Skybox F5...Channel Lists (dbs) issues

[tayta]

Hi Guys

I got my Skybox F5 today and did a scan of channels, finds them okay, i can view them etc.

So I think...lets get a decent channel/fav list from this forum and i'll be sweet.

But..I've been having some problems. Whenever I upload a new listing to my box and it reboots I see the favourites in a list..but most of the channels in these lists say NO SIGNAL.

When I scan manually I can view the channels fine, but using someones lists it seems to not like them, like its on a different frequency to when I manually scan?

I'm only using a 28.2e feed. Any ideas whats going on here?

Appreciate any help.

Tayta

[tayta]

Can anyone suggest anything to try?

I'm on the fw that came preloaded (3601HD_31_10_2012_0B39)

[sb18180]

try this dbs works on my f5 http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f184/channel-list-openbox-sky-numbered-316272/ worth a go and see if you get same problem delete all channels before installing a new dbs. you need your firmware updating aswell get it from skybox.cc latest is SKYBOX_F5_F3_M3_3601HD_CMT_1301230F1C.abs

[tayta]

I did try this one earlier :/...but i'll try again. Ive been deleting all the channel data first but i've not updated the fw. my box comes up with the 'mismatch' error so i think i'll have to use the rs232 port for upgrading the fw if you think it needs doing.

ADDED----

Just tried again. Same happens. Some of them are okay but most of the channels say NO SIGNAL. For example, Animal Planet +1 on channel 535 works fine...but "Blighty" on 534 says NO SIGNAL and the SNR % is like 5 or below. Same as all the sports.

I'm going to do some tests on the Channels I can see on my searches. There must be a difference in the frequencies or something.

[sb18180]

mismatch error with the new firmware .abs? stick the new .abs on usb stick and update with usb

[tayta]

mismatch error with the new firmware .abs? stick the new .abs on usb stick and update with usb

Yeah that don't work. It says Mismatch error on the file. I read that this is often the case when your box has been configured to not accept USB updates to firmware and to get around it update via serial.

[sb18180]

just a thought are you running two boxes at the same time? if so try switching the other box off to see if you get signal back

[tayta]

just a thought are you running two boxes at the same time? if so try switching the other box off to see if you get signal back

No mate, just the one. (Well I have an actual Sky+ box but this is on a different lnb feed)

I think I have found something though.

Check out these tests below on how I find the channel "Sky Sports 1 HD"

I don't find it on the transponder referenced in the file at all??

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Sky Sports 1 HD (FROM IMPORTED CHANNEL LISTING)
FQ 11739 V SR 29500
PID:V 512 A 662AC3 P 512 SID 4001
Transponder 11739/V/29500
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Sky Sports 1 HD (FROM MY OWN SEARCH)(1 OF 4)
FQ 12648 V SR 29624
PID:V 514 A 662AC3 P 514 SID 3877
Transponder 12648/V/29624

Sky Sports 1 HD (FROM MY OWN SEARCH)(2 OF 4)
FQ 12648 H SR 29500
PID:V 514 A 662AC3 P 514 SID 3802
Transponder 12648/H/29500

Sky Sports 1 HD (FROM MY OWN SEARCH)(3 OF 4)
FQ 12648 V SR29624
PID:V 514 A 662AC3 P 514 SID 3802
Transponder 12648/V/29624

Sky Sports 1 HD (FROM MY OWN SEARCH)(4 OF 4)
FQ 12648 H SR 29500
PID:V 514 A 662AC3 P 514 SID 3877
Transponder 12648/H/29500
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[sb18180]

switch off your slybox+ i bet you get your signal back see my post http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f184/loosing-some-channels-two-boxes-running-318990/ a couple of us having this problem with f5 and other boxes running even though they have their own lnb feed

[tayta]

switch off your slybox+ i bet you get your signal back see my post http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f184/loosing-some-channels-two-boxes-running-318990/ a couple of us having this problem with f5 and other boxes running even though they have their own lnb feed

Well it was in standby..but it must have done something. I went and pulled the plug...and the channel I was watching on the F5 went to...NO SIGNAL!

Very odd...i've deleted the channels and now i'm rescanning.

[sb18180]

the only thing we all have in common is an old skydishes mine is 9+ years old mk1 or 2. on a full blind i get 760 odd channels when the other box is off. with the other box turned on i only get 500 and something channels(due to no signal channels not beeing picked up) on a blind scan

[tayta]

ffs no wonder these F5's are cheap. Now I scan...see all my channels, if I delete then update via USB...no channels.

let me try to get it to behave and i'll come back to you with how I get on.

ADDED=====

These boxes are mental. I did a factory reset, followed by an update of the dbs file via USB and it shows the channels, but some of them are not in the right order. So I deleted all channels and updated via USB again...NO CHANNELS.

I'm going to manual scan now then update the dbs without deleting the channels.

[sb18180]

ffs no wonder these F5's are cheap. Now I scan...see all my channels, if I delete then update via USB...no channels.

let me try to get it to behave and i'll come back to you with how I get on.
lol i was at it for days trying different boxes all my skyboxes did the same put a blade box in on the feed that was loosing the channels no problem with that at all but they are 3x the cost. i just think these skyboxes dont marry with some lnbs

[sb18180]

back to the firmware update can you not update via the lan tool programme i know you can transfer files between pc and skybox with it but not sure about update files? never used it just a thought.

[tayta]

I only got this box today so i've not downloaded the tools. I'll take a look into the lan tool.

As for the box, its got a mind of its own. One minute the update from USB works, the next it doesn't. Then sometimes the channels are in an order and other times it just puts them in weird orders and gives me a whole bunch of channels of nothing but odd characters.

What a crazy box.

At this rate i'm thinking of manually doing my own favourite list using the channels it finds on the frequencies it can find them on.

May take me a while, but the quick way of doing it seems to upset this fragile thing!

Thanks for all your advice. I'll check out this tool, maybe I should just update the FW. Do you think it'll help with its mood swings?? lol

[sb18180]

may do i wouldnt bet on it though. they are a good box for what you pay for them after all a freesat hd box is more expensive. but i still think its f5 and old lnb having a fight when other boxes connected.

[tayta]

may do i wouldnt bet on it though. they are a good box for what you pay for them after all a freesat hd box is more expensive. but i still think its f5 and old lnb having a fight when other boxes connected.

Nothin else is connected now and its still psycho lol.

Prime example...I do a USB update...get told there are no channels when I try to exit the menu. I do a factory reset...I get a whole load of channels in groups that they don't relate to. Its crazy.

[sb18180]

if you find a cure for it lrt me know please

[tayta]

Right having spent all weekend trying FW updates and Channel lists on this box, i've found a few things out.

When I delete all the channels on the box and install a new TP_PROG, after the install I hit exit and it says I have no channels. Odd.

If I do a manual scan, then leave the channels in place and THEN install a new TP_PROG it gives me channels....but they are literally all over the place and many of the channels have corrupt names with all odd characters in the name.

BUT....

If I delete ALL the channels....then install a new TP_PROG....AND THEN MANUALLY SCAN AFTER installing the TP_PROG....I get all the channels, in the right favourites and in the right order and name.

Freaky...but I'm happy I now have a sensible list of channels and a workable favourite list.

I've given up on the FW update:giveup:

[althom40]

I only got this box today so i've not downloaded the tools. I'll take a look into the lan tool.

As for the box, its got a mind of its own. One minute the update from USB works, the next it doesn't. Then sometimes the channels are in an order and other times it just puts them in weird orders and gives me a whole bunch of channels of nothing but odd characters.

What a crazy box.

At this rate i'm thinking of manually doing my own favourite list using the channels it finds on the frequencies it can find them on.

May take me a while, but the quick way of doing it seems to upset this fragile thing!

Thanks for all your advice. I'll check out this tool, maybe I should just update the FW. Do you think it'll help with its mood swings?? lol
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Hi Tayta. Welcome to the Open/Skybox. You sum them up
correctly.

Mine is dead and buried.
regards

[bbb_uk]

I only got this box today so i've not downloaded the tools. I'll take a look into the lan tool.

As for the box, its got a mind of its own. One minute the update from USB works, the next it doesn't. Then sometimes the channels are in an order and other times it just puts them in weird orders and gives me a whole bunch of channels of nothing but odd characters.

What a crazy box.

At this rate i'm thinking of manually doing my own favourite list using the channels it finds on the frequencies it can find them on.

May take me a while, but the quick way of doing it seems to upset this fragile thing!

Thanks for all your advice. I'll check out this tool, maybe I should just update the FW. Do you think it'll help with its mood swings?? lolSounds like box is faulty. Try firmware upgrade but make sure you restore defaults first.

See skybox.cc (http://www.skybox.cc/downinfo.asp?id=87) for latest stable firmware for F5.

[tayta]

Lol if only it were that simple.

I've tried and failed at every method of firmware upgrade.

[bbb_uk]

I would say it's a faulty box then. Are you able to return it?

[tayta]

I emailed the guy about the fw update. He said he can do it in store for me..so I'll take it to him and watch him struggle lol.

[uppereastsider]

help, having issues upgrading the channel list - says upgrade failed. i've checked the usb and the file seems to have loaded ok...with skybox f5

[tayta]

Format your USB and put the file on again. Or try another stick.

[sb18180]

I emailed the guy about the fw update. He said he can do it in store for me..so I'll take it to him and watch him struggle lol. he will probly unlock the usb to take updates

[tayta]

If I could get an rs232 link to my f5 to work I'd do it myself. The software I've tried so far from the skybox site hangs on syncing with the stb bit. :banghead:

[badboy1965]

hi guys ,i use x3 lan tool works fine on my f5, its fast, all done on my pc, cccam,softcam etc brill tool.

[bbb_uk]

Personally, as it could be a faulty box i'd take it back to where you bought it. The longer you have it the harder it becomes to return for refund or even a replacement in some circumstances.

If they manage to flash it then you need to make sure you can then as well (inc update channel list) otherwise you will have problems everytime you try to upgrade firmware/channel list.