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caveman_nige
2nd January, 2009, 03:34 PM
Increasing numbers of teenagers are starting to dabble in hi-tech crime, say experts.

Computer security professionals say many net forums are populated by teenagers swapping credit card numbers, phishing kits and hacking tips.

The poor technical skills of many young hackers means they are very likely to get caught and arrested, they say.

Youth workers added that any teenager getting a criminal record would be putting their future at risk.

"I see kids of 11 and 12 sharing credit card details and asking for hacks," said Chris Boyd, director of malware research at FaceTime Security.

Many teenagers got into low level crime by looking for exploits and cracks for their favourite computer games.

Communities and forums spring up where people start to swap malicious programs, knowledge and sometimes stolen data.

"For a kid, getting a criminal record is the worst possible move" Graham Robb, Youth Justice Board.

'Some also look for exploits and virus code that can be run against the social networking sites popular with many young people. Some then try to peddle or use the details or accounts they net in this way'.

Mr Boyd said he spent a lot of time tracking down the creators of many of the nuisance programs written to exploit users of social networking sites and the culprit was often a teenager.

From such virus and nuisance programs, he said, many progress to outright criminal practices such as using phishing kits to create and run their own scams.

"Some are quite crude, some are clever and some are stupid," he said.

The teenagers' attempts to make money from their life of cyber crime usually came unstuck because of their poor technical skills.

"They do not even know enough to get a simple phishing or attack tool right," said Kevin Hogan, a senior manager Symantec Security Response.

"We have seen phishing sites that have broken images because the link, rather than reference the original webpage, is referencing a file on the C: drive that is not there," he said.

Symantec researchers have collected many examples of teenagers who have managed to cripple their own PCs by infecting them with viruses they have written.

Chris Boyd from FaceTime said many of the young criminal hackers were undermined by their desire to win recognition for their exploits.
Many teenage hackers publicise their exploits on YouTube

"They are obsessed with making videos of what they are doing," he said.

Many post videos of what they have done to sites such as YouTube and sign on with the same alias used to hack a site, run a phishing attack or write a web exploit.

Many share photos or other details of their life on other sites making it easy for computer security experts to track them down and get them shut down.

Mr Boyd's action to shut down one wannabe hacker, using the name YoGangsta50, was so comprehensive that it wrung a pledge from the teenager in question to never to get involved in petty hi-tech crime again.

Mathew Bevan, a reformed hacker who was arrested as a teenager and then acquitted for his online exploits, said it was no surprise that young people were indulging in online crime.

"It's about the thrill and power to prove they are somebody," he said. That also explains why they stuck with an alias or online identity even though it was compromised, he added.

"The aim of what they are doing is to get the fame within their peer group," he said. "They spend months or years developing who they are and their status. They do not want to give that up freely."

Graham Robb, a board member of the Youth Justice Board, said teenagers needed to appreciate the risks they took by falling into hi-tech crime.

"If they get a criminal record it stays with them," he said. "A Criminal Record Bureau check will throw that up and it could prevent access to jobs."

Anyone arrested and charged for the most serious crimes would carry their criminal record with them throughout their life.

Also, he added, young people needed to appreciate the impact of actions carried out via the net and a computer.

"Are they going to be able to live with the fact that they caused harm to other people?" he said. "They do not think there is someone losing their money or their savings from what they are doing.

"For a kid, getting a criminal record is the worst possible move."

Full story plus video:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7690126.stm

.: JaCkPoT :.
3rd January, 2009, 01:37 AM
Would you say im like them?

opsmonkey
3rd January, 2009, 02:13 AM
Would you say im like them?

no.. i heard you couldnt hack your way through long grass with a Russian sickle

.: JaCkPoT :.
3rd January, 2009, 03:21 AM
Lol... Hacking is cool

Elric
3rd January, 2009, 03:30 AM
Lol... Hacking is cool

until you get h*cked your self ;)

caveman_nige
3rd January, 2009, 03:03 PM
I am sure you would make a great hacker sadiq its just a shame you can't help telling us all how old you are and where you live, you name is your alias.. Your friend's use their own name in their alias and go to school with you. You would be easy to find mate... Getting caught might mean you get a stretch in more ays than one dude... :roflmao:

gazz10
3rd January, 2009, 09:40 PM
until you get h*cked your self ;)

thats why always better to take a backup image once system stable up and running, And never store any of your details on your pc of cc or autocomplete stuff

Its not just the younger ones there still alot of hardcore h*ckers out there that strut there stuff, but alot are out there for glory and not personal gains, In some kind of way i would say 90% of the users on site are some kind of hacker one way or another.



Its once they start all this doing cc stuff and receiving peanuts for each card they get. But it all goes back to basics, its like leaving your ipod/phone/wallet in car if they see they grab. There too many users on pc that clueless what can happen, if wrong file downloaded via msn or stuff not scanned.


There is a group out there that YES do hack pc's not for there usage, but to try and alert the user, they leave a calling card usally on the desktop, notepad stating they were in pc, nothing happened we a dedicated group that scans for vulnerable users and tries and helps them to protect stuff, the hacker takes a few screenshots and images are posted on a site, and the user can check them, they are given numerous ways to protect there pc and stuff.


So yes hackers are pain in ass, but then again its all down to the the users on pc, how many bought there daughter/son a laptop at xmas and have went ah ~~~~ it there laptop on i will check bank balance or i will log on ebay/paypal or i will purchase something online. Many do it and sons/daughters laptop has probably been hacked in past via opening msn files been sent or downloading latest app/music or something from p2p.


God i could go on all day about this, so will cut it short and mind guys keep it safe and if in doubt just format/then change all passwords to banking paypal etc etc

.: JaCkPoT :.
4th January, 2009, 02:02 AM
I should become the next DARKMAN even tho i doubt he does any hacking i can still learn to spell dishis correctly...