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Metin
21st December, 2011, 08:11 PM
anybody read with success mazda in obd mode ?
i have mazda 6, ecu RF7K
identify ok but when try read i get error:
Protocol error on command : securityAccess-IK

soundnavigator
21st December, 2011, 09:21 PM
I have the same problem. No solution for now.

Best regards.

ducatisti
22nd December, 2011, 01:16 AM
Someone said bridging OBD pins makes it work . There is a thread someware. Someone please test

Metin
22nd December, 2011, 02:19 PM
you have more info ?
i connect CAN-H, CAN-L, GND, +12V

ducatisti
23rd December, 2011, 12:48 AM
you have more info ?
i connect CAN-H, CAN-L, GND, +12V


Have you tried bridging the OBD pins? Pin 15 to pin 9, pin 7 to pin 3.

Told this will work but i have doubts. There are many mistake in piasini 4.1. But you can get around most of them with manual checksum and tool box. As for OBD mode i havent tried but please if it works let us know

Techhead
16th February, 2012, 06:54 PM
Have you tried bridging the OBD pins? Pin 15 to pin 9, pin 7 to pin 3.

Told this will work but i have doubts. There are many mistake in piasini 4.1. But you can get around most of them with manual checksum and tool box. As for OBD mode i havent tried but please if it works let us know

Has anybody tried this yet? or any other solution?

Zohar
16th February, 2012, 09:20 PM
Bridging of the pins (in some cases on pin 9 voltage more than 12v is present) - it's totally ludicrous if you don't want to burn the device.
I have tested piasini on many Mazda cars and i see many errors in flasher with some car models. I can read one mazda 6 2007 2AT.0 directly via OBD, on other similar Mazda 6 2007 2.0AT Piasini is got error (but MCUs in ECUs is same - this is Renesas SH7058), I think, problems may be in CAN signals from other electronics on car, may be anybody will try to read ecu on table and report. My deduction - Piasini works fine only in JTAG mode and can be correct CS perfect. For flashing via OBD you should by other products, like MMCFlasher, Powergate.

And one note: Dont try to read Mazda cars manufactured after 2008. Piasini support only Mazda car up to 2008. After 2008 another generation of ECU have been used - this is based on 32Bit M32R Renesas MCU (1Mb flash memory on board). Reading via Can possible only with MMCFlahser, but on table at this moment.

BR

Techhead
16th February, 2012, 09:51 PM
The Mazdai am working on has a SH7058, but the car was registered march 2008, will piasini support this type of ecu do you know or do i need to purchase MMCFlash?

Zohar
16th February, 2012, 10:21 PM
The Mazdai am working on has a SH7058, but the car was registered march 2008, will piasini support this type of ecu do you know or do i need to purchase MMCFlash?

Piasini support this mcu type.
Try to read ECU on table via CAN - if without any good result - try via JTAG (in JTAG is all OK). MMCFlasher can do this directly by OBD on this cars.

BR

Techhead
16th February, 2012, 10:23 PM
Piasini support this mcu type.
Try to read ECU on table via CAN - if without any good result - try via JTAG (in JTAG is all OK). MMCFlasher can do this directly by OBD on this cars.

BR

Can you tell me which pins are CAN and the JTAG info? Much appreciated if you do ;-)

Techhead
16th February, 2012, 10:25 PM
Can you tell me which pins are CAN and the JTAG info? Much appreciated if you do ;-)

Is it:

Pin 01Ground - Pin 03Power Supplie - Pin 04Ignition - Pin 43K Line - Pin 58CAN L - Pin 60CAN H

Zohar
16th February, 2012, 11:19 PM
Can you tell me which pins are CAN and the JTAG info? Much appreciated if you do ;-)

via K-line, yes...i am mistake about CAN - K-line is used for reading/writing of this ECU types in piasini.. info in attach

for JTAG mode see official pdf, i don`t have inscheme reading points for this ECU, but you can try to find them.

Attention: Device writes flash in MCU through RX-TX mode, and finding of points is not a hard job. But for reading MCU, piasini have used another algorithm (for a deceit of watchdog) and other connection points to MCU, of course. I have read this ECU type via CAN (with MMC Flasher and Open Port 2.0) many times, and many times writes done modified file back in ECU on car or in JTAG mode on table.

P.S.

Anyone have full description of piasini jtag wires? Number=1,2,3,4, etc... what is this inputs/outputs ???

Techhead
16th February, 2012, 11:43 PM
The attached is for Mazda 3 I'm working on Mazda 6 the plugs/pins are different to the 3.

Do you power the ecu by the wires from piasini or separate power supply? If separate have you any idea what current is used? I've just bought a power supply unit from maplins but not sure on current settings for ecu's.

Zohar
17th February, 2012, 12:16 AM
The attached is for Mazda 3 I'm working on Mazda 6 the plugs/pins are different to the 3.

Do you power the ecu by the wires from piasini or separate power supply? If separate have you any idea what current is used? I've just bought a power supply unit from maplins but not sure on current settings for ecu's.

Yes, need to power ECU on table from external power supply.
Are you sure, that ECU have a SH7058 inside? May be, this is MH8305? What manufacter of ECU, Mitsubishi or Denso?

may be, attached info will help you

BR

Techhead
17th February, 2012, 12:58 AM
the two plugs are set out like the attached, not sure if the pins will be the same designations...

Zohar
17th February, 2012, 11:22 AM
the two plugs are set out like the attached, not sure if the pins will be the same designations...

look at mazda6 2.0 connections picture in my file

BR

Techhead
17th February, 2012, 05:59 PM
the two plugs are set out like the attached, not sure if the pins will be the same designations...

My sockets on the ecu look like this and nothing like these in the archive you so kindly sent me...

Any other ideas?

Zohar
17th February, 2012, 06:42 PM
My sockets on the ecu look like this and nothing like these in the archive you so kindly sent me...

Any other ideas?


Post a picture of ECU (of sticker and inside) and full information about car. ECU have a 3-pin connector inside, marked as CONx?

BR

micromax
19th February, 2012, 12:25 PM
piasini pinout


1-VCC
2-TXD
3-AUDCK
4-OUT-? |JTAG
5-AUDRST
6-OUT-? |JTAG
7-IN-? |
8-IN-? |JTAG
9-IN-? |
10-AUDMD
11-AUDSYNC
12-AUDATA0
13-AUDATA1
14-AUDATA2
15-AUDATA3
16-SCK
17-IN-? |JTAG
18-12V -UNCONNECTED
19-RXD
20-GND

Techhead
20th February, 2012, 12:26 PM
Here are the photos of the ecu, of you need a picture of the chip let me know.

Thanks in advance.

Techhead
20th February, 2012, 07:55 PM
Found it!!

:wink:

mixauto
26th May, 2012, 09:06 AM
Yes, need to power ECU on table from external power supply.
Are you sure, that ECU have a SH7058 inside? May be, this is MH8305? What manufacter of ECU, Mitsubishi or Denso?

may be, attached info will help you

BR

please give your password to the archive
connections MAZDA.rar

VTS_Tibi
13th June, 2012, 02:45 PM
Found it!!

:wink:

A huge thumbs up for that Mate! You really saved my day! :)

Btw, I have around 150 instructions for Piasini, and this was not in the lot. Does anybody have ALL of the instructions?

peregrine
13th June, 2012, 06:24 PM
A huge thumbs up for that Mate! You really saved my day! :)

Btw, I have around 150 instructions for Piasini, and this was not in the lot. Does anybody have ALL of the instructions?


I have a few but you seem to have a lot more. Would you be willing to share?

VTS_Tibi
22nd June, 2012, 09:00 PM
Ohh, naturally! Why not! Should I upload them here, or open a separate thread? :)

peregrine
23rd June, 2012, 03:15 AM
Great thanks for the reply, as I have quite a few and actually do help wrongly I assumed you might be willing to. Sorry for asking!

tor2lehel
8th October, 2012, 12:47 PM
please give your password to the archive
connections MAZDA.rar

psico
8th October, 2012, 08:14 PM
hi,

i need do subaru impreza sti 2.5 16v 300cv , its possible do by obd2??

thanks

VTS_Tibi
8th October, 2012, 08:26 PM
hi,

i need do subaru impreza sti 2.5 16v 300cv , its possible do by obd2??

thanks

Only with the Tactrix open port cable. My Piasini does not work with that ECU with the OBD cable.

OR connect your Piasini directly to the PCB.

Tereksaz
10th March, 2013, 02:40 PM
piasini pinout


1-VCC
2-TXD
3-AUDCK
4-OUT-? |JTAG
5-AUDRST
6-OUT-? |JTAG
7-IN-? |
8-IN-? |JTAG
9-IN-? |
10-AUDMD
11-AUDSYNC
12-AUDATA0
13-AUDATA1
14-AUDATA2
15-AUDATA3
16-SCK
17-IN-? |JTAG
18-12V -UNCONNECTED
19-RXD
20-GND
Who knows appointment 20 pin connector to Piasini
Pin 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 17 ????????????

veloseeped
10th March, 2013, 03:16 PM
Who knows appointment 20 pin connector to Piasini
Pin 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 17 ????????????

1 - Vbus (0-5V)
2 - TX RS232
3 - CLK
4 - SDO
5 - SRESET
6 - HRESET
7 - SDI
8 - VFL0
9 - VFL1
10 - TMS
11 - AUDSYNC
12 - DATA0
13 - DATA1
14 - DATA2
15 - DATA3
16 - OUTPUT
17 - INPUT
18 - PWR AUX
19 - RX RS232
20 - GND

ducatisti
10th March, 2013, 09:07 PM
Is it possible to read bdm ecus with piasini ?

Which ecus are read by j tag

pablo1971
10th March, 2013, 09:12 PM
can anyone help me.ive received a piasini clone.and i am trying to read a ecu on the bench.

ive used the keygen and im using master etc,all the screen is green,so it looks all good to go.

but when i try to identify a ecu,i get no id found.

ive also tried to wire the ecu direct to 12v on a battery etc,but still the same

can anyone help me please.

kevfield
10th March, 2013, 11:31 PM
Whats the ecu your trying to read ???

Thanks kev

pablo1971
10th March, 2013, 11:40 PM
its a mitsubishi L200-(OLD STYLE)

sorry dont have the piasini pdf at hand.

but ive tried to read this with no joy.I have tried this with tachtrix and i get id.

ducatisti
11th March, 2013, 12:21 PM
its a mitsubishi L200-(OLD STYLE)

sorry dont have the piasini pdf at hand.

but ive tried to read this with no joy.I have tried this with tachtrix and i get id.

I picked up a black one like that with the same issue.

The silver ones seem to be better

pablo1971
11th March, 2013, 07:49 PM
I picked up a black one like that with the same issue.

The silver ones seem to be better


were did you get the silver one from.

Tereksaz
11th March, 2013, 10:26 PM
4 - SDO
5 - SRESET
6 - HRESET
7 - SDI
8 - VFL0
9 - VFL1
20 - GND
=========
I have ECU 7L,VW Touareg -MPC556 :
connect to Xprog -M 5.0 as BDM - read ok.
connect to FG Tech 2 as BDM -read ok.
connect to Piasini - not read.
4,5,6,7,8,9 - it is not right pin BDM

ducatisti
12th March, 2013, 10:35 PM
4 - SDO
5 - SRESET
6 - HRESET
7 - SDI
8 - VFL0
9 - VFL1
20 - GND
=========
I have ECU 7L,VW Touareg -MPC556 :
connect to Xprog -M 5.0 as BDM - read ok.
connect to FG Tech 2 as BDM -read ok.
connect to Piasini - not read.
4,5,6,7,8,9 - it is not right pin BDM


Interesting. Does a pdf for piasini exist for a BDM ecu ?

If yes then the wires can be worked out.

Can somone find a MPC5xx pinout for piasini ?

veloseeped
12th March, 2013, 11:48 PM
connect to Piasini - not read.
4,5,6,7,8,9 - it is not right pin BDM

This pins names are absolutely correct for original box.
It's information direct from Rafaello - piasini's engineer and box designer.
But nobody promised and sucsessfuly tested that china clone will work in BDM-mode.:banghead:

ducatisti
13th March, 2013, 06:06 PM
This pins names are absolutely correct for original box.
It's information direct from Rafaello - piasini's engineer and box designer.
But nobody promised and sucsessfuly tested that china clone will work in BDM-mode.:banghead:


i wonder if the euro clone will succeed ?

i wonder if there are any euro clones left ?

s2000ye
13th March, 2013, 06:55 PM
i wonder if the euro clone will succeed ?

i wonder if there are any euro clones left ?


if anyone has this car near my home I can test it! I am between France and Germany....

Tereksaz
14th March, 2013, 11:26 PM
This pins names are absolutely correct for original box.
It's information direct from Rafaello - piasini's engineer and box designer.
But nobody promised and sucsessfuly tested that china clone will work in BDM-mode.:banghead:
I dont have original, but right pin for china clone:
3 ? SCK
4 - SDI
5 - SRESET
6 - HRESET
7 ? SDO
8 - VFL0
9 - VFL1
I test it. Read and write Ok!
Now need find list Jtag pin.
Tereksaz

jmcartec
14th March, 2013, 11:45 PM
Thanks
My next step will be test my 900 usd Piasini
Just to have another way for BDM edc16

ducatisti
15th March, 2013, 12:44 AM
I dont have original, but right pin for china clone:
3 ? SCK
4 - SDI
5 - SRESET
6 - HRESET
7 ? SDO
8 - VFL0
9 - VFL1
I test it. Read and write Ok!
Now need find list Jtag pin.
Tereksaz

Are you saying you have correct pin out for mpc5xx ecus and it work ?

Thanks

veloseeped
15th March, 2013, 01:01 AM
I dont have original, but right pin for china clone:
3 ***8211; SCK
4 - SDI
5 - SRESET
6 - HRESET
7 ***8211; SDO
8 - VFL0
9 - VFL1
I test it. Read and write Ok!
Now need find list Jtag pin.
Tereksaz

It's exactly the same as i gave above.
You MUST connect SDO pin on box to SDI pin on ECU and SDI on to SDO on ECU.
It's like you connect TXD on box to RXD on ECU
Can't imagine that you test first time connecting SDO to SDO and SDI to SDI. Of cause you will have failed test. :stupid:

Tereksaz
15th March, 2013, 06:24 AM
It's exactly the same as i gave above.
You MUST connect SDO pin on box to SDI pin on ECU and SDI on to SDO on ECU.
It's like you connect TXD on box to RXD on ECU
Can't imagine that you test first time connecting SDO to SDO and SDI to SDI. Of cause you will have failed test. :stupid:
***1042;***1077;***1083;***1086;***1089;***1080;** *1087;***1077;***1076;.
You can write - any what you want.
I have china clone Piasini ver 4.1
For it clone, to connect BDM need:

3 ? SCK
4 - SDI
5 - SRESET
6 - HRESET
7 ? SDO
8 - VFL0
9 - VFL1
for me - device work good.
for another type - I dont have another variant it davice.

Tereksaz

veloseeped
15th March, 2013, 01:32 PM
You can write - any what you want.
I have china clone Piasini ver 4.1
For it clone, to connect BDM need:

4 - SDI
7 ***8211; SDO

for another type - I dont have another variant it davice.



But you don't answer main question.
How was your final working connection according your pin names?
Named SDI on box to SDI on ECU?
Named SDO on box to SDO on ECU?
Or??

obnchip
15th March, 2013, 04:59 PM
piasini can read by obd suzuki swift 2006 1.3?

Tereksaz
15th March, 2013, 08:58 PM
But you don't answer main question.
How was your final working connection according your pin names?
Named SDI on box to SDI on ECU?
Named SDO on box to SDO on ECU?
Or??
u tupoy.
ya vse uge napisal.
kupi clone i vse uznaech/
velosiped - tvou mat6

veloseeped
15th March, 2013, 11:49 PM
u tupoy.
ya vse uge napisal.
kupi clone i vse uznaech/
velosiped - tvou mat6

You forget english?
Why not translate your "nice message" for all?
And we decide, who is "tupoy" and who is "prosto ham".

pollonzo
19th February, 2014, 04:03 PM
Yes, need to power ECU on table from external power supply.
Are you sure, that ECU have a SH7058 inside? May be, this is MH8305? What manufacter of ECU, Mitsubishi or Denso?

may be, attached info will help you

BR


Can you give me the password?
BR