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fruti
6th September, 2013, 12:04 PM
Hello guys!
I just lose my temper today !
I CUT also line 30
I try to IMMO off on SAFIR 2. I try with 23 pin to GROUND NOT WORKING ... Car won't start!
I try Immo DECODER .... Same shit don't work ... Car won't start.
If i mess WITH KEY car start .... like it was not virgin.
So is it possible i need EMULATOR ?

Don't know what to do any more :(
Please HELP :)

skens
6th September, 2013, 01:28 PM
hi
not by type of car!!
The most important information that you have 27c512 or 28c512 inside
because there is a difference if the 27c then to 23 pin mcu
, if it is 28C to 22 pin MCU
immo pin 30
regards

fruti
6th September, 2013, 01:38 PM
Bro ... it is 27c512 But don't work .... :(

fruti
6th September, 2013, 01:43 PM
I just reading this and i see i need to put Safir2 to ADVANCED 1 or 2 mode ... i use Standard.
If i working via 23 pin to mass .... nothing happen. I know that it must CLICK CLICK and restart fuel pump but when i do that it nothing happen. No restarting no noise.
That why i use this Immo decoder ... i will leave that for 4 hours and lets see what will happen :D
Decoding process is fully automated. On SIEMENS FENIX5 select Standard type of operation (green LED off). Other systems may require
Advanced1 or Advanced2 mode (especially engine control systems, where
ignition-on signal to ECU is passed via fuel pump relay coil, e.g. SAFIR2).
Decoding in Standard mode takes about 1h 50min, in Advanced 1 ***8211; 4h, in
Advanced 2 ***8211; more than 5h. In most cases 1h 50min is enough to make
ECU not coded. Ignition is switched from off to on by decoding tool; red
LED indicates ignition on. After decoding, ignition is switched off and
green led is lit permanently.

fruti
6th September, 2013, 02:52 PM
Ok ... Advanced 1 mode .... now 4 hours waiting :(

Sagem SAFIR 2 IMMO off - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I1TYvsZNVU)

dell66
6th September, 2013, 04:09 PM
Hello, look this tutorial password in mp,
simply put on the photo I touch the red pine with a small screwdriver up and down.
connected computer on the car ignition is.
A +

tuberider
16th September, 2013, 04:06 PM
Hi, i have the same problem here . The car is far away and i need a working solution.
SAfir 2 with 55 pins
Chip: 27c512
I did the Renault - Tool - advanced for 4 hours
After i checked : light goes on and after 2 seconds goes off like before
I tried the tiny sweeper and connect the signal cable to pin 23 (and also tried pin 22) - pin 23 is ground directly (my opinion is this pin should
be lifted up to make the tiny sweeper working.
After several runs with the sweeper i conected the Renault Tool again - light is like before , goes on and after 2 seconds goes off

Does anyone know how i can be shure that the immo is off ?
THanks

dell66
17th September, 2013, 03:20 AM
WATCH MY TUTORIAL
I made ***8203;***8203;off real calculator on the car, touch it,
One guy running the starter
I pine key simultaneously.
tested 100%

tuberider
17th September, 2013, 08:45 AM
Thanks Dell, but the car is about 800km away, will check your solution:-)

ivankurtev
17th September, 2013, 09:29 AM
Connect for Renault Tool
SAGEM SAFIR (55 pin)
Connect only three wires to decoder box: ground, immobilizer line and
switched +12V. Connect decoder***8217;s red wire to constant +12V. Information
about Ignition-ON is supplied to SAFIR via relay coil. Use any relay
(automotive or not) with 12V coil. Select Advanced1 decoding type.

2 -> Ground
18 -> Ground
1 -> +12V After Ignition (15)
through relay coil to pin 48 !!!!!-> +12V After Ignition (15)
TWINGO-43, CLIO-47 ->Fault lamp
37 ->Immobilizer line

after cut 37 pin

tuberider
17th September, 2013, 10:42 AM
Hi Ivan, i tried this with this pinout.
I`m using the Renault Tool for the Fenix 5 and it works perfect but this one is other story-
it does excactly the same after completing advanced 1 and standart mode - light goes on and after 2 seconds goes off like before.
Im not sure if immo is off or not ...

ivankurtev
17th September, 2013, 02:03 PM
POWER SUPPLY more 12.5
use only advanced 1
cut immo line
star the car

jcarlillos
17th September, 2013, 08:39 PM
Sagen Safir 2-55 pin
A tried and tested solution:
- Ground 2. 18.
- Positive 1.
- Feeding the UCE to 12V
- Put the Pin 22 to ground for 5 sec. and repeat 5 times.
- Cut pin 37.
- Off Realty.

Adek2005
17th September, 2013, 08:47 PM
Hi!!

I need help with solution immo off.
Ecu is Bosh 0 281 001 956, 2002year tdi

MSB101150

Inside 24c04
ROVER 400 2.0 TURBO DIESEL

HELP ME!

219907

kenrique
20th April, 2015, 03:23 PM
Hi please I need pass to open this file

amrif
17th October, 2019, 06:27 PM
have someone remember pass for this tutorial? THX

rafal
17th October, 2019, 08:14 PM
have someone remember pass for this tutorial? THX

ecu Sagem Safir2 55 pins
1 +12V
2,3,18 ground
37 immo - cut
43 check engine light
40 main relay
48 fuel pump relay


solder wire to leg 22 of 27c512

connect power supply about 9 V.
when power is added to ecu - pin 22 connect to ground - repeat 5 times

josef1708
27th October, 2020, 03:40 PM
you had 27c512 or 28c512? habe also Sagem Safir 2-55 pin and elm327 decoder and this one (https://www.amazon.de/-/en/gp/product/B083PQ6G34/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1).
can you tell me which variant i have to choose. On elm327 decoder i tried 2,3,18 Ground 1 positiv and 37 cut line. because i have 27c i tried with PIN 23 on eprom. but didnt work out

josef1708
27th October, 2020, 04:05 PM
removed comment

josef1708
29th October, 2020, 01:06 PM
ecu Sagem Safir2 55 pins
1 +12V
2,3,18 ground
37 immo - cut
43 check engine light
40 main relay
48 fuel pump relay


solder wire to leg 22 of 27c512

connect power supply about 9 V.
when power is added to ecu - pin 22 connect to ground - repeat 5 times


connect to ground for how long? 1s or longer?