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T72
29th October, 2011, 07:11 PM
Hello members,

DimSport vs Alientech? Can you give me some minds?

And where is the best chip tuning school for money?

thanks

ducatisti
30th October, 2011, 12:26 PM
Dimsport dont reply and alientech are rude !

EVC witout doubt or swiftec

grinovsky
30th October, 2011, 12:55 PM
one of the best chiptuning school for money:
L'ECOLE DE LA PERFORMANCE NOGARO (http://www.ecoleperformance.com/pageseminaire.html)

Stanton
30th October, 2011, 02:25 PM
Tech support from Dimsport is ok, but you will need a very big budget to survive with them....they charge for everything.
If you have their Race software, the setting files are euro80 each, and usually very poor/inaccurate.
They have got it sewn up do everything is chargeable.

Alientech V2 and either swiftec or winOLS would be a good package.

As always it depends on budget....

scs-mem
30th October, 2011, 03:32 PM
Whats Stanton wrote is right 100%.

maglaras
30th October, 2011, 03:41 PM
i you start but you olways make but tuning
the best off all is win olls BUTT
you must speand a lot of time in this programa to now how is make it work and to now how the ecu work
the ecm and dim sport is good put not for very good tuning
if you learn win ols all the aders is just a game

T72
30th October, 2011, 04:40 PM
Tech support from Dimsport is ok, but you will need a very big budget to survive with them....they charge for everything.
If you have their Race software, the setting files are euro80 each, and usually very poor/inaccurate.
They have got it sewn up do everything is chargeable.

Alientech V2 and either swiftec or winOLS would be a good package.

As always it depends on budget....
"setting files" is it tuned dumps from other cars?

about prices, New Genius(1500e+2990e cars/bikes) a litle bit more expensive than KESSv2(1400e+2500e cars/bikes)

masterb
30th October, 2011, 04:45 PM
Hi,
Subscribton for One year is for newgenius 2000e. Alientech kess will habe 600e / anno.
So Genius is expensiv Tool... If it is so much better ....

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jolidj
30th October, 2011, 05:44 PM
dimsport , suport and quality.
100%%

T72
30th October, 2011, 08:03 PM
OptiCan + Swiftec

what do you think friends?

masterb
30th October, 2011, 08:15 PM
Come on...dont be stuped.and buy optican.
Work very slow and long time no Updates....

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Stanton
30th October, 2011, 08:35 PM
"setting files" is it tuned dumps from other cars?

about prices, New Genius(1500e+2990e cars/bikes) a litle bit more expensive than KESSv2(1400e+2500e cars/bikes)

No the setting files are definition files for the hex dump, so they give maps and axis data. You must also purchase before you can even open the ecu software in race.
But they are often wrong and nearly always lack axis definition....usually just "load" versus rpm....which is limiting in their self.
The hardware is fine, new genius is a great tool, but race is a joke if you want to tube properly. I sold my full dimsport master setup last year due to it's limitations, however if evc had the genius plug in back the. I would have probably kept it.

florinyes
30th October, 2011, 08:49 PM
I haven't got one but after reading months.. Swiftech is the easiest to use, good tech back up.

Was gonna get it myself but not doing enough tuning to justify so just buy files..

Hope it helps!

Tachotony
30th October, 2011, 09:44 PM
I have BS master for you send PM

regards T

Stanton
30th October, 2011, 09:46 PM
I sold dimsport and bought Swiftec ;)

Worlds apart in every way....

T72
2nd November, 2011, 10:33 AM
I decide to buy New Genius + Swiftec
New Genius is not PC based, so will been cloned in last row! Price the same like Kess2, just one year subscription is 1200e.

Thanks to all members!

Stanton
2nd November, 2011, 11:02 AM
To buy New Genius, you need DIMSPORTS OWN Race software, which is another 4000e or there abouts. or from what I see EVC do a plug-in to use with winOLS....BUT CHECK YOU DONT NEED RACE FOR THIS AS DIMSPORT WONT TELL YOU TIL YOU ORDER.....this is what they are like :)

grinovsky
2nd November, 2011, 12:42 PM
I decide to buy New Genius + Swiftec
New Genius is not PC based, so will been cloned in last row! Price the same like Kess2, just one year subscription is 1200e.

Thanks to all members!
if you decide to buy swiftec,buy a full swiftec with all checksum

maucontacto
2nd November, 2011, 01:19 PM
I?m working with DimSport for a long time and just can say that their hardware is ok but all the rest is a joke!!! We pay for a setting file that usually give us a bad and dangerous information. THEY NEVER CORRECT IT!! I?m waiting since the beginning for answer that never came. I think that i?m always teaching that company.

BR

maglaras
6th November, 2011, 10:29 PM
I decide to buy New Genius + Swiftec
New Genius is not PC based, so will been cloned in last row! Price the same like Kess2, just one year subscription is 1200e.

Thanks to all members!

hello again
if you need to make good tuning and you need to have a solousion when you have a problem by byteshooter or friling
i have not clone kees - genius and after a lot of spend of money i take byte shooter for me is the best and the better is you dont need to give money evry year
the new tools that i show and i dont now is the mag prog2 a frieand of me say me that is good and make good job
butttt:listen::listen::listen: i dont have work if it is like kess1 that i have original master is not good

masterb
26th November, 2011, 03:13 PM
@T72
and did you buy yet a new tool ?

T72
26th November, 2011, 05:54 PM
@T72
and did you buy yet a new tool ?
yes!

Kess2, Ktag and Swiftec

grinovsky
26th November, 2011, 06:54 PM
good luck m8
http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/16/03/79/30/ktag10.jpg

T72
26th November, 2011, 10:38 PM
good luck m8
http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/16/03/79/30/ktag10.jpg


thanks! I will need luck :party:
on December will go to basic cours in Alientech, must make the foundations!

Stanton
27th November, 2011, 08:32 PM
Wouldn't you be better going to see Alex and Manuel to learn their software on one of their courses, rather than how to use hardware??

grinovsky
27th November, 2011, 09:00 PM
thanks! I will need luck :party:
on December will go to basic cours in Alientech, must make the foundations!
you will never need luck m8
you will be one of the best tuner in the world soon
welcome to the world of chiptuning:beer:
for me, some one have call me and ask me if i am interested to teatch chiptuning for his student in his school,
i think i will accept

bazare
27th November, 2011, 10:20 PM
Please, please can I be your student also so you can be my master for chiptuning? Please master, please?

Best joke heard in ages:beheaded:

Stanton
27th November, 2011, 11:18 PM
Sarcasm seams to be lost in translation for me!!!!!

lolooo1981
27th November, 2011, 11:37 PM
woowww !
War of tuners i see in my crystalball ! lol
Peace at all !

Regards

T72
28th November, 2011, 11:56 AM
Wouldn't you be better going to see Alex and Manuel to learn their software on one of their courses, rather than how to use hardware??
yes, but now I need the foundations, I need basic knowlage... later I will go to Vcpowerteam too...

Stanton
28th November, 2011, 04:22 PM
If you have NO knowledge of engine operation and basic principles, then you are wasting your time by taking a course on tuning.

ducatisti
28th November, 2011, 05:02 PM
To TUNE

You need

1.Original software - winols , swiftec or other.

2,Know how to find and recognise your own maps with the software you use.

3,Own a dyno (most important)

If you do not have the above then you are NOT a tuner but infact a DANGER !

You cannot guess what fuelling a veichal needs by sitting behind a computer.

maglaras
28th November, 2011, 05:07 PM
thanks! I will need luck :party:
on December will go to basic cours in Alientech, must make the foundations!
T72
GOOD LUCKK
tray to learn winols if you need to make good tuning
the tools that you take is good but not the beeter and this i now very very good
flashteck is the same like makprog
the better S.W for tuning is winolls and this S.W work for very good tuning
good luck
and if you need help for this tool i ame here to help you

maglaras
28th November, 2011, 05:11 PM
To TUNE

You need

1.Original software - winols , swiftec or other.

2,Know how to find and recognise your own maps with the software you use.

3,Own a dyno (most important)

If you do not have the above then you are NOT a tuner but infact a DANGER !

You cannot guess what fuelling a veichal needs by sitting behind a computer.

yes me friend the dyno in break not inertial is the most beter tolls for tuning
you can make tuning on the road but is not the beter because make acident