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cheeseslice
19th December, 2011, 12:56 AM
Hello all,

I'm very new to satellite, just bought myself a new dream box 800se, I'm in the process of setting this up but I intend to run this box in addition to my sky hd box.

I hadn't really thought about a motorised setup yet but I'm seriously considering going to maplin tomorrow avnd buying their ?40 motor. I'm wondering if this will be worthwhile with the current sky mini dish, I'm in northern Ireland so using zone 2 (I think). I don't know exactly what satellites I'm interested in yet but it would be for football, so I think 13e and 19e. I read sky it is the place to go and I will get extra English movies too.

Bigger dish would be a problem with the neighbours I think.

Thanks

cgscott
19th December, 2011, 01:08 AM
wont work with mini dish. You will need a bigger dish to get the better sats. If your lucky you'll get 19e on a small dish but onlyt a few channels. Only option is go big. As they say bigger is better. As for your dm800. Its small but really good if you know how to use it. Which kind of knocks the big theory on the head.

P.S Dont use maplin they are expensive.

dufmyster
19th December, 2011, 12:55 PM
wont work with mini dish. You will need a bigger dish to get the better sats. If your lucky you'll get 19e on a small dish but onlyt a few channels. Only option is go big. As they say bigger is better. As for your dm800. Its small but really good if you know how to use it. Which kind of knocks the big theory on the head.

P.S Dont use maplin they are expensive.
cant use your current dish on a motor. just buy an 80cm round dish (doesnt look much bigger) and then you can get all channels on 28e 19e 13e on a few good ones on 0.8 and you'l be sorted. dont use maplins as u can get dish and technomate motor on ebay

digicon
19th December, 2011, 01:38 PM
wont work with mini dish. You will need a bigger dish to get the better sats. If your lucky you'll get 19e on a small dish but onlyt a few channels. Only option is go big. As they say bigger is better. As for your dm800. Its small but really good if you know how to use it. Which kind of knocks the big theory on the head.

P.S Dont use maplin they are expensive.


You can adapt both the 58cm and 43cm sky dish to work on a motor it's not easy but it can be done, For ease of use though it is probably preferable that you source say a TD54 if you think the neighbours may complain, This will fit easier on the motor and will get you plenty of sats dependant on your location and view of the ARC

Manic01
19th December, 2011, 01:41 PM
Absolute waste of time getting anything below 80cm in your location if you want to pick up a good choice of sats.
Yes you can motorise a sky dish, you can also put football boots on peter crouch but both are useless lol

digicon
19th December, 2011, 01:53 PM
Absolute waste of time getting anything below 80cm in your location if you want to pick up a good choice of sats.
Yes you can motorise a sky dish, you can also put football boots on peter crouch but both are useless lol

LOL just thought i would give the OP an option, If the neighbours kick up a fuss got to agree with Manic01 though an 80 - 1m would be a better option though.

dick b
19th December, 2011, 03:30 PM
Hello all,



Bigger dish would be a problem with the neighbours I think.

Thanks

Its not up to the neighbours what size dish you put up,planning regs in england allow 2 dishes 1 up to 60cm and 1 up to100cm without consent unless a listed building or in a conservation area and I would have thought Northern Ireland would be the same so its worth a check,sticking a motor on a sky dish is a waste of time wherever you live.

Manic01
19th December, 2011, 03:54 PM
Same rules as UK
100cm and 60cm
http://www.planningni.gov.uk/index/advice/advice_leaflets/information_leaflet_13_aerials.pdf

cheeseslice
19th December, 2011, 05:10 PM
Thanks for all the replies.

been looking on gumtree and someone is selling big dish and motor for ?40. Might just buy it and see if I get any complaints. More likely to get abuse from the wife but the neighbours might have a comment to make too!

If I were to set up a motorised dish would it be possible to have quad lnb, 3 feeds would be for our sky hd and sky box, the 4th would be for the dreambox. I would just have to remember to have it return to 28.2 after I finish with the football. If a series link were to get messed up I would be killed. I know 2 dishes would be best but there is no way that will happen.

potrobber
19th December, 2011, 09:50 PM
[QUOTE=cheeseslice;1378106]Thanks for all the replies.

been looking on gumtree and someone is selling big dish and motor for ?40. Might just buy it and see if I get any complaints. More likely to get abuse from the wife but the neighbours might have a comment to make too!


when you are finished doing all that m8 go home and rip your wifes knickers off
because they must be hurting you

n ireland joke lol

was talking to you last night cheeseslice on cskings hope you are well

m8 put your 1 m dish up and worry about it later i think you can even get a clear dish now that might suit you better

ramjet
21st December, 2011, 07:04 AM
Thanks for all the replies.

been looking on gumtree and someone is selling big dish and motor for ?40. Might just buy it and see if I get any complaints. More likely to get abuse from the wife but the neighbours might have a comment to make too!

If I were to set up a motorised dish would it be possible to have quad lnb, 3 feeds would be for our sky hd and sky box, the 4th would be for the dreambox. I would just have to remember to have it return to 28.2 after I finish with the football. If a series link were to get messed up I would be killed. I know 2 dishes would be best but there is no way that will happen.

yes you can , although I bet you will mess up and not return it to 28e at some point , so better to leave the current setup on sly and maybe put a motorised one up for the rest , even if its the clear one

the other option depending on how many sats you want could be a bigger fixed dish with multiple lnb,s on it like the wavefrontier , or a triax td88 with multi lnb rack , and use a quad on 28e , and diseqc switch to switch satellites

this would work ok for 28e , 19e , 16e and 13e for instance

cheeseslice
1st January, 2012, 03:53 AM
Christmas is finally over, I have made my decision and I'm going to go for a 2nd dish like you recommended.

I rang around and got speaking to a few installers, generally they are looking for ?300 to install a 80cm dish with motor, I think this is a bit of a crazy price so I'm going to do it myself.

I have been looking on ebay and have found a few different packages but I don't really know what I'm looking for. Would anyone be kind enough to recommend one to me, I think I will probably go for up to 1m.

According to the installers I spoke to Thor is the satellite I should be most interested in but from all the things that I have read so far I thought the best was 19e for Sky Italia? I know most people get this setup mainly for football but I am interested in having access to extra decent english speaking channels, movies etc too.

Thanks again

Manic01
1st January, 2012, 09:52 AM
Sky italia is on 13e

cheeseslice
1st January, 2012, 10:16 AM
Sky italia is on 13e

Sorry, it was late last night, my mistake

Manic01
1st January, 2012, 10:35 AM
I would go for (Prices approx)
TD110 cm dish ?70
Dark motor metal gear ?55
Inverto black ultra lnb ?15
T&K Brackets + Pole ?25
RG6/CT100 cable connectors etc ?25
Total approx ?190, can be done cheaper if you shop around.

ramjet
1st January, 2012, 10:44 AM
I would go for (Prices approx)
TD110 cm dish ?70
Dark motor metal gear ?55
Inverto black ultra lnb ?15
T&K Brackets + Pole ?25
RG6/CT100 cable connectors etc ?25
Total approx ?190, can be done cheaper if you shop around.

cant argue with those choices
great shopping list

cheeseslice
2nd January, 2012, 02:58 AM
Hi,

Thanks for all the replies. I was on the dishpointer website today trying to work out what satellites I would have access to, I think I can just about get Thor 0.8w but to do it the dish is going to have to be pointing parallel to the wall that it is mounted on. If I were to get a 1m dish this would require a bracket to come out a bit from the wall.

I was looking at something like this:
24" T&K WALL BRACKET GALVANISED STEEL HEAVY DUTY MOUNT | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/24-T-K-WALL-BRACKET-GALVANISED-STEEL-HEAVY-DUTY-MOUNT-/330470584911?pt=UK_ConEle_SatCableFreeview_RL&hash=item4cf194f24f)

Hopefully I can post a link!

is this the sort of bracket I should be looking at?

digicon
2nd January, 2012, 03:04 AM
Hi,

Thanks for all the replies. I was on the dishpointer website today trying to work out what satellites I would have access to, I think I can just about get Thor 0.8w but to do it the dish is going to have to be pointing parallel to the wall that it is mounted on. If I were to get a 1m dish this would require a bracket to come out a bit from the wall.

I was looking at something like this:
24" T&K WALL BRACKET GALVANISED STEEL HEAVY DUTY MOUNT | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/24-T-K-WALL-BRACKET-GALVANISED-STEEL-HEAVY-DUTY-MOUNT-/330470584911?pt=UK_ConEle_SatCableFreeview_RL&hash=item4cf194f24f)

Hopefully I can post a link!

is this the sort of bracket I should be looking at?

Thats the one alright.

billybob69
4th January, 2013, 03:02 PM
Sorry to bump an old thread, but thought that it was better to continue with this one than start a new one.

I've just got a new house - therefore don't want to piss off the neighbours - with a 60cm dish on it.
I was thinking of motorising this dish, but have a few queries -

* What satellites would I potentially pick up with a 60cm dish (Location: Mid Wales)?

The types of things that I?m looking to pick up is Discovery / History type channels, UK Horse Racing, occasional EPL / Champions League (with or without English commentary), decent boxing and ?Sky Indie? type movies.

* If I decide to upgrade from a 60cm to a 80cm dish later, is it easy to do that upgrade (i.e. new brackets etc needed)?

Thanks in advance for any replies.

bb69

ramjet
4th January, 2013, 03:28 PM
all the answers are already in the thread as its no different for you

dishpointer will tell you what you need to know about satellites

but frankly you are better to start as you mean to go on with an 80cm or larger motorised dish and leave a sly dish doing what it does best - sly

getting channels is one thing- decoding them is something else entirely and usually involves banned subjects ;)

billybob69
4th January, 2013, 04:37 PM
all the answers are already in the thread as its no different for you

dishpointer will tell you what you need to know about satellites;)

Thanks for the reply.
I should have said that I have already been on dishpointer to see what satellites I can get from my location and another website (can't remember which one now) to show what satellites I should be able to get depending on the dish size.

I suppose what I was asking was whether it was possible to get the types of channels that I was hoping to get with a 60cm motorised setup?



getting channels is one thing- decoding them is something else entirely and usually involves banned subjects ;)

From that do I take it that I am only likely to get the channels that I'm looking for (and I'm not just concentrating on EPL) through illegal means?

Thanks in advance for any replies.

ramjet
4th January, 2013, 05:10 PM
I would say you wont get them through any "legal" means unless you buy or rent a legal subscription card, which was kind of my point

too many people will say what they want to view, but what you want and what you may actually see or view is dependent on many factors and usually people want what they cant have for little or no money ;) your wants are no different from what I saw

lyngsat and kingofsat and flysat have those satellite details you require, as well as dishpointer

I would also say that a 60cm dish is unlikely to give you all of those "wants" as has been fully explained to others in this thread
it also clearly states that it is a more difficult (but not impossible) task to motorise a standard sly dish as they are meant as fixed dishes

grahampaull
4th January, 2013, 09:48 PM
Where in NI are you ?, If you are nearby I could help you out if you need it.

ramjet
4th January, 2013, 11:22 PM
Where in NI are you ?, If you are nearby I could help you out if you need it.

mmmm , post #19



(Location: Mid Wales)


:D

zenithtime
5th January, 2013, 10:09 AM
where in mid wales are you there are large dishes everywhere??:manuscarf: