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rsibiza
6th May, 2011, 02:31 PM
Here i wanna post some result from trying flash EDC17cp14 ECU from Golf VI 143 CR.


First of all tryd reading by OBD with X17 module,no succes,so i tryed MPPS...and worked..but i did not try write,but amt tells the EDC17cp14 could be wrote and CHKSM is done while writing.

Anyway,for MPPS i have no support as its crackedone...so return to official interface incl support.

I have to read this unit by BOOTLOADER...will be unmount ecu from car,jailbreak the ECU..as it has some nice crews without head..so an little disc cutter is needet to make them accesible to screw out.

Open ECU,connect Bootloader as described..search boot pin...

The Bootpin can be soldered or pointed like with BDM support like i did....

Reading and writing takes some 20-30minutes each action..

Whit the CHKSM ther are actually some little problems concerning VAG edc17..from total 10 pc i have and tryed,only 1 PC allow me correct the checksum vag edc17..

But i m pretty sure this problem will also be solved soon..

Here some pics about...

rsibiza
6th May, 2011, 02:32 PM
some more pics...:top:

rsibiza
6th May, 2011, 02:34 PM
and some more....:top:

rsibiza
6th May, 2011, 02:35 PM
Thats all....

Easy as Hellooo:beer:


Golf VI 143 CR after mod....runs like Hellllllll:aetsch:

Overtune
6th May, 2011, 11:48 PM
Nice...:top:

elosomaloso
7th May, 2011, 03:15 AM
:party:

Thanks

viki300
7th May, 2011, 02:42 PM
Hi is that boot pin what you are using home made or did you buy it some where im been looking same kind of pin

grinovsky
7th May, 2011, 04:49 PM
hi rsibiza (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/90974-rsibiza/)
please share the dump
and congradulation :canabis:

rsibiza
7th May, 2011, 06:23 PM
Hi is that boot pin what you are using home made or did you buy it some where im been looking same kind of pin

Homemadefrom wreckige pcb & springcontact from old no more needet bdm adapter.

rsibiza
7th May, 2011, 06:24 PM
hi rsibiza (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/90974-rsibiza/)
please share the dump
and congradulation :canabis:


Ori dump from golf?

grinovsky
7th May, 2011, 08:57 PM
yes,please,original for golf VI
i want to play with this dump

viki300
11th May, 2011, 07:38 AM
Hi have you been using X17 to bmw EDC17 with TC1766 like BMW318d or 118d im having issues with that just wondering if some other has problem with these ecus

rsibiza
11th May, 2011, 12:14 PM
Hi have you been using X17 to bmw EDC17 with TC1766 like BMW318d or 118d im having issues with that just wondering if some other has problem with these ecus

Read out should be 1,5 mb,mee to i tought it should be 2,0mb
Anyway,Checksum is not recognised and file sent to support.

BMW 118D EDC17 TC1766

They told me 1.5 is normal size,but waiting for answer from checksum not recognised.

viki300
11th May, 2011, 02:14 PM
Read out should be 1,5 mb,mee to i tought it should be 2,0mb
Anyway,Checksum is not recognised and file sent to support.

BMW 118D EDC17 TC1766

They told me 1.5 is normal size,but waiting for answer from checksum not recognised.
good to know that im not only one cos they say that it works perfectly

alfy
11th May, 2011, 07:53 PM
good to know that im not only one cos they say that it works perfectly

I read 320d 2010 without problems, 2mb file with X17.
But I have problems with one 320d 2008 EDC17, that in BMW made sw update and no more read from OBD.

tuhn
11th May, 2011, 10:05 PM
I read 320d 2010 without problems, 2mb file with X17.
But I have problems with one 320d 2008 EDC17, that in BMW made sw update and no more read from OBD.


was your bmw maybee edc16?

bazare
11th May, 2011, 10:33 PM
I have edc17 tc1766 from BMW on table to test my new x17. I have connected 1k resistor to bootpin and the resistor to ground of breakbox 1. Then connected everything as in manual. Ignition to +12V. Problem is I get an error about communication error all the time. Maybe ecu is defective? Boot pin should be connected all the time right?

viki300
12th May, 2011, 01:59 PM
I have edc17 tc1766 from BMW on table to test my new x17. I have connected 1k resistor to bootpin and the resistor to ground of breakbox 1. Then connected everything as in manual. Ignition to +12V. Problem is I get an error about communication error all the time. Maybe ecu is defective? Boot pin should be connected all the time right?
Hi i got excatly a same problem and couldnt read ECU happens two different ecu but common thing is that they are EDC17C06 with TC1766 did it id if you selected Bmw EDC17C06 and change + and - wires to 1/2 pin insted of 5/6

viki300
12th May, 2011, 03:35 PM
I read 320d 2010 without problems, 2mb file with X17.
But I have problems with one 320d 2008 EDC17, that in BMW made sw update and no more read from OBD.
Hi that happend to me for 318d after update

alfy
12th May, 2011, 05:14 PM
was your bmw maybee edc16?

No, no EDC17... 320d 177hp.

alfy
12th May, 2011, 05:15 PM
Hi that happend to me for 318d after update

Yes, they update with "antitunig" software!

rsibiza
13th May, 2011, 12:22 PM
My 118d file was send back to me from support,checksum corrected..tomorow ill test on car;)

codexploid
4th June, 2011, 01:17 PM
Hi rsibiza

did you test it on the car ?

rsibiza
4th June, 2011, 03:57 PM
Hi rsibiza

did you test it on the car ?








No,did no test.

Made 2 mods,wrote into ecu,and car just runs very fine.

Customer very happy with it s invest:)

rappttor
4th June, 2011, 05:27 PM
and thats the begining of the end regarding edc17.
give it one year, and this will not be a problem anymore.

rsibiza
4th June, 2011, 06:33 PM
and thats the begining of the end regarding edc17.
give it one year, and this will not be a problem anymore.

The only edc17 "antituning" i actually know are some edc17cp14 in audi Q5 A5...etc..

I think "antituning" will be no problem in 6-9 month :)

cartechnics
1st July, 2011, 06:47 AM
hello
anyone have update firmware for x17 module ?
i am in 3.1
in the server 3.9 i search update to 3.9
thanks in advance

rsibiza
1st July, 2011, 12:09 PM
hello
anyone have update firmware for x17 module ?
i am in 3.1
in the server 3.9 i search update to 3.9
thanks in advance


Yes,i run 3.12 updatable by magpro2 helpserver ;)

rsibiza
1st July, 2011, 12:19 PM
Hi, i actually updated my Bootpin adapter for BDM with some LED's..so i see very clear and clean if i contact Bootpin or not:top:

viki300
1st July, 2011, 05:56 PM
Hi are you just feeding 12V to led and when grounded it will lite up or how?

rsibiza
1st July, 2011, 06:19 PM
Hi are you just feeding 12V to led and when grounded it will lite up or how?


Yep,i just feed with 12V from X17,on pcb i have put an resistor before the Led's and Ground also from X17.

GND from X17 without resistor to Led,and with 1k resistor to BootPin:top:

rsibiza
1st July, 2011, 06:36 PM
Referring to lot PM an Emails of non working,or supposing non working X17,here some little explaintions,which could be easily missunderstood...


Bootpin: needs to be solderd to Bootpad or using spring needle.
Once all is wired up,connected X17 is launched test if your X17 Module is corectly connected(com1-4),Check in Setup X-17 sw if FW is shown and correct one.
Push connect....Data....X17 will show VIN HW SW etc..
Start reading...while reading you will be asked!TO SWITCH OFF/ON ignition (only ignition as example EDC17U01) pin 5 12V pin87 ignition,so need switch off/on) and hit enter...X17 sw will ask while reading 2-3 times,,also in reading..until it's not switched off-on..it will still ask,and and not read or writen any more byte...
Hope this can help some poeple:top:

My Bootloader V2 has just arrived now:eviltongue:

viki300
1st July, 2011, 06:57 PM
Ok and thanks i have to try that one also by the way i should get new x17 bridy soon cos older one didnt work with those tricores but have to say that magpro2 team did handle the case like pros do

rsibiza
1st July, 2011, 07:18 PM
Ok and thanks i have to try that one also by the way i should get new x17 bridy soon cos older one didnt work with those tricores but have to say that magpro2 team did handle the case like pros do

Since 5 years they handle m that way;)

Theyr support is very good,sometimes little slow in shipping,but never to claim about.

When something didnt work as it should,or technical support..whatever i needet,i became...

Big thanks to theyr support:)

autofan1965
3rd July, 2011, 12:02 AM
Referring to lot PM an Emails of non working,or supposing non working X17,here some little explaintions,which could be easily missunderstood...


Bootpin: needs to be solderd to Bootpad or using spring needle.
Once all is wired up,connected X17 is launched test if your X17 Module is corectly connected(com1-4),Check in Setup X-17 sw if FW is shown and correct one.
Push connect....Data....X17 will show VIN HW SW etc..
Start reading...while reading you will be asked!TO SWITCH OFF/ON ignition (only ignition as example EDC17U01) pin 5 12V pin87 ignition,so need switch off/on) and hit enter...X17 sw will ask while reading 2-3 times,,also in reading..until it's not switched off-on..it will still ask,and and not read or writen any more byte...
Hope this can help some poeple:top:

My Bootloader V2 has just arrived now:eviltongue:

I think You mean Breakbox not Bootloader v2. At this point is bug in software and You need in X17 still have selected Breakbox v1 and make power manually. Only better thing now is that You need solder 1 wire and choose for boot on breakbox Boot:1K

viki300
10th July, 2011, 03:02 PM
Hi i got my new X17 and now it works nicely with tricores and i use spring loaded pogo pin to boot pin so no need to solder much safer how ever now i got issues with new Mb sprinter 319CDi CP6.14 it wont read correct but i guess it will after while when magpro2 team will figured out whats wrong

rsibiza
10th July, 2011, 07:22 PM
Hi i got my new X17 and now it works nicely with tricores and i use spring loaded pogo pin to boot pin so no need to solder much safer how ever now i got issues with new Mb sprinter 319CDi CP6.14 it wont read correct but i guess it will after while when magpro2 team will figured out whats wrong


Did u follow the correct off-on sequence ignition before hit enter?

J_amb_o
10th July, 2011, 10:23 PM
RSIbiza,

did Swiftec find your EDC17 maps automatically, or did you buy a Mappack from them?

rsibiza
11th July, 2011, 03:46 AM
RSIbiza,

did Swiftec find your EDC17 maps automatically, or did you buy a Mappack from them?

It s like winols,for bosch EDC17 ecus it autodetects almost most maps,u need know what they are,same as winols it doesnt sho w all maps,or display them correctly...

But almost very complete and usefull sw:) happy to have it.

viki300
11th July, 2011, 10:38 AM
Did u follow the correct off-on sequence ignition before hit enter?
Hi and yes i did do as instructions says but still internal flash i cannot read external and eprom read out was ok

rego88
14th July, 2011, 05:06 PM
congratulations rsibiza ;)

rsibiza
15th July, 2011, 08:31 AM
Yesterday,had little free time,to try little around in X17 and EDC17 U01 from seat ibiza 1.9 CR,and new breakbox 2.0

Seems the problem about auto aliment ecu from breakbox still have some bug:( doesnt work automatically off-on)

Using ecu power button manually works fine;) speed reading is improoved little:)

And i wanted to know how sure it will recover an ecu which faild in write,so i cut powerline to ecu @56% write internal flash

Retry DATA...ecu not found...power of ecu,x17 closed sw.

Reopen all... Data ... Got data ...write flash....choosen file wrote back into internal flash...and ecu back life again;)

100% good work..

cartechnics
16th July, 2011, 12:23 PM
hello
i have official x17 and my firmware is 3.1
i want update in 4.0
please help me

cartechnics
16th July, 2011, 12:24 PM
i dont want pay 500***8364; fot update

rsibiza
16th July, 2011, 12:36 PM
i dont want pay 500***8364; fot update

Go to filli Galetto or cmd and pay 1000? annual fee for support and update,so u dont need pay !!400 ? for magpro support...

rsibiza
16th July, 2011, 01:09 PM
If u wanna sell it,i may be interested in it ;)

cartechnics
16th July, 2011, 01:15 PM
no i dont want sell i just run with a new software i have sell at a friend he broken BMW 320 EDC17
and BMW repair for 2000***8364;
i have buy it and i want to update
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8083/sansregw.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/228/sansregw.jpg/)

cartechnics
16th July, 2011, 01:16 PM
this is my software
and i search software v4 only

cartechnics
16th July, 2011, 01:19 PM
and i don't work with 1.6 TDI a friend have polo 1.6TDI 2010 and dont work
what is NO RSA .???

cartechnics
16th July, 2011, 01:19 PM
my pc version is 3.10 and my interface is in 4.0 i dont understand can you explain ??

bazare
16th July, 2011, 02:21 PM
NO RSA = car will not start after tuning

cartechnics
16th July, 2011, 02:38 PM
ok thanks a lot guy
i have software in 3.5

rsibiza
16th July, 2011, 06:40 PM
and i don't work with 1.6 TDI a friend have polo 1.6TDI 2010 and dont work
what is NO RSA .???

RSA is new signature of ecu files,like checksum...

U can write any ori file from same hw/sw in this ecu,but no mod file..no different hw/sw nr..actually... :(

cartechnics
17th July, 2011, 11:40 AM
everyone can post the 3.9 or 4.0 setup here please ? link?
please thanks a lot
for number ID is not a problem i want just the setup

gezame
20th July, 2011, 12:28 AM
hi rsibiza (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/90974-rsibiza/)
please share the dump
and congradulation :canabis:


Hi
Golf VI 2.0 tdi CR 81kw (120cv), edc17cp14.
Read & write in obd with cmdflash the 03-2010.
the car at the time, date of manufacture a month earlier (02-2010).
All ok.
Antituning.........
Same cases with bmw 120 edc17cp02 read & write in obd with cmdflash the 24-02-2009, car date manufacturee 01-2009.
All ok.
etc, etc.
Antituning.............
many cases like these, only cars that can be read but not write by OBD, Skoda Octavia 170cv edc17cp14 year 2008.
Strangle rigth.......
B.R.

fargulkim
27th July, 2011, 08:45 PM
rsibiza, are you using original magpro or clone?

bazare
27th July, 2011, 09:54 PM
like all the good guys in the business he is using genuine tools.

rsibiza
28th July, 2011, 09:27 AM
Hi
Golf VI 2.0 tdi CR 81kw (120cv), edc17cp14.
Read & write in obd with cmdflash the 03-2010.
the car at the time, date of manufacture a month earlier (02-2010).
All ok.
Antituning.........
Same cases with bmw 120 edc17cp02 read & write in obd with cmdflash the 24-02-2009, car date manufacturee 01-2009.
All ok.
etc, etc.
Antituning.............
many cases like these, only cars that can be read but not write by OBD, Skoda Octavia 170cv edc17cp14 year 2008.
Strangle rigth.......
B.R.

Friend of me,also using genuine cmd flasher,can read fine most edc17,just like me..and same like me have troubles,or lets say little message...to write this ecu,need boot ecu...so no easy write by OBD.

rsibiza
28th July, 2011, 09:32 AM
rsibiza, are you using original magpro or clone?

Who will use clones for latest ecus? And mess up with locked ecu on customer cars,which have more than 3 years warranty on..

I m not going to pay for customer ecu,and like having support..

Best regards.

gezame
29th July, 2011, 02:01 AM
Friend of me,also using genuine cmd flasher,can read fine most edc17,just like me..and same like me have troubles,or lets say little message...to write this ecu,need boot ecu...so no easy write by OBD.

Hi
Yes, rigth friend.
Although the cases I have given, are in theory ECU Tricore protected, and yet I could write for OBD with original CMDflash without any problem, cars are still working on today.
strange.........;)
B.R.

rappttor
29th July, 2011, 07:36 AM
maybe you have an R2D2 CMD FLSH :)


ps:kidding

gezame
30th July, 2011, 12:30 AM
Or may cmd, experiment with some customers ......;)

rappttor
7th August, 2011, 09:56 AM
:D
that's a verry interesting information indeed.
maybe will not take so long though to see protected tricore on obd...

bazare
7th August, 2011, 11:40 AM
x17 can flash edc17 cp04 and cp14 by OBD no problem. these ecu's have only checksum and no RSA. It's the same in edc17c19 ... opel and early edc17 BMW, can be flashed by OBD because no RSA. The real breakthrough would be RSA over OBD.

grinovsky
7th August, 2011, 12:51 PM
Or may cmd, experiment with some customers ......;)
WE CAN DO THIS FOR THIS GOLF6:bandit:
http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/16/03/79/30/magici11.gif

gezame
22nd August, 2011, 01:18 AM
Hi
You have cmdflash original?
Cmdflash, only write with internet conexion in edc17 and like.
Regards.

rsibiza
22nd August, 2011, 05:05 PM
x17 can flash edc17 cp04 and cp14 by OBD no problem. these ecu's have only checksum and no RSA. It's the same in edc17c19 ... opel and early edc17 BMW, can be flashed by OBD because no RSA. The real breakthrough would be RSA over OBD.

I did never try any edc17 by obd,only by boot..

1 golf gti i tryed by obd,read was fine 2.0 mb file,modified it...but in writing things go wrong...error message and nothing..

Car starts,as X17 doesnt erase flash content before write can be done...

So i tryed to write in boot,but wrong file size.

So all again,read by boot,mod write by boot ... All ok...

To save my time,i use boot for the moment hoping one of the next updates will fix this.

Best regards. Rs