View Full Version : buying v+duo
john1509
18th June, 2012, 10:36 PM
hi guys were is the best place to buy a duo? i see there are clone ones out there are they any good has anyone got one?
portbhoy
18th June, 2012, 10:55 PM
I've got 2 and yes they are fine, although I have had to replace a PSU in one and the fans in both. To be honest tho world of satellite has them for 289 which is a lot cheaper now and nearer the price of the clone at around 200 but the choice is yours is it worth the risk for 89 quid?
damiensk
18th June, 2012, 11:47 PM
i also have a clone, have had no psu issues.
just like portbhoy, i also have fan issue. it runs, but needs a flick to get it to run.
they have started getting cheaper, probably because there is a new version due out soon, so expect prices to fall.
should get a bargain.
cactikid
19th June, 2012, 12:16 AM
how many people have damaged psu boards,is it worth the risk?send back to china if faulty or buy original in uk.
digicon
19th June, 2012, 12:22 AM
with the current exchange rate a clone direct from china in around 4 days cots ?171 so a saving of ?118 on an original and not ?89 that has been stated.
Although with the current spate of PSU problems is it worth the saving over an original.
cactikid
19th June, 2012, 12:25 AM
or let them buy cheap then pay twice.
RuberDuck
19th June, 2012, 02:03 AM
with the current exchange rate a clone direct from china in around 4 days cots ?171 so a saving of ?118 on an original and not ?89 that has been stated.
Although with the current spate of PSU problems is it worth the saving over an original.
and by that same note with the current exchange rate you can buy a original Vu+ Duo from Germany for ?240.
the man
19th June, 2012, 02:09 AM
and by that same note with the current exchange rate you can buy a original Vu+ Duo from Germany for ?240.
link pleases, i must say if i knew how good the the vix image was i would had saved up a bit longer
RuberDuck
19th June, 2012, 02:15 AM
There are a shit load of reputable german retailers available this being just one of them.
http://www.satmedia.info/en/HDTV-Receivers/VU/VU-Duo.html
it's down as 299 euro's run that through a currency converter and it comes out as ?240.
http://www.xe.com/ucc/
RuberDuck
19th June, 2012, 02:37 AM
link pleases, i must say if i knew how good the the vix image was i would had saved up a bit longer
It's also worth pointing out that any receiver bought in Germany also comes with a standard and legally binding 2 year warranty, where as we in the uk only have to provide a minimum 1 year warranty.
so the question you should be asking is why buy cheap Chinese clone shite for ?171 which in all likelihood will arrive and blow up within a few weeks then cost you any thing up to another ?100 to either send it back to china or buy another cheap arsed PSU when for ?240 you can have a original receiver with a full 2 year warranty ?.
carbandit
19th June, 2012, 12:41 PM
?240 is great price for a duo but maybe the price will come down even further when these babies are availible.rumoured priced to be ?400 ish for the duo. ....
wingunners
19th June, 2012, 11:11 PM
There are a shit load of reputable german retailers available this being just one of them.
http://www.satmedia.info/en/HDTV-Receivers/VU/VU-Duo.html
it's down as 299 euro's run that through a currency converter and it comes out as ?240.
http://www.xe.com/ucc/
I'm going to order from there, silly question but all duos come with two tuners right?. And secondly will this supplier give the newer remotes the universal ones to control tv?
cactikid
19th June, 2012, 11:26 PM
yes its a 2 tuner box,you would have to double check with them about remote,so you wont be buying old stock.
ricescooper
20th June, 2012, 01:16 AM
There are a shit load of reputable german retailers available this being just one of them.
http://www.satmedia.info/en/HDTV-Receivers/VU/VU-Duo.html
it's down as 299 euro's run that through a currency converter and it comes out as ?240.
http://www.xe.com/ucc/
I'm really considering getting a vu+ duo from Germany but is this company decent and reliable? Are these models guaranteed not to be clones?
trance
20th June, 2012, 07:40 AM
wingrunners, keep us updated regrding the remotes, cheers
digicon
20th June, 2012, 09:07 AM
For those considering buying a Duo from Germany also consider that if it arrives faulty or develops a fault down the line then the cost of sending it back will be considerably more than a UK retailer, Is it worth it saving ?49
wingunners
20th June, 2012, 09:59 AM
sending to germany costs ?10
RuberDuck
20th June, 2012, 02:05 PM
For those considering buying a Duo from Germany also consider that if it arrives faulty or develops a fault down the line then the cost of sending it back will be considerably more than a UK retailer, Is it worth it saving ?49
compared to the ?80+ of sending it back to china you mean ?. you just cant say a bad word against clones can you ?
its worth the two year warranty alone
ricescooper
20th June, 2012, 06:13 PM
For those considering buying a Duo from Germany also consider that if it arrives faulty or develops a fault down the line then the cost of sending it back will be considerably more than a UK retailer, Is it worth it saving ?49
TBH mate for a two year warranty and saving ?49 I would happily buy from a reliable online store in germany. There is no risk involved IMO.
digicon
20th June, 2012, 10:54 PM
compared to the ?80+ of sending it back to china you mean ?. you just cant say a bad word against clones can you ?
its worth the two year warranty alone
Did you actually read what i wrote, I am actually all for originals my point was for the ?49 saving if you got a faulty one from germany it would cost a lot more to send back for repair than it would to buy an official one over here and send that back to UK mainland.
Clones are fine as long as you know what your getting into, Originals are fine too you pay what you want full stop.
meggiedude
21st June, 2012, 04:43 PM
sending to germany costs ?10
Where's this via m8?
john1509
21st June, 2012, 09:53 PM
hi guys just to let you all know have orderd one from world of sat should get it next week tx for all the imput
cactikid
21st June, 2012, 09:59 PM
what about a hard drive for recording,as they can fit and flash image of your choice,easier to have it fitted first
portbhoy
22nd June, 2012, 01:00 AM
If your fitting a hard drive dont get a 3.5 get a 2.5 they're quieter and produce less heat and at the end of the day it's the same thing.
IAmATeaf
22nd June, 2012, 10:48 AM
I recently fitted a 2.5" HDD to my box, there are no mounting holes for a 2.5", well there aren't on a clone.
I ended up drilling some holes in the HDD mounting plate, took me bloody ages as I somehow managed to 2 of the holes wrong but I was determined that the drill and drill bit would be the only tools I'd use to correct.
lombard
22nd June, 2012, 11:05 AM
I recently fitted a 2.5" HDD to my box, there are no mounting holes for a 2.5", well there aren't on a clone.
I ended up drilling some holes in the HDD mounting plate, took me bloody ages as I somehow managed to 2 of the holes wrong but I was determined that the drill and drill bit would be the only tools I'd use to correct.
hi, i also installed a 2.5 inch on vu duo, just used cable ties ,
IAmATeaf
22nd June, 2012, 12:18 PM
hi, i also installed a 2.5 inch on vu duo, just used cable ties ,
Now why didn't I think of that? I thought about using velcro but then decided as the sun was out a man needs his cordless drill :)
I also didn't realise that the SATA and power connectors on the 2.5" drive are exactly the same as those on a 3.5" drive. So I drilled the holes, screwed the drive in and then started looking on ebay for an adapter, then couldn't find any so did a bit more digging and then had a DOH! moment.
brione
22nd June, 2012, 05:38 PM
It may sound daft but I fitted the 2.5 drive I used with blutak it keeps it up to stay cool also works as deafening no metal to metal and easy to remove.
IAmATeaf
22nd June, 2012, 06:10 PM
So I spend literally hours getting 4 holes to line up with the HDD and others have achieved the same using cable ties and blutak:giveup:
ricescooper
22nd June, 2012, 06:40 PM
I've not got a duo yet but would 3.5" to 2.5" adapter work?
brione
22nd June, 2012, 07:11 PM
Connector on 2.5 drive is same as 3.5 so no need for adapter.
digicon
22nd June, 2012, 07:36 PM
I've not got a duo yet but would 3.5" to 2.5" adapter work?
yes if you want to install the 2.5" drive correctly buy a cradle adaptor and save doing it the blue peter way lol
Connector on 2.5 drive is same as 3.5 so no need for adapter.
he means the metal cradle not the sata plugs i think :-)
ricescooper
22nd June, 2012, 07:40 PM
yes if you want to install the 2.5" drive correctly buy a cradle adaptor and save doing it the blue peter way lol
he means the metal cradle not the sata plugs i think :-)
Yes I was meaning the cradle to fit a 2.5" drive into a bigger 3.5" space so the drive is safe and secure.
IAmATeaf
22nd June, 2012, 10:52 PM
Why waste money on a cradle?
Just get a drill out or cable ties or blutak :)
alec
22nd June, 2012, 11:41 PM
I put a 3.5 1TB in, and I can't hear the fan, or have any heat problems.
blueflash234
23rd June, 2012, 02:10 PM
i think the german route is the way to go theres also this site http://www.satboerse24.de/ who are doing duo's for 292 euros +20 euro's postage worth it for a 2 year piece of mind guarantee + a fully working psu,, but you would have to check the remote ?
Lyrrad
25th June, 2012, 03:38 AM
Last time I looked and translated Amazon.de it was being sold by Amazon themselves or maybe one of those forfilled by Amazon deals. Either way, if im right, thats got to be the best way to buy from Germany. If it fails within 2 years Amazon.de should replace it if they can and link you to a prepaid dhl(or whatever) shipping label. If they can't replace they should offer money back. Thats how it would work in the UK
I still haven't bought this yet and it would be nice if a UK supplier could match this kind of pricing. Definitely been put off by the clones
EDIT: As I thought amazon.de order is direct from Amazon. The delivered price is ?259.87 with a 2 year warranty. Is a ?30 saving with an extra year's warranty worth buying from Germany? It's borderline IMHO
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clem58
26th June, 2012, 03:51 PM
There are a shit load of reputable german retailers available this being just one of them.
http://www.satmedia.info/en/HDTV-Receivers/VU/VU-Duo.html
it's down as 299 euro's run that through a currency converter and it comes out as ?240.
http://www.xe.com/ucc/
Lovely job, thanks for pointer to this site.:cheers:
RuberDuck
26th June, 2012, 06:06 PM
Last time I looked and translated Amazon.de it was being sold by Amazon themselves or maybe one of those forfilled by Amazon deals. Either way, if im right, thats got to be the best way to buy from Germany. If it fails within 2 years Amazon.de should replace it if they can and link you to a prepaid dhl(or whatever) shipping label. If they can't replace they should offer money back. Thats how it would work in the UK
I still haven't bought this yet and it would be nice if a UK supplier could match this kind of pricing. Definitely been put off by the clones
EDIT: As I thought amazon.de order is direct from Amazon. The delivered price is ?259.87 with a 2 year warranty. Is a ?30 saving with an extra year's warranty worth buying from Germany? It's borderline IMHO
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well in my opinion it is fully worth it for a fully original receiver with the added warranty. also if you are buying then get in quick as i have been told that there is very limited stock on these now and Vu may be soon ceasing further production ( not confirmed yet ) on these older models.
meggiedude
26th June, 2012, 09:12 PM
well in my opinion it is fully worth it for a fully original receiver with the added warranty. also if you are buying then get in quick as i have been told that there is very limited stock on these now and Vu may be soon ceasing further production ( not confirmed yet ) on these older models.
Doesn't that mean the prices will start to tumble as they try and shift old stock.
If there's something new in the pipeline that's what generally happens - for all products.
RuberDuck
26th June, 2012, 09:57 PM
Doesn't that mean the prices will start to tumble as they try and shift old stock.
If there's something new in the pipeline that's what generally happens - for all products.
i would not think so. if they cease production several months before launching the new models creating a limited stock situation. although at this point it is just speculation.
ricescooper
2nd July, 2012, 01:20 AM
I took the plunge tonight from amazon.de ?260 delivered and a 2 year warranty. It should be here for Thursday at the latest.
blueflash234
2nd July, 2012, 09:35 AM
well in my opinion it is fully worth it for a fully original receiver with the added warranty. also if you are buying then get in quick as i have been told that there is very limited stock on these now and Vu may be soon ceasing further production ( not confirmed yet ) on these older models.
rubberduck could this be vu's doing something about the clones????
blueflash234
2nd July, 2012, 09:37 AM
would there new models have anti clone measures in them?
IAmATeaf
2nd July, 2012, 09:49 AM
rubberduck could this be vu's doing something about the clones????
It's just normal company operation isn't it, why do Panasonic launch a new TV set every 9 months or so?
digicon
2nd July, 2012, 10:23 AM
It's just normal company operation isn't it, why do Panasonic launch a new TV set every 9 months or so?
Probably because satellite receiver hardware does not move on as quickly as say Plasma/LCD/LED, you just have to have a look at what has happened in 3 years in broadcasting for home viewing changes.
The Release of FreeviewHD & FreesatHD, 3D passive and Active, BBCi player & Netflix etc..., Plasma and LCD and LED technology DLNA and media palyback and probably the next big one OLED the list goes on.
As for sat receivers the Duo has been out for nearly 4 years and since that time nothing has really changed apart from everyone wanting to run them like Home theatre components and play back every single video file known to man, The only real major change that i see that will benefit in the future is the dropping of E2 and the move over to XBMC software
Bann32
2nd July, 2012, 11:02 AM
You don't need cable ties, blu tack, or cradles, the cradle that is already in can take either 2.5 or 3.5, you screw the screws into the bottom of the harddrive as opposed to the sides as you would on a pc...
RuberDuck
2nd July, 2012, 11:03 PM
You don't need cable ties, blu tack, or cradles, the cradle that is already in can take either 2.5 or 3.5, you screw the screws into the bottom of the harddrive as opposed to the sides as you would on a pc...
yes but the duo ships with the standard 3.5 cradle which does not line up with the 2.5 drives, the uno and ultimo ship with a dual 2.5 / 3.5 cradle to fit both size drives.
meggiedude
4th July, 2012, 08:34 AM
I took the plunge tonight from amazon.de ?260 delivered and a 2 year warranty. It should be here for Thursday at the latest.
Would be interested to know how you got on with this. Which of Amazons merchants did you use?
ricescooper
4th July, 2012, 01:32 PM
Would be interested to know how you got on with this. Which of Amazons merchants did you use?
It wasn't a merchant it was direct from the German amazon.de, it won't arrive untill Friday but everything seems in order.
clem58
4th July, 2012, 01:50 PM
I got mine yesterday from world of satellite ?343.00 a coupon of ?10 paid my postage. Service very efficient staff helpful. I ordered friday evening, it got here tuesday. Delivered by dhl. And there's a forum. But don't give them your house number they phone you in the middle of the night lol . Kidding that was just me.
meggiedude
4th July, 2012, 03:24 PM
It wasn't a merchant it was direct from the German amazon.de, it won't arrive untill Friday but everything seems in order.
So this is 299Euros + 23.50Euros shipping???
Also do you have confirmation that the German supplier (Amazon.de in this case I assume) will definately honour a 2yr guarantee if bought in the UK.
Something thats been out there for a while is the EU directive on goods bought here in the UK. Not sure - but we all could be covered anyway.
See this:
Two-year-warranty-EU-law (http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1677034/Two-year-warranty-EU-law.html)
There have been cases where UK Apple owners have used this law to get things fixed after 1yr.
Hence they changed their UK T&C's:
Apple (United Kingdom) - Legal - Apple Products and EU Statutory Warranty (http://www.apple.com/uk/legal/statutory-warranty/)
So you might be covered for 2yrs for any purchases here anyway - provided you report it within a set period and you can prove you've not been d*cking around with it (difficult with an item where you open the top cover to insert a hard-drive I know).
ricescooper
4th July, 2012, 06:31 PM
So this is 299Euros + 23.50Euros shipping???
Also do you have confirmation that the German supplier (Amazon.de in this case I assume) will definately honour a 2yr guarantee if bought in the UK.
Something thats been out there for a while is the EU directive on goods bought here in the UK. Not sure - but we all could be covered anyway.
See this:
Two-year-warranty-EU-law (http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1677034/Two-year-warranty-EU-law.html)
I paid
There have been cases where UK Apple owners have used this law to get things fixed after 1yr.
Hence they changed their UK T&C's:
Apple (United Kingdom) - Legal - Apple Products and EU Statutory Warranty (http://www.apple.com/uk/legal/statutory-warranty/)
So you might be covered for 2yrs for any purchases here anyway - provided you report it within a set period and you can prove you've not been d*cking around with it (difficult with an item where you open the tingop cover to insert a hard-drive I know).
I paid 310 Euros which came in at about ?260 including delivery. I'm not 100% sure about the 2 year warranty but according to various people on here and elsewhere it is sound. Its 3-4 working days delivery so should be here on Thursday.
digicon
4th July, 2012, 07:36 PM
If your worried about warranty then give Ian a ring at Red apple Digital they are the cheapest for the Duo's no clone's either and i am pretty sure he honours the 2 year warranty one of the only UK suppliers who do.
VU+ Duo HD Satellite Receiver (http://www.redappledigital.co.uk/VU-Duo-HD-Satellite-Receiver-p/duo.htm)
meggiedude
4th July, 2012, 09:33 PM
If your worried about warranty then give Ian a ring at Red apple Digital they are the cheapest for the Duo's no clone's either and i am pretty sure he honours the 2 year warranty one of the only UK suppliers who do.
VU+ Duo HD Satellite Receiver (http://www.redappledigital.co.uk/VU-Duo-HD-Satellite-Receiver-p/duo.htm)
Hmmmm Its a nice price to be sure.
Checked with the guy, who got straight back to me.
The price shown is UK stock with 1yr warranty.Its more expensive for the german sourced units with 2yr warranty.
Good price mind.
zooloo66
5th July, 2012, 12:29 AM
Hmmmm Its a nice price to be sure.
Checked with the guy, who got straight back to me.
The price shown is UK stock with 1yr warranty.Its more expensive for the german sourced units with 2yr warranty.
Good price mind.
this is one from same site with two year warranty but ?14 quid more
VU+ Duo HD Satellite Receiver (http://www.redappledigital.co.uk/VU-Duo-HD-Satellite-Receiver-p/duo2.htm)
digicon
5th July, 2012, 12:35 AM
this is one from same site with two year warranty but ?14 quid more
VU+ Duo HD Satellite Receiver (http://www.redappledigital.co.uk/VU-Duo-HD-Satellite-Receiver-p/duo2.htm)
Nice find knew i had seen it somewhere.
meggiedude
5th July, 2012, 10:19 AM
Nice find knew i had seen it somewhere.
He only added it last night m8. He emailed me to tell me he'd put it on his site after my question about the 2yr guarantee. You probably saw the 2yr stuff on another forum or his current eBay items ;)
ricescooper
7th July, 2012, 04:10 PM
My Vu+ Duo arrived on Thursday morning from Amazon.de. I'm really pleased with it works perfect, black remote and fully english manual.
IMO it was a bargain at ?260 delivered in three days and with 2 year warranty.
I got it up and running with Vix 2.4 and am really pleased with the outcome great box. I put a Samsung 3.5" 1TB HDD in and it is really quiet and I've got a Sandisk USB also connected for the EPG and Picons.
Only wish I had taken the plunge sooner. :D
SurrenderMonkey
7th July, 2012, 05:27 PM
So this is 299Euros + 23.50Euros shipping???
Also do you have confirmation that the German supplier (Amazon.de in this case I assume) will definately honour a 2yr guarantee if bought in the UK.
Something thats been out there for a while is the EU directive on goods bought here in the UK. Not sure - but we all could be covered anyway.
See this:
Two-year-warranty-EU-law (http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1677034/Two-year-warranty-EU-law.html)
There have been cases where UK Apple owners have used this law to get things fixed after 1yr.
Hence they changed their UK T&C's:
Apple (United Kingdom) - Legal - Apple Products and EU Statutory Warranty (http://www.apple.com/uk/legal/statutory-warranty/)
So you might be covered for 2yrs for any purchases here anyway - provided you report it within a set period and you can prove you've not been d*cking around with it (difficult with an item where you open the top cover to insert a hard-drive I know).
The place of sale is not necessarily the UK, or Germany, you need to get into Amazon's T&Cs to find out where it is. Amazon.co.uk is the trading name of Amazon Srl registered in Luxemburg, sales are usually in Luxemburg for tax mitigation reasons. Amazon.de is also a trading name of Amazon srl. You are contracting with exactly the same company on both sites.
The only difference is when Amazon are not the seller. Amazon act as an introducer to other parties under participation agreements which mean that you may be contracting with another party not associated with Amazon. In this case your contract is with the third party but you still benefit from Amazon's policy for conflicts etc.
The 2 yr warranty under EU legislation covers all EU countries. It has been adopted by the UK. A UK company cannot contract out of it to offer a lower term, neither can any other company registered in the EU.
If you pay using a credit card issued by UK licensed bank you are also protected by s75 of the Consumer Credit Act which means you can claim directly from the card company. You do not need to sue the supplier as in UK law the Bank is seen as jointly liable. To put it simply you sue the UK bank in a UK court and do not have to worry about pursuing an overseas company.
If you can buy something on the German Amazon site cheaper I would go for it. You have plenty of protection and Amazon act as a responsible company.
septicsmurf
9th July, 2012, 10:07 AM
I got an email from the sat-shop support forum with a voucher for the forum members only. Vu+ duo ?269 delivered.
Seems the prices are starting to fall In preparation for the duo2.
meggiedude
9th July, 2012, 03:14 PM
I got an email from the sat-shop support forum with a voucher for the forum members only. Vu+ duo ?269 delivered.
Seems the prices are starting to fall In preparation for the duo2.
Oh B*gg%r. And there's me about 100% on getting a new Uno.
That throws a spanner in the works (in a nice way)
Others will follow I have no doubt. Still scope for more movement down to clear shelves I bet.
I'm still 70%/30% on an Uno due to size/speed/memory/etc at this moment. If it comes down some more though......
meggiedude
11th July, 2012, 12:19 PM
Oh B*gg%r. And there's me about 100% on getting a new Uno.
That throws a spanner in the works (in a nice way)
Others will follow I have no doubt. Still scope for more movement down to clear shelves I bet.
I'm still 70%/30% on an Uno due to size/speed/memory/etc at this moment. If it comes down some more though......
Peebs
Please make sure you don't take any advice from me. I've just looked at my own advise here, ignored it and ordered a Duo.
Those urges to 'just buy that gadget' just got the better of me this morning, so like the weak, weak fool that I am, I just placed order for Duo from Sat-Shop.
At the end of the day, there is no knowing how long the Uno twin tuners will take to hit the stores and what the prices will be, and I do want a twin tuner.
Sure the Duos will/may reduce in price over the next months, but the deal is still a good one now, so thought "B*ll*cks to it" and pulled the trigger.
Sometimes I really hate these forums.
digicon
11th July, 2012, 01:11 PM
The Duo is a great box no doubt about it fine for everyday viewing of satellite Tv and the like but its not without its problems the tuners are not great for weak fringe reception if your into that sort of thing, But then again there are better boxes designed for DX'ers anyway.
The problem you face is if the rumours true that the duo2 will be out say Oct/Nov then not only do prices drop substantially to get shut of old stock but eventually support dries up as well. It may take time for support to dwindle but for those who purchased a duo new some nearly 4 years ago for ?479 then its been a great box and they have had there moneys worth out of it.
septicsmurf
11th July, 2012, 01:46 PM
F*** me. Wos has the ultimo going for ?399 delivered.
I am so tempted.
digicon
11th July, 2012, 01:54 PM
F*** me. Wos has the ultimo going for ?399 delivered.
I am so tempted.
LOL yep thats a ?130 price drop in just over 6 months since release here just wait until the solo2 and duo2 arrive could we see a sub ?300 ultimo then probably.
septicsmurf
11th July, 2012, 02:05 PM
LOL yep thats a ?130 price drop in just over 6 months since release here just wait until the solo2 and duo2 arrive could we see a sub ?300 ultimo then probably.
Problem is i'll want the duo2 then. Can't see us getting much change out of ?500 for them though.
In the interim I'm stuck with a duo clone that struggles to drive my motor
Have to keep rebooting and using satfinder to change sats.
Got the mrs banging on about showing her how to use the duo, but not gonna let her loose on it till it's idiot proof.
meggiedude
11th July, 2012, 02:19 PM
The Duo is a great box no doubt about it fine for everyday viewing of satellite Tv and the like but its not without its problems the tuners are not great for weak fringe reception if your into that sort of thing, But then again there are better boxes designed for DX'ers anyway.
The problem you face is if the rumours true that the duo2 will be out say Oct/Nov then not only do prices drop substantially to get shut of old stock but eventually support dries up as well. It may take time for support to dwindle but for those who purchased a duo new some nearly 4 years ago for ?479 then its been a great box and they have had there moneys worth out of it.
Hear what you are saying, but I am taking the gamble that it'll still have some life. There are still loads of owners out there, clone and non-clone. Don't think ?269 is too shabby in the circumstances.
digicon
11th July, 2012, 02:22 PM
Problem is i'll want the duo2 then. Can't see us getting much change out of ?500 for them though.
In the interim I'm stuck with a duo clone that struggles to drive my motor
Have to keep rebooting and using satfinder to change sats.
Got the mrs banging on about showing her how to use the duo, but not gonna let her loose on it till it's idiot proof.
Your Clone is at least trying to drive the motor i have seen some that wont drive them at all, There are a few possible solutions for this.
1. Buy another and hope you get a good one Duo Clone PSU from China.
2. when changing satellites does the problem occur when changing to sweep a large ARC like say go from 28.2? east to 30.0? west if so try going to each individual satellites or try just 2 at a time instead of one big ARC sweep
3. change from USALS to Diseqc 1.2 mode and use the advanced mode in the service searching and store each satellite individually.
I think most of the problems stem from people doing large ARC sweeps that puts added pressure on the PSU as well as switching from a Vertical TP 13v to a Horizontal TP 18v, you could try if your current channel is a V TP then choose another V TP on a different sat and see if that helps, Then at least the psu is not only trying to drive the motor but also do the TP switching as well.
worth a try
mtv1
11th July, 2012, 02:27 PM
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genuine vu+duo no where near 500quid 300 on that site and it is genuine ;)
meggiedude
11th July, 2012, 02:27 PM
Problem is i'll want the duo2 then. Can't see us getting much change out of ?500 for them though.
In the interim I'm stuck with a duo clone that struggles to drive my motor
Have to keep rebooting and using satfinder to change sats.
Got the mrs banging on about showing her how to use the duo, but not gonna let her loose on it till it's idiot proof.
It will be interesting to see how my genuine box compares vs the prev clone
With the clone, when it was working, I had the same issue as you driving my Technomate 2600. I am hoping/praying that this won't be an issue for the genuine box.
digicon
11th July, 2012, 02:27 PM
Hear what you are saying, but I am taking the gamble that it'll still have some life. There are still loads of owners out there, clone and non-clone. Don't think ?269 is too shabby in the circumstances.
Its a very good sat box for the price but people must understand they are purchasing what is now nearly 4 year old Tech and has been superceeded by the tech thats in the Uno/Ultimo and then shortly to be the Duo2 and Solo2.
As you say you went against your own advice
meggiedude
11th July, 2012, 02:29 PM
Satboxes.com Online Store - Quality Satellite Products at reasonable prices from Ireland - VU+ Duo Twin Tuner HD Linux Sat receiver genuine original model (Powered by CubeCart) (http://satboxes.com/shop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=90)
genuine vu+duo no where near 500quid 300 on that site and it is genuine ;)
err, think you are missing the point m8. He's talking about the Duo2, not the Duo.
Orig genuine Duo can be had for ?269 delivered. Duo2 is likely to be a whole load more.
meggiedude
11th July, 2012, 02:30 PM
Its a very good sat box for the price but people must understand they are purchasing what is now nearly 4 year old Tech and has been superceeded by the tech thats in the Uno/Ultimo and then shortly to be the Duo2 and Solo2.
As you say you went against your own advice
Yep, guilty as charged. Moment of madness
But then I did not see people saying "don't buy a Duo" weeks, if not days ago, when the price was nearer 300 quid in the UK and people were arguing the t*ss over shipping from German or not.
Hey, ho.
digicon
11th July, 2012, 02:30 PM
Satboxes.com Online Store - Quality Satellite Products at reasonable prices from Ireland - VU+ Duo Twin Tuner HD Linux Sat receiver genuine original model (Powered by CubeCart) (http://satboxes.com/shop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=90)
genuine vu+duo no where near 500quid 300 on that site and it is genuine ;)
he was talking about possible price for the new Duo2 and not the current Duo LOL, And ?329 from that site is extortionate :heeeelllllooooo:
meggiedude
11th July, 2012, 02:47 PM
he was talking about possible price for the new Duo2 and not the current Duo LOL, And ?329 from that site is extortionate :heeeelllllooooo:
Not to worry - its out of stock.
Must have been flying off the shelves lol
mtv1
11th July, 2012, 03:03 PM
sorry must read some more :banghead:
septicsmurf
11th July, 2012, 03:03 PM
Your Clone is at least trying to drive the motor i have seen some that wont drive them at all, There are a few possible solutions for this.
1. Buy another and hope you get a good one Duo Clone PSU from China.
2. when changing satellites does the problem occur when changing to sweep a large ARC like say go from 28.2? east to 30.0? west if so try going to each individual satellites or try just 2 at a time instead of one big ARC sweep
3. change from USALS to Diseqc 1.2 mode and use the advanced mode in the service searching and store each satellite individually.
I think most of the problems stem from people doing large ARC sweeps that puts added pressure on the PSU as well as switching from a Vertical TP 13v to a Horizontal TP 18v, you could try if your current channel is a V TP then choose another V TP on a different sat and see if that helps, Then at least the psu is not only trying to drive the motor but also do the TP switching as well.
worth a try
This is my second clone. Managed to get the seller to send me out a version 2 sent out to replace my version 1 when I first had problems driving the motor.
Initially is was a lot better but slowly getting worse again
I don't really do big arc sweeps as I mainly watch between 0.8w and 28.2e.
I've also tried the vertical/horizontal transponder idea but that didn't help.
I have found vix 2.3 pre kernal 133 is slightly better with vix 2.4 being the worst.
I know it's not my motor as the installer had a banged up old technomate that drove it fine.
I haven't tried the diseqc route yet due to a severe lack of time and know-how.
Just biding my time till the duo2 comes out then i'll decide what to get as a replacement.
If I knew you were selling your clone I might have had it off you.
septicsmurf
11th July, 2012, 03:12 PM
Not to worry - its out of stock.
Must have been flying off the shelves lol
Why not go for the ultimo from wos then?
meggiedude
11th July, 2012, 03:28 PM
Why not go for the ultimo from wos then?
Sorry you lost me there m8 :confused:
Ultimo was not on my hit list, cheap (relatively speaking) though it is. Might be ?399, but that's outside my price bracket.
Was between Uno or discounted Duo for me, and as Digicon says in a moment of inexplicable madness I ignored my own advice.
EDIT - my reference to being Out of stock btw was to that website MTV1 posted, and it was my clearly pathetic attempt at humour.
digicon
11th July, 2012, 03:35 PM
This is my second clone. Managed to get the seller to send me out a version 2 sent out to replace my version 1 when I first had problems driving the motor.
Initially is was a lot better but slowly getting worse again
I don't really do big arc sweeps as I mainly watch between 0.8w and 28.2e.
I've also tried the vertical/horizontal transponder idea but that didn't help.
I have found vix 2.3 pre kernal 133 is slightly better with vix 2.4 being the worst.
I know it's not my motor as the installer had a banged up old technomate that drove it fine.
I haven't tried the diseqc route yet due to a severe lack of time and know-how.
Just biding my time till the duo2 comes out then i'll decide what to get as a replacement.
If I knew you were selling your clone I might have had it off you.
Sounds like a definite PSU problem then, sold my clone months back sorry i only got it to see what it was like, Receivers dont last long in my household always onto the newer and better version LOL
meggiedude
11th July, 2012, 03:40 PM
Sounds like a definite PSU problem then, sold my clone months back sorry i only got it to see what it was like, Receivers dont last long in my household always onto the newer and better version LOL
Ah, got to love those Early Adopters. Always there to troubleshoot the first derivatives at a premuim price, so they work fine and dandy when the rest of us pick them up.
Only teasing....:wavey:
septicsmurf
11th July, 2012, 03:42 PM
It's seems we both had pathetic attempts at humour then
I had a smillie attached but it somehow disappeared.
Let's try again.
:laugh:
There the bugger is!
septicsmurf
12th July, 2012, 03:18 PM
I know it's a long shot. But do you reckon an original psu would work in a clone?
digicon
12th July, 2012, 03:38 PM
I know it's a long shot. But do you reckon an original psu would work in a clone?
I dont see why not i see Goldwafers have them for sale so if your willing to pay the extra over a clone PSU then go for it, Unless you have a spare already.
septicsmurf
12th July, 2012, 04:06 PM
I was just thinking of a cheapish fix for my clone psu problem.
Using an original psu should sort it right?
tonycarter
13th July, 2012, 01:15 PM
Hi All,
I'm looking to buy a Vu+ Duo and I have found a germany site who are selling them for 289 euro & 10 euro delivery converted its ?235 delivered plus 2% payment via paypal. I have emailed him to check its not a clone and his reply was 'We only sell Vu+ originals'. What does anybody think, is it to cheap to be an Original Duo ?
digicon
13th July, 2012, 01:31 PM
Hi All,
I'm looking to buy a Vu+ Duo and I have found a germany site who are selling them for 289 euro & 10 euro delivery converted its ?235 delivered plus 2% payment via paypal. I have emailed him to check its not a clone and his reply was 'We only sell Vu+ originals'. What does anybody think, is it to cheap to be an Original Duo ?
Thats a good price and probably an original as well, i priced one from an online German site and it came to delivered to UK for around ?248 so your price is very good.
septicsmurf
14th July, 2012, 01:41 PM
This is my second clone. Managed to get the seller to send me out a version 2 sent out to replace my version 1 when I first had problems driving the motor.
Initially is was a lot better but slowly getting worse again
I don't really do big arc sweeps as I mainly watch between 0.8w and 28.2e.
I've also tried the vertical/horizontal transponder idea but that didn't help.
I have found vix 2.3 pre kernal 133 is slightly better with vix 2.4 being the worst.
I know it's not my motor as the installer had a banged up old technomate that drove it fine.
I haven't tried the diseqc route yet due to a severe lack of time and know-how.
Just biding my time till the duo2 comes out then i'll decide what to get as a replacement.
If I knew you were selling your clone I might have had it off you.
Well I don't believe this.
Yeterday I found an old flash drive, so decided to stick it in my clone duo to use for epg.
Stuck it in no problems, but it also seems to have cured some of my power supply issues.
The duo now seems to have the juice to move the motor more times than not.
It's gone from working 20% of the time to 90% of the time.
Well chuffed.
I guess it's because the hard drive isn't working all the time now so has the power to move the motor?
john107
24th July, 2012, 10:29 AM
Hi all, I've just decided to bite the bullet and ordered a VU+DUO and a quad lnb from a very helpful sat shop in Germany.Here's the linky if anyone wants to do the same.
VU+ HDTV Satelliten, Kabel und DVB-T Receiver (http://www.hm-sat-shop.de/hdd-receiver-hdtv-vu/)
at the moment they are doing them with 36 months warranty which is priced on Ebay at around ?30 and the quad lnb comes with a 5 year warranty. Inclusive of UPS,taxes,and exchange fee it all came to a little over ?277 and for the extra warranty I consider it worth a few days wait.Hope this helps someone......Oh btw I paid with Paypal as I didn't want any problems with credit card fees etc..although Paypal charge something prolly......
digicon
24th July, 2012, 10:44 AM
Hi all, I've just decided to bite the bullet and ordered a VU+DUO and a quad lnb from a very helpful sat shop in Germany.Here's the linky if anyone wants to do the same.
VU+ HDTV Satelliten, Kabel und DVB-T Receiver (http://www.hm-sat-shop.de/hdd-receiver-hdtv-vu/)
at the moment they are doing them with 36 months warranty which is priced on Ebay at around ?30 and the quad lnb comes with a 5 year warranty. Inclusive of UPS,taxes,and exchange fee it all came to a little over ?277 and for the extra warranty I consider it worth a few days wait.Hope this helps someone......Oh btw I paid with Paypal as I didn't want any problems with credit card fees etc..although Paypal charge something prolly......
Thats a good shop i order certain items from there now and again if i cant source them over here first and the best thing only takes 3 days via UPS and 36 months warranty is really good.
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