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garry1312
19th May, 2011, 05:12 PM
Can rewinding live TV be done?

I am running Dream Elite Blackhole Pheonix Edition image and have a 320GB Samsung Spinpoint HD.

I can record and pause live TV but I cannot rewind. Is there a plugin/addon that will allow me to do this?

davvo
19th May, 2011, 05:22 PM
yellow button to pause live TV
ok button to play
left button next to ok button to rewind live TV


see pic

garry1312
19th May, 2011, 06:51 PM
does that work on the image i am using :/

davvo
19th May, 2011, 06:59 PM
try it

then you will know

satsmo
19th May, 2011, 07:05 PM
Have you installed the timeshift add on?

garry1312
19th May, 2011, 07:23 PM
working away from home so not got it infront of me been trying to phone the mrs to get her to try that out.

Not downloaded the timeshift plugin but can pause. were can i download the timeshift plugin?

satsmo
19th May, 2011, 07:29 PM
Through your add on menu in the blue panel probably?

However I highly recommend installing mfaraj57's TSpanel it will have all you need plus much more and he supports it very well.

You will find it here http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f39/enigma2-tspanel-plugin-everything-you-need-your-image-205464/

If you want the timeshift plugin as a standalone ipk for manual installation, just shout.

garry1312
19th May, 2011, 07:48 PM
cheers satsmo will give they options a try when i get home im back up the road tomorrow night but will leave it to Sunday cause if a go in tomorrow and start playing about way that the mrs aint going to be happy and got a wedding on sat.

i was sure i heard it could be done before. hardly use my internal hard drive for recordings so i might as well put it to use :)

satsmo
19th May, 2011, 07:52 PM
It will annoy the hell out of you when she finds out how to put it to use :)

One bad thing about permanent timeshift is you will lose the red button record option, you can still record of course. But play around with the timeshift option settings and see how it works out for you.

davvo
19th May, 2011, 08:00 PM
ah your using Dream Elite Pheonix Edition
no need to install anything as live tv pause rewind works
by default

im using same image
red button also works as normal for recording

garry1312
19th May, 2011, 08:19 PM
satsmo very true when we had sky it was always 'you just missed that' lol. told her in a few months im going to be buying a original dreambox 8000 or the vu+ ultimo so she wasnt to impressed lol.

davvo how do you rewind live tv i can pause and record but no idea on how to rewind. tried simply just pressing rewind and got the mrs to try the button to the left of the ok button earlier and that took her on to the bouquets.

davvo
19th May, 2011, 09:05 PM
go to a channel say bbc1
press the yellow button on the remote
the picture will now freeze/pause with a timer counting top left of screen

leave for a few mins

when ready to watch again press ok on remote

then let it run for a few mins so you got something to rewind
you cant rewind if theres nothing to rewind

then press the left button and it will rewind
the right button to fast forward


when you find the part you want to watch press ok on remote

to exit out of live tv press the black button under the red button
(see pic)

it will then ask you if you want to exit click yes

you are now back to normal tv

garry1312
20th May, 2011, 07:40 AM
aww i meant like if you had been watching a channel and for instance you missed what someone had said or something then rewinding.

I know you can do it if you have paused the channel.

Will try some plugin options and see if that provides a solution.

Basically would need something that would go in to timeshift the soon as you go on to a channel temporary recording in the background allowing you to rewind.

Maybe its not possible if not its not a big deal would just be a added bonus.

Thanks guys.

davvo
20th May, 2011, 09:48 AM
there is one called Permanent Timeshift plugin
google it

i read that its buggy

you still have to push buttons to get it in and out of Timeshift

not tried myself as i dont need it

not even sure it will do what you want

only way is for you to find it via google
and try it

garry1312
20th May, 2011, 09:56 AM
yeah will give that a try thanks mate.

If its buggy it will be off right away as I said its not a big deal having it just the odd time I think 'ooh that would be handy the now'.

davvo
20th May, 2011, 10:12 AM
DM 800 - DM 8000 Addons-Plugin



Permanent TimeShift 1.0.0-rc25-r2 (Mipsel-Enigma2)

garry1312
20th May, 2011, 10:19 AM
Cheers mate will give that a shot once I get home and post on its performance.

garry1312
20th May, 2011, 06:09 PM
hi davvo extracted this and its just one file any idea were i ftp it to?

garry1312
20th May, 2011, 06:18 PM
sorry mate just home shattered it should go in tmp.

garry1312
20th May, 2011, 06:35 PM
loaded that on but not seen it in my plugins :/ seems to be working ok. think if you rewind and then if you go to change the channel you will need to press stop and then change the channel as the left and right buttons on each side of the OK button then turn to rewind/fastforward.

Just installed it the now and thats all the info I have on it at the moment. Will post back again.

cagneyboy
20th May, 2011, 07:48 PM
Tried this.

FTP into TMP but does not seem to be working, am I doing something wrong?

garry1312
21st May, 2011, 09:20 AM
hey cagney I have it working here what image you running?

garry1312
21st May, 2011, 10:16 AM
also once yo put it in tmp did you then install it through manual install?

garry1312
23rd May, 2011, 04:43 PM
Thanks Davvo again for the link.

Just a wee update:

I have tested this over the weekend and was very impressed. Simply sent it to tmp then installed, that was it.

As for bugs when i first tested it during rewind the programme went black (think this may have been on a fast speed) but only noticed that twice and never again. When playing back I experienced no glitching.

Overall very happy with it works a treat :)

IAmATeaf
23rd May, 2011, 04:51 PM
Are there options for how much to record? Surelt it can't just start recording till it fills your HDD?

garry1312
23rd May, 2011, 05:18 PM
its only temporary recording it once you change the channel thats it. basically same as rewind on live tv on a sky receiver.

Got a 320gb hard drive installed with probably 300gb space free so i cant see me being on a channel long enough to use up that.

alom5
25th May, 2011, 09:05 PM
DM 800 - DM 8000 Addons-Plugin



Permanent TimeShift 1.0.0-rc25-r2 (Mipsel-Enigma2)







i tried this but the file is corrupt and not opening.....could you upload again please davvo.

davvo
26th May, 2011, 01:01 AM
here yer go

alom5
1st June, 2011, 10:44 PM
i put this onto bh and it dosent work. instead it goes into a loop and dosent boot up....ended up flashing the image again.

happened with 2 different boxes!

confused.........any help.?

thanks.

garry1312
2nd June, 2011, 12:43 PM
hmmm unsure mate I have had no problem with it. Noticed at the weekend there within plugins to download there is one maybe give that one a try.

irsh12
2nd June, 2011, 08:43 PM
hmmm unsure mate I have had no problem with it. Noticed at the weekend there within plugins to download there is one maybe give that one a try.

Hi there, was wondering, is your hard drive attached to your dreambox internally or externally?

Thanks.

garry1312
3rd June, 2011, 09:35 AM
internally mate.

lombard
5th October, 2011, 10:10 PM
Hi all, i have a DM800pro with a 250gb hard drive western digital, using dreamelite 1.3.3 phoenix editon 2, on sky sports hd, when pausing and resuming it struggles alot, is that normal ? sly sports hd just too much bitrate, also discovery hd, others are fine ? is it a image problem or just too high bitrate for it too cope with ?

its ok on rest of the channels, and its not a server issue:aetsch:

alom5
5th October, 2011, 10:18 PM
i don't have a problem with any of the channels mate. rewinding is fine and at different speeds.

saying that i have actually got rid of that image as it started to cause me soe issues as well. i'm running the latest pli on my pro. maybe give that a go.. nice image.

lombard
5th October, 2011, 10:24 PM
i don't have a problem with any of the channels mate. rewinding is fine and at different speeds.

saying that i have actually got rid of that image as it started to cause me soe issues as well. i'm running the latest pli on my pro. maybe give that a go.. nice image.

so if you pause for like 20 secs on sly sports hd say on content that is hd like football, then resume let it play for few mines its perfect no glitches at all ?

alom5
5th October, 2011, 10:26 PM
i've just gone on the darts and paused it..........no probs at all. (35secs actually lol).

i've done it on t live footy before and no probs either mate. i use the permanent timeshift plugin 1.0.1

lombard
5th October, 2011, 10:30 PM
i've just gone on the darts and paused it..........no probs at all. (35secs actually lol).

i've done it on t live footy before and no probs either mate. i use the permanent timeshift plugin 1.0.1

im also using permanent timeshift plugin 1.0.1, could be image having older drivers ?

will give that image a go and try again, any chance of a link ? also does it have addons manager ? choice of skins ?

Thanks

alom5
5th October, 2011, 10:40 PM
Multiupload.com - upload your files to multiple file hosting sites! (http://www.multiupload.com/BG99VF5IO4)

got what you need and has about 4 skins on image....i use the magic hd one.

goto plugind and green for download manager...has 2.2.1 already installed

alom5
5th October, 2011, 10:49 PM
let us know if it sorts it out for you lombard.

lombard
5th October, 2011, 10:49 PM
Thanks will give this a go tommorrow too late to try now and tweak around :stoned:, will report back with results, I have tried quite a few images, but always went back to dreamelite like the look of it,

Thanks again

lombard
5th October, 2011, 11:02 PM
I found this OpenPLi-2.1-beta-dm800-20111004 by gjstroom same just newer right ?

alom5
6th October, 2011, 12:01 AM
I found this OpenPLi-2.1-beta-dm800-20111004 by gjstroom same just newer right ?

did it not sort your problem out then? the one i'm running is from couple of weeks earlier....i couldn't remember where i got it. i can upload it if you want.

lombard
6th October, 2011, 09:08 AM
Hi, so i flashed in openpli, did a test, paused high bitrate hd channel and resumed not a single glitch at all, must be the new drivers ?

but this image doesnt seem user friendly at all, install permenant timeshift plugin how ? on dreamelite transfer plugin to tmp folder goto addons manager and install simple ?,

also if i didnt have a hard drive in or usb, i could use the epg settings to get epg frpm rytec_uk or satmate on dreamelite how on this ?

Thanks

alom5
6th October, 2011, 11:09 AM
the permanent timeshift plugin is under extensions once you go into the download panel by going into menu-plugins-green button.

theres a lot of stuff on there that you can download and install.

i think for manual install....has to be done via telnet.

but everything i needed was in the addons section....

on menu-setup-crossepg....configure...you can choose internal flash if you wish and choose where to download and which sats.

i've never downloaded to internal flash as always been told not a good idea.

lombard
6th October, 2011, 11:58 AM
hi, ok i got tspanel 3.6 on, downloaded timeshift 1.01, works no glitches on highest bitrate hd channels, so was a image issue,

got cross epg working on hard drive, didnt know it fits internally,

problem is i cant get wireless stick working, it worked on dream, it gets found, find router put in details etc, as soon i press ok to activate it, counts down it freezes, i downloaded wireless usb fix from panel still same ?

colinh1213
6th October, 2011, 01:26 PM
d/l the plug in an it will work , i just did , an boom , works a treat,

lombard
6th October, 2011, 02:40 PM
i reflashed which alom attached OpenPLi-2.1-beta-dm800-20110923-sim201-ssl82, finds usb stick, i connect to router, its really slow even when trying to ftp in to box soo slow , was fast on dream elite. also why is there lan and another lan 2 in network settings ?

after finally sorting the recording, pausing glitch out, now get this problem :saint:

alom5
6th October, 2011, 03:03 PM
i reflashed which alom attached OpenPLi-2.1-beta-dm800-20110923-sim201-ssl82, finds usb stick, i connect to router, its really slow even when trying to ftp in to box soo slow , was fast on dream elite. also why is there lan and another lan 2 in network settings ?

after finally sorting the recording, pausing glitch out, now get this problem :saint:

sorry...mate. i didn't use any of those settings. just the basic stuff and all been working fine. i use homeplugs as had issues with different stuff before and the homeplugs are heaven sent :)

lombard
6th October, 2011, 09:39 PM
Hi, ok after flashing a few images, currently using Newnigma2 3.2.2V2-SIM201-SSL82, got everthing working , cross epg, picons, some nice skins, tspanel working

The timeshift is perfect, no glitches or holdups so must have been older drivers on dreamelite 1.3.3 pheonix ??

might try edgs nemesis next, and then decide and finally watch tv,

alom5
6th October, 2011, 09:48 PM
lol.....do you think you will get to watch some tv.........at last lol

used the newnigma image you using on my se....its good.

lombard
6th October, 2011, 09:57 PM
lol.....do you think you will get to watch some tv.........at last lol

used the newnigma image you using on my se....its good.

I been at it all day, ya looking to sit back and enjoy watch some tv well thats why i bought it , it does get fustrating though

Newnigma2 3.2.2V2-SIM201-SSL82 looks very good, very slick, only if it had more skin choices, most aint that great,

timeshifting is great glitch free now, gonna get dm800se too soon

now hows the nemesis 2.3 image :stoned:

alom5
6th October, 2011, 10:22 PM
got my se running sweet now. i hope i can stay off starting to flash again....just seen some more new (newer versions) images ....but nothing better than what i got on so my twitching hasn't started lol

lombard
6th October, 2011, 10:37 PM
got my se running sweet now. i hope i can stay off starting to flash again....just seen some more new (newer versions) images ....but nothing better than what i got on so my twitching hasn't started lol

What image you got on dm800se ? im gonna order one , really need the dreamoem site back, was great place for all images and feedback, now im like looking all over the place and not sure if its new

alom5
6th October, 2011, 11:36 PM
got this one on. Digital Kaos - Downloads - Newnigma2-dm800se-ssl84-sim210 -sat4fun (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/downloads/images/2/newnigma2-dm800se-ssl84-sim210-sat4fun-1814/)
download picons and oledpicons....infinitymod skin. manual install crossepg, permanent timeshift......yeah got everything i want working...youtube..some other stuff as well. it also has tspanel on there as standard.

going strong at present :)

ps. if anyone does put this on make sure to turn the auto update firmware off....or you will be unhappy when it does update and tell you - you got a clone. :manutop:

satsmo
6th October, 2011, 11:38 PM
Same as alom, (not the exact same but Openpli with ssl84), and all working so no need to patch, (works like an original), thanks to mfaraj and friends :)

alom5
6th October, 2011, 11:40 PM
Same as alom, (not the exact same but Openpli with ssl84), and all working so no need to patch, (works like an original), thanks to mfaraj and friends :)

yep! thanks to the guys....who do some excellent work for our benefit.

much appreciated guys:knuddel:

garry1312
7th October, 2011, 09:39 AM
Glad to hear you have got this issue resolved Lomard.

All this talk of images isnt good for me lol, early finish the day so think I will do some testing and give Barry Allen a try also.

lombard
7th October, 2011, 11:12 AM
Glad to hear you have got this issue resolved Lomard.

All this talk of images isnt good for me lol, early finish the day so think I will do some testing and give Barry Allen a try also.

still the usb wireless stick not working :stoned:

garry did you ever have dreamelite working perfect timeshift , pausing , smooth and glitch free on dm800,

garry1312
7th October, 2011, 11:41 AM
to be honest I never stuck to dreamelite for to long mate didnt like the choice of skins available.

lombard
7th October, 2011, 11:44 AM
to be honest I never stuck to dreamelite for to long mate didnt like the choice of skins available.

though you used dreamelite pheonix image, on dm800 ?

i only wanna change cause the pausing , timeshifting is glitchy on it, other images it works fine, but then you lose look of dream elite lol and cant seem to get usb wireless stick to work on them, tried all drivers in tspanel, on dreamelite pheonix it worked fine

lombard
8th October, 2011, 04:46 PM
Ok update , after flashing quite a few images past few days, Finally settled for OpenPLi 2.1, Got the tspanel on, even got wireless usb stick working, drivers in Tspanel :),

ok the recording, I find this very good, hardly glitches, unlike the dreamelite pheonix image, can pause and resume, record very slick :),

Finally sit and finally watch tv , oh wait just ordered the DM800se will start all over again

Thanks Alom for your recommendation ,

alom5
8th October, 2011, 05:24 PM
no probs mate. i found it to be a good image for the sim201. shame its not as good on the sim210 for se.

i'm glad you can finally watch some tv lol...