Honda Accord 2002 Pinout

[mojomojo]

Can someone help me locate the chip needed to read the odo. Thx. I have included some pictures.

[dashradio]

Here you are, try this

[raf0468]

take dials off to see your eemprom...

[mojomojo]

I was trying to avoid taking off the needles. What epprom is it? 93c56l? So when I use my X'pro to read it. thanks

[raf0468]

no need to remove needle the whole motor and dialcard pull out of their sockets, should be c56 dill eeprom..

if no eeprom then it is hc05 processor ....a bit more difficult to tackle if you dont have the experience..

good luck..

[dashradio]

Yes, C56 dil as shown in picture, short crystal 2 pins at side of micro will read on board with most programmers

[digimile]

hi
take the drive bulb out from the pcb else when u fit after programming it get burn.
Thankx

[martij976]

Can someone help me locate the chip needed to read the odo. Thx. I have included some pictures.

Look like accord V6... Need to read motorola HC05...

[tranzavanza]

Look like accord V6... Need to read motorola HC05...

I agree,

this is not a C56 or C46.

All V6 accord have motorola inside.

No need to take needles off Pry out the board from the white housing if you want...

Hard to read unless you do it with USAPROG -CLUSTER PLUG-

Good luck.

[martij976]

Actually it's really easy to read this particular mcu. U don't need lift any pins unlike 98-99 model. Of course u have to use proper tool. I heard an rumor about problems with UPA and those kind of chips. I have UPA, but i never tried it on those. I always use CARPROG. Job is done in same time as an ordinary eeprom onboard.
cheers

[mojomojo]

This came off a V4. Can I go ahead and read it with my xprog onboard without having to short the crystal?

[mojomojo]

Also who makes these epproms bc I need to pick it on my xprog? (ie at93c56, fm93c56?)

[martij976]

This came off a V4. Can I go ahead and read it with my xprog onboard without having to short the crystal?

ok there is no V4 anywhere.. it's either straight 4 or V6..
... bottom line is.. THERE IS NO 93C56 EEPROM !
kapito?:shot:

[mojomojo]

Ok is this the hc05 I need to read?

[tranzavanza]

That is the one sir.

Remember: from 98-02 Accord 4 Cyl is 93c46 or 93c56.
6 Cyl is always micro

[mojomojo]

Anyone fimliar with maskset 0d54j? that is what I have curently. but after doing some research I found that it should be 3d33j. I can not find 0d54 in my xprog

[mojomojo]

Ok I found this. can someone please tranlate?

[dashradio]

Anyone fimliar with maskset 0d54j? that is what I have curently. but after doing some research I found that it should be 3d33j. I can not find 0d54 in my xprog


Mate they are sending you around in circles here, refer back to my posts 2 and 6,
you have a 93C56 Dil chip here. 100%
Here is a picture of the chip from the other side of the board, if your not sure just lift the board slightly, shine a torch in and you will see the Dil chip.

[bender]

Mate they are sending you around in circles here, refer back to my posts 2 and 6,
you have a 93C56 Dil chip here. 100%
Here is a picture of the chip from the other side of the board, if your not sure just lift the board slightly, shine a torch in and you will see the Dil chip.

This is the other side. Not yours. Your picture is from
different cluster.

see the different of the gauges pins. your pic is a male pins &
the other is a female. see the arrows marking, completely off.

[martij976]

Thanks man! There is motorola! dashradio is 100% wrong!
Just from seeing first picture i know.. did about 50 of them..
Thanks

[martij976]

Anyone fimliar with maskset 0d54j? that is what I have curently. but after doing some research I found that it should be 3d33j. I can not find 0d54 in my xprog

Just read it as 3d33j.... should work just fine... Those are same chips, but olny in different package.... which need correct connections...

[mojomojo]

Thanks for all who helped.. I just got my programer back from repair. This was a hc05 not the epprom. special thanks martij976 (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/192315-martij976/)
I have included more pics for archives.

[tranzavanza]

Is that USA-PROG???
If so, why aren't you using the CMM ADAPTER 4 cables on the plug and done.

[digimile]

hi
i think he has datasmart 3 and don't have usa CMM adapter ??
Maybe he like to make job harder ??
Thankx

[mojomojo]

I tried cmm but didnt work. I have usa prog, digimile. I think cmm works for the dashes that need 93c56 read and not the hc05.

[khalilo814]

your dash is 93c56 i have done one before from honda accord V4

[tranzavanza]

Here we go again:stupido3:

[ledojo]

Anyhow... Since this is the hc05, Has anyone tried reading with UPA? I cant seem to get it to work. Also, I tried Digimaster II but that didnt work either... I cannot read this for some reason.

I've lifted pins but now going to lay them all down and try again....

[digimile]

hi
i do hc05 with upa only 4 wires and it always work and read write all ok.
I connect RX,TX, Gnd, and +5 v and read and modify and write all work ok
thankx

[luis12]

Carprog makes it direct.

[ledojo]

Carprog makes it direct.

Yes, I know, but I dont have carprog... argh.

[ledojo]

hi
i do hc05 with upa only 4 wires and it always work and read write all ok.
I connect RX,TX, Gnd, and +5 v and read and modify and write all work ok
thankx

Do you lift anything? I want to try this to see--only four? crazy....

Also, anyone try this with digimaster II (digimaster2, dm2, dmII, digimaster 2)? I cant get it to do anything....

[ledojo]

hi
i do hc05 with upa only 4 wires and it always work and read write all ok.
I connect RX,TX, Gnd, and +5 v and read and modify and write all work ok
thankx

Can you give me a little more help? I can't determine which would be the Receive or Transmit pins.... What about Reset? and Interrupt? Lift either? Both? Or, since youre only connecting the four, leave them down? Not sure how this will work, but I'm willing to give it a go....

Oh, and, I have never been able to read any mcu onboard with upa... But, to remove this mcu is going to be hard....

Another thing... the crystal on this board has three legs and no freq markings... If I remove the mcu and i use this crystal, do i short one of the legs? What freq if I use another crystal?

argh.

[martij976]

RX is #8 (P2 on UPA) and TX is #10 (P3)
Don't lift anything..
I'm wondering, if that will work.
Let us know...

[ledojo]

RX is #8 (P2 on UPA) and TX is #10 (P3)
Don't lift anything..
I'm wondering, if that will work.
Let us know...

I am curious also. It would be crazy if all that is needed are those four lines. IMAGINE! I've been trying to do all these other leads but I only needed four? argh.

Will update in about 12 hours (when I get back in shop). I have two of these clusters right now.... If this works, it would be great!

[digimile]

hi
i didnot lift any pin.just give a try...
Thankx

[martij976]

Just have an older (98) (52pins) HC05 on the bench and tried it with UPA as digimile suggested. Just four wires, externally powered up the UPA and it goes on first shot. Usually using carprog and have to lift VSS (on those 52pin chip) and connect nine wires... Thanks digimile!
Well next time will try carprog with those four wires... Let U know :)

[ledojo]

I got busy... will try tomorrow and post... excited to hear this.

[martij976]

It will work! (Hope u have an orig upa!!!)

[digimile]

hi
so what is the result using my way...
Thankx

[martij976]

hi
so what is the result using my way...
Thankx


Worked for me perfect. Thanks!

[ledojo]

No joy. I tried externally powering pcb also--same result.
This is what I have wired up:
P2 to pin10
P3 to pin8
P5 to pin58
P9 to pin20

Maybe I have something wrong?

[martij976]

No joy. I tried externally powering pcb also--same result.
This is what I have wired up:
P2 to pin10
P3 to pin8
P5 to pin58
P9 to pin20

Maybe I have something wrong?

As soon as possible i will try that newer (00-02) cluster by my self...
For curiosity...

[ledojo]

I still have the 01-02 V6.... If you have suggestions, I'm willing to try. Also have an '00 (or '99?) V6 cluster with the 52-pin. I want to be able to read onboard with these... DMII wiring is complicated any way I look at it.

[digimile]

hi
yes i also try on 52 pin mcu's and always work perfect u can try also.
Thankx

[ledojo]

hi
yes i also try on 52 pin mcu's and always work perfect u can try also.
Thankx

nvm... works....

[digimile]

hi
ledojo is it work???
thankx

[ledojo]

yes. all exactly as you said.
Thank you for the help--a big help. (i've added to your rep as much as poss)

oh, and thanks to my friend, martij976, his help is always welcome and right on time!

[martij976]

Thanks ledojo! Nice to hear that!!

So i have another 52 pin chip on my bench and read it with carprog, using just these four wires.. As digimile suggested.
It works just fine! So both devices (carprog and UPA) can use those connections.. Good to know. Thanks again digimile :o)

[ledojo]

I tried both 52pin and 64pin... just to test. Both worked. Good job, digimile.

[XmoDDeR]

hi
i do hc05 with upa only 4 wires and it always work and read write all ok.
I connect RX,TX, Gnd, and +5 v and read and modify and write all work ok
thankx


do you have picure of connects?

[visavis88]

in case someone might be still looking...
535403

[Armando66811]

the best final of the class :congrats::congrats::congrats::congrats: