View Full Version : Kess Clone Sofware Download
bts
19th March, 2011, 11:36 PM
Hi,
Use good-bye...
all press thanks :beer:
bts
20th March, 2011, 10:18 PM
Free program.
zecas
21st March, 2011, 12:23 AM
hello
what is the password??
chiptorque
21st March, 2011, 11:18 AM
if you please could send the password? to prove?
Nio
21st March, 2011, 12:47 PM
Please post password
Thanks
4ly-syk
21st March, 2011, 12:56 PM
password?????
bts
21st March, 2011, 09:13 PM
Private message has been sent.
hello
what is the password??
if you please could send the password? to prove?
Please post password
Thanks
password?????
bts
21st March, 2011, 09:19 PM
Kess Clone Software picture
bts
21st March, 2011, 09:23 PM
Kess Clone Car list
psico
21st March, 2011, 10:44 PM
I need password friend. thanks.
sk80sr
21st March, 2011, 10:52 PM
password
thanks
Mario32
22nd March, 2011, 10:05 AM
Can I get the password please.
peko
22nd March, 2011, 10:56 AM
hi friends
which interface you use with this sw ?
btr
22nd March, 2011, 12:24 PM
please pass
thanks
vinz
22nd March, 2011, 03:02 PM
please pass
Thanks
Stan64
22nd March, 2011, 04:13 PM
Can I get the password please.
Thanks
robson82
22nd March, 2011, 08:57 PM
Can I get the password please.
bts
22nd March, 2011, 09:20 PM
Private message has been sent.
bts
22nd March, 2011, 09:23 PM
Read me first
key: 5440-4010-8195-9505
1.this software must run in Windows xp
2.you must change year to 2009
3.after install please copy language folder to c:\expi.
btr
22nd March, 2011, 09:24 PM
Private message has been sent.
thanks:rock:
bts
23rd March, 2011, 08:08 PM
thanks:rock:
good program
maglaras
23rd March, 2011, 11:25 PM
ok the software
how can i make it work this software on original kess??
and did they work in another hardware???
thank you
bts
24th March, 2011, 12:53 AM
[QUOTE=maglaras;1027799]ok the software
how can i make it work this software on original kess??
and did they work in another hardware???
thank you[/QUOTE ]
Kess Interface
tehnosoftex
24th March, 2011, 05:17 PM
Hi, can you please give me the password
Thank you
moky
24th March, 2011, 05:19 PM
Pass please?
thx a lot !!
moky
24th March, 2011, 06:41 PM
Thx bts !!!
dunnnia
24th March, 2011, 09:10 PM
Hi,password please :)
electrix
25th March, 2011, 06:55 AM
Hi, please send me password.
bts
25th March, 2011, 11:45 AM
Hi, please send me password.
Private message has been sent.
bts
25th March, 2011, 11:46 AM
Hi, please send me password.
Private message has been sent.
johnfourth
25th March, 2011, 12:29 PM
Pasword please !
Thank you .
19antonio
25th March, 2011, 02:21 PM
Hi, can you please give me the password
Thank you
super jumbe
25th March, 2011, 07:14 PM
Hi bts, please give me the password
Thanks in advance
teed
25th March, 2011, 07:58 PM
Please password please!
Thank you.
bts
25th March, 2011, 09:03 PM
Private message has been sent.
Pasword please !
Thank you .
Hi, can you please give me the password
Thank you
Hi bts, please give me the password
Thanks in advance
Please password please!
Thank you.
super jumbe
25th March, 2011, 10:58 PM
Confused, how do I change to year 2009? Any 1
:embarassed:
bouzimeca
25th March, 2011, 11:10 PM
pass please
Jorge Manuel Santos
26th March, 2011, 02:04 AM
pass please
ingeniero222222
26th March, 2011, 02:09 AM
Por favor enviar contrase?a
Gracias.
ingeniero222222
26th March, 2011, 02:10 AM
por favor enviar contrase?a.
Gracias.
ingeniero222222
26th March, 2011, 02:20 AM
Please password please!
Regards.
auobd2
26th March, 2011, 08:20 AM
ok, got no password.
(http://www.auobd2.com/kess-obd-tuning-kit-472.html)
dolphin123
26th March, 2011, 12:31 PM
please send rar file password
reinzg
26th March, 2011, 07:06 PM
What version and 'software
pkeeney
27th March, 2011, 03:07 AM
password please thanks
Peufrs2
27th March, 2011, 01:23 PM
pass please
thanks
scooby99
27th March, 2011, 06:01 PM
Why have we got four pages asking for the password ,Will someone just post it and stop folk asking for it
PASSWORD FREE REMEMBER THIS OLD SAYING
cheers
scooby99
krzysztoff22
27th March, 2011, 06:38 PM
Hi,password please
baltazar3
27th March, 2011, 09:08 PM
Hello !
Pass please
thx
mpsgsm
27th March, 2011, 09:10 PM
I need password too.
paul_12345
29th March, 2011, 12:55 AM
or could just download from
KESS OBD Tuning Kit(V3.1)-OBDAUTO---BMW OPS VAG-COM,Tacho Universal,KWP2000,BMW Scanner,BMW Carsoft,ELM323,Code Reader,Can-bus (http://www.obdauto.com/views.asp?hw_id=962)
Nio
30th March, 2011, 02:07 PM
Very nice bts.
This program function better than the software i has before installing this one.
Wonderfull. :party:
psico
30th March, 2011, 02:40 PM
Very nice bts.
This program function better than the software i has before installing this one.
Wonderfull. :party:
that used before magpro 3.0 software?
macxlulu
31st March, 2011, 08:33 AM
pass please
wcysj08
31st March, 2011, 09:02 AM
Hi, can you please give me the password
Thank you
dema2
31st March, 2011, 09:11 PM
Hi dear friend, if is possible, i need password, thank to you
dema2 italy
:beheaded:
Denilson
1st April, 2011, 01:44 AM
password please
ankara06
1st April, 2011, 12:37 PM
need 3.1 version
v 2.1 free in here http://www.vas5054.com/KESS-OBD-TURNING-KIT.rar
bts
2nd April, 2011, 12:17 AM
pass please
Private message has been sent.
bts
2nd April, 2011, 12:18 AM
Hi, can you please give me the password
Thank you
Private message has been sent.
bts
2nd April, 2011, 12:18 AM
Hi dear friend, if is possible, i need password, thank to you
dema2 italy
:beheaded:
Private message has been sent.
bts
2nd April, 2011, 12:19 AM
password please
Private message has been sent.
sparkz02
2nd April, 2011, 10:56 PM
password please, good work
aozcelik
3rd April, 2011, 09:27 AM
Please Passwd
thanks
tinaca
3rd April, 2011, 09:36 AM
Please password please!
Thank you.
:bounce:
flint77
5th April, 2011, 01:13 PM
pass please
thanks
svasiljev
5th April, 2011, 02:07 PM
password please,thanks
adek
6th April, 2011, 11:11 AM
password please,thanks
psico
6th April, 2011, 06:00 PM
which software is better magpro2 3.0? or the expiry of 2.1?
Someone knows if the clones running magpro2 3.0 works also the expiry 2.1?
Greetings
ocociram
6th April, 2011, 09:41 PM
please send rar file password
Blckwlf
6th April, 2011, 10:21 PM
Hi, if is possible, i need password, thank to you.
Blckwlf.
bachlar
6th April, 2011, 11:16 PM
I need password friend. thanks
abu deab
8th April, 2011, 01:38 AM
password please thanks
Sarge786
8th April, 2011, 01:27 PM
Password Please :)
Overtune
8th April, 2011, 02:04 PM
PM me the pass please thanx
bts
8th April, 2011, 07:55 PM
Private message has been sent.
password please, good work
Please Passwd
thanks
Please password please!
Thank you.
:bounce:
pass please
thanks
password please,thanks
password please,thanks
please send rar file password
Hi, if is possible, i need password, thank to you.
Blckwlf.
I need password friend. thanks
Hi, please send me password.
password please thanks
Password Please :)
PM me the pass please thanx
FastGas
9th April, 2011, 12:42 PM
password please thanks
bouzimeca
10th April, 2011, 12:52 AM
Can I get the password please.
Thanks
cristyand
10th April, 2011, 01:31 PM
pass please.
thanks
scarymistake
10th April, 2011, 02:08 PM
Hi,
Use good-bye...
password
thanks
ps
where can I buy the clone
pug_dari
10th April, 2011, 04:38 PM
pass, please
thanks
Any good clone?
Digamax
10th April, 2011, 08:59 PM
PM me the pass please thanx
Best regards
Vladimir
dj_piex
10th April, 2011, 09:06 PM
send pm me whit password thx...
Edward Yun
11th April, 2011, 09:47 AM
password please thanks
;)
jarog
11th April, 2011, 08:01 PM
please pass
Thanks
Felix8
11th April, 2011, 08:36 PM
Pass...please, thanks
rocodou
12th April, 2011, 08:59 AM
please pass thanks
fifas2010
12th April, 2011, 09:17 AM
Password Please :)
BR
enzucciomio
12th April, 2011, 10:33 AM
Please....send pm me whit password
Thanks!
eiselt
12th April, 2011, 10:44 AM
Please Passwd
thanks
florin_leo
12th April, 2011, 11:21 AM
Please pass .Thanks.
gabi_d
12th April, 2011, 11:35 AM
Please pass .Thanks.
marcio1758
12th April, 2011, 01:59 PM
Pass please!! thanks!
ali re
12th April, 2011, 05:28 PM
hi
I need password friend.
thanks
vp44
12th April, 2011, 09:33 PM
Password please, thanks
SPMG
13th April, 2011, 12:39 PM
Can u send the password please.....
thanks..
budanicolae
14th April, 2011, 12:31 AM
PM me the pass please thanx
Best regards
rico
14th April, 2011, 01:43 PM
Password please, thanks
eliah
14th April, 2011, 06:35 PM
Password please, thanks
FastGas
15th April, 2011, 12:43 PM
all press thanks ;)
euro0
15th April, 2011, 10:28 PM
password please thanks
lolooo1981
15th April, 2011, 10:45 PM
Pretty cool !
Can i have the pass in PM, please?
Thanks a lot !
Do you have any good clone ?
thanks in advance
Poizn
16th April, 2011, 05:16 PM
Please pass in PM
Thanks
atd
16th April, 2011, 05:32 PM
Can i get the password? Thanks
alexbit68
16th April, 2011, 05:52 PM
come avere la password per provare il sw grazie ciao
kptuning
16th April, 2011, 06:03 PM
What sw is this? flashtec 13.1?
tward
16th April, 2011, 06:49 PM
password please
Autolocksmith
17th April, 2011, 05:48 AM
As the rest , password please.
Thanks
Vladimir.CDI
17th April, 2011, 07:29 AM
I need password too.
Thank you in advance
alexbit68
17th April, 2011, 08:37 AM
sorry my Italian language, I could also have the password for the program
miha99
17th April, 2011, 11:18 AM
I need password friend. thanks.
Jan Rune
17th April, 2011, 10:10 PM
I need password too. Thanks in advance
Aniskey
17th April, 2011, 11:39 PM
Thank you very much it is very usefull
matekhr
19th April, 2011, 12:36 PM
Can I have the password, too?
Thanks in advance.
FastGas
19th April, 2011, 01:03 PM
What sw is this? flashtec 13.1?
very old 13.0
kptuning
19th April, 2011, 02:32 PM
ok, then i dont need it
bts
19th April, 2011, 10:48 PM
Hi,
Use good-bye...
all press thanks :beer:
Password: By_bts_tr
Hi,
Use good-bye...
all press thanks :beer:
Autolocksmith
20th April, 2011, 05:32 AM
Idea on best interface ?
Thanks
einet
20th April, 2011, 03:54 PM
Hi,
PW Can I Have it?
einet
bts
20th April, 2011, 09:40 PM
Can I have the password, too?
Thanks in advance.
send to private
bts
30th April, 2011, 09:55 AM
Hi ,
i tar for a week for the password or the files from kess is this possible?
thanks
einet
Private message has been sent.
mavi
30th April, 2011, 10:50 AM
If people read all the post the password was post here only read the post:top:
antioqueno
2nd May, 2011, 02:33 PM
hello
what is the password??
easytech
2nd May, 2011, 07:21 PM
Password Please?
nil
3rd May, 2011, 01:21 PM
HI. Please pass. Thanks.
zigmut
3rd May, 2011, 08:43 PM
Hi,
Can i get the password please ?
Thanks.
Zohar
3rd May, 2011, 08:56 PM
Kess OBD Tuning Clone software download - wihout password
Link: http://www.vas5054.com/KESS-OBD-TURNING-KIT.rar
All press thanks!
niwat_spp
4th May, 2011, 02:41 PM
pass please:top:
mkosek
4th May, 2011, 11:04 PM
Can I get the password please.
alclot
5th May, 2011, 08:29 PM
please pass
Thanks
eduardo74
5th May, 2011, 11:06 PM
PASS please
xaralampos b.
7th May, 2011, 06:43 PM
pass thanks!!!!
pantadeo
17th May, 2011, 08:11 PM
Can I have the password, too?
Thanks in advance.
Min2xx
22nd May, 2011, 04:30 PM
Psw please?
khanzira
22nd May, 2011, 05:34 PM
hi i'm new member in this forum and i download the file but it doesn't open plase send me the program that can know and open this file
thanks for all
Becoacamba
22nd May, 2011, 06:37 PM
pass Please Thanks
samsai
22nd May, 2011, 06:48 PM
hi friends plzz password
thanks may adrass ( no addys to be posted :rulez: )
mecadriano
23rd May, 2011, 11:07 PM
I need password friend. thanks.
Autotecno2006
23rd May, 2011, 11:25 PM
hi, can i have password please ? thanks P.
ecu_deode
24th May, 2011, 02:01 PM
pls password
teo32
24th May, 2011, 05:34 PM
Hi, please send me password
got
25th May, 2011, 09:53 PM
Can I have a pass ,thanks
florinyes
25th May, 2011, 11:45 PM
Here is the file free for everyone..
Please hit thanks button.
https://rapidshare.com/files/262928954/kess-new.rar
seed212
26th May, 2011, 12:57 AM
password?????
thanks
florinyes
26th May, 2011, 08:22 AM
password?????
thanks
Just above your post, you can download the file..no password!
mikeslocks
9th June, 2011, 01:07 AM
admins this post needs closed!!!
ducatisti
10th June, 2011, 10:38 PM
Guys what interface is the clone software used with ? Can it be made ?
mariazo84
11th June, 2011, 12:44 AM
i need shiping tool flasher where ship??????????????????
ROMIKUS
11th June, 2011, 08:04 AM
Hi,
Use good-bye...
all press thanks :beer:
Password Please
florinyes
11th June, 2011, 01:02 PM
Password Please
see post #144
ROMIKUS
12th June, 2011, 01:14 PM
see post #144
Somehow can not download
florinyes
12th June, 2011, 01:20 PM
Somehow can not download
Just downloaded it no probs..
VTL511
14th June, 2011, 06:09 AM
what interface clone will this work with
scarymistake
14th June, 2011, 06:11 AM
what interface clone will this work with
read the whole post.
then ask
Please
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/4356/1112410166.jpg
bmwx5
27th June, 2011, 12:28 AM
please pass
thanks
cavignac
27th June, 2011, 08:39 PM
I need password friend. thanks
Marmes
27th June, 2011, 08:57 PM
I have the software without passwords . PM
yellowstilo
27th June, 2011, 09:05 PM
I have the software without passwords . PM
once again - all newbies please read the entire post before asking passwords , it's all there !!!!
Marmes
27th June, 2011, 11:24 PM
once again - all newbies please read the entire post before asking passwords , it's all there !!!!
I am not asking for passwords, I am telling that I have software without password, and if anyone wants it Ican give.
Best Regards.
chillsop
28th June, 2011, 04:08 PM
Please can I have the Password
florinyes
28th June, 2011, 06:02 PM
POST 144...no pass
cavignac
28th June, 2011, 07:28 PM
once again - all newbies please read the entire post before asking passwords , it's all there !!!!
dear sir
the password is not good
please provide a password just
benzerrouki
28th June, 2011, 09:05 PM
Pass please thanks
marijuana
29th June, 2011, 06:30 PM
password tanks
scarymistake
29th June, 2011, 08:04 PM
once again - all newbies please read the entire post before asking passwords , it's all there !!!!
aautista
30th June, 2011, 04:53 PM
Hi,
Use good-bye...
all press thanks :beer:
I need password friend. Thanks!
scarymistake
30th June, 2011, 06:51 PM
I need password friend. Thanks!
I think you're blind
If not then you have another problem
florinyes
30th June, 2011, 08:31 PM
I've given up!
Marmes
30th June, 2011, 09:22 PM
I HAVE IT WITHOUT PASSWORD AND I CAN GIVE IT!
PLEASE SEND PM!!!
dexspeed
2nd July, 2011, 05:18 PM
hi i did installed all version for magpro2 i received error Magp300.cfg error anyone help me pls :(
petristi
3rd July, 2011, 09:22 AM
Please Passwd
thanks
DemolitionMan
3rd July, 2011, 07:31 PM
Pass pm.........
Please click on the button with
thiburco
19th July, 2011, 10:00 PM
thanks!! pass please!
scarymistake
20th July, 2011, 12:33 PM
And the pass is
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f173/kess-clone-sofware-download-196292/index12.html#post1157594
thiburco
23rd July, 2011, 07:10 PM
pass please!
Thanks
allnamesused
27th July, 2011, 06:34 PM
press thanks :)
fargulkim
28th July, 2011, 09:02 AM
edc17 read write?
bts
13th August, 2011, 07:18 PM
edc17 read write?
Yes, edc17 read write
marujon
13th August, 2011, 10:36 PM
password please. I've flashtech 13.1 and magpro 2.42a with kess clone 4.2 hw
marujon
13th August, 2011, 10:54 PM
Yes, edc17 read write
you're jokink, magpro doesnt support edc17 withouth x17 addon (original).
lolooo1981
13th August, 2011, 10:59 PM
Yes, edc17 read write
Do you use official or clone tool ?
bts
15th August, 2011, 12:37 PM
oo MED17.x not edc17
florinyes
15th August, 2011, 02:51 PM
password please. I've flashtech 13.1 and magpro 2.42a with kess clone 4.2 hw
And you've read the thread??? Nowt??
bts
15th August, 2011, 09:49 PM
Do you use official or clone tool ?
Yes, clone tool
benguessoum
15th August, 2011, 10:23 PM
thanks dont forget password
utek
16th August, 2011, 01:17 PM
pass please
bts
16th August, 2011, 09:31 PM
pass please
Pass send pm
xr4ti
18th August, 2011, 12:24 AM
Pass pm.........
Please click on the button with
Please Passwd
thanks
bts
18th August, 2011, 09:02 PM
Please Passwd
thanks
sent a special message.
venigo
19th August, 2011, 01:31 AM
Where can I buy this clone tool.. Does it works with Golf 5 plus 1.6 FSI? And could you send me the password please. This tool is better then Galletto 1260?
dimitris717
19th August, 2011, 11:50 AM
pass please
thanks
diimon
21st August, 2011, 05:07 PM
pass please
boukad
21st August, 2011, 05:15 PM
hi
Please Passwd
thanks
bts
21st August, 2011, 05:36 PM
hi
Please Passwd
thanks
Private message has been sent.
lexa-dok
21st August, 2011, 06:10 PM
Please password please!
Thank you.
diimon
21st August, 2011, 06:30 PM
pass please
thanks
n599fbm
23rd August, 2011, 05:37 AM
pass,
tks,
C.
Harrycz44
24th August, 2011, 10:02 AM
pleas PASS.. thank you
bts
27th August, 2011, 06:38 PM
sent a special message.
bts
1st September, 2011, 06:11 PM
Harrycz44
sent a special message.http://static.app.widdit.com/images/features/searchwiddit.png (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/#)
egyclick
1st September, 2011, 06:37 PM
Hello bts,
please send me pass.
thank you!
Key Center
2nd September, 2011, 04:24 AM
thanks!! pass please!
bts
2nd September, 2011, 03:22 PM
Hello bts,
please send me pass.
thank you!
thanks!! pass please!
:wink:
Private message has been sent.
:wink:
dybou
3rd September, 2011, 05:39 PM
please pass
Thanks:party:
bts
3rd September, 2011, 10:11 PM
please pass
Thanks:party:
Private message has been sent.
bts
9th September, 2011, 11:43 AM
pass,
tks,
C.
Private message has been sent.
wob-in
9th September, 2011, 07:05 PM
please pass
alexbit68
9th September, 2011, 07:38 PM
hello people, password please!
Thank you.
baza baza
9th September, 2011, 09:13 PM
please pass
LockBit
9th September, 2011, 09:29 PM
Please password
Thanks
camarock
9th September, 2011, 09:44 PM
Hi pass please!!!
bts
13th September, 2011, 01:24 PM
PLEASE GIVE ME KEES CLONE SOFTWARE RAR PAS THANKS.
pm pass send
ced9416t
14th September, 2011, 02:00 PM
Please password
Thanks
ch_vladimir
14th September, 2011, 04:07 PM
Please password
Thanks
icogsm
16th September, 2011, 07:37 PM
Please password
Thanks
B.R.
tomek3232
16th September, 2011, 08:45 PM
Hi, please send me password.
polys123
16th September, 2011, 09:23 PM
pls send password
gigimercedes
17th September, 2011, 06:42 AM
Private message has been sent.
Hello, you can receive the pw?? hello thanks
ninja123
17th September, 2011, 07:49 AM
hi demolitionman, can i get the password please, also what interface you use for this (i know some pictures on here but that dont help!)
regards ninja
mstuning
17th September, 2011, 08:01 AM
please send me pw!thanks
cavignac
17th September, 2011, 08:02 PM
Please password
thanks
LockBit
17th September, 2011, 11:10 PM
hi
please pass
thanks
roman123
18th September, 2011, 07:38 AM
Hi, please send me password.
CarDiag84
18th September, 2011, 10:18 AM
Please pass
Thanks
kirilov
19th September, 2011, 03:21 AM
Hi ,
Please password
Thanks
bts
19th September, 2011, 07:36 AM
Hi, please send me password.
Sent to pm pass
darwins
21st September, 2011, 11:32 PM
The software is here: http://hotfile.com/dl/113266633/c73821d/kess.zip.html (http://hotfile.com/dl/113266633/c73821d/kess.zip.html)
How much longer does this thread have to be :)
Or maybe the software offered is later than the link above ?
darwins
21st September, 2011, 11:34 PM
The hardware is here: http://www.eobd2.com/wholesale/kess-obd-tuning-kit-1904.html (http://www.eobd2.com/wholesale/kess-obd-tuning-kit-1904.html)
Anyone else have a link ?
Is this a good cloan ?
DemolitionMan
27th September, 2011, 02:23 PM
PASSWORD MAG PRO VERSION 4.2 IS : 666
please click button thanks
SergeyIg
27th September, 2011, 06:27 PM
Hi, it is possible the password, in advance thanks.
rms_xtrm
2nd October, 2011, 07:41 PM
please pass
Thanks
DemolitionMan
6th October, 2011, 08:21 AM
hello you have to click on the button that says thank you!
migue
9th October, 2011, 09:47 PM
Can I get the password please.
thanks
dani2
10th October, 2011, 02:57 AM
password plz
Valera
10th October, 2011, 12:33 PM
Password please!
Thank you.
napel
10th October, 2011, 07:28 PM
Please see me PASSW
Thank?s
manuel89
10th October, 2011, 10:14 PM
password please
bts
12th October, 2011, 10:57 PM
Please see me PASSW
Thank?s
sent pass pm.
midnite
16th October, 2011, 07:33 PM
what a dull post!!! what the ~~~~....
why do people not read the thread?
whats the password lol
florinyes
16th October, 2011, 08:19 PM
I think people either taking the piss or are stupid..There's a few posts with free, no password downloading links plus a thread with a free to download version too..and they keep asking for pass in here.
How long does it have to go??
fred83
17th October, 2011, 12:01 PM
PLEASE MOT DE PASSE
yellowstilo
17th October, 2011, 01:40 PM
read the entire post !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it's all there !!!!!!!!!!!
to all others : read and search before asking for passwords !!!!!!!!
auto16
20th October, 2011, 02:07 AM
password?????
fred83
20th October, 2011, 02:56 PM
please mot de passe..............merci..
yellowstilo
20th October, 2011, 04:12 PM
arrrrrrgggggggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! read !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
are you blind or lazy ??
mmoneim
27th October, 2011, 11:45 AM
pass pls. and thanx
cipijoint
28th October, 2011, 06:50 AM
someone close the topic :)) whatever why they need this sw whitout interface? for bmw kess is nothing.
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