Professional Tuned File Request CLK270 CDI

[Mario32]

Hi,

Is it possible that one of the experts in this field can make me a good tuned file.

Thanks in Advance.

[grinovsky]

yes;but must modifed more than 120 maps to make a good tuned file

[monitel_service]

yes is posibil with 117 maps file

[bazare]

a good tune doesn't mean to modify all possible maps, but to modifiy those maps who makes a difference in a safe way. I am sick of seeing files with 5-10% on calibration-injectors opening time maps. Some tuners doesn't even know what they are moding and why. Mate if you want a good remap ask someone who can really do it and pay for it. It's the difference between a running car and a running-badly car

[coolis]

You can get max power stock turbo and good soft about 235hp and 550nm, whitout smoke.
When you change examble 320cdi turbos and 3bar map you can get over 250-270hp and over 600nm.. If your AT is good condition.

edit. that all comes normal calibriation-injection time...

Coolis.

[Autronic]

Hi,

Is it possible that one of the experts in this field can make me a good tuned file.

Thanks in Advance.

Hi m8!!!

Do you still need it??

Regards
Fab:goodnight:

[Mario32]

Hi m8!!!

Do you still need it??

Regards
Fab:goodnight:


Yes I still need it.

Thanks in Advance.

[grinovsky]

Yes I still need it.

Thanks in Advance.
did you speak about remap this:hmmmm2:

[Mario32]

did you speak about remap this:hmmmm2:

Yes it is exactly that model in the picture.

Thanks in Advance.

[coolis]

That engine, about 10 map pack you have to change and couple limiter then you get about 235hp if you don?t find these limiter you get out about 200hp..

very simple EDC15c6...

Coolis

[grinovsky]

mmmmm but the max torque limiter is set in original to 765nm so we have to increase this value!!!to get 235hp!!!

[filecloud]

mmmmm but the max torque limiter is set in original to 765nm so we have to increase this value!!!to get 235hp!!!
EDC15C6 does not calculate in Nm. What you read there is fuel in mg/st. 765Nm is the value of an actual VAG 4.2tdi edc17 (800Nm) :-)
This here is 76,5mg/st
greetings,
filecloud

[grinovsky]

oh,in edc15c6 they have changed the unite of torque too!!!

[coolis]

Normally soft mod (200hp and 400nm) you can get 80mg/st, but evrything is calculated 100mg/st..
But you have solved how you can get request 100mg/st (normally max request is 80mg/st) and then you have find limiter.... what limited that 8?mg/st :) In this kind car (270cdi)

When you get 100mg/st, you have to calculate AFR and you have to get more boost..
And next make new linearisation map your 3bar map sensor... (originally 2.5bar)..and..and..

Coolis

[grinovsky]

before write all this numbers,try to analyse the dump and tel me why this car lost the power
there are one reason,i let you search

[coolis]

before write all this numbers,try to analyse the dump and tel me why this car lost the power
there are one reason,i let you search

You must joking me...
Originally this car is 170hp and 400nm, I really don?t now where you find this 765nm.. how increase power.

I have many dynotest this kind engine , normally there is about 170hp and 420nm, good remap 235hp and 550nm and on my friends car is now 280hp and over 600nm, but he has amg injectors..and bigger turbos..

Mercedes Edc15 family calculated evrything mg/st nothing else..

[grinovsky]

1-originaly this car is 170CV and not 170hp
CV means cheveaux this in french language in anglish is horses
2-i found 765 newtonmetre in the dump
is it so hard for you to find it?or i have to give you adresse?go to torque limiter and read the value,,easy
all the other numbers: i don't anderstand ;so hard for me
from 170hp to 235hp your are einstein

[grinovsky]

try to anderstand the difference betwen hp and cv
then try to anderstand how make a good remap

[grinovsky]

this car have also an automatic gearbox
so don't forget to take this information in your head when you will modify the torque limiter
very important

[filecloud]

Hihi 765Nm.
The formula to convert Nm in kW is well known:
P = (M*n)/9550
The torque curve shows maximum at 2600rpm. So the car should have power of 283hp at 2600rpm with this calculation. Or with 571 at 4400 it should have 357hp stock

Mate. Think twice befor you all take for granted what the crappy italian drivers show. This diesel would have the same torque like a tuned RS6 5.2 V10 biturbo!
Or look at the file from an AMG C30 diesel. This goes to real 99mg. If you take this as 990Nm the car would be able to keep up with a bugatti veyron. Very unlikely don't you think?
greetings,
filecloud

[grinovsky]

i am sure that you are a professionnel in destroy engines

[grinovsky]

this is one of torques limiters maps
what is the max?

[P2XA]

I am not a professional in chiptunning but even I can see that grinovsky rights.

[filecloud]

i am sure that you are a professionnel in destroy engines

Me? Not for the last 20 years i work in this job, sorry :-)
Need a dam to be convinced? I marked it in red.

/begin CHARACTERISTIC
mrwBDBN_KL "Drehmomentbegrenzung (normal) M_E = f(N)"
CURVE 0x163A8 MSA15_KL118 0 MM3 0.000000 100.000000
/begin AXIS_DESCR
STD_AXIS dzmNmit N 19 0.000000 6000.000000
EXTENDED_LIMITS 0.000000 32767.000000
/end AXIS_DESCR
/begin IF_DATA ASAP1B_ETK
DP_BLOB 0x163A8 0x50
/end IF_DATA
EXTENDED_LIMITS -327.680000 327.670000
/end CHARACTERISTIC

It is calculated in cubic milliliters to be exact. Corrected by the density of fuel with 0,75kg/l at 15?C to be very accurate
In Winols i can write every formula i like. This is no proof.
But i leave you all in your dreams that a 2.7 cdi has the same torque like a tuned RS6
Good night

[P2XA]

grinovsky FOREWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!>...................................

[grinovsky]

Me? Not for the last 20 years i work in this job, sorry :-)
Need a dam to be convinced? I marked it in red.

/begin CHARACTERISTIC
mrwBDBN_KL "Drehmomentbegrenzung (normal) M_E = f(N)"
CURVE 0x163A8 MSA15_KL118 0 MM3 0.000000 100.000000
/begin AXIS_DESCR
STD_AXIS dzmNmit N 19 0.000000 6000.000000
EXTENDED_LIMITS 0.000000 32767.000000
/end AXIS_DESCR
/begin IF_DATA ASAP1B_ETK
DP_BLOB 0x163A8 0x50
/end IF_DATA
EXTENDED_LIMITS -327.680000 327.670000
/end CHARACTERISTIC

It is calculated in cubic milliliters to be exact. Corrected by the density of fuel with 0,75kg/l at 15?C to be very accurate
In Winols i can write every formula i like. This is no proof.
But i leave you all in your dreams that a 2.7 cdi has the same torque like a tuned RS6
Good night
ok
i will make a chiptuning dump for this car
and you too
and give Mario32 the 2 dumps ,he flash the ecu ,and try the car to find who is best:celtictop:

[grinovsky]

there is a time for politic and there is a time for action

[grinovsky]

i am sure 1000% that with your dump it will give a big black smok and mario32 will have to clean the rear of car every day
NB:we change the PW of dumps ;and i want to see in your dump the famous 100mg that you inject

[grinovsky]

i am waiting filecloud:eating::champions:

[filecloud]

i am sure 1000% that with your dump it will give a big black smok and mario32 will have to clean the rear of car every day
NB:we change the PW of dumps ;and i want to see in your dump the famous 100mg that you inject

Sorry, you miss the point
It is not about a competition who is better here. Every experienced tuner can draw a good tuning even without knowing the factors.
I just showed you the correct calculation to operate in real values. Take the info or leave it. I do not care.
And to do an extreme test on a members car is not a very good idea, don't you think? This is childish
Go make your tuning for Mario. I am shure it will be fine. I also do not care.
In the meantime i release here for the public and for everyone to see (and without password) the original AMG C30 R5 file with 99mg stock and almost for the same type of ecu from a BMW E39 30d a full damos + hex + function description.
If you want to know who i am write me an email and i will be shure you will calm down again.
I think this thread needs no further comment.

[grinovsky]

with the original AMG C30 R5 dump is impossible for this car to injectct 99mg/c of gazole
the max that can inject this engine is 85mg/c not more
it's impossible Mr:filecloud (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/225557-filecloud/) that the AFR is 1300mg/c at 2000rpm ;simply impossible;

[filecloud]

with the original AMG C30 R5 dump is impossible for this car to injectct 99mg/c of gazole
the max that can inject this engine is 85mg/c not more
it's impossible Mr:filecloud (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/225557-filecloud/) that the AFR is 1300mg/c at 2000rpm ;simply impossible;


:-) Caught you on the fly ;-) Now you are talking of mg also.
Good that we agree on this point now.
Look again my friend. I know exactly where you are looking now. But this is the drivers wish for cruise control max. This is limited to 85mg. The manual drivers wish map is the one after this. And there the scaling goes up to 100mg.
The torque limiter map reads 99mg when condition engine water temp is 105?C and rpm is 2200rpm. 8x22 map.
The smoke map (here calculated by rpm and air mass instead of intake pressure) goes even slightly higher to 103mg at 2200rpm. 16x20 map.
Your concerns about AFR are understandable but do not forget that the C30 is a bigger bore and has 3.0l engine size with 5 cylinders. The car runs with 1.52bar boost stock while the 270cdi only makes 1.25 max. The p*V/T = constant equation teaches us that this additional boost is good for an airmass of 41% more compared with the c270cdi.
Finally the car makes 231hp stock compared with 163hp of the 270cdi. So calculate yourself the additional ammount of fuel it needs to burn to make this +60hp without smoking. Find your value at 3800-4000rpm in the 8x22map.
If i can help you with more information you are welcome. That is what the forum is made for. Not for competition or selling files.
greetings,
filecloud

[del635]

filecloud would you mind a few pms about the edc15c6?

[filecloud]

filecloud would you mind a few pms about the edc15c6?
Hello
If you are a hobbist you are welcome. If you are a professional tuner like me i would like to know who i am talking to first. I hope you understand.
greetings,
filecloud

[grinovsky]

dear filcloude how make you anderstand that with the original it's impossible that this engine can inject 100mg/c at 2000rpm
see the mod dump where it will be able for this engine to inject100mg/c
NB:it's not the only map that you have to remap it's only an exemple

[filecloud]

dear filcloude how make you anderstand that with the original it's impossible that this engine can inject 100mg/c at 2000rpm
see the mod dump where it will be able for this engine to inject100mg/c
NB:it's not the only map that you have to remap it's only an exemple
I do not agree. This map already enables 103mg (theoretical) at 2200rpm. All you did is extend it for higher rpm to do more.
Here is the official Press release:
--------------------------------
Paris, 27. September 2002 ***8211; Mit dem C 30 CDI von AMG feiert der bislang sportlichste Diesel von Mercedes seine Weltpremiere auf dem Automobilsalon in Paris (28. September bis 13. Oktober 2002). Vorgestellt wird das j?ngste AMG-Modell in den Karosserie-Varianten Sportcoup?, Limousine und T-Modell.

Druckvoller Antrieb
Mit einem Drei-Liter-Direkteinspritzer-Turbodiesel mit Common-Rail-Technologie leistet der Motor 231 PS bei 3.800 U/min. Sein maximales Drehmoment von 540 Newtonmetern wird zwischen 2.000 und 2.500 U/min erreicht.

F?r einen Diesel sind somit erstaunlich sportliche Fahrleistungen m?glich: Den Spurt von null auf 100 km/h absolviert er in 6,8 Sekunden, als T-Modell braucht er sieben Sekunden. Die H?chstgeschwindigkeit liegt bei 250 km/h, beim T-Modell bei 245 km/h. Trotz dieser Fahrleistungen liegt der durchschnittliche Verbrauch mit 7,6 Liter (Limousine und Sportcoup?) Dieselkraftstoff angenehm niedrig: Das T-Modell verbraucht 7,9 Liter. Dadurch ergibt sich eine m?gliche Reichweite von ?ber 800 Kilometern.
-----------------------------
Mate. This C30 does 540Nm, the c270 only does 400Nm. Can a diesel car produce 35% more torque with only 11% more fuel? Shurely not.
greetings,
filecloud

[jovime]

Wow, what a great discussion... grinovsky, you should know that in all EDC15, except on VAG, torque limiters are in mm3.

I think that should be all on that subject. Once more, leave the professional chiptuning for professionals. Nice to see how people are deactivating DPF, EGR and doing remaps on diesel without knowing the basics of an EDC15...

And dear filecloud, I know who you are, and would not like to argue with you about chiptuning, you're right on all you said, as always.

BR!

[grinovsky]

i know it jovime,belive me i know it

[del635]

Mm3 is 0.84 of mg app., mg seems is a vw thing fwiw :P
Filecloud fully understand mate, would appreciate a little help on my project.

[grinovsky]

yes,the IQ in maps have unite mm3 and not mg/c
the probleme is that this engine have the max air masse 1200kg/h and that's the right unite too for air masse
so,all what you see in map higher then 1200kg/h of air masse,is not used
and finaly,this engine have 6cylindres and not 5cylindre

[grinovsky]

Wow, what a great discussion... grinovsky, you should know that in all EDC15, no matter the version, torque limiters are in mg/stroke.

I think that should be all on that subject. Once more, leave the professional chiptuning for professionals. Nice to see how people are deactivating DPF, EGR and doing remaps on diesel without knowing the basics of an EDC15...

And dear filecloud, I know who you are, and would not like to argue with you about chiptuning, you're right on all you said, as always.

BR!
try to use one username on DKforum

[filecloud]

yes,the IQ in maps have unite mm3 and not mg/c
the probleme is that this engine have the max air masse 1200kg/h and that's the right unite too for air masse
so,all what you see in map higher then 1200kg/h of air masse,is not used
and finaly,this engine have 6cylindres and not 5cylindre

C 30 CDI AMG Limousine, T-Modell und Sportcoup? W/S/CL 203 (http://www.amg-owners-club.de/160.html)
"Die Modellbezeichnung C 30 CDI AMG steht f?r einen neu entwickelten F?nfzylinder-CDI-Motor mit 2950 Kubikzentimeter Hubraum"

I surrender. It is hopeless!
:-)

[cartronics]

i m cartronics,is it auto gear or mecanik ?i ll make file for you

[grinovsky]

IT DEPEND OF YEAR:D

[grinovsky]

i m cartronics,is it auto gear or mecanik ?i ll make file for you
WELLCOME cartronics
it automatic gearbox

[filecloud]

IT DEPEND OF YEAR:D
As is said. It is hopeless.
OM612 = 5 cylinder
OM613 = 6 cylinder
AMG C30 is ONLY OM 612.990 from 09/2002-08/2004

Mercedes-Benz OM 611/OM 612/OM 613 ? Wikipedia (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_OM_611/OM_612/OM_613)

[grinovsky]

he filecloud
last week i have made egr off for this MB
work perfect until today

[grinovsky]

before this i have made a chiptuning for a vito that was tuned by a stupide tuner so it lost all power
after i remap it the customer say:drive perfect
MERCEDES VITO 2200 CDI

[filecloud]

Fine.
CR30-646-C4D9-211WA-110kW-EU4OP-ME-4903x006
But what relation has this 4 cylinder OM646 engine to a 270cdi or AMG C30?

[grinovsky]

BETWEEN THE 2 I HADE MADE THIS
AS ALWAYS: PERFECT

[Mario32]

i m cartronics,is it auto gear or mecanik ?i ll make file for you

Hi Cartronics,

It is automatic gearbox.
The car is in good condition without any complaints.

Thanks in Advance.

[coolis]

AS ALWAYS: PERFECT

I hope guys who buy remap from this guy understand, that he doesn?t understand anything about mercedes ecus..

Egr off that doesnt mean that you change only one map.
You have to do more, then this works fine.. but i don?t think grinov.. understand.. what i mine..

I hope everyybody who pays remap, they get GOOD mod from guys who make new soft..

Coolis

edit. If you use ECM you don?t get good remap.. you have to understand what you are doing..

[grinovsky]

I hope guys who buy remap from this guy understand, that he doesn?t understand anything about mercedes ecus..

Egr off that doesnt mean that you change only one map.
You have to do more, then this works fine.. but i don?t think grinov.. understand.. what i mine..

I hope everyybody who pays remap, they get GOOD mod from guys who make new soft..

Coolis

edit. If you use ECM you don?t get good remap.. you have to understand what you are doing..
YouTube - ‪mein name ist maximus decimus meridius‬‏ (http://youtu.be/R71c1TC7hMs)

[coolis]

YouTube - ***x202a;mein name ist maximus decimus meridius***x202c;‏ (http://youtu.be/R71c1TC7hMs)

I?m sorry but I am so terryfied.. When you understand .. you don?t know anything about mercedes ECUs?s..

[bazare]

My friend Grinovsky, I read this topic from the first day ... and never replied because good chiptuning can't be find in free forums. First you talked about Nm then changed your mind, then you also talk about things you don't understand or at least you don't appear to understand. All respect mate, but don't make mod files for people if you are not 100% sure. Guys here tried to point you in the right way and you are so stubborn and don't want to listen that anybody else might be also right.
The point is that anyone can make a tun file.
Let's see if I can make a "good file" in 2 min

EGR +20% from 1000 RPM max value 12400
DW +20% from 1600 RPM and 50% throttle position
All Duration +10% from 600bar
All turbo maps and turbo limiter +200mBar from 1600RPM and 30mg
Torque limiter +500% from 1500RPM just because I can
Smoke limiter +10% from 1.5bar and +20% from 2bar
Rail +10% from 1500 RPM

Try this recipe ... client will say car drives perfect... In reality the tune is a big S**T

In reality injection is de-calibrated, turbo spikes like hell, car runs on smoke limiter etc ...

Best regards! Try to listen to the others too my friend:)

[grinovsky]

My friend Grinovsky, I read this topic from the first day ... and never replied because good chiptuning can't be find in free forums. First you talked about Nm then changed your mind, then you also talk about things you don't understand or at least you don't appear to understand. All respect mate, but don't make mod files for people if you are not 100% sure. Guys here tried to point you in the right way and you are so stubborn and don't want to listen that anybody else might be also right.
The point is that anyone can make a tun file.
Let's see if I can make a "good file" in 2 min

EGR +20% from 1000 RPM max value 12400
DW +20% from 1600 RPM and 50% throttle position
All Duration +10% from 600bar
All turbo maps and turbo limiter +200mBar from 1600RPM and 30mg
Torque limiter +500% from 1500RPM just because I can
Smoke limiter +10% from 1.5bar and +20% from 2bar
Rail +10% from 1500 RPM

Try this recipe ... client will say car drives perfect... In reality the tune is a big S**T

In reality injection is de-calibrated, turbo spikes like hell, car runs on smoke limiter etc ...

Best regards! Try to listen to the others too my friend:)
you never make one,only one chiptuning fille during all your existance in DK forum,all what you do is speaking about different version of MPPS (i like desolder chips)
WHO NEVER WORK NEVER MAKE MISTAKE (sorry for you)
i don't need lesson or advise from you or from other
if you need a copy of my diplomat i give you one copy

[bazare]

my friend your arrogance exceed your lack of knowledge.
I don't do free remaps ... I do this for a living everyday for a lot of $ and when I don't know something I ASK others and don't pretend to KNOW EVERYTHING ! If you know how to read through my posts you will see I was one of the first guys who had solution for MPPS 3.0.2.37, then for 4.0.1.9 and now for 5.0.1.10. Not sharing it on public is another thing. I also have genuine MPPS so it's not a matter of life and death for me.
I saw a lot of your files on DK. Do you still think that raising EGR map will close it without limp in edc16? Same with DPF ...btw can you DPF a file without ECUSAFE?
I try to keep the discussion friendly but you think you are the king of the world. In fact you aren't. Best regards friend!

[grinovsky]

my teatcher was a doctor on HDI engines(i ca give you his phone number)
when i take an information the source shuld be comfirmed
and not from any one

[bazare]

my friend do you usually avoid questions?
1. do you still think that EGR in EDC16 is closed by raising the whole map? You have posted a lot of these on DK and "helped" a lot.
2. Are you able to disable a DPF in any ECU without ECUSAFE?

I don't care who was your teacher as long as you have this attitude. I can also show you my engineer diploma ... but what's the point?

[grinovsky]

when you show me your engineer diploma i will respect you more,and i will lisen to your advis

[bazare]

Here mate ... just to prove that you are wrong!
engineer diploma 5 years + master diploma 2 years in polytechnic institute

Hope you will respect everyone more now.

password on PM

[rappttor]

just curious if grig has one now i've seen yours :rulez:

ps: i eat 2 paks of popcorn watching this seinfield show...

[grinovsky]

bazare the pw is wrong

[grinovsky]

just curious if grig has one now i've seen yours :rulez:

ps: i eat 2 paks of popcorn watching this seinfield show...
i don't have one diplomat ,i have 4 diplomat
but i will show you the later

[bazare]

my friend ... pswd is very OK double checked. Just to be sure sent another PM and checked again. You still haven't answered my 2 questions, please don't forget that.?
And one more thing ... just so you won't be bored to much ... please explain how PSA edc16 + boot mode work. You wrote about this in another topic.
Hey hey king of the world!

[rappttor]

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8x8

[grinovsky]

the 4th diplomat

[bazare]

From what you have sent me i see you are not an engineer.
It sais you have graduated at DISTANCE some training as a technician in diagnostic.
I am not replying to anything on PM until you answer my questions about moding files. If you are the king of the world I can show you that your arrogance means nothing to me. boot mode in EDC16 ... what a good joke.

Rapptor you are incredible :D

[grinovsky]

my friend ... pswd is very OK double checked. Just to be sure sent another PM and checked again. You still haven't answered my 2 questions, please don't forget that.?
And one more thing ... just so you won't be bored to much ... please explain how PSA edc16 + boot mode work. You wrote about this in another topic.
Hey hey king of the world!
i don't anderstand :engineer diplomat of what?hydrolique!!!
i don't cut any think in my diplomat you can read it ,so clear
for your questions;i don't have to answer of any one,becose idon't want,but be sure,i scaned many ecu on table,not only programmed but scaned too

[Stanton]

And how many of these which you "scan on the table" do you tune properly, with proper feedback from datalogging, as opposed to just posting free on forums?

[grinovsky]

bazare engineer diplomate :D
it's beter to be technicien diagnostic electronic cars then engineers in i don't know what

[bazare]

my friend to be clear I tried to keep it friendly but you think you know to much.

1.You have no ideea how to disable EGR in an EDC16.
2.You don't even know what DPF is ... forget about DPF matrix, single values and others etc ...
3.EDC16 has no boot mode. Never had!

I am an engineer you are not.

i just want to tell to the other guys you are just a beginner who does free tests on their cars.

br!

[rappttor]

you are wrong too, edc16 can be boot moded....with a boothummer

[grinovsky]

:Di think bazare is engineer in water,or may be engeneer in english language;who know?all is possible

[bazare]

getting back to business ... tell us again about the subject of this topic ... 765Nm in this car, Nm torque limiter in EDC15? You are the best technician AT DISTANCE ever!

BTW can you put my EDC16 in boot mode from Algeria? It's pretty distant from my location, I think you can do it! Maybe also EGR OFF because you are very skilled in it!

[grinovsky]

You are the best technician AT DISTANCE ever!
yes,i am the best
when you work for 15years in electronic repair,you can change your domaine work only by learning at distance becose all what you have to learn is how it work ,and thank god for what i am
i don't protect my bisnes mbtuning.ro (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/mbtuning.ro) here
yesterday a freind send me a mod dump of mercedes benz that have payed for 200E from one web site as yours(proffessionnel chiptuning) becose the car wan't start after flashing the ecu
did you know why?because the cks was wrong;and i will not speak about the quality of chiptunig
so,try to anderstand the 1st step in electronic(start by vaccum lampe) and then you can work on chiptuning
beleve me ,it's not the software,or the expensive interface that make succes,the knowledg is the secret of succes

[Stanton]

Lots of lol.

[bazare]

My friend you have no idea how MB - EDC15 works. What are the limits of this specific engine, how it is driven, what single values you should modify etc.
In EDC16 you are also a complete noob, you still think it has boot mode. This mean only one thing ... you NEVER flashed one.

Stop telling me those stupid answers ... I'm not buying it.
You have proved over and over again you have no clue what you are talking about. You probably never heard of a stoechiometric ratio table, or a peak pressure calculus, not to mention ignition advance in petrol cars. You also tune cars on forum but you don't know what a lambda wide sensor does, what is an EGT sensor, or how a car MUST be logged after tuning.

But you are the best ... your winols told you that checksum is wrong and you saved the day.

Best regards my friend!

[grinovsky]

i will send you a stupide question that you will not be able to answer after one year::D
how the flow air metre mesure flow air?

[bazare]

My friend, when I was repairing hot film sensors from MAF (hot film or hot wire cooled by external air comparing with IAT values) you haven't even know they existed. When I was developing repairing kits for old MAFs that show wrong voltage you were posting stupid EGR off files on DK. Stop avoiding my questions and just admit you have no idea how edc15 or edc16 work.

BTW that's the difference between the two of us. When you technicians are asking stupid questions ... we the engineers are answering and try to do so you can understand what we are saying.
When we the engineers are asking simple questions you the technicians have no idea!

[grinovsky]

this answer is wrong:manuflag:

[bazare]

The answer is very Ok but you again are just too stubborn to admit that you have no idea.
Film or wire is heated to a certain temp. ECU see the electrical resistance through the sensor. Resistance is temperature dependent. ECU makes a calculation including IAT and taking in account resistance drop.

My friend here we were discussing how beginner you are in tuning cars not how MAF works.
Maybe I can ask you how you put EDC16 in boot mode now?

[grinovsky]

this answer is wrong too:D
one year;i said one year

[grinovsky]

yes,search on google(copy past)
this is the diference betwen technicien diagnostic electronic engines and engeneer in hydrolique

[bazare]

my friend this is not another answer ... this is the same answer explained in your own words but you still lack the mental capability to understand my answer. You said S**T. You don't even know what is the difference in signal between film and wire.
Again for you level of intelligence ... air flow is measured by the difference between a reference voltage and the voltage required to maintain the hot wire at a certain temperature.

Explain me how you put EDC16 in boot mode. Why don't you answer? You said you are doing a lot of tuning. How do you put EDC16 in boot mode like you said in the other topic?

And stop google-ing about BOOT MODE ... it exists only in your mind.

[darrenhyland]

c'mon guys, lets keep it country here...we all have our forte and we all have our weak areas....lets agree to disagree:playingball:

[grinovsky]

my friend this is not another answer ... this is the same answer explained in your own words but you still lack the mental capability to understand my answer. You said S**T. You don't even know what is the difference in signal between film and wire.
Again for you level of intelligence ... air flow is measured by the difference between a reference voltage and the voltage required to maintain the hot wire at a certain temperature.

Explain me how you put EDC16 in boot mode. Why don't you answer? You said you are doing a lot of tuning. How do you put EDC16 in boot mode like you said in the other topic?

And stop google-ing about BOOT MODE ... it exists only in your mind.
always,wrong answer:D

[bazare]

My friend I am looking all over the forum ... you post a lot of EGR -OFF solution. That's good but only if you know what you are doing. If you say "try this and report" and when it doesn't work you say "buy a new EGR" you are not that smart are you?
That's what you technicians do, try different stupid files on someone else car? Do you even know what you modded there? Or ECUSAFE did all the work?

[grinovsky]

an other wrong answer:aetsch:

[bazare]

OMG I looked on the forum again ... and what do I find. The mighty grinovsky modded turbo +8% on half of the map but he missed the SVBL? Lucky for the poor man that you missed it, because you have no ideea what KKK model is in that car and what is the maximum work pressure.

[grinovsky]

as always,never find the right answer:roflmao:
6 answers and no one right

[filecloud]

Dear DK members.
What started so serious now ends up so sad (or funny)
We must accept that g will never admit that he is wrong or made an error ever. Never in a lifetime.
We talk about internal calculation of mb edc15 and when g finds out he is wrong his brain locks and he swaps over to another topic in shame. Then we show him how the difference between a 5-cylinder and a 6-cylinder car. His brain locks again and he starts posting old cars he has tuned with ecusafe. Then we show him that real switching off egr and dpf is done different to what he does with ecusafe and guess what? His brain locks again and he asks for diploma.
We beat him here, his brain locks again and he starts to ask funny questions about air mass sensors. He does not know the answer himself so he will not recognise the real answer even if it stings him in the eye. And this while we look on the internal construction plans and schematics for bosch air mass sensors in front of us where we see axactly how it works, how it compensates and how it tries to avoid false reading through backflow pulsation.
And he keeps ignoring our questions in hope we might forget we asked them.
It is useless. We could post our cars we have tuned with our businesses for years, we could show him that we tune the same ammount of cars in a day what he might probably see in a year, we could name the succesfull racing teams we support with knowledge and money, we could name our employees which we feed with this knowledge...
Useless! Absolutely useless!
What comes next? Does g want to release photos with dropped pants to compare? Please not. His brain will probaly lock totally then.
Let's end this now please

For gods sake i will admit now that g is the best tuner in the world, the best engineer i have ever talked to. Albert Einstein must be his father and Marie Curie is shurely his mother. All inventions since the industrial revolution come only from Algeria where g lives. g has invented the combustion engine and he has built the first nuclear plant with his own hands. Wherever g is there is the center of gravity and all planets will eternally circle around him
Amen!

[grinovsky]

the NEWS:D:D:D

[darrenhyland]

'g has invented the combustion engine and he has built the first nuclear plant with his own hands. '
better not let the yanks know an algerian has a nuclear plant....surely cause for invasion:D

[ipejasinovic]

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[bazare]

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[grinovsky]

in a flow air metre there are 2 senseors and one hot film
the 2 sensors are temp?rature sensors,in some engine the 1st sensor is use to mesure the air temperature in others engines it can add an other temperature air sensor
now how the flow air metre mesure the flow air
in reality,the flow air metre don't mesure the air flow,but the ecu
the first sensor temperature mesure the T?air ,after that the air passe by the hot film where is come more hot,and the seconde temperature sensore mesure this 2nd T?
so,more the flow air is big and more the difference betwen the 2 T? is less(and this is the principe of work FAM)
the ecu receive the 2 informations of T? air sensors and make the difference(don't speak about modulation from analogique to digital),the result is compared with a map in ecu where the x axi is the value of the difference T? and in Zaxi the value of air flow,
so,if you don't know how FAM work don't show me please how the ECU work:rulez:

[ipejasinovic]

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[bazare]

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:D

quote from BOSCH VAG SSP

"A constant voltage is applied to the heated film or heated
wire. This film or wire is positioned in the air stream or in an air
flow sampling channel and is heated by the electrical current that
the voltage produces. As air flows across it, it cools down. The
heated wire or film is a positive temperature coefficient (ptc) resistor.
This means that it's resistance drops when it's temperature drops.
The drop in resistance allows more current to flow through it in order
to maintain the programmed temperature. This current is changed
to a frequency or a voltage which is sent to the computer and
interpreted as air flow. Adjustments for air temperature and humidity
are taken into consideration since they also affect the temperature
of the heated wire or film."

So stop saying BULL***T

[grinovsky]

other one......

[bazare]

Hmm let's see if you can understand something from this ... I doubt you can even read though.

I dedicated more time to find "tuning" files from you on DK. Do you even know how an engine works? Do you know what smoke limiter is used for? You seem to think that raising smoke limiter by 20% makes you the best tuner ever.

[bazare]

O look ... I found a video that even my 4 years old nephew would understand:

YouTube - ‪Scanning MAF or Mass Air Flow Sensors‬‏

Replay it 7-8-9 times ... maybe you will understand how it works in the end.

[rappttor]

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[bazare]

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[bazare]

Hey grinovsky, after you answer all these questions:


1. How you put edc16 in boot mode which exists only in your mind?
2. In what edc15 toque limiter has Nm output? This one is also your own invention.
3. What is the difference between 5 and 6 cyl engines? In your mind there is no difference.
4. What KKK turbo is in that file where you modded +8% half of turbo map? If you haven't missed the SVBL (which you don't know where it is) turbo would be already broken.
5. Do you know how to disable EGR in EDC16?
6. Do you know how to DPF-OFF any file?
7. If anyone just delete ECUSAFE from your PC do you quit making stupid files on DK?
8. Where are the two T1 and T2 sensors in hot wire MAF?

After you answer all these questions I will try to explain in your own words in such a manner so you can understand with your level of knowledge, the difference between
HFM 4
HFM 5
HFM 6
HFM 7
HFM 8

The last one uses transistor btw not resistances.

[rappttor]

this is a never ending story, dont waste your time trying to make a rectagle rolling, simply because it's not suppose to; every forum has its "brainiac" wich thinks 1+1 always equals 2 :D !
dk is full of bad moded files, made by this type of guys, wich hides their lack of knowledge and ignorance behind a huge arrogance, and just because they copy paste a few maps they pretend knowing the way to do. this area requires constant study and testing, and eaven so you will have blank/weak area, just because you cannot find the time to fill theme all up, or simply you cant and this is a fact!

[grinovsky]

yes, that's true,this is a never ending story
did you know why?
becose Mr:bazare that have unpload 0 chiptuning dump on DKforum during all his existance want teach Mr:grinovsky who had upload more that 100 chiptuning dump that was used in mumbers cars or customers numbers cars and he pretend to be an expert
never i will accept advis from one guy like this
it is a honnor form me to be teached by others members who have prouved there existance by helping the others mumbers like lupo,or others ,
but never,from some one that have never send 1 dump
i am not perfect,i make mistakes like any human,but i don't want to be helped by some one who don't help the others

[grinovsky]

and this is the answer how to make edc16 in boot mod
take your edc16 from the car,put it on table and make this connections to acces to chips ecu in boot mode
to scan the ecu in boot mode (like i do with the universal cable of kts)it depend on the protocole that use to communicate
some ecu use some protocole that it's impossible to make a scan on boot mode it shuld be in car to be scaned

[bazare]

What you are doing with 10-20% modding is not chiptuning is cheap-tuning. You don't do mistakes my friend, in reality you have NO IDEA what you do. You never logged a car in your life if you add 8% in half of turbo map. You want to argue with me in chiptuning domain? Be my guest. I uploaded zero files here? Of course ... I do chiptuning for $. You want to learn something? Pay me and I will teach you how not to decalibrate injection and how to prevent turbo spike-ing.

Upload here 10 of your moded files from the forum and I will prove all 10 are BAD!

BTW your answer about boot mode is more than comedy. You never heard about what BOOT mode is. BDM is a different thing my friend ... a thing you have no idea what it does. Please give us more stupid answers :P

[grinovsky]

this is a boot mode for edu 16 ;may be in your stupide web site( www.mbtuning.ro (http://www.mbtuning.ro/))with others agricultures engineers have an others way :roflmao:

[filecloud]

and this is the answer how to make edc16 in boot mod
take your edc16 from the car,put it on table and make this connections to acces to chips ecu in boot mode
to scan the ecu in boot mode (like i do with the universal cable of kts)it depend on the protocole that use to communicate
some ecu use some protocole that it's impossible to make a scan on boot mode it shuld be in car to be scaned

Wrong answer, sorry
Are you trying to fool us? This is no bootmode. This is a normal access through the Background Debugging Mode special Port. We all know this as BDM.
A bootmode is acessed through triggering the internal processor with a special wakeup, writing a bootloader communication code in(or acess the one it may have in ROM) and bring the ecu to talk to a K-Line or CAN Device.
Bosch/Siemens/Infineon processors support bootmode, Motorola processors support only BDM.
greetings
filecloud

[grinovsky]

:roflmao:i use only xprogm with edc16 and belive me work perfect
(don't need any others informations )

[filecloud]

in a flow air metre there are 2 senseors and one hot film
the 2 sensors are temp?rature sensors,in some engine the 1st sensor is use to mesure the air temperature in others engines it can add an other temperature air sensor
now how the flow air metre mesure the flow air
in reality,the flow air metre don't mesure the air flow,but the ecu
the first sensor temperature mesure the T?air ,after that the air passe by the hot film where is come more hot,and the seconde temperature sensore mesure this 2nd T?
so,more the flow air is big and more the difference betwen the 2 T? is less(and this is the principe of work FAM)
the ecu receive the 2 informations of T? air sensors and make the difference(don't speak about modulation from analogique to digital),the result is compared with a map in ecu where the x axi is the value of the difference T? and in Zaxi the value of air flow,
so,if you don't know how FAM work don't show me please how the ECU work:rulez:

Wrong explanation, sorry for you grinovsky!
bazarre is fully right
- Only 1 signal line goes to the ecu, not two!
- The ecu does not read resistance, it reads voltage!
- The compare function is done in the airmass, not in the ecu!
- The air mass sensor does not simply work with 2 NTC. In fact it has 8!
- The principle is the one of a double wheatstone measuring bridge which are electronically compared and compensated. One works from reference voltage one is driven from Vpp like the heating element.
Attached the schematics of the function principle of a bosch hotfilm air mass sensor. The NTC on top is the normal IAT sensor and otional and not present on all air mass elements. So you may find sensors with only 4 pins like on Porsche 993 turbo where the sensor is external.
greetings,
filecloud

[Stanton]

Bazare, you cant argue with an idiot, he will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.

Grinovsky, do you not think your screendump in the attachment you posted above is named "BDM100.pdf" for a reason?
This is what you are describing is BDM, not boot-mode.

[grinovsky]

Bazare, you cant argue with an idiot, he will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.

Grinovsky, do you not think your screendump in the attachment you posted above is named "BDM100.pdf" for a reason?
This is what you are describing is BDM, not boot-mode.
all the agricultors engineers are igree with you:roflmao:

[Stanton]

Do it again....
In English please.

[Stanton]

when you work for 15years in electronic repair

Do you repair TV's or radios? Which is your speciality?

[filecloud]

:roflmao:i use only xprogm with edc16 and belive me work perfect
(don't need any others informations )

I know that you are ignorant and you will not learn.
The information is NOT for you. I do not care.
It is for the rest of the forum so they can make their own opinion!
greetings,
filecloud

[grinovsky]

Do you repair TV's or radios? Which is your speciality?
yes,i repair tv and radio ,and satelite receiver without any probleme
oh,my dear,how many times i have to say you that i am tech diag electronic engines:roflmao:
and no agricultor engeneer

[grinovsky]

:canabis:
I know that you are ignorant and you will not learn.
The information is NOT for you. I do not care.
It is for the rest of the forum so they can make their own opinion!
greetings,
filecloud
so put this information where i think
ecutool have made money from idiot like you i never buy other interface if the once that have work perfect

[grinovsky]

Do you repair TV's or radios? Which is your speciality?
some satelite receiver when stop to work,to repair them,you have to flash his IC EN25B80 with original dump
becose when working;the processore write and erease in this IC so with the time errors apear in the IC dump ,and you have to flash the IC with the ori or like do some agricultors change the motherbord:manusign:

[Stanton]

yes,i repair tv and radio ,and satelite receiver without any probleme
oh,my dear,how many times i have to say you that i am tech diag electronic engines:roflmao:
and no agricultor engeneer

Are you familiar with the term "crafty butcher"?

[grinovsky]

no i come familiar with the term "agricultor:roflmao:

[Stanton]

I dont know this word, is it Algerian? Its not English thats for sure.

[grinovsky]

oh,stude answer as his autor
we are not here to compare contry idiot
i am so poor on geographie

[Stanton]

what......?

[lolooo1981]

Is it the mother's day who make your child attitude everyone ?
I am interesseted too by tune benz clk270 CDI.
One of my friend have it and tuned by professional the car have 210 HP and is tuner say its too dangerous for engine to go higher..
Is it true ?

[grinovsky]

the chiptuning is break limiter
but any one can ask for a customer chiptuning
if your freind do not want more torque ,he hase to say that to his tuner

[grinovsky]

most people ask for max power when they ask for chiptuning,how resolve this probleme?

[Stanton]

You tune within the safe limits of engine/ancillaries and transmission etc.
This comes from experience, and with this experience its a problem which is easy to resolve.

[coolis]

Is it the mother's day who make your child attitude everyone ?
I am interesseted too by tune benz clk270 CDI.
One of my friend have it and tuned by professional the car have 210 HP and is tuner say its too dangerous for engine to go higher..
Is it true ?

No, he can?t find all limiter.. normally injection time you can get about 235hp in stock turbo if you want more change 3bar map and bigger turbo example 320cdi turbo..

[bazare]

Back in business.
My friend grinovsky, till now you have proved us:

1. You have no idea what is the maximum torque supported by this car with stock clutch and flywheel. 765 Nm as you said is pretty stupid isn't it?

2. You don't know what is the difference between a Motorola MCU and bosch / infineon etc.

3. You have no idea what boot mode / boot pin is or how this works. Also you say BDM = Boot Mode which is sad for you and your customers.

4. You also have no idea what is the working pressure of any turbo, you never heard of SVBL but it doesn't matter. You just add 8% all the way and you believe it is OK.

5. For you injection calibration map MUST be DEcalibrated for a "good" tuning.

6. You think ECU measures resistances from MAF sensors when in fact ECU measures VOLTAGE DROP.

7. You think that if you have "AT DISTANCE technician diploma" you know better. In fact you have no clue about simple things like how things work.

8. Also you proved that without ECUSAFE you have no knowledge about DPF - EGR -off

Please tell us more stupid things so we can have a nice week-end.

[lolooo1981]

I think "professional" tuner is able to know limit of engine.
Max power? for what? turbo or engine down? excuse me but 235 HP for 270 cdi car origine, i think is a little more...
Prepare for mechanical repair and a lot of money...Benz is expensive...

My friend ride all of day with this car tuned since 1 year and no problem.

After,with bigger turbo ok i think.

Sorry for my english

[grinovsky]

this is my mail guys

[grinovsky]

and those are my freinds on dk forum:top:
and you will never be accepted with them agricultor engeneer:roflmao:

[bazare]

Hey, hey king of the world, post here your mods so we can laugh better. :roflmao:

Don't forget grinovsky recipe to "good" tuning: 8% all over on turbo maps

[grinovsky]

yes,but i receive each 2 to 3 days one mail like this:roflmao:

[grinovsky]

one of my chiptuning file for a company
any one can see it ,no pw
it cost expensive

[bazare]

Do you know how many cylinders are in those cars? :roflmao:

My friend, tuning via e-mail without logging the car say one thing about your tunes: THEY ARE S**T

All your friends receive those % tuning files made by ECM?:roflmao:

2% 4% 6% on turbo map at 1200 RPM very smart of you!

turbo limiter modified all over ... even at very low atm pressure ... another smart move

drivers wish only at WOT 12% all over, even between 0 and 750 RPM

Smoke vs MAP poorly modded ...

Rail map moded all 2.5% but you missed the SVRL which still limits you rail pressure at 1350 bar

Injectors opening time is the best joke of this remap. Just as I said before ... DECLIBRATION!!!

BOI maps are changed inssuficient and not in middle RPM where car really need advance!

[grinovsky]

do you need the original too,?

[coolis]

I think "professional" tuner is able to know limit of engine.
Max power? for what? turbo or engine down? excuse me but 235 HP for 270 cdi car origine, i think is a little more...
Prepare for mechanical repair and a lot of money...Benz is expensive...

My friend ride all of day with this car tuned since 1 year and no problem.

After,with bigger turbo ok i think.

Sorry for my english
Max power stock turbo is about 230-235hp at 1.5bar if you want more comes lot smoke.. and cdi engine don?t like smoke..loss power.

If you change bigger turbo and 3 bar map engine get lot of more air and more power of course.

Originally injector you can get out max about 50hp/cylinder.

If you want evrything out that engine you have to change amg injectors, bigger turbo and 3bar map and you probaply get 55hp/cylinder or more..275hp-280hp

AMG injector can do more power, but you have to find better turbo.
320cdi turbos 1.8bar boost and amg injector you can get about 280hp, whitout any smoke.

And now i speak 1350bar engine.

[P2XA]

Dear Mr.bazare If you really know how to do good tuned files then read this post and demonstrate their ability to:http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f173/professional-tuned-file-request-citroen-c5-1-6hdi-209108/

[P2XA]

I'm ready to test your well-tuned file on your machine and to evaluate the merits of any changes.

[grinovsky]

the customer sayed (as always) drive perfect
the company that i send the dump is very happy becose there customer was very happy when he trayed the car
power,stability,.....no fault

[grinovsky]

may be other expert on mercedes benz honor us with his advis?

[Stanton]

How many logs did the company send you before you sent your final iteration?

[grinovsky]

as you can see the agricultor engeneer have analyse the chiptuning dump of this MB in 1minutes without the original dump and he find all my faults:stupid:
NB:i tuned the dump in 4 houres

[Stanton]

But how many sets of logs from datalogging did they send you in that 4 hours?

[filecloud]

one of my chiptuning file for a company
any one can see it ,no pw
We also see the mistakes you did. Attached the stock file for everyone.
- Rail pressure exceeded over 1350bar limit. Singe limiter not done.
- Smoke map not done properly. More than necessarry at 1.2 bar and scaling not extended to the boost it should run. Stops at 1.2bar boost. Boost map goes up to 1.31bar.
- Injection timing touched, while it is not necessarry to fool the ecu like with a tuningbox.
- reverse calculation map touched the wrong way. It is not necessarry also.

stop blaming yourself with those files. Everyone can do them like this.

[grinovsky]

Dear Mr.bazare If you really know how to do good tuned files then read this post and demonstrate their ability to:http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f173/professional-tuned-file-request-citroen-c5-1-6hdi-209108/
I NOTE THE CHALLENGE

[bazare]

No problem pay 150 euro by paypal and I prepare the file for 1.6hdi ... Don't forget to log the car before and after.

mr grinovsky if I analyzed your file in 1 min it means that I have the original. If I saw how much you increased by % it also mean that I had the original. As usual filecloud found the same mistakes as me, and we probably know what we are saying:D

[P2XA]

I am willing to pay 150 but I do not know why I cry.

[lolooo1981]

Excuse me but who have this car with this power 235HP ?(with all original mecanic)
Report me please i would see mechanical part after 10000 km

[Stanton]

I wish EVC would release software compatible with iPhone!

[grinovsky]

No problem pay 150 euro by paypal and I prepare the file for 1.6hdi ... Don't forget to log the car before and after.

mr grinovsky if I analyzed your file in 1 min it means that I have the original. If I saw how much you increased by % it also mean that I had the original. As usual filecloud found the same mistakes as me, and we probably know what we are saying:D
nothing surprises me:beheaded:

[P2XA]

It seems Mr. bazare not ready to make such serious casualties. Say that you can not mean being able to.

[bazare]

Hey there friend, you also get into this discussion without knowing a thing about chiptuning. When you will understand what I wrote about the file posted by g we will speak more. Meanwhile flash whatever S**T g is sending to you, you don't know the difference anyway.

grinovsky did his best and tried to impress us with his "BEST" 220cdi file. Unfortunately for him some of us can see the difference between a good and a bad file. He should explain why he DECALIBRATED the Injectors opening time (Duration) when it is not necessary. Also why he moded turbo by x%. he can also explain why he raised rail map without single value etc.
Wait I know the answer ... because he knows NOTHING about chiptuning :roflmao:

Again I can do your file, no problem. Just send the money. I am not an R-tard like others and I don't work for free.

[rappttor]

and so this topic demonstrate the human tragedy, how come we can find IQ formed with 2 and mostly 3 figures, but average will be always 2 figures!
some guys are really low on phosphorus on upper floors :roflmao:

grin give it a rest, have a little integrity, go cry to your momma!

[bazare]

Mr Grinovsky I will say this only once ... you are just a monkey on a forum.

The file you posted is NOT yours. One of our forum mates bought that file from chiptuningfiles.com

What you pretend is yours is actually someone else work. That chiptuning company is very bad BTW. I can give you proof who bought that file from where and when. Also I can tell you that you have it because of bad checksum.

So stop telling us BULLS**T

[grinovsky]

realy verry interesting
this dump is not mine of corse;you have to paye 200 euro to see my file bazare
a freind of me have send me this dump to check for it as many others ,he payed for this dump a chiptuner that have web site like yours bazare
so my advice was that this chiptuning file is made by agricultor like that we have on DK forum and that he will have +10% between 2000 and 3500rpm and that's all nothink elsse
and to prouve to my freind my advis i uploded the dump in this thread and used some stupide idiote agricultor to give they fammous advice and i sent a PM to my freind to read what you write to confirme my advice(poor quality)
that's what we say where i live:
the humain is a mixture of sentiments and inteligence
if he let his sentiments he becomes a machine
if he let his inteligence he become an animal
see to yoursel in miror and you will see a machine dear bazare not more and not less:bandit:

[bazare]

one of my chiptuning file for a company
any one can see it ,no pw
it cost expensive

My friend you lack the intelligence part ... did you forgot what you said before?
I have seen files made by YOU here in the forum ... 8% on turbo map with stock KKK turbo. Without intelligence you are still a monkey on a forum.

[P2XA]

Bazare! Grinovsky least proves his ability to good effect