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boothuk
13th May, 2009, 02:46 PM
Hey, i'm new here so this is my first thread. Anyway's, i'll share with you an extremely baffling mystery that is fairly unknown.

The Dyatlov Pass incident refers to an event that resulted in the deaths of nine ski hikers in the northern Ural mountains (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ural_mountains). The incident happened on the night of February 2nd, 1959 on the east shoulder of the mountain Kholat Syakhl (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kholat_Syakhl&action=edit&redlink=1) (Холат Сяхл) (a Mansi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansi_language) name, meaning Mountain of the Dead). The mountain pass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_pass) where the incident occurred has been named Dyatlov Pass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_Pass) (Перевал Дятлова) after the group's leader, Igor Dyatlov (Игорь Дятлов).
The mysterious circumstances and subsequent investigations of the hikers' deaths have inspired much speculation. Investigations of the deaths suggest that the hikers tore open their tent from within, departing barefoot in heavy snow; while the corpses show no signs of struggle, two victims had fractured skulls, two had broken ribs, and one was missing her tongue. According to sources, the victims' clothing contained high levels of radiation - though this was likely added at a later date, since no reference is made to it in contemporary documentation and only in later documents. Soviet investigators determined only that "a compelling unknown force" had caused the deaths, barring entry to the area for years thereafter. The causes of the accident remain unclear.

boothuk
13th May, 2009, 04:22 PM
Further reading:


Skeptic

The article itself is little use, the comments after are intriguing though.

The Dyatlov pass accident and the fatal “unknown compelling force” | Digital Bits Skeptic (http://www.dbskeptic.com/2008/03/08/the-dyatlov-pass-accident-and-the-fatal-unknown-compelling-force/)


St. Petersburg Times

The St. Petersburg Times - Feature - Mysterious Deaths of 9 Skiers Still Unresolved (http://www.sptimes.ru/index.php?action_id=2&story_id=25093)

on_the_jazz
15th May, 2009, 12:06 AM
Interesting stuff. I wonder if they meant the whole tongue or just that the top bit was bitten off and lost.

boothuk
15th May, 2009, 09:10 AM
Interesting stuff. I wonder if they meant the whole tongue or just that the top bit was bitten off and lost.
If you read down the Skeptic article, there's a guy there from Russia who has read a Russian article which divulges that the whole tongue was torn out, not bitten...

rhino
23rd May, 2009, 03:26 PM
Hey, i'm new here so this is my first thread. Anyway's, i'll share with you an extremely baffling mystery that is fairly unknown.

The Dyatlov Pass incident refers to an event that resulted in the deaths of nine ski hikers in the northern Ural mountains (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ural_mountains). The incident happened on the night of February 2nd, 1959 on the east shoulder of the mountain Kholat Syakhl (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kholat_Syakhl&action=edit&redlink=1) (Холат Сяхл) (a Mansi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansi_language) name, meaning Mountain of the Dead). The mountain pass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_pass) where the incident occurred has been named Dyatlov Pass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_Pass) (Перевал Дятлова) after the group's leader, Igor Dyatlov (Игорь Дятлов).
The mysterious circumstances and subsequent investigations of the hikers' deaths have inspired much speculation. Investigations of the deaths suggest that the hikers tore open their tent from within, departing barefoot in heavy snow; while the corpses show no signs of struggle, two victims had fractured skulls, two had broken ribs, and one was missing her tongue. According to sources, the victims' clothing contained high levels of radiation - though this was likely added at a later date, since no reference is made to it in contemporary documentation and only in later documents. Soviet investigators determined only that "a compelling unknown force" had caused the deaths, barring entry to the area for years thereafter. The causes of the accident remain unclear.

I wonder if this area is still out of bounds or anyone's been up there to investigate possible reason. Still very Spooky......

Rhino

ekto
23rd May, 2009, 09:16 PM
i know this story well

ill give you the obvious and logical answer to everything you brought up!

there's six things that freak people out about this one:

1. The no-tongued woman

2. A mysterious orange tan on the dead bodies

3. The ripped tents

4. The hikers' lack of clothing

5. The crushing damage done to three of the hikers

6. The traces of radioactivity

The big fact that gets lost in the re-telling of this story is that the bodies weren't found until weeks later. It's not like somebody turned their back, then five minutes later all their friends were dead and half naked.

That makes the missing tongue a lot easier to explain. As disturbing as it may be, the first thing a scavenging animal is going to go for is probably the soft tissue of an open mouth, especially if it still smelled like the doritos the hiker had recently ate.

Laying out in the sun surrounded by white snow for days also accounts for the weird tan.

The trauma and the destroyed tent points to an avalanche. Their state of undress can be explained by paradoxical undressing, a known behavior of hypothermia victims when their brains start to freeze and malfunction. In other words, it's the kind of behavior you'd expect from a group of injured avalanche victims wandering around bumping into each other in the middle of the night in the freezing cold.

What about the radioactivity? Or stranger details that turn up in some accounts, like orange lights in the sky? Well, there's the fact that none of that stuff turns up in the original documents from the incident, and appears to have been added later by people who just can't resist making things spookier than they are.


thanks for reading

commando369
25th May, 2009, 09:18 PM
wow, i wish summit would happen to me!

on_the_jazz
25th May, 2009, 11:48 PM
The big fact that gets lost in the re-telling of this story is that the bodies weren't found until weeks later. It's not like somebody turned their back, then five minutes later all their friends were dead and half naked.

That makes the missing tongue a lot easier to explain. As disturbing as it may be, the first thing a scavenging animal is going to go for is probably the soft tissue of an open mouth, especially if it still smelled like the doritos the hiker had recently ate.

Laying out in the sun surrounded by white snow for days also accounts for the weird tan.

The trauma and the destroyed tent points to an avalanche. Their state of undress can be explained by paradoxical undressing, a known behavior of hypothermia victims when their brains start to freeze and malfunction. In other words, it's the kind of behavior you'd expect from a group of injured avalanche victims wandering around bumping into each other in the middle of the night in the freezing cold.

What about the radioactivity? Or stranger details that turn up in some accounts, like orange lights in the sky? Well, there's the fact that none of that stuff turns up in the original documents from the incident, and appears to have been added later by people who just can't resist making things spookier than they are.


thanks for reading

Why did the animals only eat her tongue? Why not her lips or face? The tongue goes back into the throat so why didn't the animals eat out her entire throat? Also there were no wounds, so no animal scratches or marks.
The first 2 bodies were actually found 6 days later, not weeks.
Why would they ALL leave their tents only semi dressed and without shoes?
The guy with the crushed skull had no wounds.
Even if hypothermia victims undress why would some undress and the others put on their clothes?