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dollarbill
22nd May, 2012, 06:00 PM
hello for all

i would you like start activity chiptuning
usually i do a dashboard & kill immo & diagnose
what i need tool the original not clone ?
I do not want to improvise or do by another
I want to learn for i do alone for answer the specific request of the customer
please say me what i do for good learn and which product for start

thanks in advance for answer

(si un francais peut m'orienter ca serai un peu plus simple)

ominimicu
22nd May, 2012, 07:01 PM
l'?nglais est la langue officiele de c'?st forum.

A MPPS v12 clone would do good, and you need to learn winOls. For begining the ECm form alitench will sirve good.

get the software, and you can find original files here, to start playing with

dollarbill
22nd May, 2012, 07:27 PM
big thanks for answer i see the mpps on www.amtcartech.com (http://www.amtcartech.com) you think is good product for start?
i'm not for use clone but i have clone for dash etc... and my experience learn me the clone is not good not have support.
another tools advised me thanks

spawns3
22nd May, 2012, 10:25 PM
You have a long way to go.
Start by knowing how the mechanics work, the injection system "combustion explosion"and admission. And only then with WinOLS.
This is just an opinion.

bondiblu
22nd May, 2012, 11:20 PM
You have a long way to go.
Start by knowing how the mechanics work, the injection system "combustion explosion"and admission. And only then with WinOLS.
This is just an opinion.
Its a good opinion. Being able to change a few hex values means nothing, unless you know what effect the changes have on the hardware, and the limits the harware has.

ominimicu
23rd May, 2012, 12:05 AM
Mpps clone works better than the original :D

spawns3
23rd May, 2012, 12:09 AM
Mpps clone works better than the original :D


If the men ask for a original tool tell him to buy Magpro2 , CMD or FGtech 2 original . And then buy a mpps it's a good tool and very easy to use.

Dane-Elec
23rd May, 2012, 12:13 AM
And what aboat GALLETTO 2 ?

maglaras
23rd May, 2012, 01:26 PM
original is original
never can make clone work like original
for me the beter tolls for chituning is byteshooter
and i have many original tolls and many clone tolls

dollarbill
23rd May, 2012, 02:00 PM
thanks for all answer


You have a long way to go.
Start by knowing how the mechanics work, the injection system "combustion explosion"and admission. And only then with WinOLS.
This is just an opinion.
i'm not a stupid guy :D i can do a chiptuning i know mechanic work but i would do a very good work for answer a specific request a customer.me i do only very good job
i don't know do bad work i am maniac :D
please how much original license for winols?

I always programming the chip is the same for me but i never use winols and modify cartograhy i'm newbie for this i would desactivate FAP



If the men ask for a original tool tell him to buy Magpro2 , CMD or FGtech 2 original . And then buy a mpps it's a good tool and very easy to use.
yes i use the clone and i like when have the support the clone not have support


original is original
never can make clone work like original
for me the beter tolls for chituning is byteshooter
and i have many original tolls and many clone tolls
yes yes yes

i start with mpps for a test and learn and i will see later for other tools
what software to measure performance a car it's winols

maglaras
23rd May, 2012, 03:27 PM
win ols is TOP

snecii
23rd May, 2012, 04:38 PM
THANKS!!!!

dollarbill
23rd May, 2012, 06:41 PM
how much the license for winols please and if someone got a link official a software
thanks

ecoalpes
23rd May, 2012, 08:50 PM
EVC electronic - The Tools For Chiptuning (http://www.evc.de/en/default.asp)

avtonega
23rd May, 2012, 10:51 PM
Visit:

IB Tronic (http://www.ibtronic.it/eng/index.html)

But, I`s not for free like here on DK