dog pull on the lead ?

[skegsagypsy]

Does your dog pull on the lead ? As some of you may know I have a St Bernard who weighs over 10 stone, she walks perfectly on a loose lead that is until she sees another dog, then she pulls like a steam train to get to the other dog, I've had dogs all my life and would consider myself to be fairly decent at training them, but Holly my St had me stumped, that is until I found the Canny Collar, this thing has transformed my dog and I can now walk the ~~~~er without looking like a complete c?ck, it's a simple bit of kit to use and I am telling anyone who will listen about this collar, it really is genius!

[aleister crowley]

Jesus that thing looks like something Torquemada would have used.

My dog is 9 stone and had a brief problem until I used a chest harness. Doesn't the fact that she walks perfectly on a loose lead tell you something?

She's trying to be dominant. Pulling should have been stopped from an early age.

[Shady]

was just thinking that, ive never had to buy anything to stop a dog pulling, u just have to reinforce your role as the alpha from when they are pups.. if they know who the boss is, they'll act accordingly

[maca]

A dog that size can do what the ~~~~ it wants lol

[aleister crowley]

was just thinking that, ive never had to buy anything to stop a dog pulling, u just have to reinforce your role as the alpha from when they are pups.. if they know who the boss is, they'll act accordingly

I've always worked one 1 simple rule with a chest harness.
"If you can't control the dog then you shouldn't be walking the dog"

[aleister crowley]

A dog that size can do what the ~~~~ it wants lol

I've got a boxer/mastiff cross. Like the proverbial brick shthouse but she knows I'm the boss.

[happy_highlander]

I use a genkong on on my german shepherd. It's a bit like halti but instead of just a band round the nose it is shaped like figure of eight with one loop over the nose and the other high up the neck under the chin and behind the ears, she can be controlled by my six year old with this, as it constricts around the nose and neck with the softest of touches. It is also only half inch thick webbing and very light. This seems to give the impression to others she is well trained enough to not need restraining with a big thick lead and stops them giving us a wide berth.

[maca]

kinky ~~~~ers the lot of you lol

[aleister crowley]

I use a genkong on on my german shepherd. It's a bit like halti but instead of just a band round the nose it is shaped like figure of eight with one loop over the nose and the other high up the neck under the chin and behind the ears, she can be controlled by my six year old with this, as it constricts around the nose and neck with the softest of touches. It is also only half inch thick webbing and very light. This seems to give the impression to others she is well trained enough to not need restraining with a big thick lead and stops them giving us a wide berth.

So basically you torture her every time you take her for a walk.
That's just wrong.

I'm sorry but any owner who has to put some harness type device around a dogs face/nose area has raised the dog wrong.

[skegsagypsy]

I've got a boxer/mastiff cross. Like the proverbial brick shthouse but she knows I'm the boss.

I've no wish to be the boss of my dog, shes a pet,Friend,companion, and a member of my family, you use a Harness the Canny Collar is a similar effective device to assist in keeping control of a pet!

[skegsagypsy]

So basically you torture her every time you take her for a walk.
That's just wrong.

ffs wise up ! Go and troll somewhere else!

[happy_highlander]

So basically you torture her every time you take her for a walk.
That's just wrong.

Pmsl if they are not stupid ~~~~s they only pull once, no torture required

[aleister crowley]

I've no wish to be the boss of my dog, shes a pet,Friend,companion, and a member of my family, you use a Harness the Canny Collar is a similar effective device to assist in keeping control of a pet!

Sorry mate but I use my voice to control my dog not some medieval device.
As shady said,you're dog needs to understand who the alpha male is.

Get the basics right and none of your 'kit' is required. I was only pointing out where you have gone wrong with your dogs upbringing so there wasn't any need to accuse me of trolling.

[Shady]

, shes a pet,Friend,companion, and a member of my family, !
as is my dog, but as with children, they have to KNOW that YOU are in charge

[skegsagypsy]

Sorry mate but I use my voice to control my dog not some medieval device.
As shady said,you're dog needs to understand who the alpha male is.

Get the basics right and none of your 'kit' is required. I was only pointing out where you have gone wrong with your dogs upbringing so there wasn't any need to accuse me of trolling.

Sorry MATE, but I haven't gone wrong with my dog, she is a well behaved cared for pet, who, for whatever reason decides to greet other dogs in a highly excited manner, but here a deal, I'll pay your fare to visit my home and you can show me how to be "alpha male" but please be aware, if you take up my offer and touch my dog inappropriately, I absolve her bof all responsibility of what her reaction may be!:celtictop:

[ChelseaBun]

our dog pulls on the lead, we were too lenient on the training, but luckily our dogs a cavalier. not exactly gonna pull me out onto the road any time soon.

if we were to get a bigger dog at least we now know the hard work that in training is a must for owner and the dog :)

[happy_highlander]

So basically you torture her every time you take her for a walk.
That's just wrong.

I'm sorry but any owner who has to put some harness type device around a dogs face/nose area has raised the dog wrong.

After you have edited your post I see you really don't get the concept.....I don't have to use a harness around anything (certainly not a full chest harness) which I may add is probably 1 inch thick leather and studded to make your dog look tougher. The genkong is a light weight leader that allows a very small child (under strict supervision) to walk a very powerful dog with limited risk to members of the public, after all every dog has it's own brain and very limited social skills which means they can and do make the wrong decisions regardless of who is the boss. The genkong is a visual reassurance to people who don't know the dog that it doesn't need 3 kilos of leather around it's chest to allow the handler to stop it if anything goes wrong. And if you are one of these owners who think my dog wouldn't hurt anybody because I'm in charge, you are a fool.

[skegsagypsy]

as is my dog, but as with children, they have to KNOW that YOU are in charge

Do you feed your children in the garden out of a tin bowl ?

[Shady]

no, do you let your children run about by roads, because you dont have to be the boss of them?

[maca]

I raised 8 dogs with with no problems what so ever no biting no pulling or barking just right of the tin and into a pan then put on rolls with tomato sauce lovely :)

[ChelseaBun]

is that raised or braised maca? lol

[skegsagypsy]

no, do you let your children run about by roads, because you dont have to be the boss of them?

No, so we have something in common !

[maca]

~~~~in owners biting more than there dogs here lol

[happy_highlander]

as is my dog, but as with children, they have to KNOW that YOU are in charge

I completely agree shady but they do have there own mind and just the faith that will always obey is not enough with a dog that is capable of a huge amount of damage in a very short time. I agree with any aid that is not detrimental to the dog but gives whoever is in control of that dog that the feeling they have more control. This state of mind will be noticed by the dog and better behaviour will result whether be from the dog learning it can't pull or whether be from the confidence being shown be the handler

[Shady]

im not saying that faith is enough, im saying that i think a dog, if reared properly, will have no need of any aids other than a lead and collar to be kept under control.

[skegsagypsy]

Now, after all the nonsense, lets get back on track, this lead/collar has helped me walk my dog with no discomfort to her and no discomfort for me, I see that as a win/win, some may see it as cruel(I dont) some may have better qualities than me when it comes to pet dogs(good luck to you) but at the end of it all, I'm only giving a pointer to something that has helped me and hopefully others! make love not flame!

[aleister crowley]

There is a UNIVERSAL statement that is widely accepted by all dog owners.

"There is no such thing as a bad dog, only bad owners"

[skegsagypsy]

some folks just dont know when to give it a break do they lol not me ! Goodnight all, take care of your pets as its clear I dont! ~~~in knobs!!!!!!

[aleister crowley]

Now, after all the nonsense, lets get back on track, this lead/collar has helped me walk my dog with no discomfort to her

So you can speak to your dog? Go to the pub with a leather belt tied around your face and nose mate and see what you think of it.

[aleister crowley]

some folks just dont know when to give it a break do they lol not me ! Goodnight all, take care of your pets as its clear I dont! ~~~in knobs!!!!!!

Yes you don't. Night fud :thefinger:

[maca]

Everyone on this thread is a responsible dog owner. each has his or her way of raising there dog. not everyone follows the same rule what works for one person might not work for another the thing i think we all agree on is that we all care for our dogs ...

[ChelseaBun]

lol like kids, if your dogs not mauling anybody... you're doing something right :p :)

[happy_highlander]

There is a UNIVERSAL statement that is widely accepted by all dog owners.

"There is no such thing as a bad dog, only bad owners"




That is correct. None of us have said we have bad dogs but there are a lot of folks out there that don't have a lot of experience with dogs. My 6 year old is one of them, and with my method he can learn how to walk a dog which in turn gives him the pleasure to be had with dog ownership and a life lesson that a calm positive approach is the best attitude to any situation, but at the same time he is not going to be pulled of his feet in the split second it may take for me to give a voice command to restrain the dog if (and it has never happened) the dog makes it's own decision to run.

[aleister crowley]

That is correct. None of us have said we have bad dogs but there are a lot of folks out there that don't have a lot of experience with dogs. My 6 year old is one of them, and with my method he can learn how to walk a dog which in turn gives him the pleasure to be had with dog ownership and a life lesson that a calm positive approach is the best attitude to any situation, but at the same time he is not going to be pulled of his feet in the split second it may take for me to give a voice command to restrain the dog if (and it has never happened) the dog makes it's own decision to run.

The fact that you let a 6yr old child walk a German Shepherd says enough in itself.

[happy_highlander]

The fact that you let a 6yr old child walk a German Shepherd says enough in itself.

If you had looked at the earlier post he walks a very well behaved dog under very strict supervision, and believe me I am the alpha male. Every child should be given the feeling of responsibility it allows confidence to develop and will stop him thinking that he needs to slap a leather harness on a big dog to create a status symbol. Dogs are pets first and foremost and my children are my life if I can use my knowledge of a particular breed to raise another responsible dog owner, because correct me if I'm wrong but we have all agreed dogs and children learn there boundaries from an early age.

[aleister crowley]

Every child should be given the feeling of responsibility it allows confidence to develop and will stop him thinking that he needs to slap a leather harness on a big dog to create a status symbol

"I use a genkong on on my german shepherd. It's a bit like halti but instead of just a band round the nose it is shaped like figure of eight with one loop over the nose and the other high up the neck under the chin and behind the ears"

So you slap a leather harness on your dog to stop him thinking he needs to slap a leather harness on your dog?

Not quite sure of the logic in that.

[happy_highlander]

"I use a genkong on on my german shepherd. It's a bit like halti but instead of just a band round the nose it is shaped like figure of eight with one loop over the nose and the other high up the neck under the chin and behind the ears"

So you slap a leather harness on your dog to stop him thinking he needs to slap a leather harness on your dog?

Not quite sure of the logic in that.

You need to try reading things properly.....there is no leather involved....it is a very lightweight half inch wide leader made from material webbing and it is the positioning of the lead that gives the control, in fact it is similar in design to a headset for a horse (in terms of positioning) without the bit in the mouth. They make the dog responsive to very gentle touches by turning the dogs head to the side distracting them from whatever they are focusing on. No need to manhandle or pull sharply on a lead around the throat

[skegsagypsy]

^ Your never going to get through m8 lol

[lagerland]

I had a border collie not so long ago he pulled like a train also he was a bit snappy as a pup............

We got him a plastic muzzle witch i modified so the lead connected to it and not the collar and it cured the problem..........

In theory he cured himself dogs only pull when they look straight ahead as soon as ther heads turn they dont pull he soon got the hang of it took about six months as i recall..................

[happy_highlander]

I had a border collie not so long ago he pulled like a train also he was a bit snappy as a pup............

We got him a plastic muzzle witch i modified so the lead connected to it and not the collar and it cured the problem..........

In theory he cured himself dogs only pull when they look straight ahead as soon as ther heads turn they dont pull he soon got the hang of it took about six months as i recall..................

Exactly the theory behind my method mate, a dog follows it's nose, turn that and they have to change their mindset to reevaluate