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mexanico1971
19th May, 2013, 08:16 PM
Hi !
I read today one zafira B, edc16c39 0281014024 DTH by OBD plug width FGT2 V51 !
by the way, any one know the pins for the ecu +12, gnd . etc !
I want to read it by BDM, but can not find the pins out, if some one knows please share !
any one know the address for speed limit ?!
or can anyone remove it for me !

I gonna left the file read by obd plug !

thank"s in advance

camil
20th May, 2013, 12:47 AM
Which is the limit in your zafira actually?

mexanico1971
20th May, 2013, 08:14 PM
thank"s Camil for reply !
oner say"s that speed limit is bettwin 215km/h and 220km/h !
by the way camil, if we made egr off do I have to erase the DTC from the file ?!
to switch off the egr is in MPC or MW58xxxx ?!

thank"s Camil

camil
20th May, 2013, 11:21 PM
Hi.

Let's see if this one do the trick ;)

mexanico1971
21st May, 2013, 12:23 AM
thank"s Camil I will try it tomorrow !
but now I have another problem !
I think I swicth of the EGR but is still get the DTC on dash !

can some one check this and see what is wrong !

Thank"s in advance

BR

camil
21st May, 2013, 12:48 AM
I'm on the phone now, tomorrow will look for the egr thing.

Btw how did you do egr off? Flat egr map or hysteresis?

mexanico1971
21st May, 2013, 02:16 AM
I'm on the phone now, tomorrow will look for the egr thing.

Btw how did you do egr off? Flat egr map or hysteresis?


hysteresis !

some time ago I have a similar in one SAAB !

thank"s for help friend !

camil
21st May, 2013, 10:13 AM
Seems you zeroed the correct maps for egr close, what DTC you have now?

mexanico1971
21st May, 2013, 02:10 PM
Seems you zeroed the correct maps for egr close, what DTC you have now?



p507



one thing !

car have normal and sport mode !

now the owner say, that he lose the sport control mode , in automatic gear box !
file only got 3 driver wish map"s !

is there any map related width sport mode ?!

BR

camil
21st May, 2013, 02:40 PM
If you put original map back all works fine, and no errors?

filecloud
21st May, 2013, 03:17 PM
Hello
Make shure your car is running from the right datablock. The full original has 2 datablocks!! You only read the last one with your tool.
greetings,
filecloud

veloseeped
21st May, 2013, 03:44 PM
oner say"s that speed limit is bettwin 215km/h and 220km/h !

Are you sure it is software limit?
What is aproximate engine max power now?
To achieve a max 220kmh level on Zafira-B your engine must have at least 205PS max power.
or (for example) 240PS for max 230kmh
Another words +55PS or +90PS added to the stock 150PS value.

dimmy68
21st May, 2013, 04:11 PM
Actualy, real speed limit in original file is 210kmh.

mexanico1971
21st May, 2013, 04:59 PM
Hello
Make shure your car is running from the right datablock. The full original has 2 datablocks!! You only read the last one with your tool.
greetings,
filecloud


yes !
I think you are right !
I have made a compare width other files and is missing the first data block !
the ecu have different pins they are "thins " , this ecu don"t have the large pins like this one !
that"s why I do not made BDM read !

now is dificul to get a new ori file !
if I write the ori that I read, the first block data is missing, because the tool never gona write it again !


regards

mexanico1971
21st May, 2013, 05:04 PM
Are you sure it is software limit?
What is aproximate engine max power now?
To achieve a max 220kmh level on Zafira-B your engine must have at least 205PS max power.
or (for example) 240PS for max 230kmh
Another words +55PS or +90PS added to the stock 150PS value.

(copy paste ) oner say"s that speed limit is bettwin 215km/h and 220km/h !
I know what you mean speed / PS !
I do not have DYNO to make measurements, but this values are from before remap !
the deal is made EGR off and soft remap !

br

veloseeped
21st May, 2013, 05:17 PM
I do not have DYNO to make measurements, but this values are from before remap !
the deal is made EGR off and soft remap !

Just open a manufacturer datasheet for stock car

Vmax = 202 or 198 km/h
Two Vmax values because this car can have two variants of main gear ratio - 3.83 or 2.77
Software limiter is set above both real physically values.

filecloud
21st May, 2013, 05:44 PM
Who cares about the plug? This is a Bosch edc16. It hast the standard BDM contacts on the board. All contacts are made with evc header 143 including power!
greetings,
filecloud

mexanico1971
21st May, 2013, 06:04 PM
Who cares about the plug? This is a Bosch edc16. It hast the standard BDM contacts on the board. All contacts are made with evc header 143 including power!
greetings,
filecloud

I"M 150km from home !
I only bring FGT2 width me
don"t I need to feed the ECU by the OBD plug width 12v + gnd ?!
because I use chinese BDM fgt2 adapter from the chinese BDM frame !

thank"s for help !

mexanico1971
21st May, 2013, 06:13 PM
Who cares about the plug? This is a Bosch edc16. It hast the standard BDM contacts on the board. All contacts are made with evc header 143 including power!
greetings,
filecloud

I"M 150km from home !
I only bring FGT2 width me
don"t I need to feed the ECU by the OBD plug width 12v + gnd ?!
because I use chinese BDM fgt2 adapter from the chinese BDM frame !

thank"s for help !

filecloud
21st May, 2013, 06:56 PM
Sorry, can't help with that. I only use original EVC BDM100. You must contact your tool supplier for support.
greetings,
filecloud

dimmy68
21st May, 2013, 08:25 PM
Hi guys, I found something - a quality picture - BDM area is in red reactangle, but description not yet. In secondary picture you can see ECU pinouts, but I'm not sure about usefulness. :beer:

dimmy68
21st May, 2013, 08:31 PM
By the way, you could switch off speed limiter using ECUSAFE v.1.9.3
Regards!

mexanico1971
23rd May, 2013, 02:12 AM
hi guys !
I thinking in this one !
get a full file width the 2 group"s map"s , cut half and paste in to the original file !
will this work ?!

waiting some opinions ?!
value opinions please, don"t spawn the thread !

regards

filecloud
23rd May, 2013, 06:32 AM
No. Your tool will not write that area, whatever you do.
Either use Byteshooter via OBD for full file write or use BDM as i suggested.
greetings,
filecloud

mexanico1971
23rd May, 2013, 09:48 AM
No. Your tool will not write that area, whatever you do.
Either use Byteshooter via OBD for full file write or use BDM as i suggested.
greetings,
filecloud

by obd plug I know, is not gone write it !
but by BDM maybe it write full map !
questan is !
is gonna work ?!
br

filecloud
23rd May, 2013, 12:21 PM
Read out your full BDM and post it here

mexanico1971
23rd May, 2013, 04:21 PM
ok !
job done !
thank"s to everybody who help me !
don"t get for shore what"s going on, but today I go to the car flash the file made width your help and everything is working again EGR off, and normal and sport mode switch button !


regards folk"s