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nemena
23rd August, 2012, 01:11 PM
Hello All,
Could someone say something about pcf7936as and clone zed bull?
All my write trials ends up in "error" message.
I tried producing transponder for peugeot 307, clio2, but always got "error" message at the end.
What do I need to do to make it work.
The blank transponders were in "cipher-machester" mode.
pcf7935 production and pcf7936as read was ok!
Thanks in advance:
nemena
davorOS
23rd August, 2012, 03:56 PM
you can't clone ID46 on to 7936 only on TPX3 but
you will need
1 original ZED
2. tpx3
3. internet connection or JMA module
regards
nemena
24th August, 2012, 09:31 AM
Thanks, but I don't wanna clone any transponder.
What I'm saying is when I try to prepare a totally blank pcf7936as to eg. renault protocol, it ends up in an error message.
gokey
24th August, 2012, 09:48 AM
you have original zed ?
pianoman58
24th August, 2012, 09:57 AM
New/Blank 7936 doesn't need precoding for peug307, just code to car as it is with tool eg: pp2000, mvp etc
simples
nemena
24th August, 2012, 11:16 AM
New/Blank 7936 doesn't need precoding for peug307, just code to car as it is with tool eg: pp2000, mvp etc
simples
and how about clioII?
nemena
24th August, 2012, 11:18 AM
you have original zed ?
as stated in the title (pcf7936as and clone zed bull), the answer is no
davorOS
24th August, 2012, 12:23 PM
for Clio II you need to read 93c66 inside BSI and produce transponder from dump using extended function on your ZB
nemena
24th August, 2012, 01:01 PM
for Clio II you need to read 93c66 inside BSI and produce transponder from dump using extended function on your ZB
DavorOs, you don't get what I'm saying. At the end of the above mentioned procedure I get an "error" message instead of "success" every time I try.
My chinese seller claims, that clone zed bull can NOT succesfully write (unabe physically, due to the crack) pcf7936as.
I'm asking your experience about this. Were you guys able to precode pcf7936as to any brand or is it just me experiencing this?
Thanks for listening.
pianoman58
24th August, 2012, 01:56 PM
you need to precode 7936 for Id46 clio2 with zedbull
(transponder production,>>> 46 crypto>>>Renault>>>7936 )
then code in with 12 digit pin code...
OR do it like Davoros said. the hard way but no pin code
nemena
24th August, 2012, 02:22 PM
you need to precode 7936 for Id46 clio2 with zedbull
(transponder production,>>> 46 crypto>>>Renault>>>7936 )
then code in with 12 digit pin code...
OR do it like Davoros said. the hard way but no pin code
That is clear mate, this is not the question.
My clone says at the end of every pcf7936as programming: "error". It never prepares the chip.
Does your clone zed bull prepare the pcf7936as succesfully?
pianoman58
24th August, 2012, 06:21 PM
Mine is original tool so no problems, clone usually works for pre-coding 7936.
May be you should check your supply of 7936's, you may have batch of duds. See if someone elses tool can program one of your chips, Try and read one of your (error) chips with another tool to see what has happened to it.
if you have error all the time your 7936's should still be in password mode and OK to re-use
nemena
25th August, 2012, 11:30 AM
Thanks, PCF7936as is ok, other tool can write it successfully.
Any other input from clone users?
ssilvviu
26th August, 2012, 11:33 AM
AD900 works great with 7936, 7946
coolsoda
26th August, 2012, 06:29 PM
Your transponders are not blank if they are in cipher-Manchester mode,this means they are already set up for Renault,if you want to unlock for most other makes go into hitag2 in the mode box click password mode this will change line 3 from 06 to 00 click w3 to change to password mode
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