New Garden Fish Pond

[gazz10]

Wife decided she wanted trampoline gone and fish pond put in, as per usual she wanted it done there and then, so over weekend i created it.


Still loads to do to make it way i want it but its taking shape.

A few tank gold fish in it the now, will get a few koi carp, lights and bits and pieces...



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[cactikid]

ps.dont forget the shotgun for the herons they love a free meal,oops forgot the gnome with a sign on his back gone fishing lol
goldfish are usually indoor are they not,it be cold out there for the poor coldfish,how big is the pool/pond and how deep,looks big enough for the wife if she peeves ya off.

[gazz10]

yeah got a few ornaments, net in place now too, so i should be good. me hopes

[daithi]

goldfish will live anywhere the cousin had a tank in the house tank broke had nowhere to stick the fish as there was quiet a few
has a big barrel in his field for the horses to drink from
~~~~ed the fish in there about 4 years agoo and there still alive in it the water is never changed just toped up and the survived the last 2 cold winters in ireland with the water well froze

[Grizz]

there are dozens of them in a big old cattle trough not too far from me(still in use by cattle), big fat fcukers. supposed to have been there for a very long time(pre sexing so they bred)

[aftermath]

dont forget to add a cross for when you want to bury the missus lol

[gazz10]

latest update.



New additions to pond, got a 14 inch ghost carp added it today with a few other 4-6 inch mix variety


And now am planning of building bigger pond/raised pond 8x4x4 or on there abouts.

Heading buzzing been reading up all day, about what way to go, block or timber, liner or grp .....


Am sure over next few days i will lighter in pocket...(wish i never opened my mouth, will post few pic's of the koi ghost

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/558469_325087177547215_100001378059495_826835_1475 209451_n.jpg


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[Evastar]

if you are buying expensive fish, you have to be careful about introducing them into an environment with other fish. one sick fish could wipe out your entire collection.

looks great though, i always wanted a garden pond, haven't got one yet :)

[gazz10]

yeah will be getting a few expensive koi, but knowing where they come from and the breeder helps alot, a fw up my neck of the woods, and a few decent farms that i have spoke to few people regarding there fish.

Well going bigger, started the new build today, 8ft x 4ft by 5ft deep.

She pops out and has a look , and says i want it wider lol.....


so have to rip it out and restart tomoz after i get more timber..

[cactikid]

so does that mean she wants it 16 x 4 x 5 lol,hehehe more digging.

[gazz10]

No digging involved raised pond made with 4x4 timber, just as well i over sized the liner when i bought it, as i knew she would change her mind.

[gazz10]

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these were taken earlier. We now at 3feet depth, ran low on material so build stopped till tomoz.

Another foot in depth, then ply inside, then insulate then i can begin with all the good stuff like fitting liner and test filling :)

[cactikid]

what no pool lights and bench in the jacuzzi lol

[gazz10]

I wasnt aloud the hottub/jacuzzi.


Did try and convince her, told her it would be great in the summer(that one day a year we get).

[gazz10]

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getting there, just another 2 layers to go.

Hit problems today, tried to get rebar, and none of builder merchants up my way do it. So having to wait till tomoz and contact local steel place.

[neilsignum]

Don't get any more Fish!
Your pond is only going to be just big enough to suit the fish you already have.
An 8'x4' pond is 32 sq feet of surface area and the guidance is for an inch of fish for every sq foot of surface, so as you already have one 14" fish, that leaves only 18" of 'spare capacity' which is probably about right for the other 4 fish you have that are 4-6".
Also I can see loads of koi sticks floating around the edge, the water is likely way too cold to feed them yet, if they do take the food it is likely they wont be able to digest it and it can do them real harm as at low temperatures it is just rotting in their gut.
Water temperature needs to have been above 10C/50F for 2 weeks before putting food in (and just a quarter of the sticks I can see) and never let any stay in the water more than 20 minutes to pollute it - it'll be rancid enough in that little pond with so many fish and only a waterfall for circulation and aeration, any filter you might have under those stones can't possibly be anywhere near big enough for that stocking level.

To do it properly you really need a filter about 10% of the pond size so 16cu ft (ish) of filtration, a pump that will shift about 1/2-3/4 of the water in an hour (ish), also a UV clarifier (not instead of filters) probably a cyclone unit before the filters to separate out all the crud (or you'll be cleaning foam forever).
A ready built unit the Cloverleaf CL1V is a good filter combo and very compact at about 2 foot cube so actually 50% undersized but 'punches above it's weight' and a snip at ?350 (plus media) and might just be good enough - obviously you still need the pump and clarifier and pipe (and safe power out there).
Spend at least ?70-100 on UV (15W+) and a pump (depends on head of water, if pump on floor then 5' head to waterline - if filter in ground then 7' etc but filter needs about 500-800gallons an hour but that's at whatever the head will be (say about ?200).
Do not buy any filter with hozelock or lotus written on it as they are only toys.
Oh and the pond will cost ?100 a year in electricity too.
Strengthen the corner plates as you'll have over 4 ton of water in there...

[gazz10]

thanks for advice neilsignum.

took most of it onboard.

its a 25w uv am using. the filter is 5 stage kockney koi mega xl.

pump is PISCES INTREPID 12000
Flowrate: 12000 lph (2600 gph)
Flowrate at 1m lift:10000 lph (2200 gph)
Max lift: 5m

the pond was strengthened with rebar from top to bottom, and 1ft apart, it was then sheeted with ply to spread the weight of water.

also fitted retro bottom drain so it should keep the water pretty clean. New waterfall is 900mm long stainless thing so will help with aerate the water plus putting air pump Max pond volume: 4500 litres (1000 gallons)
Max depth: 1.4m (4ft 6in).

[gazz10]

sheeted

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/551919_333041546751778_100001378059495_847078_1124 667299_n.jpg


Underlay just went in

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liner put in place
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filling it up. bottom retro drain in place
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[andy1967]

Thought there was hosepipe ban on lol

[gazz10]

latest pics.

waterfall in place, testing out the water flow

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started to cap top of it off.

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She started to decorate it all ready.


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[cactikid]

tut tut ,no lifebuoy on display:puke::viking:

[maca]

tut tut ,no lifebuoy on display:puke::viking:
he's not getting washed in it lol

[gazz10]

he's not getting washed in it lol

cheecky ******

[cactikid]

was not talking about the soap lol,the big donut thingy that floats hehehe.with lead weight as an extra.

[gazz10]

Starting to take shape, put pergola up, still few panels to fix.

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[neilsignum]

thanks for advice neilsignum.


the filter is 5 stage kockney koi mega xl.

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That filter is a toy, its way too small, the fish length figures given are complete rubbish! Water surface area limits the fish length and is the same for goldies or koi (but you do need more depth for koi overwintering) - goldies may survive poor conditions better but that's just cruelty.

[gazz10]

water still crystal clear, and all levels are good, but yes going to upgrade filter, taking the goldies out and putting into new pond that will start next month for my daughter.

As for wintering well got a 6.5kw heater yes over kill(elecro), could have did job with 2-3 kw. so will be introducing that over next few weeks.

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latest addition me new chagoi


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just finished painting it all, and started to put debris netting up to keep those pesky birds away n leaves n stuff.

[cactikid]

thats not good,leaving a bottle of water there for mutt to lift his leg lol,flavoured water.

[gazz10]

lol flavoured water. she not lift her leg.

[cactikid]

well i wont mention a sex toy lol

[Feivel200]

i like your waterfall.. can you make a Picture from the inside?

[gazz10]

i like your waterfall.. can you make a Picture from the inside?


from the inside of what.

[gazz10]

its just like

http://www.primrose.co.uk/images/waterfall-cascade-blade-ban.jpg

and i just enclosed it with decking.

[cactikid]

or post for download lol

[cactikid]

nothing crafty ~~~~er spent the wifes money instead lol

[gazz10]

Nice job that gazz :top:

Now tells us what you spent in ???? so far.

JoK

in total just over 2k, that with fish etc.

[gazz10]

Feeding - YouTube

[cactikid]

are you growing spuds yet?

[gazz10]

lol, nah but got the cabbage on the now.

Been feding them oranges,melon etc and soon as it in pond they all up..Loads of other vids will have to upload them

[cactikid]

was thinking fish and chips lol

[gazz10]

lol fish n chips.




all my fish dont deserve to be wrapped in newspaper. and anyway would put the cost of supper up tenfold or more.

And there no eating in koi

[neilsignum]

lol fish n chips.




all my fish dont deserve to be wrapped in newspaper. and anyway would put the cost of supper up tenfold or more.

And there no eating in koi

The Polish eat carp (including Koi) for Xmas dinner also some less than ethical carp fisheries stock ponds with Doitsu, and a formal garden pond with hand tame fish is much easier for 'fishing' from than in a proper shelving pond - not always the Heron that gets the fish...

[gazz10]

latest addition to the family

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sterlet approx 7 inch. Still loads n loads of growing to be done :)

[cactikid]

i like shark fishing,gives them the chance to eat you lol

[gazz10]

The Polish eat carp (including Koi) for Xmas dinner also some less than ethical carp fisheries stock ponds with Doitsu, and a formal garden pond with hand tame fish is much easier for 'fishing' from than in a proper shelving pond - not always the Heron that gets the fish...

Again am still learning.. as for fishing and not heron, well pond full enclosed and not lost a fish, to heron or others.

took ur advice on board and sourcing a nexus 200, could go for the eazy pod but am looking at the bigger picture, if i go bigger.

[gazz10]

i like shark fishing,gives them the chance to eat you lol

lol shark fishing that sterlet does look like from shark family, but its really tame and loves to be handled

[gazz10]

bought two new pumps badu top 8 one wil run the bottom drain to filter housing. other will be skimer to bakki , in progress of doiong the bakki. got a holding tank and hailea air pump , tried it out this thing can blow up car wheels..... just need the time and weather to set it all up.

noticed a huge difference in the fish from when i bought til know.

[crish]

Hi dear there is no doubt that garden is essential need of every society it give us a lot of oxygen which is necessary for living and secure us from many type of diseases..

[tornado]

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll241/tornadojay/pond/100_0787.jpg
Your end up going bigger we all do in the end with keeping koi and as long as your water tests fine your be ok.

[gazz10]

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll241/tornadojay/pond/100_0787.jpg
Your end up going bigger we all do in the end with keeping koi and as long as your water tests fine your be ok.

already planning bigger got 14ft by 8ft to play with well depth not an issue, also in talks of doing mud pond up at local stables...


water never been issue. best thing i bougt was the badu pumps

[gazz10]

Well latest update on pond....

Purchased a Nexus 300 filter.

managed to pick it up quite cheap, it came with a aquamax eco 8000, tmc 55w uv, 45w airpump, and various odds and ends of pipework etc.


Plumbed it in late last night and wow, already loving it.. Will Tweak it this weekend and hardwire the elecs in



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