on picture i see that this distribution shit is very low quality - i don't know why this cost 200 euro - it's only plastick shell shit and few wires and of course resistors for 10 euro cents.

Volvo still update firmware every time i'm run program.

Can someone check TagKKeyTool with old key programer after update is very poor transponder detection, also i can't program keys to nec 2009+ i have still error that transponder is not recognize / cheange position! Support of courese helped me as usual and say BUY PROTAG! befeore update working ok.

Also i can't read eeprom from edc15 in psa!

BTW Alex for what hell on your website is wrote that avdi read flash from edc15 in psa - button are greyed!

Why you all the time cheating people?
About relay kit its ~~~~ing not fare to release some distribution box weeks latter and charge customers that bought relay kit full price for upgrade box.

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[isma123]

also they oblige you to buy AB prog you cant load dumps read with other programmer

[rapidlocksmiths]

seems alot of unhappy avdi customers after last 2 updates , has anyone emailed support for answers yet

[whiskeyman]

like farting in the wind mate

[parapilot]

So the relay kit that a lot of us got last month is now going to be useless? Will software be
looking for dist box? I was under the impression the cable kit did the same just the box was tidy version??

if not then they need to refund / upgrade the dist box at cost.

[FXless]

Anybody tested read eeprom function from Edc15 VAG after last update?
I'm unable to read any edc15 from VAG and also i'm unable to make virgin/write eeprom on a 5NF.T1 ecu from Stilo.
Cant read any vag edc15 as well. Contacted support and they said they will release update soon.

[garagetech007]

About relay kit its ~~~~ing not fare to release some distribution box weeks latter and charge customers that bought relay kit full price for upgrade box.

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I also paid for a relay kit not happy to see another addition of cables superseding to do job

[habbyb]

True,but some of us are on DK to share experience ,not to get free PIN because we didn't invest in our tools to get job done ;)
Hello,if you have all cs data in dump tool you can see pin cod i did last week passat cc 2010 precod and learn with abrites.

[garagetech007]

Can someone help i have a bmw e60 2007 auto with mileage discrepancies in the dash coming up with tampering dot and also traction light on , someone had a go with mileage.

How to rectify this ?

[ttzag]

Hello,if you have all cs data in dump tool you can see pin cod i did last week passat cc 2010 precod and learn with abrites.
it was id 48 or 46 ?

[whiskeyman]

Told you guys while back
start looking for other tools
this company has no respect


2x jobs this week where vvdi2 do job abrities fail

move on

[garagetech007]

Told you guys while back
start looking for other tools
this company has no respect


2x jobs this week where vvdi2 do job abrities fail

move on

Which 2 job abritus fail?

[habbyb]

it was id 48 or 46 ?
ID 48 all key lost

[habbyb]

Told you guys while back
start looking for other tools
this company has no respect


2x jobs this week where vvdi2 do job abrities fail

move on
Hello. what do you mean abaut fail ?

[gttuning]

Told you guys while back
start looking for other tools
this company has no respect


2x jobs this week where vvdi2 do job abrities fail

move on
What jobs?

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[rapidlocksmiths]

ive not had a vag edc15 to try since update , if not working then this is a concern as a very common ecu to encounter , luckily i have multiple other options but thats not the point .

whats failing to read ? ie unable to read to get pin code using engine control unit function ?

if the case then this is a poor situation as worked great before updates , ive not had one to test this on since update so can only voice concern on what im reading , if the case are abrites aware and working to restote this Alekn ? as not a good advert for equipment , i can understand bugs in new licences in early releases but not in previously working functions ? do the updates get tested before released upon us ?

in view of the issues highlighted you must appreciate answers are needed , and you did say in your earlier post that anyone with technical problems should post and your team will work to resolve them here , well id say if correct and some previously working functions are no longer working then this constitutes technical problems wouldnt you.

im hoping that those that have experienced these failures have raised support tickets and sent log files making your team aware of the issues and that you are already working on fixing these ?

[ttzag]

any one have a problem to synchornization with internet ?? i have only 6 days and it cant synchro !!

[norman1967]

Mine is OK and I have my Feb updates all ok

[ecuremap1]

~Right i am not normally one to complain as i think sometimes people like to moan for the fun of it on here....

but i just tried to go to a 2008 lost key 204 connected all okay if you go in as no relay option the counter will start going up but if i chose the one with relay option it wont go up!!! i think this is because i dont have Distribution Box

Waiting for a responce from support - not happy

[carmelasse]

Hair-raising head as I read the last few pages of this topic.
I have AVDI with the majority of full licenses of all brands. I have no way to test everything up to date, but I can see that with each update something wanes.
Especially diminished customer confidence in the company Abrites :(
Now I see why today do not have their own forum on the Abrites site.
They can not keep up with the answers.

For several years, I look forward to the opportunity to do Component Protection in cars with a new type of Gateway module. (Of course, instead of a free update will appear as a new option for 1000 euros. :( )
Now I have to buy it for distribution shit that looks like a box cobbled together by ten-year and costs more than a good programmer:(

Today regret buying AVDI.
Today, I would choose VVDI / FVDI.

[garagetech007]

What type of a dictatorial relationship is this by abritus company with their existing customers. Binding new hardware and software licenses with already purchased licenses [emoji35][emoji35][emoji35][emoji35][emoji35]

[i-vtec]

this is insane what abrites doing with us

BTW alek what happened width acura/honda software - few years ago on your website was info is acura/honda software is under developmend and soon will be availble - how long we must wait?

secound thing is wen you relase bmw 2 on news was info that this software soon will work on windows, linux an mac os - what the hell you doing width this

or maybe SOON is next world to your dictionary that i'm explain few post before?

next big shit is passthru compabylity with OEM diagnostics - maybe is working but only width specific verson from 10 years old

alek how long ASAP take time abrites?

or mayby ASAP is next word to your dictionary....

how long you need time to turn off this ~~~~ing info about distribution shit in vag software?

BTW why distribution shit looks like chinese shit?

IF YOU DO NOT HAVE AVDI AND YOU THINKING TO BUY IT - DON'T BUY - YOU WILL BE DISAPOINTED AND EVERY TIME ROBBED AND YOU NEVER GET SUPPORT

[rapidlocksmiths]

i had put aside a significant amount of money to spend on some new avdi products , however in view of recent updates and issues , i will be hanging on to my investment longer to see how abrites react to the problems and issues in recent updates , it was my intention to stick with the abrites brand which i have always liked , but loyalty has been stretched recently , i wont rush into buying zedfull , vvdi products yet, as i would rather stick with what i know , but i will be hanging on to my money until i see how this unfolds as the situation is a long way from ideal.

i prefer to stick with avdi , and im sure i will do so long into the future , but before investing deeper i will see how this unfolds first as sensible .

[JFR-Tuning]

FACTS:

i buy in Januar 2014 new full interface for 9.999 Eur
I buy new mercedes mn025 for 500 EUR
i buy Protag new 800 Eur
every year AMS 500 EUR
some cables

so now for full I have to pay 6.450 Eur ( Februar 2017)

so every body can check themselves if it earn money or not. I buy it .

on some exhibition like Paris they offer the full with 10.000 Eur

bad ad is you must buy a other tool for dash audi after 2013 and Vw Golf 7 . Abrites don't do it some years now

[JFR-Tuning]

Questions with Mercedes W203.


Keys are already BGA. AVDI requests virgin ESL. Many doubts ... No solution, has anyone had this?

i write before

is different by W203 old or newer. The old with Hc08 better to read by EZS programmer to extract. Because you have to put and put out some k times the key in and out.
newer ones you take only few minutes to read Passwort

i don't Test ist with new update

abd yes in some cases you have to vergin the ELV to do this job. No problem , after Job You firstly sync it again

[AlekN]

this is insane what abrites doing with us

BTW alek what happened width acura/honda software - few years ago on your website was info is acura/honda software is under developmend and soon will be availble - how long we must wait?

secound thing is wen you relase bmw 2 on news was info that this software soon will work on windows, linux an mac os - what the hell you doing width this

or maybe SOON is next world to your dictionary that i'm explain few post before?

next big shit is passthru compabylity with OEM diagnostics - maybe is working but only width specific verson from 10 years old

alek how long ASAP take time abrites?

or mayby ASAP is next word to your dictionary....

how long you need time to turn off this ~~~~ing info about distribution shit in vag software?

BTW why distribution shit looks like chinese shit?

IF YOU DO NOT HAVE AVDI AND YOU THINKING TO BUY IT - DON'T BUY - YOU WILL BE DISAPOINTED AND EVERY TIME ROBBED AND YOU NEVER GET SUPPORT

We have a developer on the honda who is working on that.
The BMW 2 is available for cross platforms. I believe that when the rest of the software migrates to the new platform.
Passthru is not shit, passthru works with 2016 versions
Please note that software development requires time to develop a tool for you guys to use it.
Please just stop using untrue facts or give me a particular example instead of trolling.

[i-vtec]

Why you all the time don't answer for our question?

I GIVE YOU EXAMPLES LIKE FEW OTHER DK MEMBERS ALL THE TIME BUT YOU DON'T ANSWER FOR THEM, so lets doing it again:

1 FOR WHAT I MUST HAVE DISTRIBUTION SHIT FOR MILAEGE CORRECTION? When i buy this function will no mention about distribution shit and it's working!
2 WHERE IS SUBARU FREE KEYPROGRAMMINNG, abrites gives this function to all AVDi width AMS
3 LOOK AT THE PIC FOR DISTRIBUTION SHIT! It is a HIGH QUALITY FOR 200 EURO?
4 WHY I MUSY PAY AGAIN 200 EURO FOR DISTRIBUTION SHIT WHEN I HAVE WIRING WITH RELAY?
5 WHY PROTAG DON'T PROGRAM/ERASE/READ BE KEYS FOR MB?
6 INSTALL NEW GDS and CHECK and don't give us SHIT, GDS working only ECM/TCM, in new wersion nothing is working!
7 INSTALL XENTRY nad CHECK - nothing working!

All the members from DK. Look like this person/company treat us, we wrote few pages with no working function, problems, cheats and this guy answers only few words (of course only comfortable answers). All the my words about abrites is 100% true and can prove all in court if you wish!

BTW about forcing us to buy distribution shit i have a great idea for abrites, MAYBY YOU CAN DEVELOP WIRING WIDTH BIG BLACK DILDO (of cours minimal price 1 000 euro) and when we wroking on cars we must connect AVDI -> ABPROG -> BIG BLACK DILDO and PUT THIS IN OUR CLIENT ASS and only them PROGRAMMING WILL BE AVAILBLE? I thinking every client abrites buy this immediately!

[Gavra]

AlekN here is some fact for you, screenshot after today's update. Anything disturbing on this picture?

https://s27.postimg.org/hfvk0dukj/AVDI_vag_menu.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/oj3ffzzzz/)host image online (https://postimage.org/)

Let me help you, MISSING from menu

1: EDC17 and MED17 boot option

2: EDC/MED17 Direct PIN/CS

3: DPF OFF

4: Simos PCR2.1

[micromax]

all function go to "engine control unit" button

[i-vtec]

AlekN here is some fact for you, screenshot after today's update. Anything disturbing on this picture?

https://s27.postimg.org/hfvk0dukj/AVDI_vag_menu.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/oj3ffzzzz/)host image online (https://postimage.org/)

Let me help you, MISSING from menu

1: EDC17 and MED17 boot option

2: EDC/MED17 Direct PIN/CS

3: DPF OFF

4: Simos PCR2.1

all this is like mircromax wrote in Engine Control Unit, this info was on abritres site in news - this is clering interface - this is not a bug like other things, you must be more watchful...

[rapidlocksmiths]

Hi AlekN

the issues that will be causing concern to most are ;

1) The claimed Tag tool issues since update
2) the free suburu key programming functions that have been taken away
3) the claimed edc15 reading issues since update
4) the forced necessity for the new distribution box on edc17 when this wasnt required before

these seem to be the issues that most are concerned or upset about , and most seek answers on what is happening about these issues , are you aware of them and working on them to be fixed in update , have no log files or issues been reported to abrites and only raised on this forum so you was unaware but will look into it , all are specific issues that im sure can be easily answered by you and maybe restore peace and harmony again, as the current situation helps no one and results in fall outs .

[Gavra]

You guys are wright, but I am expecting to get pop-up window with detailed description what have been changed in new version of SW for device paid almost 30k euros :@:@:@

[i-vtec]

Hi AlekN

the issues that will be causing concern to most are ;

1) The claimed Tag tool issues since update
2) the free suburu key programming functions that have been taken away
3) the claimed edc15 reading issues since update
4) the forced necessity for the new distribution box on edc17 when this wasnt required before

these seem to be the issues that most are concerned or upset about , and most seek answers on what is happening about these issues , are you aware of them and working on them to be fixed in update , have no log files or issues been reported to abrites and only raised on this forum so you was unaware but will look into it , all are specific issues that im sure can be easily answered by you and maybe restore peace and harmony again, as the current situation helps no one and results in fall outs .

5) EDC15 in psa eeprom readnig also now not working
6) EDC15 in psa flash reading NEVER WORKING - on abrites sitre is wrote that avdi car read/write flash on edc15

[nazz2]

All above+ Don't forget vag k line and latest prox ford needs sorting.

[totalkey]

Let use out time to make a different in other stuff , alek and abrites dosnt answer anyway.
They dont care what we are said , so why try over and over again?
He read all the stuff we wrote and just ignore

[Jan1980]

Mates, why your are not understanding ? It makes no sense to ask questions to alek on the forum. Alek only writes to sell new products and to make advertising or to show new videos, that customers want to buy their products. I asked many times for rom51 password read on older benz models for example. They make advertising with this function and i payed for this function, but it never worked in reality ! They are not interested to help current customers, they are only interested to sell their tools, cables and licences... Like i said before a few posts...no matter, if it would be a tool for a few hundred euros..but for a tool in AVDI price range, everything have to work 1000% and support, too.

[autoTkey]

Guys I guess this is a well known problem and probably solution is also well known for most of you but I just bumped into it and couldn't find the solution in the AVDI manual(which is almost empty), neither in the forum.
Car is BMW E60, AVDI connects with both of it's softwares. Key is chinese and is blank and I couldn't find the option to prepare it before making it a dealer key, hence it was refused as non-suitable for the car.
It was a 5 minute job with the Xhorse BMW Multi tool, though...
Is there an option to prepare these keys with AVDI automatically or I must read the content of one prepared key and then write the data to all other keys manually through HITAG2?

[i-vtec]

Guys I guess this is a well known problem and probably solution is also well known for most of you but I just bumped into it and couldn't find the solution in the AVDI manual(which is almost empty), neither in the forum.
Car is BMW E60, AVDI connects with both of it's softwares. Key is chinese and is blank and I couldn't find the option to prepare it before making it a dealer key, hence it was refused as non-suitable for the car.
It was a 5 minute job with the Xhorse BMW Multi tool, though...
Is there an option to prepare these keys with AVDI automatically or I must read the content of one prepared key and then write the data to all other keys manually through HITAG2?

everybody knows that bmw + avdi = shit, i have full bmw and must buy other tools for bmw because avdi is very weak in bmw

btw, i also must buy bmw explorer and for now everytime i use it to bmw allways work

so don't bother about avdi in bmw simply buy other tool and you be satisfied

[totalkey]

This is not true, i made many china keys for cas3 and cas3+ , just read manual.
Keep it real buddy

[i-vtec]

i also do many this keys width avdi but in some cases avdi fails on cas3+ width updated software, that's why i must buy bmw explorer....

[gttuning]

Hi all 2013 keyless citroen c4 i there any issue programing this or not?have a customer looking for key.
Thanks

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[khalcdi]

Hi all 2013 keyless citroen c4 i there any issue programing this or not?have a customer looking for key.
Thanks

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hi,
in update Abrites Diagnostics for Peugeot/ Citroen 7.1 (http://www.abritus72.com/products/abrites-diagnostics/for-peugeot-citroen) they claim that can register after key learning . not tested yet , but SKP900 do it from long time if you want tested solution.

[autokljucevi]

For any Passat with ID48 is much easy to read eeprom of CCM , and post here in DK to get CS and pin.
Once you have CS and Pin, just precode key and adopt it with VCDS. but i bought AVDI so i can do this job via OBDII. and this is second passat B7 i could not add new key, and i have one working key.
Can anyone confirm that Passat B7 2012, can be done in Instrument Can special function, than service mode by OBDII and add key? like adding key in Golf VI.
One member suggested that, is that safe to try?
Thanks.

I have done few B6 via OBDII with AVDI successfully, but no luck with B7

[autoTkey]

This is not true, i made many china keys for cas3 and cas3+ , just read manual.
Keep it real buddy

If you are talking about the part where it says I need to change some data - I read it. Problem is the chinese key was only FF's inside(except for the ID) and there was nothing to change. At least that's what AVDI displayed. Anyways - I changed UserData0 as in the manual but obviously it didn't help.

[rapidlocksmiths]

would you answer questions if abused or refered to as shit , a cheat or a lier so many times , i know i wouldnt , id be surprised to get any answers in this manner and i have to say that i can fully understand him taking offence and not answering , i dont believe its any way to achieve a solution and will just hamper attempts to try and reach a solution by debate and Q & A .
i understand people are frustrated and angry , but abusive and aggresive posts will cause someone to ignore and will resolve nothing .

[i-vtec]

for them it's dosent matter...

i have full avdi from years and when is a problem they answer all the time the same unless shit

i don't cheat my own clients so why they cheat us?

Do I wrote any untruth about avdi?

[nazz2]

What would work better is, instead of swearing and insults, we should compile a list of what is "not working", and what is "working", then if he doesn't respond, or fix the issues, feel free to admire him!.

[i-vtec]

yes but till today we create few list and alekn don't answer for any question, you can't see this?

[nazz2]

Show me the list?

[i-vtec]

for example #4476 #4480 - read post before and you will se...

[nazz2]

This is all over the place ,there fore not a list and it takes ages to sieve through them., we don't have a working, or not working list in one place. it would be very helpful if we could compile this list in one place though.