Passthru is the future?

[sNoo]

There is not so many messages or threads about it, but i want to know some different opinions about passthru interface usability? For example there is a possibility to buy one single cable, that plugs into USB, and use it with original diagnostics software.
Is it true that such cable is possible to use with General Motors GDS2 for full diagnostics?

[gtmech]

There is not so many messages or threads about it, but i want to know some different opinions about passthru interface usability? For example there is a possibility to buy one single cable, that plugs into USB, and use it with original diagnostics software.
Is it true that such cable is possible to use with General Motors GDS2 for full diagnostics?

what is Passthru mate?

[doslamer]

Example -> J2534 Pass-Thru Programming Tool for BMW (http://www.engstrom.net/J2534-Pass-Thru-Interface-for-BMW-p/pcr-8707-bmw.htm) <-

[lockbreaker]

Yes, but you have to have a web subscription with the manufacturer to utilise proprietary diagnostic factory functions, which is somewhat cost prohibitive.

When I say somewhat cost prohibitive, I mean very expensive.

[sNoo]

sometimes you can buy a subscription for a few days. and the price is normal.
I'll repeat my question, is there a possibility to use such device, i'll say cable with GM GDS2, because i heard something, but not sure about it. Maybe somebody will have an information...

Cheers

[uhaulkid]

sometimes you can buy a subscription for a few days. and the price is normal.
I'll repeat my question, is there a possibility to use such device, i'll say cable with GM GDS2, because i heard something, but not sure about it. Maybe somebody will have an information...

Cheers
theres no ONE CABLE to fix them all per say...no one would make money that way.....as far as cable and gds2? first why you worring about gds2, most all under warranty for while now...next i use the GM MDI ( NO CLONE with GDS2) so i cant say if there is a cable that will work. im sure it will comeout and maybe fully compatiable maybe limited fetures....my thoughts are if your going to work on this or any make or odel with any amount of consistincy then but the REAL DEAL pay for the subscrptions and do it right. if you buy junk your gonna have long hard road.....its your income why change it...thats like buying rebuilt waterpump for.20 less then new one when it pays 10 hours labor to change, no sence there....as far as the subscrption fee...charge it back to cyustmer...when i access gm tis or ford tis toyta chrylser vis my OEM witech system....I charge the customer for it under info access fee...i get few questions or complaints...my answers most always if you want me to fix it right and fast and good price the first time i need to have what the OEMS have and that costs money, thats whty the guy down the street couldnt fix it after charging you three tims and still same problem....after that as long as the cars fixed right and the price is good...they will be customer always and not question the 5 or 10 bucks for OEM info....good luck

[lockbreaker]

My point was not one or two manufacturers subscriptions, it was All with a single pass thru. Some charge by the day, some the week, some a month, some a year. No two ways about that.
To answer the original question, yes, passthru is the future, but for now unless you are doing mostly nothing but diagnostic work, it can be seriously cost prohibitive.

I have mounds of scan tools, and do heaps of work, but very rarely see the need for the dealer network...not just yet at least.
Next year or in 5, perhaps. Depends on your battles I suppose.

[sNoo]

theres no ONE CABLE to fix them all per say...no one would make money that way.....as far as cable and gds2? first why you worring about gds2, most all under warranty for while now...next i use the GM MDI ( NO CLONE with GDS2) so i cant say if there is a cable that will work. im sure it will comeout and maybe fully compatiable maybe limited features....

i found some information and it was shock! as i recall MDI costs around 2-3K$, but there is a cable which costs only 450EUR and already has a possibility to work with GDS2 with full capabilities. And it's not chinese, and it is approved by GM.
In my opinion it already should be present, not future.



... I have mounds of scan tools, and do heaps of work, but very rarely see the need for the dealer network...not just yet at least. Next year or in 5, perhaps.
Yep, i understand, but as uhaulkid said "if you want me to fix it right and fast and good price the first time i need to have what the OEMS have and that costs money...they will be customer always and not question the 5 or 10 bucks for OEM info..."

[drakov]

there is a cable which costs only 450EUR and already has a possibility to work with GDS2 with full capabilities. And it's not chinese, and it is approved by GM.

Which cable? as I think you have read it wrong.
To answer your question yes passthru IS the future (for now), but you will need more than one interface J2534, J2534-1, J2534-2 and so on as new protocols and features are added then updating/buying newer will also be needed, also Passthru in europe is only big in europe due to Euro5 legislation and only covers newest cars unlike in USA, but it's a step in the right direction I believe.

[sNoo]

Which cable? as I think you have read it wrong.
To answer your question yes passthru IS the future (for now), but you will need more than one interface J2534, J2534-1, J2534-2 and so on as new protocols and features are added then updating/buying newer will also be needed, also Passthru in europe is only big in europe due to Euro5 legislation and only covers newest cars unlike in USA, but it's a step in the right direction I believe.
absolutely agree with the last words. but i'm not joking, i found a cable, on some european site, the banner says it's possible to use it with gds2 with full capabilities, not only reflashing etc.
i don't know if it's ok to paste a link.

[drakov]

Yes you can paste the link

[sNoo]

Yes you can paste the link
Vehicle Diagnostics & Reprogramming (http://sigmabit.eu/diagnostic-equipment.html)
the banner from the right side says it. truth or not?

[AllansAutos]

The repliers are right. I too have multiple oem scanners with limited axcess to data bases allowing for down load of software or pass throught. Most scan tools have attached software upgrades/calibrations for most modules including ECU's & body functioning components. Unless your are specialising in diagnostic work, the costs would not be worth it. Europe industry has the right idea allowing axcess to web sites at a cost, allowing repairers axcess to continue repairing/programing.