Miracle A5....Opinions.

[baken]

Hello all,

I want to buy a Miracle A5 keycutting machine.
is it good machine?

Please share with me your opinions or another idea...

Thanks in advance,
Baken

[garvo411]

I don't have one but it has been talked about a lot on here. Most people seem to like them. Have a search around

[davorOS]

I have it and love it

small size and work on 12V never had any problems with it.......for over a year now,

regards

[obdmaster]

Yes i have one and it works very well.

Its my first key cutting machine and seems easy to use. My friend says its very slow for cutting laser keys, but as i have no other experience to compare. But it doesnt take too long to me.

One thing that winds me up is changing from decoder bit to cutter as sometimes i find them very diificult to remove from chuck as anyone else found this??

[totalkey]

yes, is very hard to pull it out sometimes, i broke 2 drills , thet because the drill come a little bit bigger from factory

[neriuks007]

if keys lost this miracle 5 can do?

[obdmaster]

if keys lost this miracle 5 can do?


Yes m8 but you will need instacode to get the bits, from manufacturer code.


Then enter bits what instacode gives you and your good to go.

[jamesnz888]

yes, is very hard to pull it out sometimes, i broke 2 drills , thet because the drill come a little bit bigger from factory

I own A5 for 10 months now and love it, I will NOT go out for job without A5.


Talked to facotry in Korea and they admitted the cutter/tracer may stuck in a humid areas and needs lubicant occessionally. Just a spray of Lubi / oil will get you out of trouble for a long time. personally I never have any trouble with A5.

[baken]

Thanks for opinions
I guess , will get one

[Automat]

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[foxdata]

i need to buy new key cutting machine i think the A5 is good to.

[baken]

Yes , very good machine , i ordered and got it 2 days ago
no problem and working perfectly with PDA.

I am planning to buy an attachment for Tibbe Keys soon ,

Baken

[lockdecoders]

That is good you like our machine. If you need cutters or any spare parts, you can contact us .

[shaykie]

Look at the 3D Pro,
my friends have one and they love it.
mine is on its way.

[keyblank]

I am also have a miracle,but in several days ago i was tryed made key to Citroen picaso from code.And key do not work.
After that i enclosure the lock and what i see?
The key is much higher,i repair it ,and its work fine.:listen:

[Automat]

That is good you like our machine. If you need cutters or any spare parts, you can contact us .

Contact?? Who??

[m3m5]

I have bought it last year to mercokey

I'm very happy, can make a lot of keys. works with bluetooth, and you can work to 12v connected to car.

Only problem it's speed. If you need cut 15 keys at day you can go to sleep, or have a coffe hahahahaha

[jamesnz888]

I have bought it last year to mercokey

I'm very happy, can make a lot of keys. works with bluetooth, and you can work to 12v connected to car.

Only problem it's speed. If you need cut 15 keys at day you can go to sleep, or have a coffe hahahahaha


Good to know,

by the way, you should get rich very quickly if you have to generate 15 keys from codes. just buy another A5 for load balancing and haigher availability. hahahha!:p:p

[pianoman58]

Keyblank: Do you have the extra clamps for sx9 blades so you can lower the key in the vise for the "a" side

[viw9419]

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[whiskeyman]

better off with dedicated tibbie machine anyway
not found one tibbie adaptor for any machine very good

how you finding the a5 on hu66 keys?

[obdmaster]

better off with dedicated tibbie machine anyway
not found one tibbie adaptor for any machine very good

how you finding the a5 on hu66 keys?

On hu66 its been very good m8, at reading bits, and cutting from code.No problems at all.

[whiskeyman]

i had problems for a start
but pete got them sorted:congrats:

[keyblank]

Keyblank: Do you have the extra clamps for sx9 blades so you can lower the key in the vise for the "a" side
no,i do not have but i know there is no clamp for sx9,only for ford :hmmmm2:

[lockdecoders]

Contact?? Who??

I am not allowed to post my email address as it infringed the terms and conditions as i had a warning

[lockdecoders]

We have modified the little U shaped clamps for holding the SX9 key and it now works perfectly.

[lockdecoders]

Tibbe adaptor is not good, hard to set up, takes a very long time to cut and does a bad job.

I have one :)
We have sorted the problems with it and also the software is also sorted. What sort of problems are you having?

[drivesure]

i had problems with cutting citroen xara picasso key. tried skyping you pete with no reply, waited a week for reply then cut the key by hand. cut key to code and it cuts the b axis good but damages the a axis.

[lockdecoders]

i had problems with cutting citroen xara picasso key. tried skyping you pete with no reply, waited a week for reply then cut the key by hand. cut key to code and it cuts the b axis good but damages the a axis.
I was away on holiday. Ask B and B or Top lock for the modified adaptors.

[drivesure]

ok will try even though b is 5 cut and a is 4 cut

[pianoman58]

Drivesure:
You need the clamps in post #19 set the sx9 lower down in the clamps when you cut the "b" side so the taper section on the cutter doesn't foul the "a" side

viw9419: I have tibbe attachment, no setting up required, yes it is a bit slow if you use the PDA, but not bad if you use the top screen, but this more than makes up for having another machine on the bench or in a van,
I must disagree with you on the key cutting quality, i find it OK

I find HU66 cut using top screen instead of PDA more successful

[viw9419]

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[lockdecoders]

we have a 16th nov update.

[pe locksmiths]

who can we contact for Machine purchase.
Thanks

[lockdecoders]

look us up on the internet.
Or contact Simon Thomas at Top Lock in JHB.

[viw9419]

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[drivesure]

i have miracle A5 . i have to cut a key for a new 2011 kia picanto. laser cut. i have a key code of E1611. the cuts are internal axis a - 311233 axis B - 113133. i want to use the miracle to cut this key. is there someone with the miracle that can help me to cut this blade. thanks

[lockdecoders]

Have skyped you

[totalkey]

Please post a picture of a Tibbe key you have cut with the A5.

If I understand your post, you claim you just clamped the Tibbe jaw in and cut a key with no setup?

I find it very difficult to believe that an 'OK' key can be cut in this way, I only supply correctly cut keys, 'OK' isn't good enough anyway.
i been cut many tibbe keys white no setup at all

[pianoman58]

VIW: I dont understand what you mean by set up... just put the tibbe clamp in at slot 3 like it says on the pda and cut.

My keys are excellent, i don't do sh*t jobs, if they aren't perfect they are in the bin. I only got into key cutting because my local "master locksmiths", who incidently are also members of the MLA and ALA, were absolutely crap and i was sick of going back with keys that didn't work properly. So there is no point in me doing anything less than my best, or I might as well have carried on going to (and sending my customers to ) to where i used to get them cut.

Rant over !! ...........Back to the plot........
I altered the Z axis default from 12.7 to 12.6 because the No4 cuts were just cutting into the edge lip of the key, but apart from that the A5 works well. You have to make sure that the key doesn't twist slightly as you tighten the grub screw.
I really can't see what problems you are having, are you in the UK

[viw9419]

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[whiskeyman]

just a little heads up here

lockdecoders has been one of the best support firms i have dealt with
any problems hes sorted
other people i have spoken to have said the same
have heard he offered a guy a complete new machine as there was a problem which does happen as nothing can get produced 100% all the time

wish could say the say about ad stuff as all they wanna do is charge you to death for everything

[pianoman58]

I don't think the key sensing works on tibbe keys.

I only changed the Z axis once, and saved it in the pda (over 12 months ago) and have never touched it since, so i would hardly call that setup, more like initial calibration of a new machine, more akin to screwing down one foot on a new fridge to stop it rocking because the floor isnt quite level.
I bought the machine as a complete novice in dec 2010 and had never cut a key in my life before, it will decode and cut everything i've been asked for apart from the old chubb mk3/4 escort + Sierra, which now are only on Ldv vans and blackcabs,( no-one has ask for so far). The attachment for these is available, but i haven't got it.
I'm totally happy with mine, and for 4grand+vat you can't get anywhere near with anything else........... and yes the support is topnotch, even when they have to spoon feed absolute beginners. (like i was).

[viw9419]

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[lockdecoders]

I have been cutting Auto keys for well over 10 years, I still have the Tibbe machine I learned on and it is still going strong.

I also have the Tibbe adaptor for the A5 and have cut many keys on it, in excess of 25 in the process of setting it up and I managed to get 2 that were acceptable.

How to cut an acceptable key:

Insert probe and suitable flat sided blank.
Calibrate the Clamp/Jaw.
Swap for Cutter.
Calibrate for Cutter length (Tool Change)
Clamp Tibbe key into adapter and measure key face above Adapter deck height.
Insert Tibbe adapter and accurately measure Adapter deck height above Jaw face.
Calibrate the Software to the Adapter height.
Cut test key.
Notice that key is cut wrong (too deep usualy).
Reset Software Adapter height (remembering the amount of adjustment).
Repeat previous 3 steps until the key is correct.
Note the difference between actual measurements of Key - Adapter - Jaw, and what the software is set to.

Next key that is cut:

Insert probe and suitable flat sided blank.
Calibrate the Clamp/Jaw.
Swap for Cutter.
Calibrate for Cutter length (Tool Change)
Clamp Tibbe key into adapter and measure key face above Adapter deck height.
Insert Tibbe adapter and accurately measure Adapter deck height above Jaw face.
Correct for the Adjustment Error from last time and ensure the Software Adapter height is set correctly.

Will then cut a key that is acceptable but still needs medium/heavy cleaning up with a wire wheel as the cut transitions are a little rough.


Is there a reason that you will not post a picture of a key you have cut? I can only suggest that the reason is that you will open yourself up to ridicule as to the poor quality of it's cuts.

With key sensing turned off, how does the machine know where the end of the cutter is in relation to the key.

For Tibbe cutting to work on the A5, the height of the key face has to the exact height above the jaw that the software expects it to be (to 1/10th mm) I absolutely guarantee that you cannot get the key to that level every time. The cutter has no way of sensing where it is in relation to the height of the key above the A5 Jaw (which is where it was calibrated from, if you calibrated it before you started cutting the Tibbe key).


Lets stop discussing the issue, post a picture and lets see how good your machine does.

Pete has never cut a Tibbe on the A5 at any show, nor have any member of his sales staff, the reason is that they are a ballache to cut and look crap.

The LASM show is in 2 weeks, Lockdecoders will be there, will Pete cut a few Tibbe up to demonstrate?

At the last 2 shows we did have it there and both Pat and Iain cut keys on it. We did used to have to calibrate it. We dont have to do that now as it self calibrates.
Will post a picture.

[viw9419]

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[Hanukkah]

Can someone with the layest instacode help me add new key profile to my A5.

I need to add JMA Hond-24.P1 and HY-11D.P1

Thanks in advance.

[lockdecoders]

That looks lovely Pete, any chance of a close-up?
It looks in the picture like the 2s have a nice gap between them. It also looks like it was cut on a dedicated Tibbe machine, like the dedicated Tibbe machine that I have seen of yours but you don't advertise, so if the A5 can do them as well as that without taking 20 minutes then it is a bonus.

Please advise me which software update has the issue resolved as I have my machine updated and it still has the calibration issue.

Correct me if I am wrong but the issue was that the machine is cutting blind, it doesn't know where the key is and so it is vital that the procedure I posted is followed for consistant results.

I am happy to be proved wrong however.

I think the best thing is to un-install your software and then re=install your software and then update it and then update the PDA and SD card.

When cutting a key from the machine keyboard, Go to FO21 and then type the cuts in. The machine will move the jaw and touch the top of the key and then follow the instructions on the key. After cutting both side of the top of the key then cancel and change the key around and repeat the previous steps. We are going to change the settings so it will calibrate both sides of the key.

[lockdecoders]

Can someone with the layest instacode help me add new key profile to my A5.

I need to add JMA Hond-24.P1 and HY-11D.P1

Thanks in advance.
What is the Silca numbers?

[Hanukkah]

What is the Silca numbers?

For the JMA HOND-24 -> Silca HON63 or HON70MH

For the JMA HY-11.P1 -> Silca HYN14MH

Thanks in advance.

[nyandacca]

How can I update the SD card?
Codemaster sw says "SDcard update completed"
But there are no HU100R nor MAZ14.
I tried "clear SDmemory" "update SDmemory" both no change.

[lockdecoders]

contact your distributor to help you

[baken]

How can I update the SD card?
Codemaster sw says "SDcard update completed"
But there are no HU100R nor MAZ14.
I tried "clear SDmemory" "update SDmemory" both no change.

i had same problem , i formed sd card and tried to update it again - succesfull

Baken

[immo_key]

Sorry to interrupt
Can anyone here give a clear picture of the key cut for toyota, very interested in purchasing this appliance
Thanks
Rergard

[pnj]

Have Miracle A5 also....

Unfortenally mine machine has been very poor until now.
Every second key it trashes totally seems problem to hold the axis could be intermitten as it works sometimes and make nice keys.
I have been supported and promised new mainboard but still no solution so far I have wasted money on this machine and gone back to manually cutting.

From my point of view hard to recomend, but seems I had bad luck with this one.


Rgds

[lockdecoders]

Have Miracle A5 also....

Unfortenally mine machine has been very poor until now.
Every second key it trashes totally seems problem to hold the axis could be intermitten as it works sometimes and make nice keys.
I have been supported and promised new mainboard but still no solution so far I have wasted money on this machine and gone back to manually cutting.

From my point of view hard to recomend, but seems I had bad luck with this one.

Rgds

Hi Pierre. Did you not get the new motherboard that was sent out to you?

I will check there tracking and see where it is as it was sent more than a month ago.

[drivesure]

I HAD no problems till last week with mine. now it is a battle to get them to help. will probably get better response on dk.... : ).

my machine cannot read the y-axis and nobody can give an answer. dropped it off at the reseller to see what they can do. i had a 3d-pro before and sold it because of the support. i thought at least i could try to repair myself. i always rate my original equipment with the back up service....

[lockdecoders]

And the reason why is that you are difficult to get hold of. I have left numerous emails and skype messages. If you want help then you need to be ready for it. Also it is very difficult helping somebody by texts if it is a serious fault. :call2:

We are also not around on a weekend for tech support.

I believe your device is with your distribuotr and i have given them an idea what to do and they will get back to me. We are always around to give tech support where needed, even overseas.

[nazz2]

Question peter,why do the motherboard go down on these? does it only occur on the earlier serries? are the new ones motherboard been upgraded or something?thnx.

[lockdecoders]

Not sure.
Out of 400 machines we have sold ourselves, we have had to replace about 8 motherboards

[Hanukkah]

To those who have A5...

Can you guys decode Chevrolet Venture Keys?

Key profile is like GM-27. Thanks.

[hauwkee]

i m about to purchase miracle A5 in Usa like more feed back
what is the cutting time for a key let say honda high security
average time

[drivesure]

honda actually takes the longest. the blades are extremely tough to cut. the miracle is slow but cuts well. i like the machine and it works through everything. mine having a problem for two weeks now, at the supplier, they still trying to figure out how to repair and it is a must have for me. i cannot work without it. apparently it seem to be the motherboard having problems - it seems like most of the problems are with the motherboards

[LockDecodersUSA]

What was the problem with your A5 drivesure? Did the machine boot up and if there was an error message, what did it say? I may be able to help.

[lockdecoders]

honda actually takes the longest. the blades are extremely tough to cut. the miracle is slow but cuts well. i like the machine and it works through everything. mine having a problem for two weeks now, at the supplier, they still trying to figure out how to repair and it is a must have for me. i cannot work without it. apparently it seem to be the motherboard having problems - it seems like most of the problems are with the motherboards

new motherboard is on its way to you.

[drivesure]

What was the problem with your A5 drivesure? Did the machine boot up and if there was an error message, what did it say? I may be able to help.

the machine boots up and can still cut keys. but the y-axis sensor fault. when i cut a hu66 key it cuts the one side of the blade properly but cut the shoulder away on the other side. when i do calibration it says y-axis error.

thanks pete, i hope it will be up and running soon.

[whiskeyman]

there aint a machine on the market which i could not find some fault sometimes just bad luck lads like all things nowadays

had my a5 for a while now and so far cant fault it

for a start it was user error
not placing key in right position in clamp ie top or bottom

been cutting mostly hu66 hu101 ne72 and not had any fail

its a slower machine than say a 15000 pound job but very portable and it makes me money
cant say fairer than that
and pete has been on the phone when i had problems
great support from these guys

[keysmith]

I would buy this machine today if it had North American residential and commercial keys in its database.

D.

[nick2008]

great little machine, excellent value for money, would'nt be without it.

[barra310]

I have used one of these before at a trade show. Its a great unit, priced very well considering what other key cutters go for. Sure it can be a little bit slow at times but other then that its great. If i worked for myself I would consider buying one.

Would be great if it could do normal domestic keys, I wonder if they will ever add it...

[pnj]

Just installed new mainboard unfortenally, machine still trashes every 2. key.
Seem some problems to find / hold the axis.
Same as always...

Need to know if I need to do any ajustments regarding swap od the mainboard ?

Could use service manual if awaible

[Snowy79]

Silca are releasing an adaptor for cutting standard keys on their Triax which will give the Rolls Royce of key cutting machines. Still a lot more money for the machine but one that's built to last.

[drivesure]

What was the problem with your A5 drivesure? Did the machine boot up and if there was an error message, what did it say? I may be able to help.

i reaLLY NEED the help now. we received the new motherboard but machine is doing exactly the same thing. i am more than a month and a half without a machine now and i am suffering. my supplier tried various things but none working. anybody have any advice on a solution. my machine boot and can still cut. but it cut the shoulder away on one side of the key. when i calibrate it says y-axis error. i cannot afford to go out to jobs and not complete it on site. anyone can help?

[jamesnz888]

i reaLLY NEED the help now. we received the new motherboard but machine is doing exactly the same thing. i am more than a month and a half without a machine now and i am suffering. my supplier tried various things but none working. anybody have any advice on a solution. my machine boot and can still cut. but it cut the shoulder away on one side of the key. when i calibrate it says y-axis error. i cannot afford to go out to jobs and not complete it on site. anyone can help?

Hi drivesure,

I have direct talk to the Korean manufacturer on a daily basis and can pass on your question, please provide your A5 serial number and the seller of your A5 machine. I believe your seller should just replace your A5 with a brand new one. From what I have experienced the Korean manufacturer is so honest and reliable, they would have resorted all possible way to help you out. I reported a problem of Bluetooth module for my client and the manufacturer sent out part on the same day.

own A5 for more than 15 months now and never had any problem with it. I also helped many A5 sales in Asia too.

[keysmith]

Next time you talk to them can you ask them about adding residential and commercial keys to there database? That is the only reason I have not bought the A5 yet.

D.



Hi drivesure,

I have direct talk to the Korean manufacturer on a daily basis...

[drivesure]

Hi drivesure,

I have direct talk to the Korean manufacturer on a daily basis and can pass on your question, please provide your A5 serial number and the seller of your A5 machine. I believe your seller should just replace your A5 with a brand new one. From what I have experienced the Korean manufacturer is so honest and reliable, they would have resorted all possible way to help you out. I reported a problem of Bluetooth module for my client and the manufacturer sent out part on the same day.

own A5 for more than 15 months now and never had any problem with it. I also helped many A5 sales in Asia too.



hi james, i would appreciate if you could put my case forward on how to rectify this problem. this machine has become integral to my business and because i do so many lost key jobs it is a nightmare for us. we bought the machine from B&B locksmith supplies and they are the distributor for lockdecoders in the uk. my serial number : *MA5-11030203* Mfg. date 2011-03-02. the machine still boot and cut but y axis sensor fault. pete sent another main board but it is doing the same thing. it cuts the shoulder away and when we calibrate it says y - axis error. the supplier swopped the two sensors around in case it is the sensor but after swop it still gives y-axis error. i would appreciate if they can help directly. i just need to get it going . i will put my email in a pm to you. thanks

[Julian James]

best machine ive bought!!!!!

[Julian James]

if you need one please let me know

[jamesnz888]

Next time you talk to them can you ask them about adding residential and commercial keys to there database? That is the only reason I have not bought the A5 yet.

D.

Hi,

I am on the sane boat with you and mentioned to the manufacturer, it is almost impossible to cut demestic key if you look at the way A5's clamp/vise design, normal house keya are shoulder aligned and not straight line, it is not possible to clamp the key on shoulders using A5's clamp.

I do not expect my A5 to cut house keys at all, it was designed to cut car keys. I have ITL950 to cut house keys and it works well.

The new 3Dpro from USA seems able to cut both car and house key, but to be proven.

At the end of day you can NOT expect a machine to do all jobs, most professional locksmiths own more than two machines for high availablity reason, one machine failed then you have plan-B.

[lockdecoders]

We are at a loss on yours Siraj. I am talking to the manufacturer about this. within a couple of days we will have an answer for you.

Pierre can you email from the start all the faults you have had so we can look at this and evaluate the problems.

[drivesure]

i hope so pete. it is tragic for me to buy a machine and have to wait 2 months for a (possible) repair when something goes wrong with it. there is no loan machine available and we have become dependant on the machine. regards

[Automat]

Why would anyone bother using a vertical machine like the A5 for common house blade keys? Seems silly to me.

[keysmith]

At the end of day you can NOT expect a machine to do all jobs...

If the A5 had the same database as the 3dpro extreme then it would in fact be able to cut ALL the keys that I need. My plan was to sell my ITL900 and HPC 1200 to make room for an all-in-one machine. I don't have room for 3 machines. In the end I might end up paying more to get the 3dpro extreme just for the fact that it does have residential and commercial keys in its database.

D.

[lockdecoders]

Okay. One repair done and one with parts on its way to SA by FedX.
If we cannot repair we will have it picked up and replace it with a new one.

[pnj]

Pierre can you email from the start all the faults you have had so we can look at this and evaluate the problems.[/QUOTE]

Hi Pete

Not possible as I do not remember anymore.
Anyhow after new mother board is installed machine seems more relaible so will post you if problems comes back

rgds

Pierre

[drivesure]

got my machine back today. it was a simple ribbon cable between the two motherboards that caused all the problems. thanks for all the assist from the dk members.

[lockdecoders]

Sorry it took a while as we have never had that fault. All our distributors will get that cable just in case.

[hauwkee]

i just got mine today love that little thing
didn t receive the the hi security key yet
but i decode a gm 10 cut and made a duplicate pretty impressive
i like to connect by laptop to machine but codedecoder does not run on windows trying to run it
any advice

[obdmaster]

i just got mine today love that little thing
didn t receive the the hi security key yet
but i decode a gm 10 cut and made a duplicate pretty impressive
i like to connect by laptop to machine but codedecoder does not run on windows trying to run it
any advice

I have software running on pc running windows xp and dell pda supplied, both connect to miracle via bluetooth.

If i remember correctly pc software will not start unless it sees miracle a5 machine either by usb or bluetooth.

You need the pc software running, because when you start software it automatically goes to internet to check for updates and downloads if there is any.

[waylyn]

Look at the 3D Pro,
my friends have one and they love it.
mine is on its way.
I am looking to buy either miracle a5 or 3d pro extreme which is the best out of these two machines and whats the best price for the 3d pro extreme.:stupid:

[drivesure]

if you in usa, maybe backup service is better. i owned one and it is not that great. software was a pain and backup service non existent. i dreaded the day something would go wrong. i still did not get the tibbe adapter i paid for, now more than a year ago.

[obdmaster]

if you in usa, maybe backup service is better. i owned one and it is not that great. software was a pain and backup service non existent. i dreaded the day something would go wrong. i still did not get the tibbe adapter i paid for, now more than a year ago.

Im based in UK and backup service is excellent, spare parts a breeze, from lockdecoders.

[lockdecoders]

Siraaj you need to speak to Grant to find out where your Tibbe adaptor is if you paid for it.

[drivesure]

if you in usa, maybe backup service is better. i owned one and it is not that great. software was a pain and backup service non existent. i dreaded the day something would go wrong. i still did not get the tibbe adapter i paid for, now more than a year ago.

sorry :secruity: i was not clear enough in my post. i owned a 3d-pro before and the backup was none existent including a tibbe adapter that i paid for, for the 3-dpro. i am very happy with the miracle A5. my post is actually if you live in usa maybe back-up for 3d-pro will be better but my choice is still the miracle between the two - simply because of ease of use. the 3d-pro software is a pain with a lot of vehicles not even listed when i owned it ( peugeot citroen renault ) etc. you also need a laptop with 3d pro. 220v power to operate it and when you cut keys you will filings all over your vehicle. you cut only one side of the key in the wafer cut and have to turn it around. the miracle considered all of these things when they put it together. hope this cleared it up.:bounce: the only advantage the 3dpro have is that the tracer flips down to read the keys.

[waylyn]

Thanks drivesure, I am picking my a5 up totday from sks, hope it's a good choice of machine I have a knack of buying the wrong machine everytimelol

[drivesure]

my miracle is down again. anyone can help. it will cut the toy 43 one side almost ok and the otherside all ragged tooth. laser cuts are not deep enough all slides standing up hu 66 and bmw hu58 punched the codes in but cut completely wrong. reloaded software and recalibrated the cutter. still the same. every time this thing breaks i realise more how much i depend on it. has any one experienced this and how to repair. on another topic, is there rumours of a miracle A6 and what is the differences. anyone know?

[pnj]

Hi Drivesure

Mine did exact the same destroyed every 2. Key I incerted sometime worked sometimes not. Very unrelible.

At the end all boards was replaced and now it Works. Even still bugs in PC se that can damage machine.

Please ask Pete for help he will belive you now and know the cure.

Personally i think first generation PCB has problems picking up noice in some machines.
The ones I just installed had imoroved ground plane I noticed.



Rgds


Pierre

[lockdecoders]

my miracle is down again. anyone can help. it will cut the toy 43 one side almost ok and the otherside all ragged tooth. laser cuts are not deep enough all slides standing up hu 66 and bmw hu58 punched the codes in but cut completely wrong. reloaded software and recalibrated the cutter. still the same. every time this thing breaks i realise more how much i depend on it. has any one experienced this and how to repair. on another topic, is there rumours of a miracle A6 and what is the differences. anyone know?

Did Leroy not send the picture i sent him. The Toy43 is a common fault and it is down to operator error and clamping. Ask him for the picture. All i can do is send you the same stuff i sent to Pierre.

[Fallen]

Does anybody use this for cutting ford tibbe keys?
I know there was some posts a while back but I would love to hear from the end user how they have found the adapter and how the key turns out.
Does it really take 10 mins to cut 1 key?

[jamesnz888]

Does anybody use this for cutting ford tibbe keys?
I know there was some posts a while back but I would love to hear from the end user how they have found the adapter and how the key turns out.
Does it really take 10 mins to cut 1 key?

Fallen,

I can give you first hand info of A5 on Tibbe. I bought Tibbe adaptor with my A5 and had initial difficulty using it for the start, once I overcome the short coming now I can comfortably say it is a good add-on, at the least it cuts well and accurately. the cut key will not catch on igntion
while some other tools do. it can be a scary scene for newbie when tibbe stuck in the ignition.

A5 cuts all keys I throw on it, I used Lishi 2 in 1 for Hu66, HU92 and cut keys to open doors for a couple instances already.

[jamesnz888]

Did Leroy not send the picture i sent him. The Toy43 is a common fault and it is down to operator error and clamping. Ask him for the picture. All i can do is send you the same stuff i sent to Pierre.

I have cut more than 400 toy43 on my A5 and it never failed. just to make sure your claim it properly at tip.

[jamesnz888]

Does anybody use this for cutting ford tibbe keys?
I know there was some posts a while back but I would love to hear from the end user how they have found the adapter and how the key turns out.
Does it really take 10 mins to cut 1 key?

sorry, more info.

it take me about 5 minutes to cut a tebbie key from start to finish because you have 4 sides to cut, and turn each cuts and each side by hand. not the fastest machine for Tibbe but it is a excellent add-on because I only cut 1 or 2 Tibbe per months and I do NOT have to buy/carry another machine for my van.

[drivesure]

Did Leroy not send the picture i sent him. The Toy43 is a common fault and it is down to operator error and clamping. Ask him for the picture. All i can do is send you the same stuff i sent to Pierre.

if it was only toy43 it might have a slight posibillity of having user error. how much error can be to clamp a key in top slot and tip stop 4. i made many toy 43 keys. in my post i stated it cut hu66 and hu58 laser key incorrect as well. i use non remote keys to cut as i know how hu66 keys can twist sideways. clamps perfect in place and cut wrong. distributor cut a few toy43 with the machine using your pictures still the same. if you see the key you will know it is not a user error but a machine setting. the one side cut like a toy 43 should look like, the other side cuts like its been hacked by hand. please pete help with something else other than the user error picture. i am desperate to get this machine working. regards

siraaj

[pnj]

Ok when error in machine electronics all type keys is cut defective if only one type proberlly user error instead.

[drivesure]

really need advice to solve my machine problems now. pete sent new motherboards for our machine. replace mother all the boards, sensors, and all ribbons. still cut the keys eratic. replaced all belts and still cuts the same. the supplier is trying his best to solve but we have not come across this . anyone had a similar problem that was resolved. please help. i am without this machine for a long time now. regards

[totalkey]

i did got 2 main problems
first was the tracking sensors and drill bit was too big and i didn't got in and out smote from the head machine, all so after cutting 100 keys the machine stop cut in the right deep for laser cut keys, all so the clamp not get a good and stable hold on keys
is my first electronic machine so i cant compare, but for a extra 2000 euro you can get the viper silca that can do all keys (laser and flat) faster and better

[waylyn]

really need advice to solve my machine problems now. pete sent new motherboards for our machine. replace mother all the boards, sensors, and all ribbons. still cut the keys eratic. replaced all belts and still cuts the same. the supplier is trying his best to solve but we have not come across this . anyone had a similar problem that was resolved. please help. i am without this machine for a long time now. regards

Fallen, I have had my A5 for around a month and I have cut 9 tibbe keys no problem once you get used to it, regarding the speed it's my first machine so nothing to compare it to but it doesn't seem to take long to cut them. Nice bit of kit I went down to Swanley and met Peter and the gang very helpful and freindly (I will bring some biscuits next time)lol

[drivesure]

machine on its way to factory to see if they can sort it. word is repair or new one. just hope the turn around time is good...

[lockdecoders]

If we cannot repair it we will replace it.

Yes Lyn, biscuits next time

[raptureready]

hi drivesure
you welcome to bring your keys to us for cutting, we will cut for free for you till you get your a5 fixed, our 3dpro seems to be cutting as wonderful as everlol

[drivesure]

lol ....... now i have it in writing, i'll print this out when i come cut my keys for free by you...:bounce: