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autodigitec
11th November, 2013, 11:22 AM
Car: BMW F10 520d
ECU Ref: 0281017648 DDE 8513250-01

I tried to read with galletto 2, but it's saying that he cant get trough the protection.

What tool can you recommend that does this with 100% success ?

Thanks in advance.

ominimicu
11th November, 2013, 01:28 PM
it s edc16 if OBD wont do, BDM will work for sure, so use your galletto 2 via bdm

mislav88
11th November, 2013, 02:00 PM
it is EDC17C41 not EDC16

ominimicu
11th November, 2013, 02:09 PM
ohh could be...then its boot mode :D

filecloud
11th November, 2013, 02:35 PM
NO tool can do BMW Fxx MED17/EDC17 at the moment!

bondiblu
11th November, 2013, 06:43 PM
NO tool can do BMW Fxx MED17/EDC17 at the moment!

That's what I thought

oem
11th November, 2013, 07:57 PM
Galletto V54 can do!

filecloud
11th November, 2013, 08:40 PM
Galletto V54 can do!
Good joke!

mbtun
12th November, 2013, 12:45 AM
what the hell is going here?
one is saying it is edc16
another is saying v54 can do it
Are you serious guys?
It's an F10 - NO TOOL can do it for now

kfprint
12th November, 2013, 01:31 AM
true

the password is encrypted with rsa on Fxx, no tool can boot the MPC without the pw.
so the best tool to use on this car would be a pickaxe or chainsaw :)

tomtom0785
14th November, 2013, 05:54 PM
reading/writing These ECU's is not the Problem - Problem is RSA Calculation when make mods ;) and against some Posts here, i can say that some F-Models are working but F10/F11 are not!!

autodigitec
14th November, 2013, 07:20 PM
I guess it is confirmed that at this moment it's impossible to mod this ecu.

What about just reading/writing? ktag, galleto, trasdata? any of these would work?

LaraVAG
14th November, 2013, 09:20 PM
I check there is posibility, prabobly CMD

tomtom0785
16th November, 2013, 11:17 AM
i think there is possibility to read, but noone of the tool procducers will release protocol till they cannot calculate correct checksum,.... :-) - this is common with lots of ECU's - reading writing original files is often the smalles challenge, but getting ECU's to accept modified data is the real challenge ;-)

LaraVAG
16th November, 2013, 02:38 PM
From CMD:
Bosch EDC17CP45 BMW BOOT-MODE with new Boot tuning protection
Bosch EDC17C41 BMW BOOT-MODE with new Boot tuning protection

tomtom0785
16th November, 2013, 04:41 PM
Cp41, cp45 is about 2 years ago i think,...
The new tprot has been tprot 8-10!!!
In the meantime mostly all tools can handle tprot 8-10 BMW

16eddi67
16th November, 2013, 08:54 PM
I read the other day F 25 September 2013 witch Ecu Explorer boot pin

tomtom0785
17th November, 2013, 08:25 AM
Can you tell me what exactly is ecu explorer?? But i suppose it is only reading supported? Right??

16eddi67
17th November, 2013, 05:00 PM
Hi,read and recorded.IF you have any questions ask PM

kisslorand
18th November, 2013, 09:15 AM
Recorded??? What did you record?

raimi.s
19th November, 2013, 01:12 AM
BMW-Explorer ? ECU-Explorer (http://www.bmw-explorer.ru/?page_id=898&lang=en)

tomtom0785
19th November, 2013, 09:58 AM
i see only Petrol engine for F-Series,.... Petrol ECU is not the Problem - diesel ECU is the challenge ;-)

bbturbo
24th November, 2013, 03:15 AM
Hi Tomtom0785, does this mean the petrol F10 can be flashed? even the new M5?

raimi.s
28th November, 2013, 12:13 AM
I try today on x5 2012 3.0 d with galletto v53 same situation can't get through the protection but fvdi read successful without any problems.

So i suppose can work and on f series bmw

bbturbo
28th November, 2013, 01:46 AM
Hello Raimi.s, as I understand from your post, the f10 (petrol) can be R/W. Thanks.
Incidentally what is fvdi?

raimi.s
28th November, 2013, 11:50 AM
Hello Raimi.s, as I understand from your post, the f10 (petrol) can be R/W. Thanks.
Incidentally what is fvdi?

why just petrol when I tried it on diesel " FVDI BMW IS CLONE OF ABRITUS "

tomtom0785
28th November, 2013, 03:12 PM
@raimi.s
which ECU is installed in the car??

Did you read by OBD?? have you tried to write modified file??
reading/writing orginal files form Flash Database has never been Problem for AVDI ;)

can you maybe share the files which you have read with Avdi??

raimi.s
9th December, 2013, 10:23 PM
Ecu i read true obd but no luck with mod file to write back , security access denied , same situation with winkfp .

234155

tomtom0785
10th December, 2013, 10:22 AM
ok - but for me the uploaded file Looks incomplete - maybe it is just a part of the program code,.... (also file size 456kb is strange )
i don't know what you have modified - i cannot see reliable maps for Tuning,.....