2010 vauxhall Zafira 1.9CDTI 8v tuned file

[wiseman]

Hi guys, 120bhp seams a little slow, can some one help me get some good power from it?
Here is the original file
Read it with MPPS.

Thanks:top:

[grinovsky]

six first maps are driver maps
1C1DB0 lambda map
1C2F78 egr
1CE3FE and 1CE642 torque/iq maps
1DCBFA OPEN TIMES INJECTORS
1E1BA0 and 1E2028 turbo maps
1E7000 and 1E74C8 rai presure maps
you have to search the limiters
and i don't think that this dump need to be tuned

[wiseman]

six first maps are driver maps
1C1DB0 lambda map
1C2F78 egr
1CE3FE and 1CE642 torque/iq maps
1DCBFA OPEN TIMES INJECTORS
1E1BA0 and 1E2028 turbo maps
1E7000 and 1E74C8 rai presure maps
you have to search the limiters
and i don't think that this dump need to be tuned

why doesnt the dump need tuned?

Il try to open and find them in OLS but i really dont know enough to start altering it

[grinovsky]

it's original but it's tuned
ex:in turbo map the max presure is 2300mbar
when you tuned it what you set 2500mbar?or 2600mbar?

[wiseman]

it's original but it's tuned
ex:in turbo map the max presure is 2300mbar
when you tuned it what you set 2500mbar?or 2600mbar?

hmmm? This map is completely original, i have not touched the parameters at all and this car is almost brand new, has not been near anyone else appart from me. only 6000 miles on it

[bazare]

Many maps are common for 120 / 150 Hp version. If you look in a software for z19dth you will see injectors opening time duration calibrated to the same IQ.
You can gain +40hp just by touching 4 or 5 maps.

[wiseman]

Many maps are common for 120 / 150 Hp version. If you look in a software for z19dth you will see injectors opening time duration calibrated to the same IQ.
You can gain +40hp just by touching 4 or 5 maps.

40hp+!! Nice:top:
I do have winOLS, but i am unsure about changing map values :afraid:

[grinovsky]

tray modify open time injectors map

[wiseman]

tray modify open time injectors map

by how much? Im a bit stuck

[grinovsky]

i will send you dump

[wiseman]

:top:
i will send you dump

Thanks very much, I will look at the one you send and compare the 2. I would love to be able to do this myself, one day hopefully.
Thanks guys

p.s Dont be shy to make a powerfull map,the car is still under warranty lol

[grinovsky]

by how much? Im a bit stuck
try this:only open time injectors mode
pw..............pm

[wiseman]

try this:only open time injectors mode
pw..............pm

Will flash in a couple of mins, road test and report.
Thank you very much mate

[wiseman]

Just went a road test after flashing there, cars seams marginally better but not much difference, Thank you very much, I take it it would require a whole load of work to make it 40+ bhp/cv?

Regards

[grinovsky]

start by make egr off and you will resent big difference in driving at low speed engine

[wiseman]

start by make egr off and you will sent big difference in driving at low speed engine

I have Ecusafe version 1.9.3.0, You think this version is still ok or a bit out of date? will i remove the DPF too?

[grinovsky]

ecusafe for dpf off only
to close egr you have to do it by remap

[wiseman]

ecusafe for dpf off only
to close egr you have to do it by remap

What is the box below the Dpf removal box for?

[wiseman]

I see the EGR Map, i see it maxes out on the map at 12000?

Here is what i can see...


6000 6000 6000 6250 6750 7600 8250 9050 10000 10500 11000 11500 12000 12000 12000 12000
2500 2500 2600 3000 3575 4075 4600 5175 5950 7210 8500 10450 11500 12000 12000 12000
2550 2550 2600 2900 3200 3750 4200 4600 5375 6225 7500 9450 10550 12000 12000 12000
2800 2825 2880 2950 3100 3600 4000 4300 4850 5625 6550 8150 9300 10300 11150 12000
2800 2825 2880 2950 3120 3560 4000 4300 4700 5200 5875 7050 7700 9050 10625 12000
2800 2825 2880 3040 3360 3790 4230 4550 4880 5200 5525 6275 7050 8250 10000 12000
2800 2850 2980 3170 3610 4000 4400 4700 5000 5150 5400 5875 6450 7725 9650 12000
2900 3050 3200 3430 3885 4200 4575 4900 5200 5350 5500 5900 6450 7650 9600 12000
3200 3350 3550 3750 4140 4450 4700 5025 5400 5550 5650 6000 6450 7850 9800 12000
3550 3750 3950 4135 4510 4740 4955 5300 5650 5750 5900 6200 6750 8225 10250 12000
4430 4510 4700 4830 5085 5315 5620 5925 6200 6500 6950 7400 8000 9200 10950 12000
9050 9050 9050 9050 9050 9050 9050 9050 9050 10650 12000 12000 12000 12000 12000 12000
12000 12000 12000 12000 12000 12000 12000 12000 12000 12000 12000 12000 12000 12000 12000 12000
12000 12000 12000 12000 12000 12000 12000 12000 12000 12000 12000 12000 12000 12000 12000 12000

UPDATE;

Changed the rest of the values to 12000, took it a road test and the car defo feels better:top:

Where else should i move on to, to change? boost?

[danielm]

Hello,
Beware of MPPS.
Is a partial (maps only) could block the ECU.
Maps are missing many areas (covered with FF)
The best BDM.

BR

[wiseman]

Hello,
Beware of MPPS.
Is a partial (maps only) could block the ECU.
Maps are missing many areas (covered with FF)
The best BDM.

BR

whats the best way to flash an edc16 via OBD?

[grinovsky]

the best way to flash edc16 is by bdm port

[bazare]

Hello,
Beware of MPPS.
Is a partial (maps only) could block the ECU.
Maps are missing many areas (covered with FF)
The best BDM.

BR

I flashed more than 30 OPEL cars with edc16 c9 / c39 by mpps all were OK and more than 10 by BDM. Partial read / write is not dangerous because loader is not touched. Before you close EGR completely just think what happens to the EGT-might not be a good idea. Our friend Grinovsky told you to decalibrate the Injectors opening time but the map is the same for 120 and 150 HP and is defined to an IQ = 80mg. If you take a look at the Conversion Nm to IQ you will see that this car requires only 63-64mg at max. This map don't need to be modified. You should modify Torque limiter / single and gear dependant, lambda maps, and turbo. For better performance you can raise EGR map 18-23% in low RPM, add some rail pressure without exceding 1600bar and remodel your drivers wish.
Or you can just believe what G is teeling you :roflmao:

[grinovsky]

I flashed more than 30 OPEL cars with edc16 c9 / c39 by mpps all were OK and more than 10 by BDM. Partial read / write is not dangerous because loader is not touched. Before you close EGR completely just think what happens to the EGT-might not be a good idea. Our friend Grinovsky told you to decalibrate the Injectors opening time but the map is the same for 120 and 150 HP and is defined to an IQ = 80mg. If you take a look at the Conversion Nm to IQ you will see that this car requires only 63-64mg at max. This map don't need to be modified. You should modify Torque limiter / single and gear dependant, lambda maps, and turbo. For better performance you can raise EGR map 18-23% in low RPM, add some rail pressure without exceding 1600bar and remodel your drivers wish.
Or you can just believe what G is teeling you :roflmao:
:stupid:some professionnel chiptuning software desactive the EGR like this

[bazare]

:aetsch: And some "pro-tuners" think that duration maps must be decalibrated for tuning in 1.9cdti 120hp :roflmao:

The relevance of your previous post was what? To show us you don't know how to manually disable EGR?

[grinovsky]

poor bazare;the duration maps was not decalibrated as you think,i just add 2ms to 21ms at 6000rpm to inject more iq
and wiseman (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/126437-wiseman/) have resent no think becose to resent the change the speed engine must be 4000-6000rpm and belive me it's more powered than original
and other stupidity that you say :add some rail pressure without exceding 1600bar
like a proffesionnel who had flashed more than 50 opel
and in reality you can remap rail presure map to 1800bar without probleme

[grinovsky]

:fight:come on bazare i want to teach you how remap this opel
i have the time this night,only for you

[wiseman]

:stupid:some professionnel chiptuning software desactive the EGR like this

What program is this your using here?

Have a look at this? did i sucessfully disable the egr?

[grinovsky]

it's my secret weapen matte:santaclaus:

[bazare]

You can raise rail pressure as much as you want, you don't know what type of fuel regulator is under the hood anyway.
No matter how much you added on duration map ... original was calibrated to 80mg and whatever you say you still decalibrated it.
You probably never saw this engine in your life and you are just talking and talking and talking.
You have proved to me and to the others the "quality" of remaps ... so no need to convince me anymore.
You can do as many SH**Y remaps as you want I don't care.

The purpose of chiptuning is not to gain power, but to be SAFE while gaining power. You are just too "PRO-TUNER" to understand that.

Don't worry I will still hunt you down all over the forum so you won't test your bad-files on other people cars!

[grinovsky]

i don't raise rail pressure as much as I want,if you are realy chiptuner when you see the time injector map you see in the end off axe the max presure that allong this injectors and you can see now if you apply the coefecient 1800bar;it's not as i want,it's dealer who say that in maps open time injector,poor bazare
all this time you don't know this little information and you speak about calibration,it's a big word for you as i think
and i will be verry happy to see how you remap the lambda map;i never do it,and i want to learn,it's a new for me as i find it perfect calibrated and you say that we have to remap!!!!

[bazare]

Hey stupido ... in many-many cars the injectors opening time is calibrated to 2500 bars, it mean that it is safe to raise rail pressure to 2500 bar? R-tard!!!
About the lambda don't worry for the price of a remap I will show you. If you would have seen this engine before or would have ever logged you might have known why ...

[jovime]

You can raise rail pressure as much as you want, you don't know what type of fuel regulator is under the hood anyway.
No matter how much you added on duration map ... original was calibrated to 80mg and whatever you say you still decalibrated it.
You probably never saw this engine in your life and you are just talking and talking and talking.
You have proved to me and to the others the "quality" of remaps ... so no need to convince me anymore.
You can do as many SH**Y remaps as you want I don't care.

The purpose of chiptuning is not to gain power, but to be SAFE while gaining power. You are just too "PRO-TUNER" to understand that.

Don't worry I will still hunt you down all over the forum so you won't test your bad-files on other people cars!

No worry Bazare, don't waste your time arguing with him, you're right, no further discussion on this subject should be carried out.

:top:

[grinovsky]

i speak about this opel and his map,idiot as you are,and when you remap the lambda map you think too be able to know the EGT-might but realy you decalbrate the EGT with your stupidity that's all what you know do

[grinovsky]

No worry Bazare, don't waste your time arguing with him, you're right, no further discussion on this subject should be carried out.

:top:
bazare use several username like you :thefinger:

[bazare]

OMFG ... I decalibrate EGT by tuning lambda, but you have the brilliant idea to close the EGR?:roflmao:

Do you know what the term decalibration mean? Can you show me please the EGT calibration map in this ECU? :aetsch:

[grinovsky]

it's lambda map who calibrate the EGT big idiot,it's lambda map that stabilise the temperature of exauhtgaz temperature
lambda map that you remap in your stupide chiptuning
lambda map that correct the ration air/fuel,don't play with it in diesel ;and if you do it you are more stupide as i think:roflmao:

[bazare]

As usual you have no idea what you're talking about, AFR and the others you never logged them, you don't even have the tools to log them. I'm talking from experience you're talking just for the sake of conversation.
I'm asking again, what will happen with the EGT if you close EGR? That's all that it is in your head ... EGR must be OFF in all cars, pretty stupid don't you think?

Again my friend, don't worry I will hunt you down all over the forum.

[grinovsky]

yes;calibrate lambda map idiot
your are big tuner

[grinovsky]

my competence is proved in the front;not only in the forum
i never hade a probleme with my partener before and after remap
they all say:work perfect

[bazare]

hey R-tard ... wrong factor, before opening your mouth check again!!!

You said the file is not stock ... check this out, full BDM read ... guess what it's identical. :roflmao:

OMFG!!! I said BDM but you think it's bootloader =))

[bazare]

start by make egr off and you will resent big difference in driving at low speed engine
Best idea EVER to keep EGT low =)) you are just a clown mate!:roflmao:

[grinovsky]

it's original but it's tuned
ex:in turbo map the max presure is 2300mbar
when you tuned it what you set 2500mbar?or 2600mbar?
the 2 first word are:it's original
did you read that too

[grinovsky]

:beer:
Best idea EVER to keep EGT low =)) you are just a clown mate!:roflmao:
i do it with succes every time,mercedes benz;volswagen;peugeot hdi;some renault;and others

the 2 last was:mercedes benz A classe 160 CDI ;and peugeot 2.0HDI
and i have a commande for 4 mercedes benz for this week
my parteners are happy by the service that i give them

[grinovsky]

and i think that you have to payed your client to flash his ecu with your lambda remap

[wiseman]

so is it good or bad to completely close egr?

[grinovsky]

iit's good for engine health ;and expensive;it cost 70euro in local tuner to close the egr
but it's bad for the ozone to close it,that's why it exist in the engines

[z786]

egr also gets rid of turbo gasses, bad idea to close, soon you will need a new turbo :)

and come on guys, lets stop the arguing

[wiseman]

iit's good for engine health ;and expensive;it cost 70euro in local tuner to close the egr
but it's bad for the ozone to close it,that's why it exist in the engines

I understand how and why an Egr is in an engine, reduces the amount of NOx the combustion generates. Obviously venting exhaust gasses away from the turbine side of the turbo wil make the compressor spoll up slower which is bad for a good tuned file


BTW Did i sucessfully close the egr in that dump i posted?

[bazare]

Hey again my friend G. Tell me if EGT is the same while you close the EGR. Whatever stupidity you may say EGT will increase considerably. If you don't touch lambda because you think it's perfectly calibrated tell me one more thing ... why the hell do you modify smoke limiter in edc15? It's also perfectly calibrated. Before telling us more stupid things THINK TWICE!!! This is not kindergarten where everyone can have a hilarious opinion. And maybe this time you will find the correct factor for lambda map, search on google because you know S**T about how lambda works in diesel cars! THIS IS NOT PETROL!!!

[rappttor]

in fact, the main reason to waste EGR started from the engines with vnt turbos a while ago, simply because it has a bad influence on turbos vnt and intake chanel and it can be observed almost in every car wich runs mostly in the town, and the driver uses a low rpm regim (underrun). this is the main reason for turbo clogging. just closing in the egr valve for power reasons in basic mods in my opinion it is not the way to do it. almost everybody in this forum wich requested to turn off egr has a problem with it, but i dont think they analized why, they just choose the simple and easier way: CLOSE IT!

if you close it for power option the gain is there but not so big to feel the difference, and if it is not done properly the car will eat more fuel.

the reasons why is so are verry simple and you cand find them here Google (http://www.google.com) :laugh:

[wiseman]

it's my secret weapen matte:santaclaus:

EFIlive.....:proud:

[del635]

I dont know how many times Ive posted this on here in detail but changing injection times/decalibration causes fuel to be injected after tdc, now thats a real way to increase egt..............