Programmer to do most cars??

[AudiS4]

Hello I am looking for a programmer that will do most dashboards.Nothing too expensive to start.I have heard many people mention upa usb programmer and x-prog m and dp3 and so on.I am just wondering what would most of your recommend??I have a couple of obdII handhelds unit but they are very limited as to what they can do.Or can do only specific cars.I am looking for something that will cover more cars and will do some newer cars.Please post opinions,advice, and what would you do recommend!!

[joemajdalani]

My personal opinion UPA is a must for starting....

[z786]

whats ur budget

[dashradio]

May also help if you post your location as well, as USA, Europe and Asia markets do have different vehicles, therefore you may be better with one XXX machine rather than YYY machine.

[AudiS4]

I am located in USA.I mostly deal with European cars such as audi,bmw,vw,porsche.But I do work on some asian and domestic cars as well.This is why im looking for something that could do just about anything.Budget isnt big at all about $2000usd.Just looking for something to get started that will do a broad range of cars.

[enigmauk]

Get a upa and rosfar red clone

[ALEXEI]

or better upa and xprog will complete one each other

[diagtech]

Or vagprog/datasmart from smelecom

[enigmauk]

Even better get vagprog. Upa. And. Xprog it will cover most vag by OBD and others by upa and Xprog

[ALEXEI]

if you are interested about Vagprog pm me

[AudiS4]

Well I know obd solutions to most cars are big money,so my question is with x-prog and upa i would need to dissassemble most dashes and desolder the eproms correct??

[ALEXEI]

There are manny vag cars can be made only via obd. no solutions on eprom.

[scary]

if you just starting do dash wen i sugest dont tuch bmw becouse cas module can cost allot of money for you :)



sorry for my english

[AudiS4]

yes i am not doing or touching bmw nothing new anyways mostly dealing with vw and audi and asian and domestic products.

[enigmauk]

Get vag prog then and upa Xprog. Message Alexi for it

[paul_12345]

if you just starting do dash wen i sugest dont tuch bmw becouse cas module can cost allot of money for you :)



sorry for my english

and a new VAG cluster cost peanuts???

[nany]

as it say's by some many members ,u just bought this tools upa-usb and xprogm i think you will not regrets. this is the most tools used by most people .

[ALEXEI]

An Vag obd tool its a must have in this moment. No matter which one.

[madzar]

I think best is tachouniversal ( can do obd,eeprom,mcu....35080 erase,good explanations and pictures,good veichle coverage,verry cheap now)for older cars,x-prog,cas3 and you must have motorolla 705,908 etl because x prog is no good for 705 and 908.

[rukartinatv]

for usa you need jprog6 smelecom its clone of jprog6
but for $2000 you cant start this business.
I think if you start this business you need
1 diagprog3
2 Jprog6
3 UPA
4 and much much much more!!!!!!!!
Its my opinion
If you wont to start this for $2000 dont even start .
Where are you from usa what state?

[Apolo29]

VAG cars aren`t the right choice to start, mainly the newer cars, if you do something wrong can damage a car and make it work again will have a very big cost.

Upa and Xprog are the best tools for their prices, but start with simple cars, look for cars that doesn`t have inmo in dashboard, learn how to do the job, and then start with complicated cars.

[yugo45]

yes i am not doing or touching bmw nothing new anyways mostly dealing with vw and audi and asian and domestic products.
If you are not very handy with dissembling Cluster , go with AVDI . You can buy AVDI interface :
AVDI - Abrites Vehicle Diagnostic Interface (http://abrites.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=57&product_id=53)
which is working diagnostic on many cars, then buy Software for VW-AUDi CAN miles corrections:
AN028 - VAG mileage recalibration in IKE-CAN,UDS (http://abrites.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=57&product_id=54).
It cost around you budget.
Later you can add any software that you want.
They have USA distributor. USA prices are with out VAT.

[AudiS4]

Yes i am aware that to get into this business is big money!!!So I think for time being I will think and look into picking up xprog-m and a upa.As Someone already mentioned I already have a tacho universal its good for most older audi and vw cars and some others over obd.Not so much for new cars but good for older cars.So I have that but again its a china clone so cant really trust it.

I will look into some of the suggestions made on here as well.I have done some older cars by desoldering the eeproms and editing the bytes.However my current programmer is very limited.Its a generic gq-x4 willem programmer.Supports alot of chips but isnt all that great.

[AudiS4]

Also I know that most old dashes do not have k line to perform this over obd in that case the cluster needs to be dissasembled and eeprom desoldered correct??I have heard people just using a clip to read eeprom but that it isnt always accurate and its best to desolder.

[enigmauk]

Correct, you will always need to remove dash for some cars.

[smartymarti]

as some one says on here best tool is brain.exe no amount of tools will do everything

[tranzavanza]

regardless of the comments on the forum about Digimaster2 I highly recommended it.
It has support for vehicles up to around 2006 and you can do a big variety of eeproms: 24xxx 25xxx 93xxx 35080 Motorola hc , 912 and 9s12.

I have never tried the OBD functions and will never do but is the tool that stays on my bench 24/7.

Just my opinion