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michelle8
19th December, 2013, 11:10 AM
whats the law on this if its streamed also is it ok to show 3pm games on the other sats like thor and hotbird without a proper sky subscription thanks for any replys

ramjet
19th December, 2013, 12:20 PM
its got nothing to do with sly

the FA licenses the broadcasts for certain regions only and they hold the copyright on certain aspects of the transmission , its all been done to death on the forums many times over so have a search for the laws and judgements on this

but in simple terms, its illegal to show a broadcast in a public place unless you have the copyright holders permission to do so (or his agents) , usually by a legal subscription

in any case showing saturday games between 1500 and 1715 is illegal anyway as it breaks the FA rules to do so, hence not even sly do it (like I said, nothing to do with sly)

the ban on showing the sat 3pm kickoffs in E+W is absolute and has been for 20 years, that overrides anything else

these "foreign" broadcasts often have banners with warnings telling you the region they are licensed for, I saw them on al jazeerah recently whilst watching a match

michelle8
19th December, 2013, 04:57 PM
its got nothing to do with sly

the FA licenses the broadcasts for certain regions only and they hold the copyright on certain aspects of the transmission , its all been done to death on the forums many times over so have a search for the laws and judgements on this

but in simple terms, its illegal to show a broadcast in a public place unless you have the copyright holders permission to do so (or his agents) , usually by a legal subscription

in any case showing saturday games between 1500 and 1715 is illegal anyway as it breaks the FA rules to do so, hence not even sly do it (like I said, nothing to do with sly)

the ban on showing the sat 3pm kickoffs in E+W is absolute and has been for 20 years, that overrides anything else

these "foreign" broadcasts often have banners with warnings telling you the region they are licensed for, I saw them on al jazeerah recently whilst watching a match

hello m8 can u pm so i can reply or email me thanks

flyingpig
20th December, 2013, 12:00 AM
Broadcasting in a public place anything that is copyright protected that you do not have the rights to broadcast is illegal

Just because it is a stream does not make it legal. You actually receiving the stream is not illegal, people watching it are not breaking the law, but the person or company "broadcasting" something that they do not have permission to is illegal.

Broadcasting being the operative word.

rigsby71
20th December, 2013, 01:13 PM
I think we need a definitive idea as to who the "broadcaster" is, as far as i am aware a tv set only receives a signal & doesnt broadcast one, only tv companies are the actual "broadcasters".

To be able to broadcast , you need a transmitter.

Broadcasting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcasting)

ASEK
20th December, 2013, 06:17 PM
yep a very wooly area hence the court cases I suppose?

flyingpig
23rd December, 2013, 10:18 PM
It's not woolly,,,, It is quite definitive. If you own the pub, and you put a TV in the room and allow the public on mass freedom to view something that you are not permitted to, you are broadcasting, or allowing broadcasting on your premises of material that you do not have the right to either broadcast or to be allowed to be broadcast. Regardless of whether that content is streamed or a live feed or satellite.

You are not allowed to have the radio on in a pub, office or workplace unless you have the correct license which permits you to have he copyrighted material played (see PRS).

Meat-Head
11th January, 2014, 01:32 PM
If you own the pub, and you put a TV in the room and allow the public on mass freedom to view something that you are not permitted to, you are broadcasting, or allowing broadcasting on your premises of material ).

So you own a pub with a massive window no curtains

Next door is your EX-wife who has a MASSIVE tv the size of GMB's head - she leaves in in her window sill on football, can the landlord be done?

ASEK
11th January, 2014, 03:38 PM
So you own a pub with a massive window no curtains

Next door is your EX-wife who has a MASSIVE tv the size of GMB's head - she leaves in in her window sill on football, can the landlord be done?

love it lol