ORV COMMANDER RENAULT & OPEL

[hafido1983]

hi guys i want to your advice about orv commander renault et opel (clone china) if it works well or although my friends tell doesn't work is bad i want who use this product tell if i buy it or non
thanks in advance

[hafido1983]

any idea about i buy orv clone or original
i want your advice
thanks in advance

[augustinbz]

ORV Clone it is a shit tool !!!

[Reberstreem]

ORV Commander and separate Tag Key Tool from China not work ( work like shit ), but VAG Commander 8.6 with Tag Key Tool works better than the original.

[Iggie]

Can you explain how to make working Tag Key Tool (clone) with VAG Commander 8.6 software? I see that chinese clone of OVR and Tag Key Tool has the same serial number, but I was unable to run any of them (while running Opel, Volvo or Renault always getting the same error messsage: interface not calibrated!).

[obdmaster]

ORV Commander and separate Tag Key Tool from China not work ( work like shit ), but VAG Commander 8.6 with Tag Key Tool works better than the original.


How can clone VAG commander 8.6 work better than original?:roflmao:

[teuton]

How can clone VAG commander 8.6 work better than original?:roflmao:


Thank you for your common sense!!;)

[ggpanos]

..., but VAG Commander 8.6 with Tag Key Tool works better than the original.

Really ? Thanks to these good Chinese guys that help Abritus to improve its tool ! :eviltongue::eviltongue::eviltongue::eviltongue:

How can the clone work better than original? I am 100% sure that you are a liar ! The funny thing is that some scatterbrained reads your post and go and buy the clones. Are you Chinese?

Can you give us 3 examples that clone works and original tool does not ?:stupid:

[teuton]

Can you give us 3 examples that clone works and original tool does not ?:stupid:


Would be enough with just ONE example

[rapidlocksmiths]

let me think eeeerm

original programs golf mk6 clone does not
original programs passat pod keys clone does not
original programs most models after 2007 clone does not
original is updated , clone is not
original has support , clone does not
in short original works on all it claims to , clone does not

i can see how you would think that the clone works better , as you obviously have both to compare otherwise you couldnt make such a statement , do you sell the clones by some chance ?

The clone has no more coverage than vagcom or vag dash can , at least there is documented proof that vagdash can works , there is no such evidence for this clone so how can it be considered better than anything, in fact id bet that keycrypt , ad900 and the new zedbull lead have more coverage with updates and support than the clone will ever have.

its a no brainer when cheaper original kit with updates and back up is available , if you can afford it and make it pay you buy the original , if not then better and cheaper solutions exist than this poor clone , which to date no one can confirm works well even , as no one can afford throwing that much money away on something unproven that probably doesnt do as claimed.

im still to read of anyone having success with the clone on golf5 let alone any dealer key preperation , please enlighten us if you know different of course .

the orv ive seen some saying that it does vivaro and trafic , but no one has reported doing a clio 3 etc .

save your money .

[cicia]

ORV Commander and separate Tag Key Tool from China not work ( work like shit ), but VAG Commander 8.6 with Tag Key Tool works better than the original.

you get the chine vag commadner,did you test it ?
i got this information,VAG COMMADNER8.6 update to VAG VVDI interface;
Wholesale Vag Commander 8.6, Vag Commander 8.6 Suppliers,Vag Commander 8.6 Manufacturer (http://www.ufodiag.com/VAG+Diagnostic+Tool-china/VAG+Diagnostic+Tool-Vag++Commander+8.6-1799/)

[nicole99wu]

ORV Commander and separate Tag Key Tool from China not work ( work like shit ), but VAG Commander 8.6 with Tag Key Tool works better than the original.
yes, I get thistool works with my tag key tool. Although this tool is chinese clone, it works better than the original....
:wink:

[ziggystardust]

is there anyone that have bought a working clone ?

[rapidlocksmiths]

not orv that i know of

[Cardiag.ru]

ORV work now good. Opel software work as original, all bug fixed. Renault i test only diagnose. Volvo not tested.

[rapidlocksmiths]

you say it now works as good as original ? yet no one i know that has one can get it to work reliably at all , even the chinese admit it is not that good a tool , so id be surprised if as good as the original.

for the same price as orv clone you can buy cryptoworks original software and cables , with updates and support so why bother with a poor clone ?

ive seen claims that the vag 8.6 is better than the original , yet havnt met anyone with one who is willing to confirm this .

but if true , then maybe abritus should stop developing new kit for the chinese to copy and bastardise and just quit development .

the problem is that more and more people invest in clones , this means that original kit goes up in price to recoup their investment before cloned , until eventually no one bothers anymore as pointless developing something for the chinese to clone .

clones may be cost effective short term solutions , but long term they screw up the future , then what.

[abdullah60]

dear friends
ORV Commander really fooled people
it's a fact
4-I've sold, but no one did not work
is not nobody happy

[abdullah60]

If you have a good friend with knowledge on this subject
I would ask please
help me
ORV commander gave me a lot of damage
damage to my 2000usd
I ripped
Do not deceive other people
I would like friends not fool anyone
support us not be anyone to deceive
Thank you to everyone
I wish good work

[rapidlocksmiths]

are you saying that you have sold 4 of these orv units and that they all work with no complaints ?

i know a guy with one , he can do the odd vauxhall key and the odd vivaro key , but thats it , mileage correction doesnt work , renault rarely comunicates with the car , and it is very very hit an miss .

if they now have this working then they should update all the poor sods they sold non working units too .

then just maybe someone might post a positive review , though i wont hold my breath .

i know one of the AA key vans and have seen his original , so i have seen both the original and the clone in action , and there is a vast difference between the 2 and the clone doesnt come close to the original , and face it , it will always be playing catch up , so never will come close .

[rapidlocksmiths]

hi

if you have been ripped off to the tune of 2000 usd , i sympathise , but thats the risks when dealing with these people .
for a quarter of that amount you could have bought original zedbull leads , original cryptoworks leads or for renault better still the true code lead and software , all work , all are updated and all have support .

we all moan about the price of original kit , but with the amount of people buying clones , i can understand why it is so high , maybe if we all bought original , the price would not be so high .

i know many say they cant afford original , well in this case should they be offering keys at all ? it could be called reckless plugging unknown and untested kit into a customers car .

[Cardiag.ru]

i know a guy with one , he can do the odd vauxhall key and the odd vivaro key , but thats it , mileage correction doesnt work
Yes, the first clones ORV had many errors. I have the original AVDI and could compare work of both devices. In ORV functions of change mileage in ECU and read/write flash didn't work. After a while that functions have been corrected in a clone, and at present ORV works with Opel absolutely so as well as the original. But not to forget that clones have version 3.5 software, and comparison goes with the original of this version :)

abdullah60 wrote that he has lost 2000usd, think i know decision of his problem :) He needs just ask the chinese seller updating firmware for clones. abdullah60, if you not know how make it, you can ask me in PM.

[Cardiag.ru]

rapidlocksmiths, you wrote:


original programs golf mk6 clone does not
original programs passat pod keys clone does not
original programs most models after 2007 clone does not
original is updated , clone is not
original has support , clone does not
in short original works on all it claims to , clone does not

And I will disagree with your statement.

golf mk6 in clone was appeared earlier than the original has added it.

Original have support... If the answer from them with a week delay you named "support", I can only laughing on that...
I remember, when i have old commander v5, i has problem with mileage change on VW Touareg. Commander read eeprom, but not change mileage. I ask support, send log, and nothing... Then i connect old Diga, and make it in 30sec.
After that i not ask support...

Clone have update, but not with original Abritus software. It's absolutely other software. And that updates is free.
You can download and run software for see what clone can.
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If you see, there present more interesting function which as you told "clone does not" :)
I think you remember original NEC update. And they want money for it. But why? I have in my original AVDI CAN-instument option. NEC dashboards use CAN. Why i must pay for it? Ofcourse you can tell me "it's UDS", but i pay for CAN-instrument, and UDS is CAN too! Same for Golf MM. For get money they invent any additional modules, and we must pay. Abritus always interesting only in money..
And now answer me a question: why I should pay if I can get it free?
You told "save your money", and i trying save it.

Ofcourse, I don't deny that the original is the good device, I have it. But I think Abritus should change the relation to old users. Money should overwork not on an inventing of additional modules for old clients, they should overwork on sale of devices to new users.

[ziggystardust]

that ORV-commander work as Cardiag.ru say's strange that i only see people complaining about it , hmmmm

[obd2099]

Yes, the first clones ORV had many errors. I have the original AVDI and could compare work of both devices. In ORV functions of change mileage in ECU and read/write flash didn't work. After a while that functions have been corrected in a clone, and at present ORV works with Opel absolutely so as well as the original. But not to forget that clones have version 3.5 software, and comparison goes with the original of this version :)

abdullah60 wrote that he has lost 2000usd, think i know decision of his problem :) He needs just ask the chinese seller updating firmware for clones. abdullah60, if you not know how make it, you can ask me in PM.

hallo,cardiag ru,can you give more details about this china ORV commander?
how to change KM and programmer keys?

[mishu_b]

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hi guys,

I have one ORV Commander clone and yesterday I discovered that it does not work - does not connect to the PC.

What can I do?

many thanks for your support!

atb

[mishu_b]

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this is the message what I get when I'm trying to connect to the tool:

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=86468&stc=1&d=1319994605

[Cardiag.ru]

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this is the message what I get when I'm trying to connect to the tool:


Send it back to China for repair.

[mishu_b]

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the seller don't want to repair.
could you please where I have to start to look for fix this issue.

many thanks

[znakedwrx]

Thats the story with China sellers & tools.

If you are doing business and that tool is gonna pay your bills then get original.

Tool is not expensive, you just need to charge your customers more!

Deal is just matter of preception :)
Learn how to sell your services!

[OPC]

What do you think about OVR 4 in 1 ?
Better than OVR 3 in 1?

[aceton]

where to buy in China ?

[sumo.974]

How to walk its ?RV Commander 3 and 1 in 4 and 1?

[technodiag]

thank you all for information ..........