Renault Scenic II Johnson-controls Display powerUp

[crackintosh]

Hi.

Can somebody help me with CAN-ID and CAN-message to power-up this dashboard on table. Don't tell me to buy emulator - I don't have time to wait. Thank you.

Renault Scenic:
1 = +12v
2 = GND
29 = CAN Low
30 = CAN High

Thank you.

[Mezz_cro]

Hello

As i know Scenic instrument cluster you can t turn on without emulator,but instrument cluster of Espace you can without emulator,i test that on my table.

Enjoy

[crackintosh]

help me with CAN-ID and CAN-message!

[omglol]

And would like to know this too.

[gepakg]

MUX can,not so easy...

try with +12 on pin 1 red connector with 10k resistor to start small display...

regards Gepa


help me with CAN-ID and CAN-message!

[msienicki]

for scenic:
ID DLC Data
215 4 FF F0 FF 02
284 8 00 00 00 00 00 00 7A 00
285 8 00 00 00 00 00 00 7A 01
2A0 5 C8 FF FF FF FF
354 8 00 00 00 00 00 00 06 00
35D 8 10 03 00 00 08 00 50 00
5C5 8 84 01 39 8E 06 E0 00 00
60D 8 78 12 00 00 3A 3C 22 48
625 4 02 00 BD 02
645 3 00 FF FF
75E 4 01 19 29 00

[omglol]

Need to send this ones just once, one after another, or in an infinite loop?

[msienicki]

I have always setup each id in loop

[crackintosh]

Tested with CAN-HACKER with mictronics.de USB-CAN interface.
Loop period of each ID = 1mS. Speed = 250kbps
Not working :-(

[solitaire]

Tested with CAN-HACKER with mictronics.de USB-CAN interface.
Loop period of each ID = 1mS. Speed = 250kbps
Not working :-(
I'm not sure but I think speed must be 500kbps.

[crackintosh]

Tested on Speed = 500kbps. Not working!

[msienicki]

I did reaserch and test on agv4500 with can hacker software. is working for scenic dash. dont remember now speed of CAN 250 or 500.
u can find attached tx list from can hacker

[crackintosh]

This log is for that dash?:
http://www.mte.net/sites/default/files/photos/can600.jpg

[msienicki]

yes, for this one. pinout for grey conector:
1 - +12V
2 - GND
30 - CH
29 - CL
try to use 120ohm resistor between can high and can low.

[crackintosh]

Checked all the options - without success :-(

[automan]

try to send them once.once you power it up with emulator you can disconnect can and dash remain powered

[crackintosh]

already tried. After sending message sequence I alltime get "Bus Error".
And the terminator R=120 does not change the situation.

[automan]

maybe 1k will work

[morfej]

Resistor should be between 150R-220R.

[crackintosh]

Using USB-CAN-Control software i see the error:

ECR: TX Error detected
Segment: Acknowledge Slot

That means that the dash does not answer to my message - No ASK!!!.

[tas_daz]

i have the same dash and i have uch from megane 2 .can anybody know the pin for power in uch and pin for can low and high to conect with dash?
maybe and you take one used uch and conect in your board

[crackintosh]

Take it... CAN + PWR

[tas_daz]

yes but the uch conection i don t know i mean the 2 lines from uch

[stauss]

Hi all,
somebody knows other can messages for display rpm and speed on the dashboard ?
thanks

[Romanky]

I also have a problem, a large screen is OK and show little longer, do not go hours
Temperature and outdoor thermometer on a small screen does not power on glowing.
It did not deal with someone where is the problem ?

[Romanky]

Still unresolved, he became increasingly seeking the cause.

The car is still on a big screen! Small no !

[chipinvader]

If only anybody need.
I had this with no resistor.
Scenic II

[TxList]
Message0Id=354
Message0DLC=8
Message0Data=00 00 00 00 00 00 06 00
Message0Period=1000
Message0Comment=
Message0Mode=off
Message0TriggerId=
Message0TriggerData=0
Message1Id=35D
Message1DLC=8
Message1Data=10 03 20 00 00 00 50 00
Message1Period=1000
Message1Comment=
Message1Mode=off
Message1TriggerId=
Message1TriggerData=0
Message2Id=374
Message2DLC=3
Message2Data=28 02 3B
Message2Period=1000
Message2Comment=
Message2Mode=off
Message2TriggerId=
Message2TriggerData=0
Message3Id=743
Message3DLC=8
Message3Data=02 10 C0 00 00 00 00 00
Message3Period=1000
Message3Comment=
Message3Mode=off
Message3TriggerId=743
Message4Id=743
Message4DLC=8
Message4Data=04 30 03 20 01 00 00 00
Message4Period=1000
Message4Comment=
Message4Mode=off
Message4TriggerId=
Message5Id=743
Message5DLC=8
Message5Data=02 10 C0 00 00 00 00 00
Message5Period=1000
Message5Comment=
Message5Mode=off
Message5TriggerId=
Message6Id=743
Message6DLC=8
Message6Data=04 30 04 20 0A 00 00 00
Message6Period=1000
Message6Comment=
Message6Mode=off
Message6TriggerId=
Message7Id=743
Message7DLC=8
Message7Data=04 30 04 20 0B 00 00 00
Message7Period=1000
Message7Comment=SPEED
Message7Mode=off
Message7TriggerId=
Message8Id=743
Message8DLC=8
Message8Data=04 30 05 20 46 00 00 00
Message8Period=1000
Message8Comment=
Message8Mode=off
Message8TriggerId=
Message9Id=743
Message9DLC=8
Message9Data=04 30 05 20 44 00 00 00
Message9Period=1000
Message9Comment=TACHO FULL
Message9Mode=off
Message9TriggerId=
Message10Id=743
Message10DLC=8
Message10Data=04 30 01 20 09 00 00 00
Message10Period=1200
Message10Comment=TL
Message10Mode=off
Message10TriggerId=
Message11Id=743
Message11DLC=8
Message11Data=04 30 01 20 0C 00 00 00
Message11Period=1000
Message11Comment=TR
Message11Mode=off
Message11TriggerId=
Message12Id=60D
Message12DLC=8
Message12Data=00 10 00 00 27 73 21 71
Message12Period=1000
Message12Comment=
Message12Mode=off
Message12TriggerId=
Message13Id=-1

[dirksan12]

The CAN-Messages from Chipinvader works quite well.

I've added them to my little "CAN-Emulator on the cheap" project https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/880593-HowTo-build-a-low-cost-DIY-CAN-Emulator-(at-least-for-Renault-Scenic-II-dashes)?p=4065284&viewfull=1#post4065284