View Full Version : HELP! XTREND ET-9200 OR VU+ ULTIMO?
satlover276
18th December, 2011, 12:51 PM
I would really appreciate your advice on which receiver i should update to from my technomate 7102HD...i am looking for the very best picture quality on both HD and SD channels as well as no lip synch issues and the best specs and fastest etc...i know the ultimo hasn't been tested yet but i am hoping to hear from members who really know about the two receivers. Incidentally, how much should i expect for my 7102HD as it is only 6 weeks old. Thanks...
RuberDuck
18th December, 2011, 01:07 PM
The Duo and ET9200 are both very very nice receivers, although the ET slightly pips the Duo for me.
the xtrend has slightly better specs, more flash memory and more ram, both tuners on the xtrend are hardware blindscan capable where the Duo is not capable of blindscan. however there is a small issue where the second tuner or tuner b on the xtrend can not tune to channels with a sr value of 30,000 but thats not so much of a issue for almost every one i know.
support wise there both covered very well by a number of good teams although i favor vix but thats hardly surprising as i am a member of the vix team.
both boxes run the newest linux 3.x.x kernels fine although the duo is still testing these kernels but it wont be long till there out of testing.
personally i own both a Duo and a Uno and there fantastic boxes, but if i were in the market for another it would be the xtrend.
if you do want to buy either of these i'd recommend you go through world-of-satellite. his after sales support is second to none in this country and he will always go out of his way to help where he can. also he will nock a fiver off the list price for ant one that buys a box off him and pm's him on the support forum.
potrobber
18th December, 2011, 01:10 PM
I would really appreciate your advice on which receiver i should update to from my technomate 7102HD...i am looking for the very best picture quality on both HD and SD channels as well as no lip synch issues and the best specs and fastest etc...i know the ultimo hasn't been tested yet but i am hoping to hear from members who really know about the two receivers. Incidentally, how much should i expect for my 7102HD as it is only 6 weeks old. Thanks...
hi the vu duo seems to get the best remarks on here what is wrong with the tm as you have not had it long i was thinking of one for the twin tuner fuction but might think again as for price there is one on ebay for 299 with no bids in it
satlover276
18th December, 2011, 01:39 PM
Hi Potrobber...i am only selling my technomate because i watch a lot of the foreign channels and it would be nice to have the greek epg. apart from that its the best receiver i've ever owned and the only1 with internet radio, adult clips 'gift' and you tube that is non linux ive enjoyed using. i'm going to advertise at ?290 plus postage...rubberduck/potrobber i really would like to know your thoughts on which you would go for out of the et9200 or the ultimo due to be released? as i said i'm looking for the best HD and SD picture quality and the best images/epg's available and without any lip synch issues like some machines have had out there...
RuberDuck
18th December, 2011, 02:06 PM
well the ultimo is going to be ?529
cactikid
18th December, 2011, 02:11 PM
i would say a big q forming for the ultimo,interesting what the t may do.
RuberDuck
18th December, 2011, 02:14 PM
Hi Potrobber...i am only selling my technomate because i watch a lot of the foreign channels and it would be nice to have the greek epg. apart from that its the best receiver i've ever owned and the only1 with internet radio, adult clips 'gift' and you tube that is non linux ive enjoyed using. i'm going to advertise at ?290 plus postage...rubberduck/potrobber i really would like to know your thoughts on which you would go for out of the et9200 or the ultimo due to be released? as i said i'm looking for the best HD and SD picture quality and the best images/epg's available and without any lip synch issues like some machines have had out there...
neither the duo nor the et9200 suffer lip sync problems and as there both running the enigma 2 system their epg's can be setup exactly the same making there no comparison in that department. as for hd and sd picture quality, again there is almost nothing in it. as for the ultimo ive had a brief look at one but not enough to comment on
potrobber
18th December, 2011, 02:29 PM
hi the ultimo should be one of the best boxs but you are better waiting to see other peoples thoughts on it after a few months use the xtrend is a good box and at 350 is priced well i had a 9000 and never had any problems with it other than picture quality i thought was not as good as a blade 7000
also seen in a add for the ultimo that it has one fixed tuner and 2 tuner slots so maybe you have to buy second tuner on top of the 529 price tag which is a lot for any receiver
as rubberduck has said the xtrend 9200 would be the one he would go for and having 1080p the same as the blade so i might also have a look at one myself but im holding out till the end of january to see what the ultimo performs like in the hands of others before spending my hard earned money
satlover276
18th December, 2011, 03:14 PM
thanks potrobber for your help, do you think if i opt for the et9200 the picture quality would be great as that is really something that is important to me otherwise i will wait until the ultimo is available...
potrobber
18th December, 2011, 03:33 PM
thanks potrobber for your help, do you think if i opt for the et9200 the picture quality would be great as that is really something that is important to me otherwise i will wait until the ultimo is available...
i would think the picture would be good on the 9200 being able to do 1080p even tho broadcasts are 1080i
i dont know why on the 9000 it was not as good as a blade7000 i have but there was a noticable difference between the two maybe thats why they have added 1080p to the et9200
it might be to do with our main tv aswell being full hd rather than hd ready as when tested in bedroom on hd ready there was not much difference between the two so for me i think 1080 p is a must as its not good having a box at 150 with better picture than one at 300
satlover276
19th December, 2011, 12:44 PM
if you were me...would you buy the et9200 or wait for the ultimo? it would help make up my mind to hear your opinions...
digicon
19th December, 2011, 01:50 PM
i would think the picture would be good on the 9200 being able to do 1080p even tho broadcasts are 1080i
i dont know why on the 9000 it was not as good as a blade7000 i have but there was a noticable difference between the two maybe thats why they have added 1080p to the et9200
it might be to do with our main tv aswell being full hd rather than hd ready as when tested in bedroom on hd ready there was not much difference between the two so for me i think 1080 p is a must as its not good having a box at 150 with better picture than one at 300
They have not added 1080p to the 9200 over the 9000 as both are capable of 1080p as they both use identical hardware the only difference between the 9000 and 9200 is slightly upgraded capacitors and newer revisions of the tuners apart from that they are identical.
the 9200 also is not 1080p straight out of the box its 1080i same as the 9000 for the 1080p capability you need to install the autoresolution plugin which will then give you various options for 1080p playback exactly the same as if you installed it on the 9000 or any other E2 linux reciever.
RuberDuck
19th December, 2011, 03:04 PM
They have not added 1080p to the 9200 over the 9000 as both are capable of 1080p as they both use identical hardware the only difference between the 9000 and 9200 is slightly upgraded capacitors and newer revisions of the tuners apart from that they are identical.
the 9200 also is not 1080p straight out of the box its 1080i same as the 9000 for the 1080p capability you need to install the autoresolution plugin which will then give you various options for 1080p playback exactly the same as if you installed it on the 9000 or any other E2 linux reciever.
actually your incorrect the 9200 has slightly more nand flash and ram.
digicon
19th December, 2011, 03:06 PM
actually your incorrect the 9200 has slightly more nand flash and ram.
Not quite correct the 9000 has 128mb nand flash the 9200 has 256 so yes you are correct but they both have 512mb ram so identical
satlover276
19th December, 2011, 03:16 PM
so would you both go for the 9200 or wait for the ultimo?
digicon
19th December, 2011, 04:24 PM
so would you both go for the 9200 or wait for the ultimo?
Me personally as you can see from my sig my ultimo is on pre-order, I have had an ET9000 and its a great box no doubt about it but it has driver issues for the AGC bug and the SR30000 TP issues on Tuner B, This wont be a problem if you dont use tuner b for motorised use and just use it for sky just to clarify this also affects the 9200 as well.
IMHO if you can afford it and dont mind the wait till january get the Ultimo it will have far better support from more teams than what the CT/Xtrend has now.
satlover276
19th December, 2011, 09:54 PM
thank you digicon for your advice! it really has been helpful. i'm not an expert (yet!!) on linux receivers but hoping to learn pretty soon and then get the very best out of the receiver's benefits and capabilities. i'm hoping that the picture quality will be at the top end of receiver quality on both HD and SD with the Ultimo as that's what i'm hoping for. i'm hoping it will be easy for me to load everything on it like the cccam, drivers, bootloaders, images, addons etc...as i currently have a tech 7102HD T2 Super, is there such a thing as vu+ patches like in the technomate receivers? thank you very much for your advice...kind regards...
digicon
20th December, 2011, 02:55 AM
thank you digicon for your advice! it really has been helpful. i'm not an expert (yet!!) on linux receivers but hoping to learn pretty soon and then get the very best out of the receiver's benefits and capabilities. i'm hoping that the picture quality will be at the top end of receiver quality on both HD and SD with the Ultimo as that's what i'm hoping for. i'm hoping it will be easy for me to load everything on it like the cccam, drivers, bootloaders, images, addons etc...as i currently have a tech 7102HD T2 Super, is there such a thing as vu+ patches like in the technomate receivers? thank you very much for your advice...kind regards...
No Problem mate you will love the ultimo id you decide this is the right one for you, Its a little different from your TM as your already use to loading patches and keys via a USB stick then the VU is similar for images but for the rest CCam,Channel Lists, Softcam Keys, Drivers need to be FTP'd over by one of the popular programs mainly filezilla, You will also use Telnet commands for somethings but mostly ftp for everyday use.
I am sure that once you have a go a few times it becomes second nature.
Good Luck with your Purchase
Regards
satlover276
20th December, 2011, 01:11 PM
thank you very much for your help and advice digicon. i really appreciated hearing your opinion. i hope the Ultimo is released very soon!!
cactikid
20th December, 2011, 10:16 PM
dont worry you will see many misleading posts on here lol,question about the ultimo will you be using the 3 tuners? and for RD is the third tuner for Aeriel on roof? just to put people straight cheers.
satlover276
21st December, 2011, 12:11 AM
cactikid i will only be using with one dish on motorised from 53e to 30w via USALS. i have my sky connected to the sky+HD box separately.
terrys
27th December, 2011, 09:00 PM
If you go for the Vu+ box have a look at this web site
Vu+ ULTIMO 2x DVB-S2 1x DVB-C/T HDTV Receiver PVR ready Linux (http://www.cs-multimedia.de/Vu-ULTIMO-2x-DVB-S2-1x-DVB-C-T-HDTV-Receiver-PVR-ready-Linux)
Hope to help terrys
Manic01
28th December, 2011, 11:10 AM
?529 and product sent from UK
Vu+ Ultimo HD Vu+ Ultimo HD Vu+ Ultimo HD Vu+ Ultimo HD Vu+ Ultimo HD Vu+ Ultimo HD Vu+ Ultimo HD (http://www.goldwafers.com/cart/Vu-Ultimo-HD.html)
VU + Ultimo ( Inducing 2 Tuner DVB-S2 + Wi-Fi adaptor (http://69.46.27.82/~alsatoff/shop/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=391&category_id=147&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1)
RuberDuck
29th December, 2011, 02:25 AM
and for RD is the third tuner for Aeriel on roof? just to put people straight cheers.
sorry mate one just got round to this thread.
you get two DVB-S2 tuners with the box as standard although all 3 tuner slots are interchangeable so you can have any combination of DVB-S2 for satellite or DVB-C / T combo for terrestrial or cable. as for supplier well you know i'm going to say World-of-satellite and as always he nocks a fiver off for any one who contacts him via pm plus his after sales support is easily the best in the uk.
cactikid
29th December, 2011, 10:39 AM
so in theory it should work with the irish saorview which is dtt and mpeg4 and mheg5 possibly?never heard of wos lol lol
dell_xps
29th December, 2011, 11:11 AM
Buy from world of satellite, as RD sais service and after sales service is second to none :-)
garry1312
30th December, 2011, 02:29 PM
Purchased the Xtrend ET9200 and received it yesterday. Have to say it is a fantastic receiver, runs like a dream. Remote is very responsive, it looks great, PiP works great. Waiting on my HDD being delivered so cant comment on timeshift, recording etc just yet.
I am using the latest ViX image on it and what a excellent image it is. Normally when I get a new Enigma receiver I have to go through loads of images before finding the right one. First image I tried on this receiver and have not tried any other, dont plan to as it works so well, also I normally install Cool TV Guide didnt need to as ViX epg is similar but much more stable.
cactikid
30th December, 2011, 08:16 PM
bit worried there by your comment gary works like a dream,surely better than a dm lol lol
xdoktor
4th January, 2012, 03:33 AM
@ RD
Bro, do you know if the VU Ultimo will do 1080p playback of eg an .mkv file using the autoresolution plugin?
cheers
Dok
alom5
4th January, 2012, 06:29 PM
just been looking at the ultimo..........and it looks the doggies...very nice
digicon
4th January, 2012, 06:35 PM
@ RD
Bro, do you know if the VU Ultimo will do 1080p playback of eg an .mkv file using the autoresolution plugin?
cheers
Dok
I would have thought so seeing as it has the same broadcom chipset as the VU+ Uno, CT 9000,9200, and they all have 1080p playback via the autoresolution plugin.
regards
RuberDuck
4th January, 2012, 07:27 PM
sorry i did not get to this question earlier but to answer you, yes it will.
blueflash234
4th January, 2012, 07:47 PM
Purchased the Xtrend ET9200 and received it yesterday. Have to say it is a fantastic receiver, runs like a dream. Remote is very responsive, it looks great, PiP works great. Waiting on my HDD being delivered so cant comment on timeshift, recording etc just yet.
I am using the latest ViX image on it and what a excellent image it is. Normally when I get a new Enigma receiver I have to go through loads of images before finding the right one. First image I tried on this receiver and have not tried any other, dont plan to as it works so well, also I normally install Cool TV Guide didnt need to as ViX epg is similar but much more stable.
thats what i don;t like about the dm 800 clones the remote is not responsive compared to my other boxes(dont know if the orginal dm is better or the same)
mdt
4th January, 2012, 08:12 PM
just been looking at the ultimo..........and it looks the doggies...very nice
it should be for what their asking for it:bawling: although its 90% certain that i will own one sometime in the near future. regards mdt
lombard
4th January, 2012, 11:13 PM
Hi Potrobber...i am only selling my technomate because i watch a lot of the foreign channels and it would be nice to have the greek epg. apart from that its the best receiver i've ever owned and the only1 with internet radio, adult clips 'gift' and you tube that is non linux ive enjoyed using. i'm going to advertise at ?290 plus postage...rubberduck/potrobber i really would like to know your thoughts on which you would go for out of the et9200 or the ultimo due to be released? as i said i'm looking for the best HD and SD picture quality and the best images/epg's available and without any lip synch issues like some machines have had out there...
tell you the truth any enigma2 based box will be better then any closed source box, all vu , et, dreambox are linux enigma based
alom5
5th January, 2012, 02:30 PM
it should be for what their asking for it:bawling: although its 90% certain that i will own one sometime in the near future. regards mdt
i'm still thinking mate........do i reallly need one????? i think it's vu's go at destroying the dm8000
my setups good as it stands......................but??!!!
Manic01
5th January, 2012, 02:37 PM
Really a very expensive toy, would you really need the extra tuners?
alom5
5th January, 2012, 02:40 PM
Really a very expensive toy, would you really need the extra tuners?
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....i don't think so manic.
i'll just stay as i am :)
Manic01
5th January, 2012, 02:47 PM
Makes sense lol.
alom5
5th January, 2012, 02:58 PM
Makes sense lol.
yep......still tho...it looks pretty tasty......definately better than the dm8000
blueflash234
16th January, 2012, 07:17 PM
the sat-shop is selling the triple tuner for ?559
redondo5
1st April, 2012, 11:54 PM
which would be better value
dm 8000 clone for ?380
or
vu+ ultimo for ?400 with two tuners
blueflash234
2nd April, 2012, 02:33 PM
the ultimo would be my choice,don't know if i would pay that kind of money for a clone, when you can get a nice original for 20 quid more
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