cummins egr hp re-program

[will12345]

hi all,
not sure if any one here can help me but worth a go.
alright i have just bought a late 2010 kenworth T408SAR
to pull doubles up the hwy it has about 100,000 k's and no power everything mech wise is great just running a 525hp program with 1850fpt any one have a program with a little more hp and 2050 fpt dont wanna go to high coz it already runs warm as it is any help would be appreiciated

many thanks in advance

great forum guys keep up the good work!:wink:

[dieselman77]

cummins just post the CPL # off the tag on top of the motor on the driver side and somone can tell you what the max horsepower is without blowing it up. Also if it is under warranty then you will want to take it to the dealer to have it turned up unless you dont care about the warranty or it is expired. have a good day is it isx or ism ?

[zandokan]

this post sounds interesting:hmmmm2:

[will12345]

Sorry guys been offline for a while flat out every where
as to the CPL number it is 2965
any help or assistance would be soooooo welcomed

[jctech]

Sorry guys been offline for a while flat out every where
as to the CPL number it is 2965
any help or assistance would be soooooo welcomed

For that CPL you can have 450, 485, 500, 525, 550 and 600 HP @2000rpm ratings ranging from 1650 to 2050 lb.ft, torque @1200 rpm.

[jctech]

Here are the Australian cals, unzip into the C/Intelect/Insite/Calibration workspace folder.

[will12345]

For that CPL you can have 450, 485, 500, 525, 550 and 600 HP @2000rpm ratings ranging from 1650 to 2050 lb.ft, torque @1200 rpm.

Hi jctech,
Have you had any experience with these motors in the kenworth T408SAR if so what would you recommend keeping in mind the over heating could easily become an issue.

If not I guess I would probably start with the 525 with 2050fpt then move on too 550 with 1850fpt and then 550 with 2050fpt just to be on the safe side I guess

[will12345]

Also if some 1 could tell me how I can download/save the current ECM program so that if there are any issues I can return it to it's current position.

Thanks in advance

[toshor]

Also if some 1 could tell me how I can download/save the current ECM program so that if there are any issues I can return it to it's current position.

Thanks in advance
Becarful the cooling system is small in them I have the same trouble with the cats 550hp would be the max and if it is a fleet truck leave it STD drivers don't watch gauges

[jctech]

Also if some 1 could tell me how I can download/save the current ECM program so that if there are any issues I can return it to it's current position.

Thanks in advance
When yo connect to the ECM with insite, the first thing you want to do is save a Job Image, if you Insite is not set up to do this automatically, click on work orders, then File- new-job image. You now have a record of all the feature and parameter settings, with a Job Image you can view all the settings, faults etc at a later date, you can also create a template to easily load these back into the ECM.
You are already at 525/1850, the 550/1850 cal is not going to give you anything at 1200 rpm, but will have a bit more at 2000 rpm.
Ensure that the box for save and restore is ticked during all re-calibrations.
Take a note of your current ECM calibration, it should be one of the ones I sent you (AV10081). To get back to Standard, recalibrate the ECM with the original calibration code, with save and restore features and parameters box ticked. If you inadvertantly loose the features and parameters, create and download a template into the ECM.

[jctech]

Hi jctech,
Have you had any experience with these motors in the kenworth T408SAR if so what would you recommend keeping in mind the over heating could easily become an issue.

If not I guess I would probably start with the 525 with 2050fpt then move on too 550 with 1850fpt and then 550 with 2050fpt just to be on the safe side I guess

Check the torque rating of the transmission before putting a 2050 lb.ft. cal in the engine.

[will12345]

Very good thanks for all your help so far but can you tell me where I can find the torque rating for the transmission.
It's not a fleet truck it's the 1 I drive so I just want a little better performance from it without cooking the motor

[toshor]

Very good thanks for all your help so far but can you tell me where I can find the torque rating for the transmission.
It's not a fleet truck it's the 1 I drive so I just want a little better performance from it without cooking the motor
u need the model of the trans best look on the trans itself may be some one change from factory there will be a plate on the side starting with RT****** then check the eaton web site for details hope this helps

[Thecell]

When yo connect to the ECM with insite, the first thing you want to do is save a Job Image, if you Insite is not set up to do this automatically, click on work orders, then File- new-job image. You now have a record of all the feature and parameter settings, with a Job Image you can view all the settings, faults etc at a later date, you can also create a template to easily load these back into the ECM.
You are already at 525/1850, the 550/1850 cal is not going to give you anything at 1200 rpm, but will have a bit more at 2000 rpm.
Ensure that the box for save and restore is ticked during all re-calibrations.
Take a note of your current ECM calibration, it should be one of the ones I sent you (AV10081). To get back to Standard, recalibrate the ECM with the original calibration code, with save and restore features and parameters box ticked. If you inadvertantly loose the features and parameters, create and download a template into the ECM.

Big Help, Thanks...

[pbateman]

Will12345 you can also find the torque rating on Insite in the features and parameters. That will tell you what ft. lbs your torque is set at.

[will12345]

Alright cool thanks all I'll let you know how it goes

[spannermonkey]

SAR's have really small radiators in them are pretty prone to running hot specially if ya pulling heavy or climbing lots of hills... but in an interesting thought you maybe better going for 600hp and not using it all, that way the it should run cooler and also fuel consumption will be better than a 525 or 550 ringing its neck, ive seen a few trials runing signatures at 580 and 620 and at 620 the engine gets about .2km/l better pulling same load, if its using less fuel and not working as hard it should run cooler... just something to think about... if its ya own truck your gunna look after it and be gentle so not too much worry with bumping it up, as long as the gearbox and diffs can handle it... but saying that seeing the difference a between 565/580 and 620 id never put a driver in a truck at 620!! goodluck hope you manage to get a good run out if it...

[angel suero]

i need someone who can give me info about the metafiles of calterm lll

[jctech]

i need someone who can give me info about the metafiles of calterm lll

wrong thread, look in the calterm thread.

[will12345]

Might give it a go I'll let you know about the results.
1 more thing while poking around on the tag with the cpl 2965 it also says 525 max hp
Is this just a warning or what?

[jctech]

Might give it a go I'll let you know about the results.
1 more thing while poking around on the tag with the cpl 2965 it also says 525 max hp
Is this just a warning or what?

That is for the calibration in the engine at the time of engine build dyno test.
obviously if you uprate or derate the engine that HP figure will change

[will12345]

1 more thing is there any of these programs that will give me more rev's say 2150 or is 2031 gonna be the best

[jctech]

1 more thing is there any of these programs that will give me more rev's say 2150 or is 2031 gonna be the best

For CPL2965, 2000 RPM is the best you'll get

[justme84]

What factors do I need to consider when doing a HP uprate as far as Cal files go, I have a customer wanting to bump up a CM871 from 525 to 600, CPL 3320. Do I need to consider the FR, DO,SC Option? Or just engine model and CPL. (As well as the obvious Transmission and Cooling system? It currently has the AV10141, im thinking AV10143?

[mikeysformula]

What factors do I need to consider when doing a HP uprate as far as Cal files go, I have a customer wanting to bump up a CM871 from 525 to 600, CPL 3320. Do I need to consider the FR, DO,SC Option? Or just engine model and CPL. (As well as the obvious Transmission and Cooling system? It currently has the AV10141, im thinking AV10143?

Do you have those Calibrations? Are you willing to post them? I would really like to have any CM871 that you are willing to share. Thanks.

[jctech]

What factors do I need to consider when doing a HP uprate as far as Cal files go, I have a customer wanting to bump up a CM871 from 525 to 600, CPL 3320. Do I need to consider the FR, DO,SC Option? Or just engine model and CPL. (As well as the obvious Transmission and Cooling system? It currently has the AV10141, im thinking AV10143?

Only CPL and cooling and drivetrain, FR and SC will be different with the new cal anyway.
AV10144 has more torque.

[justme84]

Only CPL and cooling and drivetrain, FR and SC will be different with the new cal anyway.
AV10144 has more torque.

Thanks for the help, yes I seen the AV10144 has more torque, but I think he only has an 1850 transmission so its probably safest to stay with the AV10143.

[justme84]

Do you have those Calibrations? Are you willing to post them? I would really like to have any CM871 that you are willing to share. Thanks.

Yes, I have the calibrations, I'd be more than happy to share if you need them, but if you do a quick seach you should be able to locate the latest Incal DVD which would give you all the calibrations you want. Let me know....

[Thecell]

Yes, I have the calibrations, I'd be more than happy to share if you need them, but if you do a quick seach you should be able to locate the latest Incal DVD which would give you all the calibrations you want. Let me know....

Justme,

Do you have any ecfg files for calterm as well?

Thanks m8

[jdawg]

SAR's have really small radiators in them are pretty prone to running hot specially if ya pulling heavy or climbing lots of hills... but in an interesting thought you maybe better going for 600hp and not using it all, that way the it should run cooler and also fuel consumption will be better than a 525 or 550 ringing its neck, ive seen a few trials runing signatures at 580 and 620 and at 620 the engine gets about .2km/l better pulling same load, if its using less fuel and not working as hard it should run cooler... just something to think about... if its ya own truck your gunna look after it and be gentle so not too much worry with bumping it up, as long as the gearbox and diffs can handle it... but saying that seeing the difference a between 565/580 and 620 id never put a driver in a truck at 620!! goodluck hope you manage to get a good run out if it...
thats an excellent point but everyone likes the power and wont back outta it. just my two cents.

[dread]

hi all,
not sure if any one here can help me but worth a go.
alright i have just bought a late 2010 kenworth T408SAR
to pull doubles up the hwy it has about 100,000 k's and no power everything mech wise is great just running a 525hp program with 1850fpt any one have a program with a little more hp and 2050 fpt dont wanna go to high coz it already runs warm as it is any help would be appreiciated

many thanks in advance

great forum guys keep up the good work!:wink:

I had a similar problem but it turned out to be the fuel pump but there was no fault code 2215. The fault code then appeared after a while...

Reason:
Fuel Pump Delivery Pressure - Data Valid But Below Normal Operating Range - Moderately Severe Level. Low fuel pressure has been detected by the ECM.

Effects:
Engine may not start, emit white smoke, run rough, or lose power.

i hope this helps:idea: