Berlingo Remote

[snecii]

Hello!

I had change ID46 in 2002 Berlingo, now the remote does not work lexia see as an unknown plip. But the car start!
I tryed to teach it as it usual but not worked!

It is set to 069A in BSI setting but I cant change it. How to change it to else in lexia? It need a code....?

Coud it be the problem?

Please give a hand! Thanks

[snecii]

I did changed it! But in parameters it show as unrecognised plip only when it was 069A!

What else can I do? The car can see the key but I can't program it!

Somebody??????????????
Please help!

Thanks

[snecii]

Before I change ID46 the remote worked fine. How could it happen? Becouse I program a new chip?
What can I do now?

[autocrypto]

Hi,

In Citroen and Peugeot the remote is precoded with the transponder: the remote only work with the original transponder.

If you change the transponder the remote never work anymore. You need to put the original transponder in the remote shell and program the transponder again, then sincronize the remote and see if working.

[snecii]

Hi,

In Citroen and Peugeot the remote is precoded with the transponder: the remote only work with the original transponder.

If you change the transponder the remote never work anymore. You need to put the original transponder in the remote shell and program the transponder again, then sincronize the remote and see if working.

What is the differece between ID46 and citroen original ID46?
It is not solderd like Renault id46.

[nazz2]

I second that,as described in the thread above you,they have to be "matched".

[snecii]

I second that,as described in the thread above you,they have to be "matched".


The problem is:

this car has 2 keys, one with remote button and one without remote buttons! My customer changed the case of the remote key and he lost the immo chip. Now the car has only ONE original chip.
I did program a new ID46 and the old key too. Now the car start with booth of the keys but I cant program the remote.

Now I tryed that you sad! I changed the immo in the two keys and there was the ORIGINAL IMMO CHIP next to the remote buttons. I programed again the keys then I tryed to program the remote but still the same!

So what now!??

I tryed to change frekvency code but then the car doesnt see the remote key. If I stay as original the car see the remote as an anprogramed signal.
So tha CAR see the key I just has to program it!

But what is wrong?????

Thanks

[autocrypto]

The problem is:

this car has 2 keys, one with remote button and one without remote buttons! My customer changed the case of the remote key and he lost the immo chip. Now the car has only ONE original chip.
I did program a new ID46 and the old key too. Now the car start with booth of the keys but I cant program the remote.

Now I tryed that you sad! I changed the immo in the two keys and there was the ORIGINAL IMMO CHIP next to the remote buttons. I programed again the keys then I tryed to program the remote but still the same!

So what now!??

I tryed to change frekvency code but they the car doesnt see the remote key. If I stay as original the car see the remote as an anprogramed signal.
So tha CAR see the key I just has to program it!

But what is wrong?????

Thanks


Hi,

In a new PSA remote (with the transponder separated of the remote circuit) the transponder is matched in factory with the remote. When you program the transponder you also program the remote and the transponder and the remot work well. You never can separate the transponder and the remote, the remote only work with the transponder matched in factory.

Before or after you program the remote, if you separate the transponder for the remote, the remote never work again.

If you customer have lost the transponder is impossible to reprogram the remote.

Regards, :driver:

[snecii]

I have an UNLUCKED ID46 chip!

If I program it with Zedbull for Citroen Berlingo Then I program to car with PIN then will The REMOTE WORK????

[autocrypto]

I have an UNLUCKED ID46 chip!

If I program it with Zedbull for Citroen Berlingo Then I program to car with PIN then will The REMOTE WORK????

Hi,

:shot:NO.

Your customer have lost the transponder that have matched with the remote. I dont know any way to match the remote with another transponder. So, you cannot reprogram the remote with another transponder lock or unlock. Is clear to you?

Your customer need to buy a new remote.

If this post is useful to you, dont forget the thanks button.

Regards.

[snecii]

Yes! Thank You!

[snecii]

One more question!

If I buy a full key from autokeys.us,
It is a full key with remote and chip!

How will that work?

[autocrypto]

One more question!

If I buy a full key from autokeys.us,
It is a full key with remote and chip!

How will that work?

Hi,

You need to buy a original remote for Berlingo and confirm the remote reference with the VIN. If you buy in China, you dont know if the remote is wath you need or not. If you buy a wrong remote you can program the transponder, but the remote dont work, after programing you lock the transponder and you cannot program the transponder or the remote in any other car.

Regards

[juniormaxxx]

I cant belive they would do that shit, so Is there a way to program blank chip and remote, how to program remote

[davorOS]

only new remote with transponder that came in remote.

and need to be correct remote part No,

[m3m5]

i had the same problem in berlingo.

Chip start car but remote don't work.

Solved with new key and new transponder. Not original key from dealer but need specify year because change plip.

First add key with pin, then program plip.

[juniormaxxx]

Is this only on berlingo or other vehicles too

[neno11]

I think you can program new transponder to work with existing remote only by dump vehicle eeprom. There you have remote section in hitag2 which must be filled up when you program new PCF. If it's empty remote will not work.

[ninja123]

I think you can program new transponder to work with existing remote only by dump vehicle eeprom. There you have remote section in hitag2 which must be filled up when you program new PCF. If it's empty remote will not work.


can you explain more, if you know how to re use a used remote??

ninja

[juniormaxxx]

can you explain more, if you know how to re use a used remote??

ninja


yes I would like to know this tooo, i have AD900

[neno11]

here we talk about programming hitag2 transponder connected with working remote not reusing used remote from other car.
probably you can reuse remotes if you know transponder and remote datas from the dump of matched car. you can't change remotes memory because it's one time programmable at least at ten years old cars.
sorry for my english ninja... :wavey:

[juniormaxxx]

hmmmm hitag2 just like programming remotes on renault cards yes???

But how to know what are the values needed to write into remote....

[neno11]

yes, renault and many other cars. what values to write into transponder/remote you'll know from vehicle eeprom dump. to do that you must have eeprom programmer like omega, orange, codeX, zed prog etc. this is the manual way of matching. as i know locksmits usually use automated key programmers like ad100pro to match new remotes.

[ninja123]

I re use used key cards, they are hitag id46.
once upon a time, no one could do this.

peugeot/citroen remotes are hitag id46, there is a way, just not found it yet...............................


ninja

[weltune]

hello
i have a berlingo 1.6 hdi to change new BSI next week, the old bsi is damaged by water from the aircon, must i change a new key or i still can use the original old key? will the old transponder from the original remote key be program into the BSI? will the remote still work after programming? please advise, thanks in advance

[neno11]

Try to read immo eeprom from old BSI to see if it's good and write in new BSI eeprom or just swap eeproms. Otherwise, I think you can't use your old remote.

[coolsoda]

New Berlingo Remote key Hitag Pages

[pianoman58]

Coolsoda: did you keep the part number of the berlingo remote to go with the hitag info

[coolsoda]

Peugeot partner 6554V8 (Replaces 6554RG)

[weltune]

Try to read immo eeprom from old BSI to see if it's good and write in new BSI eeprom or just swap eeproms. Otherwise, I think you can't use your old remote.

tried swaping eeprom 95160 , van cannot start., use lexia to learn key, cannot learn due to transponder been lock, eeprom data is ok, i can calculate pin code using icc , use a new transponder van can start but remote cannot learn, any advise please

[coolsoda]

The PCF7936 must have the extra Data in the Hitag pages that links it to the remote

[neno11]

Your only solution to remote work is adding its old transponder. Don't know for Lexia but with SBB you just add transponder, locked as you said, it's ok, you can't precode transponder like new one, because is already precoded. Remote will work with old transponder.
How to precode new PCF7936 to existing remote work is the question that no one have answer or won't say.

[weltune]

Your only solution to remote work is adding its old transponder. Don't know for Lexia but with SBB you just add transponder, locked as you said, it's ok, you can't precode transponder like new one, because is already precoded. Remote will work with old transponder.
How to precode new PCF7936 to existing remote work is the question that no one have answer or won't say.

thanks, will try tomorrow with SBB

[urcarpc]

If the remote holds precode data to match transponder, then surely the remote will have a chip in it that can be virginised or replaced