celica 2005 immo location

[ninja123]

Where is immo stored on this car, ec or immo box? And where is it fitted in car?

4C or 4D?

thanks, ninja

[Snowy79]

Post the VIN and I'll have a look.

[gwee]

ToyoDIY.com (http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/p_E_2005_TOYOTA_CELICA_ZZT231R-BLFVFW_8424.html)

[ninja123]

dont know why you have posted a link to toyota parts mate, i need immo location, ecu or immo box, and position in car, and transponder type.

I am going to this in the morning so i will post results for all to memorize, me included so i wont have to ask again.

ninja

[gwee]

dont know why you have posted a link to toyota parts mate, i need immo location, ecu or immo box, and position in car, and transponder type.

I am going to this in the morning so i will post results for all to memorize, me included so i wont have to ask again.

ninja

Sorry for posting, thought it may help.

Don't worry, it will never happen again.

[Meat-Head]

dont know why you have posted a link to toyota parts mate


Sorry for posting, thought it may help.

Don't worry, it will never happen again.

C'om on guys post nicely or not at all.

OK Gwee didn't give location, but a part number can be searched on here, google and ebay, Gwee don't worry mate, your links are usefull.

[Snowy79]

A simple vin posting and I'd have saved you hunting around the vehicle.

[obdmaster]

I dont think it will have immobox m8, on a 2005 it will be like MR2 in ecu.

Of course i could be wrong but thats where id start.:afraid:

[paul_12345]

I dont think it will have immobox m8, on a 2005 it will be like MR2 in ecu.

Of course i could be wrong but thats where id start.:afraid:


Looks like your right from tango help file "Celica 2000- ECU (93C56)"

[Meat-Head]

A simple vin posting .

Bit 'naughty' posting vin if you don't have to your punter has a chance of seeing there vin if they do a search


I dont think it will have immobox m8, on a 2005 it will be like MR2 in ecu.

.:afraid:


Yeah now you said that couple of years ago - sadly lost the contact details but it was "Some bloke in Scotland who is the only person in the world" who can sort out Toyota ECU and lost keys

Plugged ecu back in and staretd first time.

[gwee]

ToyoDIY.com (http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/p_E_2005_TOYOTA_CELICA_ZZT231R-BLFVFW_8424.html)

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[ninja123]

ok, got out ecu, 93c56 inside - read and looks identical to some other toyota's that i have done, but i wrote in a 4C, a eh2, tpx2, and an original toyota 4C, still no bloody start :(

this is key data from original toyota 4C transponder: 7E4D79C52000000000FA1C7E0000

this is a 55 reg celica, is it possible that it could be a 4D type?

ill just pop out to van for dump then ill post here........

ninja

[obdmaster]

Post dump m8, abrites automatically recognises which toyota model dump is from.
What you using to add key??? tango?? zedbull?? tag keytool

[ninja123]

DUMPS ADDED- i am manually writing key data to dump mate, done like this before, but this little sucker has me by the balls, and its 27 miles away too!

Any help would be wicked - or even tell me where i am going wrong.

posted ori dump and mod after i added key data manually.

ninja

ps - i cant press the 'thanks' button, so you will all have to settle for a 'like' till i get it sorted!!!

[obdmaster]

Its definately 4C m8, but i cant see where software adds transponders as i have no transponders with me to add. You not got your honky tonk zed bull with you???

[Meat-Head]

Its definately 4C m8, but i cant see where software adds transponders as i have no transponders with me to add.???

Aint that typical got a carboard box with about 9 or so 4C's but not got arbtites or anything at home!

[ninja123]

got my zed mate - dont recognise the dump - but dump structure is the same as lots of others that i have done, not sure whats going on here :(

I did post data from 4C that I read with zedbull.

ninja

[obdmaster]

If your part number of ecu is 89666-20050, i have attached a virgin dump. I think toyota new ecu,s learn the transponder they first see as a master key. pass in pm.

[ninja123]

never used a virgin dump on this stuff before, whats the procedure? After 'seeing' first key as master, do i need to add others for this to work or is the master god enough?

Thanks again mate, oh and i see my 'thanks' button is working now!!

ninja

[obdmaster]

I havent used a virgin ecu dump before on a toyota. But id say at this stage 27 miles from home 8.30 in the evening , snowing, honky tonk zedbull not recognising dump, need to buy an AVDI . Id give it a go and see what happens. Whats the worst that can happen???:apthy:

[ninja123]

how does avdi do these, do you have to have a transponder in the 'tag'?

ninja

ps - i really need to invest in an avdi, missed the xmas deal by a day, so im waiting and counting the days (sometimes hours) :(

thanks for your help mate.

[obdmaster]

it still does these by dump in tagkeytool 4c transponder in tag programmer it then adds it to dump .Just write back to 93c56 car starts.

[ninja123]

no option for manually entering key data with avdi?

[obdmaster]

Nope my m8. Sorry

[AUS-MAN]

When using a virgin file the immo system will be looking for 3 keys. First 2 will program as masters and third as valet (sub) key. <<< EDIT - Applies to Toyota 4C immo systems only.

If you only have one key you will have to manually terminate "Automatic mode".
On a Celica to cancel automatic mode turn the key to the on position and depress the brake pedal 5 times. Immo led should now extinguish.

If the immo led is solid when you finish then you are still in automatic mode and the system is still looking to add more keys.

[ninja123]

when adding keys, do i need to turn on ign or just insert key then remove?

ninja

[AUS-MAN]

when adding keys, do i need to turn on ign or just insert key then remove?

ninja

Insert only.
Toyotas have a "key in ignition switch"

In normal operation the immo system is disabled as soon as a programmed key is inserted.

[Snowy79]

You may have to do it with the drivers door open to activiate the key in ignition circuit.

[ninja123]

i went back to this car today, but before i tried anything, i tried zedbull again and it recognised the dump this time!!! Programmed to a EH2 head and all good.

Thanks to all who gave help here, most appreciated.

ps, i wouldnt mind knowing how many different remotes there are for this brand, or even how to stop the alarm going off!!

ninja

[Meat-Head]

i tried zedbull again and it recognised the dump this time!!! Programmed to a EH2 head and all good.



ON TOPIC:-

i had that with chinky zedbull deffo good dump - i skanked the immo box - it worked etc etc.
but refused to know it and it was there on the list!

ON TOPIC:-

Them TPX2 and EH2 and orginal toyota 4C - can they be reprogrammed or are tey now bin fodder?
If can be reprogrammed how many times?

[Fallen]

ON TOPIC:-

i had that with chinky zedbull deffo good dump - i skanked the immo box - it worked etc etc.
but refused to know it and it was there on the list!

ON TOPIC:-

Them TPX2 and EH2 and orginal toyota 4C - can they be reprogrammed or are tey now bin fodder?
If can be reprogrammed how many times?

Tpx1 can reuse, tpx2 used once unless you purposely don't lock it. Original zedbull gives you option not to lock them. All electronic 4c and 4d can be reused.

4c and 4d chips do not lock and can be reused on other cars.

[bram380]

TPX1 for 4C
TPX2 for 4D
Both transponder can reprogram many times.

EH2 one time programed.

[gokey]

tpx2 not locked can reused
EH key can reused , many programm

[ninja123]

EH2 heads are great for test purposes, can re write for ever - I have problems with tpx1, tpx2 as described above.

Can id60 chips be re used? ie old renault megane/scenic type??

ninja

[ninja123]

Got called back to this toyota celica again, immo light flashing and not starting - read key i made with zedbull and it read ok, copied it to a eh2 head and car starts - Any one else had problems with TPX1 failing?

ninja

[Snowy79]

TPX1 sometimes does not have the guts to kick a decent signal out. Hold the chip to the ariel and see what happens.

[ninja123]

i throw tpx in the bin, wrote data to a zedbull cloning chip and all good :)
ninja

[Meat-Head]

Where and howmuch. Zb clone chip?

yours china or orginal?

[keygargoil]

write your key bytewise they are split up different for the ecu variants yours has keys 1, 2 aned 4 used in it
key1 00 97 3a 08
key2 78 96 3a 08
key4 de 3c 34 08

[ninja123]

keygargoil - I tried writing like this but not worked, put dump to zedbull and wrote to tpx1 and worked for 2 days, then car not accept tpx1 anymore, so copied to Z4c chip and working now.

Meaty - Z4C chip about ?6 from 3d GROUP.

This chip is cheaper than tpx1 and it works with clone zedbull- so as for all who asking about thier clone zed not working with tpx1, get yourself an electronic head to write to, then use zed standalone to copy from EH2 to Z4C chip - works great.

ninja

[AUS-MAN]

Ninja don't forget once you have a working master key you use the on-board manual programming procedure to program a real 4C transponder.
This is a good method if you have trouble or are afraid to modify the original dump.