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elchip
24th July, 2011, 11:23 PM
Hello to all if someone need here is how to.
After opening read 93C46 and recalibrate if you have rotor positioning error.
No more error in future ...

Here is picture :

72798

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acid1983
25th July, 2011, 08:31 AM
I recently had this error .... Do you have more information how to perform this calibration ??

elephantul
6th August, 2011, 05:49 PM
If you want to help, post full solution for this , thanks

elchip
6th August, 2011, 08:39 PM
If you want to help, post full solution for this , thanks

Yes I can do that in any moment but do anybody be in ?
Or many wait prepared solution and get all and not give nothing ...

I want any activity about that to give solution ...
Look little on DK my post history and see to I was do
many interesting thing and some fundamental help abou XprogM and many other tool's.

But if someone want 100% solution than maybe he is wrong...

Or maybe I am wrong ...who know

:questionmark:

Milkman
7th August, 2011, 09:50 AM
Here is "official" method to solve this problem.
Pass pm.

conti
13th August, 2011, 11:56 AM
Hello. Please send Pass.
Thank you very much in advance

elchip
13th August, 2011, 04:47 PM
I REMOVED SW - REASON IS NO ONE CONTRIBUTE WITH SOME NEW SW OR SIMILAR POST

Only " give me pass ....give me pass...." that is not good way , I was left to see is any new idea's but no..

So I am so sorry.

Admin can close trade.

Best regard's

rossoelab
14th August, 2011, 02:32 AM
elchip
I'm sorry but I disagree with your method ....
open new and interesting discussions, but always leaves in the middle .....
you are very prepared, but you are afraid to share, why?

elchip
14th August, 2011, 07:58 AM
Do you want full open share schematica from IAW tool ?
Or any better solution full opened for all user's ?
Or you will pass protect and send only to desired member pass ... ?



...

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samzhou
19th August, 2011, 05:12 PM
Hello. Please send Pass.
Thank you very much in advance web01@panshengstone.net

zeljolaki
20th August, 2011, 07:12 PM
Hello. Please send Pass.Thanks!

skycar
20th August, 2011, 07:27 PM
Hello. Please send Pass.
Thank you very much in advance

elchip
20th August, 2011, 08:09 PM
Do not ask pass if you not contribute these forum with useful trade in Garage section.

Best regard's

diimon
21st August, 2011, 08:04 PM
pass please
thanks

auto16
22nd August, 2011, 02:40 AM
apres qlq recherches jai trouv? ?a
La m?moire pompe (appel?e OSM) sur les pompes EPIC ph 2, sert de r?f?rence au calculateur pour des positions de rotor de d?bit et des positions du v?rin d'avance ? des r?gimes et T? bien d?finis.
Si pour une T? donn?e et un r?gime donn?, la position d'un des 2 actuateurs cit?s n'est pas ? sa place (exemple la position du rotor de d?bit ? 0?c), le calculateur d'injection en d?duit un d?faut grave sur la boucle de d?bit et emp?che la mont?e en r?gime pour des raisons de s?curit?. G?n?ralement le DF066 appara?t.
Il s'av?re que sur les EPIC Renault, le fait de faire tourner le rotor interne de la pompe via le d?marreur est suffisant pour que le rotor retrouve sa position m?moris?e dans l'OSM.
Pour ?viter ce probl?me 3 solutions existent:
* Faire une calibration de l'OSM de la pompe concernant le rotor de d?bit avec l'outil Lucas/Delphi en station ou un outil d?riv?.
* Interposer une cale de 0,25 mm en plus sur l'axe fix? sur le rotor de d?bit de pompe pour que celui-ci, p?n?tre un peu plus dans le capteur ? inductance variable afin de se trouver ? froid dans la valeur programm?e dans l'OSM voir sur dialogys la NT 4737A.
Evidemment, le fait de changer la pompe fait que l***8217;OSM sera ? nouveau modifi?e (par le nouvel OSM qui fait partie de la nouvelle pompe). Mais la solution est tr?s ch?re, en sachant qu***8217;une cale de 0,25 mm peut r?soudre ce probl?me.
* sur les pompes lucas( probl?me actuateur de debit de la pompe epic) il suffit de brancher le fil gris de la pompe sur le plus contact

comert50
22nd August, 2011, 07:25 AM
sifreyi nerden bulaca***287;***305;m

elchip
22nd August, 2011, 08:25 AM
>>> auto16 (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/81598-auto16/) <<<

Delete your inbox PM you cant receive PM.

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racin-snake
22nd August, 2011, 09:22 AM
can you send pass please guys ? thanking you

elchip
22nd August, 2011, 09:27 AM
can you send pass please guys ? thanking you

Read PM

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elchip
23rd August, 2011, 04:20 PM
sifreyi nerden bulaca***287;***305;m

Olamaz, sadece istenen bir ?yesi.

zeljolaki
29th August, 2011, 12:35 AM
apres qlq recherches jai trouv? ?a
La m?moire pompe (appel?e OSM) sur les pompes EPIC ph 2, sert de r?f?rence au calculateur pour des positions de rotor de d?bit et des positions du v?rin d'avance ? des r?gimes et T? bien d?finis.
Si pour une T? donn?e et un r?gime donn?, la position d'un des 2 actuateurs cit?s n'est pas ? sa place (exemple la position du rotor de d?bit ? 0?c), le calculateur d'injection en d?duit un d?faut grave sur la boucle de d?bit et emp?che la mont?e en r?gime pour des raisons de s?curit?. G?n?ralement le DF066 appara?t.
Il s'av?re que sur les EPIC Renault, le fait de faire tourner le rotor interne de la pompe via le d?marreur est suffisant pour que le rotor retrouve sa position m?moris?e dans l'OSM.
Pour ?viter ce probl?me 3 solutions existent:
* Faire une calibration de l'OSM de la pompe concernant le rotor de d?bit avec l'outil Lucas/Delphi en station ou un outil d?riv?.
* Interposer une cale de 0,25 mm en plus sur l'axe fix? sur le rotor de d?bit de pompe pour que celui-ci, p?n?tre un peu plus dans le capteur ? inductance variable afin de se trouver ? froid dans la valeur programm?e dans l'OSM voir sur dialogys la NT 4737A.
Evidemment, le fait de changer la pompe fait que l***8217;OSM sera ? nouveau modifi?e (par le nouvel OSM qui fait partie de la nouvelle pompe). Mais la solution est tr?s ch?re, en sachant qu***8217;une cale de 0,25 mm peut r?soudre ce probl?me.
* sur les pompes lucas( probl?me actuateur de debit de la pompe epic) il suffit de brancher le fil gris de la pompe sur le plus contact

Avez-vous une photo montrant comment le faire? Merci!

alfabit
29th August, 2011, 08:30 AM
Avez-vous une photo montrant comment le faire? Merci!

Ask milkman for the pass and read NT 4737 posted by him in post #5, it has full of photos ( drawings ).

Note technique NT 4737 postee de Milkman.
Plein de dessins m8 !

ciptel07
29th August, 2011, 09:48 AM
to solve error start from fuel pump is a renault kit with http://ro-en.ro/look.gif (http://ro-en.ro/index.php?d=e&x=connecting+nut)connecting nut (http://ro-en.ro/index.php?d=e&q=connecting+nut) >0,20mm< and int diam 5mm
Just you need to open head rotor sender, and open with a special key the rotor and put the new kit

ciptel07
29th August, 2011, 10:18 AM
QLQ jai after research found it
Pump memory (called OSM) on pumps EPIC ph 2, the computer serves as a reference for positions of rotor speed and position of the actuator in advance of the plans and defined T ?.
If for a given temp, and a particular plan, the position of one of the two actuators is not mentioned in its place (eg the position of the rotor speed at 0 ? c), the injection computer infers a default grave on the loop flow and prevents the increase in speed for safety reasons. DF066 generally appears.
It turns out that the EPIC Renault, is to rotate the inner rotor of the pump via the starter is sufficient for the rotor returns to its stored position in the MSO.
To avoid this problem three solutions:
* Make a calibration of the OSM of the pump rotor on the flow with the tool Lucas / Delphi station or a tool derived.
* Interpose a wedge 0.25 mm above the axis fixed on the rotor flow pump that it penetrates deeper into the variable inductance sensor to be cold in the value programmed in OSM Dialogys see the NT 4737A.
Obviously, the fact to change the fact that the pump *** 8217, OSM will be changed again (for the new OSM is part of the new pump). But the solution is very expensive, knowing that 8217 ***, a wedge of 0.25 mm can solve this problem.
* On pumps lucas (problem actuator epic flow of the pump) just connect the gray wire on the pump as contact

Campeiro
30th August, 2011, 02:55 PM
Pass Please

elecautocr
30th August, 2011, 09:45 PM
Hi elchip, could you send me the pass?, please

Thanks

elchip
30th August, 2011, 10:26 PM
Hi elchip, could you send me the pass?, please

Thanks

Look on Inbox ;-)
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zeca
31st August, 2011, 02:44 AM
hi
can you send me pass please thanks

zeljolaki
31st August, 2011, 08:57 PM
Hello Milkman!
Please send Pass.Thanks!

svaika71
31st August, 2011, 10:22 PM
Hello elchip,
could you send me the pass?,

Thanks

ADTS
31st August, 2011, 10:38 PM
Hi, im interested in this could i have pass please.
regards

mobileworks
31st August, 2011, 11:52 PM
hello please pass...thanks juan

mariazo84
1st September, 2011, 12:12 AM
hello pass please

elchip
1st September, 2011, 07:20 AM
Hello elchip,
could you send me the pass?,

Thanks


Read PM

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elchip
1st September, 2011, 07:27 AM
hello please pass...thanks juan

Read PM

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elecautocr
2nd September, 2011, 03:40 PM
Hi elchip,

I tested your values and it works fine fine fine!!!!:devil:

thanks a lot!!!:ciao:

elchip
2nd September, 2011, 06:18 PM
Hi elchip,

I tested your values and it works fine fine fine!!!!:devil:

thanks a lot!!!:ciao:

I wish you many good job's.

Regard's

:wink:
Here is Util to do automatic from DUMP.
My calibration and SW writen by one my friend from Lithuania ;-)

77946

Only for members who was posted good post's on DK !

Pass protected archive !

elecautocr
2nd September, 2011, 07:42 PM
Great!!!!!

Next EPIC pump will be easier to fix thanks to elchip!!!

Thanks

cavignac
2nd September, 2011, 08:26 PM
Here is "official" method to solve this problem.
Pass pm.

Please send Pass.
Thank you very much in advance

cavignac
2nd September, 2011, 08:29 PM
[QUOTE=elchip;1210311]Here is what is need to add to your DUMP 93C46 to expand calibration to max range.

75343

Please send Pass.
Thank you very much in advance

elchip
2nd September, 2011, 08:36 PM
cavignac (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/75374-cavignac/)

You have total post 79 and from 79 you have 99% " PASS PLEASE "

sorry no pass...

cavignac
2nd September, 2011, 08:50 PM
cavignac (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/75374-cavignac/)

You have total post 79 and from 79 you have 99% " PASS PLEASE "

sorry no pass...

dear sir
if I ask you the pass, that s not to see a movie, I have a problem with epic pomp of mercedes c220d
j I need your help

thank you

elchip
3rd September, 2011, 02:25 AM
dear sir
if I ask you the pass, that s not to see a movie, I have a problem with epic pomp of mercedes c220d
j I need your help

thank you

And better read name of my post.
That solution not work on MB , only Fiat and Renault.
After all if I was write to I don't give you pass then I will not.

That is all.

Regard's

monini64
3rd September, 2011, 04:10 AM
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monini64
3rd September, 2011, 04:18 AM
this file is for repair epic pump, escuse mi because it is in spanish (this is a explay to post 21)

monini64
3rd September, 2011, 04:53 AM
this is the file

cavignac
4th September, 2011, 02:21 PM
this is the file
Here is the English PDF
THANK YOU

elchip
4th September, 2011, 02:26 PM
Here is the English PDF
THANK YOU
All that not help in OSM sensor error and you only louse time....
I was investigate EPIC pump a 3 year to find how to do 100% correct so don't louse time M8.

Best regard's

cavignac
4th September, 2011, 08:59 PM
I do not claim that this PDF is the results of my research.
PDF is a document Oficial.
Excuse me, DK's they who judge whether or not is
THANK YOU
YOU WANT TO HELP ME
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWER
s the world does not stop because of this problem

elchip
4th September, 2011, 09:18 PM
I do not claim that this PDF is the results of my research.
PDF is a document Oficial.
Excuse me, DK's they who judge whether or not is
THANK YOU
YOU WANT TO HELP ME
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWER
s the world does not stop because of this problem

OK , you have full right.
I wish you a good job.

Regard's

morito
4th September, 2011, 11:26 PM
hi

can you help me whit pass?
many thanks in the advance

elchip
5th September, 2011, 07:16 AM
hi

can you help me whit pass?
many thanks in the advance


Look PM.

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cavignac
5th September, 2011, 07:45 PM
Here is what is need to add to your DUMP 93C46 to expand calibration to max range.

75343

Best regard's

pass please , thank you in advanced

elchip
5th September, 2011, 09:22 PM
pass please , thank you in advanced

Read your PM.

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Mario32
6th September, 2011, 12:07 AM
Can I have the pass to please..

Pepita
6th September, 2011, 04:43 AM
Please Epic diesel pump util password.
Thanks.

fhyeo77
8th September, 2011, 09:56 AM
hi,
Can you send me the pass please?

janusz21
8th September, 2011, 05:20 PM
Can you send me the pass

elchip
8th September, 2011, 06:54 PM
Please Epic diesel pump util password.
Thanks.

Read PM.

Regard's

elchip
8th September, 2011, 06:56 PM
Can you send me the pass

Read PM

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zeca
9th September, 2011, 03:26 AM
Can you send me the pass

monini64
9th September, 2011, 06:02 AM
Here is what is need to add to your DUMP 93C46 to expand calibration to max range.
Best regard's


can you give me a pass please?

Joe019
11th September, 2011, 09:33 AM
Hi elchip!

I send you a PM.

Thanks!

BR!

badisan
11th September, 2011, 12:07 PM
Hi elchip, could you send me the pass?, please

Thanks

Badisan

zeljolaki
14th September, 2011, 07:56 PM
Please password.Thanks!

Babanovski
14th September, 2011, 09:15 PM
Hi password please.
thanks in regard Zoran

zrr_immo
15th September, 2011, 12:37 PM
Please password.

Thanks

joubliss
17th September, 2011, 02:57 PM
we are all here to share what we found to help each other.


Job

elchip
17th September, 2011, 11:02 PM
we are all here to share what we found to help each other.


Job

Yes you have right but dump's from other pump dont help bealive me , I was spare almost 2 year to find solution.

Best regard's

robert54
17th September, 2011, 11:27 PM
elchip can you send pass.
Thanks

cavignac
17th September, 2011, 11:52 PM
we are all here to share what we found to help each other.


Job

hello
one question: the gray wire (+12 v constant), which feeds on the pump?
pumps epic mercedes c220d like pumps epic renault kongo 1.9d ?
like pumps = like solutions
yes :party:
no :bawling:
thank you

khalcdi
18th September, 2011, 09:46 AM
please ELCHIP paseeword.

thanks in advance

tinchocbr
23rd September, 2011, 01:52 PM
Here is what is need to add to your DUMP 93C46 to expand calibration to max range.

75343

Best regard's
First thanks for upload the file. :party:
please need the pass, becouse i have kangoo only star if press acelerator.

nicamarcos
23rd September, 2011, 02:48 PM
@elchip, can i have pass from your files?

nicamarcos
24th September, 2011, 12:10 AM
@elchip, hey mate! is nice have you in my skype list ;)

elchip
24th September, 2011, 09:03 AM
@elchip, hey mate! is nice have you in my skype list ;)

It is my pleasure too mate...

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ammarben
24th September, 2011, 12:24 PM
dear Elchip nice to you if you send me the pass
i think you have not received my request in PM yet

elchip
24th September, 2011, 09:25 PM
dear Elchip nice to you if you send me the pass
i think you have not received my request in PM yet

Read your PM better ;-)

antibisic
25th September, 2011, 04:19 PM
Hi, can I get a pass too?Thanks

eugen8
25th September, 2011, 04:57 PM
hi mate,please pass

Babanovski
25th September, 2011, 07:54 PM
Hi, please pass

elchip
25th September, 2011, 10:51 PM
Babanovski sorry...

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jarripote
28th September, 2011, 03:34 AM
Hi Elchip, could you send me the password? Thanks :top:

vladgsm1
28th September, 2011, 07:18 AM
please ELCHIP password
thanks

aktiv22
1st October, 2011, 08:14 AM
I wish you many good job's.

Regard's

:wink:
Here is Util to do automatic from DUMP.
My calibration and SW writen by one my friend from Lithuania ;-)

77946

Only for members who was posted good post's on DK !

Pass protected archive !
hi
can you give the password please?
thanks

jonniebravo
1st October, 2011, 11:35 PM
is it possible for me to get that pass??

dizil
3rd October, 2011, 08:02 PM
Please password.

Thanks

neriuks007
4th October, 2011, 06:51 AM
please password

thanks

drakov
6th October, 2011, 08:16 AM
Thread closed at OP's request