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Snoogle
31st October, 2013, 03:13 PM
Hi,

i'm searching for maps but it's very difficult (more than Bosch !)

Can anyone help me ? I'm a newbie in Siemens.

I want to EGR off and increase a little bit the power

Peugeot Expert HDI 120, 5WS40613B-T
Cks 5806
Chip 29F160
HW 96 61 64 21 80
SW 96 78 91 32 80

227441

Thank you.

rj22
31st October, 2013, 10:15 PM
search in MPC

Snoogle
31st October, 2013, 10:24 PM
search in MPC


Excuse me, but, can you tel me what "MPC" is ? Or where i can find it ?

I've extract the file with Galetto 2 and there's no MPC file

I'v got PPD Maps which can detect maps in PPD, SID206 & SID803A but it works with BDM files.

Can I convert bin to bdm ? How ?

ominimicu
1st November, 2013, 12:31 AM
by MPC he means Microprocessor, but that is valid ofr SID 803 not 803A, all info is in flash

Snoogle
3rd November, 2013, 04:03 PM
So, can anyone help me ?

atomiczen
3rd November, 2013, 05:44 PM
in this ecu maps are into the micro, not into the flash
read micro with a BDM

Babos
3rd November, 2013, 06:16 PM
lot galletto2 customers read and write this ecu via OBD!!!

atomiczen
3rd November, 2013, 06:23 PM
lot galletto2 customers read and write this ecu via OBD!!!
could be, but galletto2 ori and clone are the best flasher you can use for fuc* an ecu!

Snoogle
3rd November, 2013, 09:49 PM
could be, but galletto2 ori and clone are the best flasher you can use for fuc* an ecu!

I've read by obd, no problem...as Seat Leon, Seat Leon II PD and CR, Ford Focus, Kia Pro Cee'd ...a lot of vehicules.

Please, I need help to understand Siemens, not for choosing interface. I don't want to open the ECU.

In Winols, I can see lot of maps but the statistical map recognition is too bad for Siemens.

Thank's in advance for your help.

veloseeped
4th November, 2013, 09:17 AM
Please, I need help to understand Siemens, not for choosing interface. I don't want to open the ECU.

In Winols, I can see lot of maps but the statistical map recognition is too bad for Siemens.



You can't do this job fully using only map area dump which can be extracted in OBD mode.
Map axis descriptors are located outside this area.
You need full BDM dump to solve your task.

oem
4th November, 2013, 10:07 AM
All maps and axis are in this dump :) Only people which work on this ecu can be understand this :)

In this dump you have all maps needed for tune and closing egr.

veloseeped
4th November, 2013, 11:07 AM
All maps and axis are in this dump :) Only people which work on this ecu can be understand this :)

In this dump you have all maps needed for tune and closing egr.

Yes, all maps and axis are present in dump.
But the question was about "how to search and find" :joyous:

oem
4th November, 2013, 12:11 PM
Search in 2d. 16bit HiLow decimal :)

rpm factor = 1.000
quantity factor = 0.004
torque factor = 0.03982 (not 100% sure), offset -1024

P.S. I can make good tuning for this car if you can't.

overs0ull
11th November, 2013, 10:26 AM
Yes in this file for a few minutes what i see all info i here , i still learning this kind of ecus but the maps which you need are there - i will find and post for you factor and offset for the maps witch i know .
I still can't find the axis and i try to learn it , but i when you don't have damos or some info is pretty hard , but little later i will post for you the info what i have for this ecu .
If someone can help with axis location will be great .
regards

Snoogle
11th November, 2013, 02:57 PM
Thank you my friend

overs0ull
11th November, 2013, 05:13 PM
Hi again .
That is what i have for the maps till now .
hpa = factor 0.082918
kg/h = factor 0.015625
?C = factor 1 offset -50
ms = factor 0.001
mg/stroke = factor 0.004 offset -131.072
nm = factor 0.031250
rpm = factor 32 or factor 1 (depending where it's used)
volt = factor 0.004883
Lambda = factor 0.19
Degrees = factor -0.023438 (for SOI offset = 120)

i found only this factors and offsets - and that is good starting .
But the problem is cause i can't find map "AXIS" - if someone can give a hint will be perfect - this ecu is difficult and a little help will be very nice .
Thanks

veloseeped
11th November, 2013, 07:42 PM
I still can't find the axis and i try to learn it , but i when you don't have damos or some info is pretty hard , but little later i will post for you the info what i have for this ecu .
If someone can help with axis location will be great .


Do you seen what i posted above?
To find axises location corresponding to some map you must have full dump not only maps/axis area.
Map descriptors structure is located outside maps area and looks like (axis1 addr, axis2 addr, map addr) (addrs for next map) .... etc

overs0ull
11th November, 2013, 09:21 PM
Why do you thing i don't have a few full bdm reads , on few sid803/803A and 206 on all of them i try to find axis not only in this file we speak for sid 803 /803A like all i have the same file but bdm read - full (mpc/flash/eeprom/) the map area is in the mpc but i ask for axis where to find them, are in the same file (mpc) (full read) - i look at the end of the file outside of the map area but can't find them .
It's really hard for that i ask for hint i try to search like in bosh ecu - example - X axis 00010-that mean 1 row - 10 values but not luck .....
i find 00003 00001 0004 000063 like this but after that not row with values ....
For that i ask cause only that i try find from a long time but can't .
Regards

pinotec
11th November, 2013, 11:19 PM
popular maps on this file is:

053558 and 053668 limiter boost
0517F8 x6 boost maps
06A7CA and 069F24 limiter nm
067BFA and 067F36 t. inj
05C140 smoke limiter
07A90A limiter iq vs temp
070F6A x 8 pressure rail
0721CA limiter rail
04BA24 x7 torque limiter single gear

NASTASE
12th November, 2013, 06:19 AM
Maybe this free software can help a lot of members ,soported ECU's are PPD, SID 206,SID 803A, but need full BDM read.
Enjoy,

PPD Maps - ECU Map Detection Software (http://jazdw.net/ppd-maps/)

overs0ull
12th November, 2013, 01:01 PM
Hi again dudes . You post the some maps before me - nice to see other people want to help - thanks .
Second - i have this software PPD maps - and is really nice - thank you for the idea .
But my problem (and no only main ) - is after all night read and looking - i found the axis area whit all axis - but now come the other problem - how to connect (understand) witch - axis belong to the write map - i found X axis and Y axis on some maps with winols helping but can't make the connection between the axis location and map belong to it - any help will be very helpful .
Thank on all of you for helping .

veloseeped
12th November, 2013, 02:26 PM
but now come the other problem - how to connect (understand) witch - axis belong to the write map - i found X axis and Y axis on some maps with winols helping but can't make the connection between the axis location and map belong to it - any help will be very helpful .


Third times again and last one...
Search for map descriptor structure - it describe what you want to optain.

Snoogle
17th November, 2013, 04:34 PM
Hi again, thank's a lot for your work.
I've found some axis :
43716 : RPM (Hi-Lo) : 16 vals
4377E : RPM : 16 vals
4351E : RPM : 16 vals
43060 : Wish in % : 16 vals

Others :
77210, 77184 : 7 vals
77124 : 10 vals

Anyone can help me further ?

xxxmaniak
17th November, 2013, 05:42 PM
can help send me file

diyre
11th February, 2014, 08:28 AM
Hi, I was reading the thread on this map which is attached a SID803A, I found it all. Turbo, injection, egr ....
I found several maps that appear to be the clutch, but I'm not entirely sure, since its shape is similar but has a slightly strange curves.
Anyone have any driver file for ecm or some damo for WinOLS, or just know where this pair maps?
thank you very much
a greeting245024

likenoother
1st July, 2016, 12:57 PM
Third times again and last one...
Search for map descriptor structure - it describe what you want to optain.

Hi veloseeped

How can we find map descriptor structure in map (where is descriptor addresses)?
Do you have specific instructions to find it?


Thanks in advance

chacarita
1st July, 2016, 08:52 PM
try this i use this to my car use connect windows in winols to search diferences