touarag kessy pin pease

[makura]

Can some please help with pin from this Touarag kessy dump.

[JOHNCICY]

[QUOTE=makura;1668339]Can some please help with pin from this Touarag kessy dump.[/QUOTE

YOUR PIN 3063

[makura]

I have managed to kill this car some how,read eeprom put it back,double checked my soldering,closed and replaced the kessy back in to the car,put my old working key in and nothing happens,tried to take the key out,now it's stuck in the key hole,even when i turn it to the on side nothing happens.
Is it because i took off the kessy with battery on?
How do i fix this mess?
Thanks.

[yugo45]

You can take key out if you remove little cover next to where key goes in ignition. It will be hole with dot. Push that dot with something and key will come out.

After that try to program keys:
VW Touareg (7L) Access/Start Authorization - Ross-Tech Wiki (http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/VW_Touareg_%287L%29_Access/Start_Authorization)

[andrius]

if key was locked in and would not come out, the kessy is dead. you must chek the kessy for power and then check the quarc resonator when power is on. somehow you must have killed it. as it must not lock the incorect or correct key, so that you will not able to get it out, just imagine you are a user and acidentely put a key from diferent car, so what? you would have to do to dealer to take it out? it would be nonsens. :) i think :)

[makura]

if key was locked in and would not come out, the kessy is dead. you must chek the kessy for power and then check the quarc resonator when power is on. somehow you must have killed it. as it must not lock the incorect or correct key, so that you will not able to get it out, just imagine you are a user and acidentely put a key from diferent car, so what? you would have to do to dealer to take it out? it would be nonsens. :) i think :)

You are right Andrius, my Kessy is dead but i dont think i killed it.The customer says the remote never worked since he bought the car and the start and stop button never ever worked either,so reading the eeprom to get the pin code wouldn't have killed it,any way new Kessy on the way and thats a job for monday.

[andrius]

the keyless go is not working probably becasue the kessy has no hardware support for it. you can look at the right part there should be a lot of relays. for the keyless go to work. :) the pin reading should not have killed it. as well as reading EEPROM. BTW. kessy should diagnose it self even then NO ignition. so you should be able to see it with VCDS or VAS in any way. if it would be alive :)

[makura]

A diagram would be great m8,which relay number?

[makura]

Got a new kessy unit but i cant get to program it to the car,i pressed the brake for 20sec like it says on the ross-tech web but i cant connect to anything on the car.
Is it possible to tweek the new dump with info from the old dump to make it work right away with no programming complications?I tried to put the old eeprom on the new kessy but that did not work.
Oh by the way the alarm keeps going off when ever i put the key in the ignition and the desh says immo activated and after a few secs it says vehicle starting.

[makura]

no help?any one please

[andrius]

is this new kessy from dealer bought by car vin?

[makura]

yes to all the above.
Can i have pincode from the both dumps?

[sogaro]

New Kessy................03404 / 34866
Old Kessy.................36489 / 03063

[makura]

Thanks m8,which ones should i use with VCDS?i dont want to end up with lock wait time on the unit.

[andrius]

Could you please check security bytes? 23 E0 20 65 43 9F are they? many thanks :) for new kessy :)

[andrius]

as it is continental, you should try both. more likely it is 34866 for new and 03063 for old one? no guarantys. :)

[sogaro]

Trying both once each won't get you locked out and if you get locked out, wait 35 minutes bro, no way to know which is except by trying, Best of luck

[andrius]

btw you can try to read the old pin from motor ECU

[makura]

@ ANDRIUS-now i am lost,please explain.

[andrius]

if you dont want to test pin code from old kessy, you can extract the same pin from motor ecu :D

[makura]

No luck,controller wont accept the pin codes(new pin) both denied.

[sogaro]

Those pins are right, you can not reprogram Touareg keys, you may need to get new key or use another chip.

[makura]

I want to adopt a new kessy unit,i have new keys.For the life of me i cant get the unit to accept the pin,checked the security wait time and its all 0s.
The other thing is that if i try to read engine ecu i cant get through,but if i swap eeproms with the old unit i can read all units on the car but the ignition comes on as soon as i plug the batt back,fault in ecu is'start blocked by immo,and wrongly programmed kessy unit.
and in kessy the fault i get is kessy not programmed.

[sogaro]

You need to check if the keys would work by checking the Measuring blocks, what year is car anyway? You need to know what immo you've got to know the procedure to follow
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Immobilizer_III_Key_Matching_(Kessy)
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Immobilizer_IV_Key_Matching

[yugo45]

Try new Kessy with out pin. Most of the new units are on 04 mode , which does not need pin( it is unlocked)Go straight to adaptation Ch 50 and see what happens when you put old pin in test value.

[makura]

Its a touarag tdi 2006 model.

[makura]

Try new Kessy with out pin. Most of the new units are on 04 mode , which does not need pin( it is unlocked)Go straight to adaptation Ch 50 and see what happens when you put old pin in test value.
Let me try that,it makes a bit of sense,the dealer just sold the unit with no pin number,that should be why.let me try.

[makura]

I have tried to go straight to adaptation and it say security access required.
I have tried the old pin code on the ecu and it refuses to accept it.
I have attached some screen shots.

[makura]

I was going through some measuring blocks and saw were it says power train diagnostic bus is off,is that normal?

[makura]

Can VCDS do this job or do i need some special tool,i follow all VCDS instructions to the letter but it wont work.

[yugo45]

It should.

[makura]

Try new Kessy with out pin. Most of the new units are on 04 mode , which does not need pin( it is unlocked)Go straight to adaptation Ch 50 and see what happens when you put old pin in test value.

This did not work m8,i go to adaptation and put in value 50-test and it say security access requred.

[makura]

Hi
Just read the kessy units in 16bit format,can some one please check if this makes any difference in the pin calculation?

[makura]

Read the ecu and the pin is 100 percent,cant understand why the pin is not accepted.

[andrius]

does ECU accept the pin? is pin not accepted only on old kessy and is the kessy dead?

[makura]

the old kessy is deadand i bought a brand new kessy from VW dealer.
The ecu is not accepting pincode either.
Is there any coding needed first before adaptation can be carried out like in this link?
Audi A8 (4E) Access/Start Authorization - Ross-Tech Wiki (http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Audi_A8_(4E)_Access/Start_Authorization#Coding-II)

[yugo45]

When you read ECU , did you see CS.
If you have 6 byte CS , I don't think VCDS can do job.
If is 7 byte CS , then VCDS should be able to do job.

[makura]

No idea as to how to check for CS,here is the ecu dump.

[andrius]

what type of motor ecu is it? edc or med?

[makura]

EDC16u1 diesel engine 2006 model

[andrius]

security bytes : 83 4E 04 c0 cf 00 04
mac: 00 ff
pin: 3063
speed limit : 190
milage : 31036

[makura]

security bytes : 83 4E 04 c0 cf 00 04
mac: 00 ff
pin: 3063
speed limit : 190
milage : 31036

Meaning VAG COM can do this car?What do i do with the security bytes?
:giveup:

[andrius]

YOU CAN PROGRAM A KEY. check if a key is from this car, or you can if you know how reprogram a kessy. could you upload kessy photo, or tell us is the kessy continental or VDO? both the old one and new one. many thanks :)

[makura]

The old kessy is VDO and the new one is CONTINENTAL.
Programming the key will be another story,for now its adapting the kessy that is an issue here.

[andrius]

so only the alarm goes off? the dealer should have gave you a new pin code. :)i can turn off immo if you want, but that is only valid, then you have an ignition with working system. :)

[andrius]

you could try changin the procesors and eeprom memory, this can help you.

[andrius]

i could give you a modified dump, you will only need to program keys. if you can ofcourse :)

[makura]

I know,i have turned the immo off using my ORANGE 5 programmer,it no use if you are not getting ignition.

[makura]

what do i use to read and write micro pro?give me the modified dump,i am up for anything right now and i dont want to give up on this car,if i do 2 days later i might get another one like it,and i am sure i am not the only one who has faced this problem.
The solution i get might help many others.

[andrius]

if the kessy is realy new, then it should take ignition if it is in learning stage and you enter a valid pincode, else it is no use. :) i could give you a working kessy with pin and security bites :)

[andrius]

yes, i have had a similar car. now i am looking for info on how to calculate security bites from kessy

[makura]

if the kessy is realy new, then it should take ignition if it is in learning stage and you enter a valid pincode, else it is no use. :) i could give you a working kessy with pin and security bites :)

I have tried to write the eeprom dump of the old kessy to the new kessy eeprom and i get ignition and i can comunicate with all the modules on the car,it allows me to go to adaptation and when i put in the pin code for the car in the test space and click DO IT it says error.

[andrius]

140646

P.S. check PM

[andrius]

the old eeprom from VDO will not be accepted on new Continental even if you swap eeprom. read eeprom again it will be damaged i guaranty :D

[makura]

the old eeprom from VDO will not be accepted on new Continental even if you swap eeprom. read eeprom again it will be damaged i guaranty :D
You are right on that one,every time i took out the eeprom and read it the dump would have been change drastically.
Lets see what your dump can do for me,results shortly.

[andrius]

it changes it writing " kessy kessy kessy kessy" everywere :)

[andrius]

hows work going on?

[makura]

ok i have written your dump,now when i connect my VCDS i go to 05 acc/stat.auth and security,i enter the pin code and the pin is accepted,then i go to adaptation and type in chennel 50 and it say error chennel not available.
Then i try channel 21 same story,chennel not available.
On my desh display it say immo activated and when i turn key on it gives a bip and says immo activated,no desh light,no ignition.

[andrius]

it is so because the key security bites are not ok. you may need to reprogram your key if you will want to work with my dump.

[andrius]

can you mane a 7936 key?

[makura]

it wont allow me to program the keys,it say channel not available.yes the key are 7936,pre programmed using zedbull for touarage, and one is origanal key once programmed on this car.

[andrius]

then preprograming a key it has to be a dealer key. you have to put security bytes to key know :) if you have used new kessy dump to program keys maybe, maybe the keys are good, if you have used engine ECU dump to make keys they are probably bad. if you havent used a dump to make keys then the keys are lost :)

[andrius]

btw zed bull original?

[makura]

then preprograming a key it has to be a dealer key. you have to put security bytes to key know :) if you have used new kessy dump to program keys maybe, maybe the keys are good, if you have used engine ECU dump to make keys they are probably bad. if you havent used a dump to make keys then the keys are lost :)
I am lost my friend.i just prepared a chip using zedbull with no dump at all.this key has to be programmed to the car,zedbull only puts the chip in the right format to be programmed in to the car.

[andrius]

this car with kessy needs dealer keys, so that you would be able to program them to car. the dealer key is prepared using security bytes. maybe old cars don't need that. i don;t realy know. for this procedure Abrites is best for me :)

[andrius]

btw have you done similar procedure involving new key adaptation, or in lost all key situation to a new kessy? :)

[makura]

are those the security bites you sent with the dump?MAC1 and MAC2?

[andrius]

yes i have added security bites with the file :) you can use the to make dealer keys :)

[makura]

CAn zed bull make this hitag key?not sure were i should put the security bytes.

[makura]

yes i have added security bites with the file :) you can use the to make dealer keys :)
ANDRIUS thanks a million for your time and not loosing your cool over a million questions,this is what makes DK the bomb.
Now i am close to starting this car than ever,now i have to figure out how to make a dealer key using zedbull or skt 100,tmpro module is too expensive,how much will i charge the client after buying a new kessy unit then spending 210 pounds on module 155.

Thanks once again to all DK members,much appreciated
:beerglass:

[makura]

Does any one have a virgin Continental dump for this kessy unit?i have tried to use another dump that i was given by a friend and i can log in as it accepts the pin code but no channels are available in the adaption section,01,unavailable-21 unavailable,just all the channels you might think of are unavailable.
I then read the dump again and found that tha dump had been changed from its original state.
I want to at least program the keys and immo off the ecu once i get ignition.
Here are the 2 dumps one that i wrote and 8 is the altered dump.

[andrius]

virgin is not an option here. all kessy has security bytes and pin. sometimes pin can be 0000 but security bytes are real, thats why you have to buy from dealer or to adapt it.

[makura]

i got this one from a dealer brand new in a box but no pin code was provided.i dont have a vw dealer here so i had to buy the unit from out of the country.i have tried 0000 and it wont accept the pin code.

[makura]

BRAN NEW WEEK,SAME OLD PROBLEMS.

[andrius]

sorry, no more ideas, why channels are not awailable :(

[makura]

no idea m8,enter the pin code and its all good,but once i try to program the keys channel 01,21 or any other channel in adaptation is not available.

[yugo45]

This is maybe your problem:
Ross-Tech: VCDS-Lite (http://www.ross-tech.com/vcds-lite/index.html)

VCDS lite is limited and I think you need full Can -Hex version of VCDS to do this.

[makura]

Now i have borrowed a VVDI from a friend and when i try to adapt on channel 50 i get CHENNEL OUT OF RANGE.Does any one have a virgin eeprom file from a continental kessy please,i want to try it as i am clearly running out of ideas.

Does any one have a good dump for kessy numberr 3D 909 137 FX then i can adapt the kessy as a used kessy.

[andrius]

first try to register key in special functions. and look is the key dealer key and is it aceppted? there is a special function for key adaptation.

[makura]

New Kessy................03404 / 34866
Old Kessy.................36489 / 03063
The pin code for the old kessy is correct,verified by the ecu pin.as for the new pin it is not correct i have tried a million times it is not accepted,by the way the new kessy is Continental not VDO as i have learnt abritus cant calculate pin for continental.
CS data would be great too.
Does module 155 in TMPRO2 do continental kessy 2010? would good to get first hand info from some one who has used it before spending 250 on it.

[makura]

Is it possible to get security bytes from this kessy dump,i want to make a dealer key,i dont have the ecu that goes with this kessy unit?

[andrius]

did you manage to start the car?

[makura]

No my friend,still struggling no help on the new kessy dump,it seems like no one knows or is willing to share or help with pin and comp security bytes.

[andrius]

you can forget about this info if it is a continental kessy. i will try to make last posible dump for you. as i have run out ideas on one strange audi kessy too.

[makura]

Continental has done a hell of a job from 2007-2012 still no genius has cracked this software.I never thought this would happen on Dk,any way there is always a first.

[andrius]

146239 last hope. no ideas for now. will probably have to try team viewer.

[andrius]

continental is cracked wide open, but only for a hand full of peope, that do not like to share for free.

[makura]

I am willing to pay,so none of them have seen my posts.

[Maartinj]

When you replace Kessy you also have to replace steering lock module. I heard that he is one time prepare.

[andrius]

you dont have to change stearing lock if you have old security bytes programed to new kessy, or if kessy is from dealer or if kessy is with old eeprom. if not, you have to change of virgin stearing lock. or program it manualy. in this case we have all info. but channels like 21 and 51 are unavailable.