Sirius 32 , fgtech not read on boot

[Nio]

Hello guys,
anyone test to read on boot,with fgtech2, ecu sirius32?
I try it but not success. Thanks.:ciao:

[guidotacco]

read and write by obd siemens sirius32 clio 1400cc 16v con my fgtech2

[mbtun]

By OBD is working OK but in boot mine does not work also.

[alfabit]

Must put Sirius 32 on boot mode, same problem with Galetto 1 too.

[radsky]

Must put Sirius 32 on boot mode, same problem with Galetto 1 too.

boot mode don`t work with my fgtech2. maybe cloners missing L-line like on galetto1....

[kire106ka]

I had same problem with galleto 2 Obd partiar read boot mode no sucess there is some fix for obd read

[Azzx]

I don't succeed either with Sirius 32N + Galletto 1260 in boot mode.
Desoldering did the job :D.

[Nio]

I try to make in boot with grey wire with 1K resistance. I sold it to pin 28 of 28F200, as image give instruction. anyone can read it correctly and give information how to do it. I think will be helpful for DK brothers.

[mbtun]

If it's not working in boot, just desolder read / write by external programer ... 29f200 desolder / solder it's a 10 min job. So why wasting more time if it's not working?

[radsky]

If it's not working in boot, just desolder read / write by external programer ... 29f200 desolder / solder it's a 10 min job. So why wasting more time if it's not working?

yes, you are right, but will be nice to read this old ecu in boot mode without desoldering ;-)

[kire106ka]

Yes after didn't read by obd and boot desolder it's nise byt there is other way (ddt 2000) works with vag kkl 409.1 i have it and i didn't have time to try some say work you can read write by obd

[radsky]

Yes after didn't read by obd and boot desolder it's nise byt there is other way (ddt 2000) works with vag kkl 409.1 i have it and i didn't have time to try some say work you can read write by obd

ddt2000 read full flash ?

[kire106ka]

Next time i will try it's better then desolder

[nikinik]

i dont know why but FG tech 2 in instruction on pin 7 on obd it say IGNITION .everybody know this is K line.
But on bench cable green wires are realy Ignition i mesure them and show 12 volts?

can open documents folder of FG2 and in tricore pdf read this mates.

[unar]

Somebody have succes with read sirius32 via fgtech till now?
it is quite interesting subject.

[alfabit]

Nobody till now put Sirius32 into boot mode.

And by the way not desoldering 29f200 is missing all fun !

So if you want to have fun, desolder 29f200, my friends !

Electronics means blow (desoldering) job !

L.E. blow hot air of course ....lol

[veloseeped]

To read Sirius32 in boot mode try to lift pin44 (/RESET) of 29F200 and connect it to +5V via 0.5K...1K resistor.

[alfabit]

The discution was about putting the Sirius into boot mode and read it by OBD plug with Galeto 1/2.
Having open the ecu as Byteshooter photo shows is easyer to desolder the prom, no need to play with resistors, switches and wires with no concludence for the result of the reading.
Put Sirius into boot mode and read it by OBD, this is all those people wants.
Do not take it off the car , m8 !

[veloseeped]

Put Sirius into boot mode and read it by OBD, this is all those people wants.


Until you lift this pin you CAN NOT access to ext flash in boot mode regardless tool you using - G2, BS or any other...

[alfabit]

This is what i said, only with sirius on the table on the lab you can make that job, no way to do this with ecu on the car.
And on the lab i desolder the prom, for me it is easyer.

[veloseeped]

Having open the ecu as Byteshooter photo shows is easyer to desolder the prom, no need to play with resistors, switches and wires with no concludence for the result of the reading.

And more...
You never put C167 in boot mode in closed ECU case - forget it forever.

[camil]

+1

i would like to see how to put an ECU in boot mode without opening it and using the boot pin/resistors to be able to read it on the car by obd.

[gezame]

Until you lift this pin you CAN NOT access to ext flash in boot mode regardless tool you using - G2, BS or any other...

Hi
Read-Write in boot without lift pin.
Br.

[unar]

Hi
Read-Write in boot without lift pin.
Br.

can You share with us how did You make it - connections.

unar

[alfabit]

Hi
Read-Write in boot without lift pin.
Br.

Can you share the file read on boot mode ? I am curious about the format, size and so on.

[albertros]

Hi
Clone FG tech vrs 5.0 from gocarddiag.
Read sirius 32n in boot mode
pin 28 to GRD via ressistor 1000
but not full read only first part of dump

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4682342/sirius%2032n%20boot%20mode.doc

[alfabit]

But...can be read whole flash or a part of it ... ? :dong:
But...pin 44 to +Vcc as veloseeped said or pin 28 to GND as albertros said ...? :hmmmm2:
But...which tool, byteshooter ( veloseeped ) or FGaletto ( albertros ) ?:dontknow:

Failing to have a fair answer those honest questions, i stay to my opinion to desolder flash and read proprely with a programmer. :bounce:

[gezame]

Can you share the file read on boot mode ? I am curious about the format, size and so on.

Hi
File read is full, 256kb.
Br.

[stefaudio]

This is cool no more desoldering of flash any more :barscarf:

[alfabit]

File read is full, 256kb.


Yes, i thought so, it is an other format than the one obtained by reading on programmer.
Can be translated with OLS.


This is cool no more desoldering of flash any more :barscarf:

Anyway, you must open the ecu on the table, can`t be done by OBD with ecu on the car, this was the idea...

[tehnosoftex]

Ive tried with galleto 2, piassini and byteshooter to read sirius 32 in boot mode but none prevailed. However, I did not try to rise the reset pin. Piasini read some thing but only garbage, byteshooter only identify the ecu, galleto even cannot identify it. May be there are some tricks to make it right. I desolder the flash eventualy and do the job.

[kire106ka]

It's nise to do it over obd as i said before my galletto do it only partial read i try it 20 times same situation
So tomorow i will try it with ddt just to see is it true that ddt read full flash i'll let you know.For me its more interesting to desolder byt sometime its good to do it by obd
Is there some secret that gezame know in boot mode i get only ecu id.

[kire106ka]

And i forgot if you work on these ecu these is tool for you
http://noimmo.lt/equipment/params/141/

[gezame]

Yes, i thought so, it is an other format than the one obtained by reading on programmer.
Can be translated with OLS.



Anyway, you must open the ecu on the table, can`t be done by OBD with ecu on the car, this was the idea...

Hi
If you read flash with eeprom programer, file is in "cripto-siemens" format.
If you read flash with fgtech, interface decript file and save in format "bin".
Br.

[gezame]

It's nise to do it over obd as i said before my galletto do it only partial read i try it 20 times same situation
So tomorow i will try it with ddt just to see is it true that ddt read full flash i'll let you know.For me its more interesting to desolder byt sometime its good to do it by obd
Is there some secret that gezame know in boot mode i get only ecu id.

Hi
The only secret is carefully check the instructions, and follow the exact procedure to read-write flash in boot-mode.
For example, if you look at the protocol of fgtech sirius32, 29f200 flash only appears "BB".
Testing boot-mode fgtech on sirius 32 with flash 29f200 "AB", and do not read flash, only ID.
Br.

[gezame]

Ive tried with galleto 2, piassini and byteshooter to read sirius 32 in boot mode but none prevailed. However, I did not try to rise the reset pin. Piasini read some thing but only garbage, byteshooter only identify the ecu, galleto even cannot identify it. May be there are some tricks to make it right. I desolder the flash eventualy and do the job.

Hi
Good idea, next sirius32 29f200AB flash, having it in my hands, trying to lift the reset pin.
Br.

[alfabit]

...i will try it with ddt just to see is it true that ddt read full

Yes, with ddt you can read full flash, only ecu unlocked ( proper keys or immo off ) and a piece of sw that allows you to unblock the ecu.
So ecu must be unlocked ( first step, keys or off ) and unblock ( it`s second step, with a sw ). And supposing you have a batabase for reading-writing specific ecu in BTP mode. I did that job with a lappy on some cars, changing the whole contents of the flash in case of changing ecu with a ecu from an other type of engine ( e.g. Reno 1.6 8v ecu changing sw flash with 1.6 16v for proper running of engine )

[albertros]

I am with Alfabit on this, just remove flash.

I have just played with 5 ecu's I could only read one. I know at least one other is good.

very fickle on the one that reads/writes sometimes you have to re-load then it works.
I swapped my power supply now get 13v but made little to no difference.

I'll check my usb leads and open up the tin to see what the solderings like.

[kire106ka]

Hi
The only secret is carefully check the instructions, and follow the exact procedure to read-write flash in boot-mode.
For example, if you look at the protocol of fgtech sirius32, 29f200 flash only appears "BB".
Testing boot-mode fgtech on sirius 32 with flash 29f200 "AB", and do not read flash, only ID.
Br.

Thanks you'r right that's why i love DK
29f200b is boot sector flash memory
29f200a is sectored flash memory
so there is a diference if you read pdf files
So will try on first sirius 32 with b mark on it

[tas_daz]

sorry but it is my first time.can you tell me the colors of cable?the black is ground?the red is +12v , the blue?
thanks

[tas_daz]

or with obd cable you conect?in car with obd i read only 32 or 34 kb i think is only the tunning memory.to read all flash in car with obd it is not posible?i see the cable but it is wrong color.can tell me the color of one by one in sirius 32 to understand?and in 28 pin i must conect 1000ohm?if i don t not read?thanks

[kire106ka]

or with obd cable you conect?in car with obd i read only 32 or 34 kb i think is only the tunning memory.to read all flash in car with obd it is not posible?i see the cable but it is wrong color.can tell me the color of one by one in sirius 32 to understand?and in 28 pin i must conect 1000ohm?if i don t not read?thanks

First what tool you use to read sirius 32 and read the whole post you will learn something.The colors of obd cable or galletto cable.Best is to check by measuring.
To read ecu on table you need +12v ,negative,l line and k line and you can measure that on obd plug here is the picture

[gjuzel]

Somebody have succes with read sirius32 via fgtech till now?
it is quite interesting subject.

DDT2000 _v2.3.0.1

[3abas27]

DDT2000 _v2.3.0.1
IF DDT200 READ FULL FLASH WHTS ABOUT BOOT MODE FOR IT?

[kire106ka]

It's hard with ddt 2000 you can't read properly so best way is with programer desolder FLASH.
That's best way and simple.Many people have ddt2000 and didn't try it so they just have heard that work.Read upper alfabit post and you will figure out what i'am talking about.

[tas_daz]

with galleto 2 i go to read.you can make
one video of boot mode to see.thanks

[tek2dk]

Hi friends,

I purchased a siemens EMS 3132and I want to read in boot mode with G2.
Flash memory is 29F200bb with pin 28 linked to the mass through a rezistor of 1000 ohms just like in photography.
The result .... nothing, just error.
I noted that : If I put pin 28 of the flash on GND (trough resistor) with the G2 on , it stuck to.
When I click on ECU DATA looks like in the photo number 2 .I don't know what it means "REMOVE FEEDING" and "GIVE FEEDING"!!.
Please help me with some tips!
Thx.!

[eurouser]

Hi friends,

I purchased a siemens EMS 3132and I want to read in boot mode with G2.
Flash memory is 29F200bb with pin 28 linked to the mass through a rezistor of 1000 ohms just like in photography.
The result .... nothing, just error.
I noted that : If I put pin 28 of the flash on GND (trough resistor) with the G2 on , it stuck to.
When I click on ECU DATA looks like in the photo number 2 .I don't know what it means "REMOVE FEEDING" and "GIVE FEEDING"!!.
Please help me with some tips!
Thx.!

try to connect only gnd (boot)without resistor,connect +12v to ecu and remove gnd boot and try.....

[tek2dk]

Thx for advice.
I will try and report !

[tek2dk]

it`s ok now, I read and write in boot mode without problems !

Thanks to D.K.

[Anydraj]

Hi,
Use I/O terminal hw
http://www.immo-tools.lt/en/products/renault.htm

Sirius OBD read and write full 256 kB

[morfej]

other option is smok ECU-X Tool.

[3abas27]

fgtech2 work ok on boot mode pin 28 to mass without 1000 k resistor
read and write 256 ko crypt file
but only for flash ST for AMD not work

[prusony]

My experiences with G2-3/led on the table.
SIRIUS 32N / S 110130040 A
Conect:
03 - GND
29 - +12V
30 - +12V
56 - K-line
26 - L-line
---------------------------------------------
1) Mode: CAR/RENAULT/MEGANE/SIRIUS32

ECU Data:

8200035705
0000000000
22B0D10000
---
DATA READING
Start data reading...error KONST
operation cancelled
(75% reading)

Read file: - no work.
---------------------------------------------
2) Mode: TOOLS BOOT MODE / SIEMENS-INFENION C167
(Use BOOT pin)

ECU Data:

ECU NUMBER NOT FOUND
..S108686002A0

---
DATA READING
Start data reading...
(100% reading)

Read file:

READING ECU
Start reading...ERROR FLASH UNKNOW
operation cancelled
================================================== =========
3) Did cleaning ECU and conect Renault-IMMO-emulator
result is absolutely same ...
================================================== =========
================================================== =========
If anyone has ideas - i am ready to check out!
This SIR-32 my personal and bought for experiments....

[DiegoAC]

Hello Guys,

Like most said, desoldering and soldering is the surest way, I tried with piasini master clone put pin 28 to ground using a 1k resistor. Read fine. Writing doesn`t go over 15% after erasing flash- Any ideas? I tried going up to 5K and nothing changes. I yet have to try the 44pin lift and 5v and see what happens. The C167 tool is quite a help when time counts. I`ve seen it working on an original Byteshooter and is a must. If ecu is on car, I use ori Kess2 read and write in full by obd and don`t have to make the format conversion (does it automatically).

Hope to hear any suggestions.

Cheers.

[tas_daz]

i read it in boot mode with resistor but how i convert the file?try to read with all other options ecu.

[pinotec]

When you read the boot mode ,file automatically converted binary

[tiguan]

Galletto V54, NO read Boot flash AMD

[tas_daz]

i can read only like delphi ddcr try it

[dadal]

i can read only like delphi ddcr try it



i can read it ( sirius32) too like delphi,, reading is no problem 256kb good size, but writing stopt all time at 5%,, and give error,,,
I think flash must be erased before writing and galletto cant do that...
have you problem with writing ?

sirius32 N read-write without any problem

[nacerweb]

galletto can read flash ST and not read flash AMD.