What Hardware/Software do i need to chiptune VAG Cars

[Avf130]

Im going to buy a lead (original) for tunning VAG cars ECU.
What do i need ?
Thanks

[bmgadam]

How much money you have for this ?

[Avf130]

How much money you have for this ?

Idk i just want something that will cover a lot of vag cars and be safe.

[bondiblu]

If you're having to ask this question, then what you need to do is find a good professional tuner who will sell you a slave tool for example a Kess V2. You will also want VCDS as a minimum to do diag/logging and even then you should get a KTAG aswell for for BDM recovery purposes should something go wrong.

VAG's are well covered my most pro tools

[Avf130]

If i decide to do ONLY edc15,16 MPPS+ winols is fine ?

[bondiblu]

If i decide to do ONLY edc15,16 MPPS+ winols is fine ?
In my opinion, you still need further tools for disaster recovery. BDM for EDC16 and a programmer (+ solering skills) for the older ones
and VCDS (essential). MPPS is a good tool for what it is and should suffice.

[Avf130]

In my opinion, you still need further tools for disaster recovery. BDM for EDC16 and a programmer (+ solering skills) for the older ones
and VCDS (essential). MPPS is a good tool for what it is and should suffice.

Lol i dont have solder skills. I have VCDS.Where can i get BDM ?

[bondiblu]

You will need to have a plan in place incase something goes wrong, even if it means knowing someone close to hand that can do the job for you for a fee.
Trust me, sh*t happens when you least expect it. What counts is being able to rectify a problem in a timely manner. EVERY decent tuner I know has been in
one of these situations where a recovery job needs doing.

There are several good BDM options available on the market, all depends on your budget. Some tools for example the Magpro2 (optional) and FGTECH Galletto V2 has integrated BDM, so one tool can perform different functions.

[Avf130]

There are at least 2500 $ :afraid:

[bondiblu]

There are at least 2500 $ :afraid: Yip, you get what you pay for. Have a look at CMD kit haha or even Alientech kit.

[ominimicu]

buy a galletto 2. it will cover obd and bdm(in case you brick the ecu)

[rideon]

There are at least 2500 $ :afraid:
Avf130 (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/358116-avf130/) ...:concern:
One piece of advice M8.....
Read this thread,...5 minutes worth of reading .....:bebored:
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f173/damaged-turbo-charger-after-remap-edc16-golf-5-140hp-332554/
How much do you think is a bricked ECU...or worse...engine damage?


Need some cash to start this kind of business....
Another bad news is that summer school for tunners is closed.....
Self study,trial & error are the choices if you want to spare some money....

Lol i dont have solder skills.
May i add that this is NOT a + in this business :questionmark:

[Avf130]

Yes i read that thread :(

[ominimicu]

nice one rideon. Mate it s long way...and there is not much money in this. every day more people start...and fake tuners etc, and guys like you. You ll lose more than you ll earn. If it s money that you seek, go for selling diag tools.

trust me...i did this profesionaly and i lost my job...now nowbody will get into that busines

[Avf130]

nice one rideon. Mate it s long way...and there is not much money in this. every day more people start...and fake tuners etc, and guys like you. You ll lose more than you ll earn. If it s money that you seek, go for selling diag tools.

trust me...i did this profesionaly and i lost my job...now nowbody will get into that busines

I think ill be the first one at my State.
I thought people will get curious and do some maps

[ominimicu]

where u are from there are no tuners? study a bit the market...if there is enough demand...it may be worth. you could read write, but not tune yourself

[mishu_b]

Dear owner,

this job it is easy as looks like in the very first view.

You have take care about:
- not all EDC15 can be done (read/write) via OBD2 plug
- not all EDC16 can be done (read/write) via OBD2 plug
- your flasher tool needs to be with technical support included - in the very beginning you will need a lot of this!
- you need also recovery tool (BDM, external programmer)
- your moded files have to be done by somebody who knows what needs to the moded
- be prepared for "unlike" behavior of the tool and also of the ECU
- be prepared to have also customers which will like to have different "mods"
- be prepared also for buying spare ECUs

As starting point - I recommend you to:
- buy a tool according to you needs but according to your local market.
- find a tuner who could also give you support for possible issue.

Start to understand the engine - how does it work!

regards

[filecloud]

First one in your state? Where do you live? Atlantis? Moon?

[OVERSPEED]

I used to say here that this is a task that demands learn mandarin to be able to read a technical book in latin !!!

You?ll have to be high schooled in the mechanics (to know what you have and can?t do with the engine), will have to learn a lot of things in eletronic (how signal and control are made by an microprocessed eletronic device) to begin understand why Bosch, Marelli, Siemens, etc engineers made every kind of strategy in ECUs...

The hard thing is figure it out WHY in one ECU the things are made diferent than another...

[Babos]

Dear owner,

this job it is easy as looks like in the very first view.

You have take care about:
- not all EDC15 can be done (read/write) via OBD2 plug
- not all EDC16 can be done (read/write) via OBD2 plug
- your flasher tool needs to be with technical support included - in the very beginning you will need a lot of this!
- you need also recovery tool (BDM, external programmer)
- your moded files have to be done by somebody who knows what needs to the moded
- be prepared for "unlike" behavior of the tool and also of the ECU
- be prepared to have also customers which will like to have different "mods"
- be prepared also for buying spare ECUs

As starting point - I recommend you to:
- buy a tool according to you needs but according to your local market.
- find a tuner who could also give you support for possible issue.

Start to understand the engine - who does it work!

regards


+100!
P.s And find place in your city who can FIXED your bad job if sameting go wrong! it is very important for bigineres!!!
When i starting working in this job i have bad expireance with bricke ecu :afraid: and i find only 1 tuner who for big money reanimate this ecu and do my started job!
And aboute BDM100 it is good tool for recovery but we all remember this time when sell bad clone part and after we borning ecus.
Need bay good tools and working with masters who know ur job.
Thank you for atencion
&
Best regards.

[Avf130]

Thanks u guys

Appreciate this !



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