help keys w210 big black key

[m3m5]

hi mates!

Car had got two keys, big old modelkey.
Keys don't open, close, and when put key in eis don't work, don't recognize keys.

One key, broke it time ago. Second key you insert key in eis, moved slowly left-right key and sometimes recognize key and start.

i have opened tow keys, coil has got 4 contacts down but all it's ok. Coil has got continuity.

now don't work 2 keys. Maybe eis broke? broked 2 keys?

thanks!!

[leandroks]

It is possible to have two broken keys but the probability is wide when talking about the ezs, the best way to get it sorted is to read the 0D69J inside the ezs and post, i ll have a look if the dump is ok and if u want calculate new keys to test...

[m3m5]

thanks mate, i will read ezs and post here.

do you know if could see if keys works with star diagnosis??

[leandroks]

all u can do with star is the last key used but to do that u have to switch the ignition on, what takes u to "0" point again...

[MarkPRP]

Keys are finished.

Reprogram 0f28b inside with new or repaired data

Read 0d69j/1d69j inside Ezs and post for keys


Mark

[m3m5]

Hi!!

this ezs has got 2 0d69j

one mask zc410699cfu
194195 kw52/96
0D69J

other
zc410710CFU
194354 kw52/96
0D69J

which need read??
thanks

[bram380]

read cpu1 #194195

[leandroks]

U can read any1 makes no difference but to be pratical u can read the outside one...

[m3m5]

hi mates i appreciate your help !
I can't do this jod without you.

I'm tring to read this mcu with xprog, but always sadi device it's silent, timeout error. I have check cables, and wires, I think it's OK.

I have read in DK that need external power with 15v???
Other question, in xprog schematic are 2 GND, one black, one white, 2 pins down. For read this mask, where connect GND? black or white?

thanks!!

[MarkPRP]

Remove mcu from Ezs.

If you read Incircuit you will destroy all data!!!!!





Mark

[m3m5]

I removed mcu.

readed with omega. This is dump.

[koncimobil]

Make a new key with this data:

[m3m5]

thanks for generate keys!!

only a question.
i need new key but 021 or 051? inside this folder are keys 0 1 3 5 7 i need try one by one?

chip inside key is 0F52B motorola.

[MarkPRP]

Use 011, 041 direct to 0f28b

Or idmusing IR use 051


Mark

[m3m5]

I have writte folder 021 key1 used in 0f82B

key don't work. Try other not used?

thanks

[PierreTheron]

Just use 051 for old type keys..

[smayer]

Read the second line in processor, if the last numbers are 001, use .011 dump, if the last numbers are 021, 041 or 2070, use .021 dump. If the last number are 051 or 2004 use .051 dump.
In small key with NEC chip use .051 dump.

[m3m5]

I understood 051 only for small nec.



I had this document

If you work with old type keys with Motorola processor you may encounter three different dump versions

Var 1: MA 567 880 011
Line 000000
14 EC 00 66 11 BD 8D BE 63 F3 98 F5 62 67 B0 01


var 2: MA 567 880 021 - MA567880041 - 656 167 20 70
Line 090
01 01 01 01 FF FF FF FF 7D 08 36 81 25 61 14 EC


Var3 MA 567 880 051 - 654 367 2004
Line 60
EE 7E 2B A9 58 BB EE 78 95 7F FF FF FF FF FF FF
Line 90
00 00 00 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 14 EC

Incorrect version writte keys don't work.



I have see my dump, nothing it's like this. Second line, at the end, has got 001 but our friend DK member only posted 041 051

[bram380]

what type your mcu?

[m3m5]

what type your mcu?

0f82b
MA 567 880 011

[smayer]

0f82b
MA 567 880 011

I think it's easy, you need .011 dump.
I can provide if you need.

[m3m5]

yes, of course i need hahahahaha

021 don't work
051 don't work

[smayer]

yes, of course i need hahahahaha

021 don't work
051 don't work

post the key to convert to .011

[smayer]

yes, of course i need hahahahaha

021 don't work
051 don't work

your keys by SKC in .011 format.
vale una cubata :)

[m3m5]

hahahahha one cubata or two mate!!!

keys don't work.
I have writte key 3 in one key and 5 in second key.
put key, in ezs, nothings happen!!

[MarkPRP]

Is the red light on the key lit when in Ezs?

Did you put in and out 6 times?

Do the keys read via IR on tester ( key no, status, ssid, remark etc??)

How are you powering Ezs up? On bench or in car??


Mark

[m3m5]

thanks.

Keys, i don't put 6 times, I don't know this.
I powered ezs in car. Red light in key don't shine.

where could buy good tool, ir tester for this keys??? my tester only shine diode when get signal, don't give any information.

I had got in my garage key smaller with nec inside. I have written key with 051. Key start car inmediatly but don't open-close because it's frequency not infrared.

[smayer]

you can't use the same key number you have used in NEC key, use a different one. Try insert the key and check if red light stay on, if yes then whait one minute, then remove the key and insert again, if dont work try remove and insert the key more times.

[m3m5]

in 2 old keys, big black, i wrotte 011, key 3 and key 5 maked for you. I have Inserted in ezs light don't work. I have insert key 2-3 times, not 6 times. I will try insert more times.

One key when press buttom for open, close red light shine 1 second. Other key red light always off, press buttom but nothing happen.


My Nec key, I have wrotte 051 key 1. I inserted key and red light was on 3,4 seconds, then red light off. I removed key, insert again and works, car start perfectly.

[smayer]

in 2 old keys, big black, i wrotte 011, key 3 and key 5 maked for you. I have Inserted in ezs light don't work. I have insert key 2-3 times, not 6 times. I will try insert more times.

One key when press buttom for open, close red light shine 1 second. Other key red light always off, press buttom but nothing happen.


My Nec key, I have wrotte 051 key 1. I inserted key and red light was on 3,4 seconds, then red light off. I removed key, insert again and works, car start perfectly.

Maybe the problem is in your programer, what tool you use to write the keys?

[m3m5]

I have got original omega.

months ago i wrotte this mcu 0F82b in other W 210 without problems.

Perhaps keys are broken? where could buy this key?? In spain dealer are 230 eur. I wil try insert keys more times in ezs.

[smayer]

Buy used NEC small keys and new sheels.

[m3m5]

how can adapt plip in this car??

I wrotte chip nec small key and car starting, but can't open close with plip.
nec key it's frequency and old key it's infrared

[m3m5]

Problem Solved! Nec key today works.

Small key with nec today works, open close and start car.

Perhaps need 10 minutes for work remote control.

thank you very much for your attention!!