Condor XC007 Who's got one?

[dustin2014]

I'll upload them in a few minutes

[dustin2014]

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=3242

[dustin2014]

please show a bigger picture.

also a few people have said he same issue as me, it is in the correct position - if you rotate the other way it would cut the other side too much also.

The only difference could be the cutter - I do not see anywhere where you sell the cutter made for the condor - please post a decent picture of the cutter and where to buy the same cutter as you

Do you mean the proper 1.5mm & 2.5 mm cutters?

[paul_12345]

Do you mean the proper 1.5mm & 2.5 mm cutters?

you can not use 1.5mm as they haven't programmed it to do 2 passes to cut the correct 2.2mm width.

2.5 is just too big even if it works I dont want some ugly key.

I think they said it works ok with 2mm but I want a picture of the key cut with the condor and details of the cutter that cut it so I can test it.

[Galee]

Dustin2014 thanks just what was needed most appreciated.[emoji1]


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[dustin2014]

Gotcha mate.

[Samic]

Where is the option to cut the tibbie keys? I have version 2.2.8 and can't see it under ford/jag I have the x3 clamp also.

the latest version is V1.4.3 include（2.2.9&2.3.0beta7),you can update to the 2.3.0beta7.

[Samic]

please show a bigger picture.

also a few people have said he same issue as me, it is in the correct position - if you rotate the other way it would cut the other side too much also.

The only difference could be the cutter - I do not see anywhere where you sell the cutter made for the condor - please post a decent picture of the cutter and where to buy the same cutter as you

2.0-2.5mm cutter is ok of this key,1.5mm connot for this key
the 2.1mm cutter is best ,but we always use the 2.0mm cutter.
this is the photo
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=311383&stc=1

[Samic]

please show a bigger picture.

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=311385&stc=1

[cqae]

Can someone please upload the update tool and drivers I have downloaded the updated tool in post 53 when I open it it say this application has failed to start because FTD2XX.dll was not found reinstalling the application may fix this problem. Also when I connect to the computer it wants drivers for the key machine.
Thanks
Galee

Im not trying to be smart, but do you realize the Condor doesnt decode the Tibbe keys? you just enter the bittings and it cuts it?

[Galee]

Yes I understand that thanks I did not have the option to cut tibbie keys on my firmware version now I upgraded the option is there and all is good.
Cheers

[paul_12345]

Can you do a picture from the side so we can see the cuts properly? Thanks

[Samic]

Can you do a picture from the side so we can see the cuts properly? Thanks

this is the condor XC-007 cutting key
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=311447&stc=1http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=311448&stc=1

[paul_12345]

this is the condor XC-007 cutting key


exactly its cuts too deep. it should not be cutting into the part I've highlighted

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=311482&stc=1

if you set the cut height 0.05mm higher it will probably not cut into it

whether you can cut all cuts 0.05mm higher
or just number 4 cuts 0.05mm higher

or just cuts on the right hand side as the cuts on the right side cut slightly deeper due to the way the machine moves (putting pressure very slightly rotating the key into the cut as it moves whereas the left sides direction of cut rotates the key so it cuts less) if that makes sense.


probably the most simple and effective solution would be to enable the height adjustment setting (which is ignored for x3 clamp) or better still have 2 height adjustments for left cuts and right cuts, allowing the user to tweak the settings to best suite them.

[Samic]

exactly its cuts too deep. it should not be cutting into the part I've highlighted
probably the most simple and effective solution would be to enable the height adjustment setting (which is ignored for x3 clamp) or better still have 2 height adjustments for left cuts and right cuts, allowing the user to tweak the settings to best suite them.[/QUOTE]

thanks for your good idea，we will enter “cutting depth”for FO21 in the next version，then send to user.

[cqae]

please listen to Paul!.......

[Samic]

please listen to Paul!.......


yeah,we will add the height adjustment setting for X3 clamp in a short time first.

[autoTkey]

What happened to update 2.3.1 ? I saw it yesterday in the update tool but now it's gone....
There was no info what it changes so I decided not to do it.

[wd bau]

mr Samic (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/440975-Samic)

this issue is not rective until now ,pls tell us when Hyundai ACCENT 2011+ will be add????




Condor engineers and dk contributors ...pls inform the company that it cannot cut these two types of keys

http://store.hklock.com/hh11341008.html

http (http://store.hklock.com/hh11048001.html) (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/440975-Samic)://store.hklock.com/hh11048001.html (http://store.hklock.com/hh11048001.html)

[Samic]

What happened to update 2.3.1 ? I saw it yesterday in the update tool but now it's gone....
There was no info what it changes so I decided not to do it.

2.3.1 is our test version(only upload to the server yesterday),still unrelease.you can still choose 2.3.0beta7,
after all is ok we will update the new software.

[Samic]

mr Samic (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/440975-Samic)

this issue is not rective until now ,pls tell us when Hyundai ACCENT 2011+ will be add????

mate,the next version add another type of HY18 （HY18-R）,after the 2.3.1 is ok codor can do it.
about TOY2,you can use the TOY40 key blank,but ensure the thickness of your key blank is 3mm,
if not,you can add to 3mm.

[Samic]

The next version will:
Fix HU83-EXT,DAT17, VA2,HU64,
add HY18-R, new key of corlla 2015
if you find other problem tell me please.after new update software ok,i will upload here.

[paul_12345]

The next version will:
Fix HU83-EXT,DAT17, VA2,HU64,
add HY18-R, new key of corlla 2015
if you find other problem tell me please.after new update software ok,i will upload here.

x3 height adjustment :stung:

[Samic]

x3 height adjustment :stung:

yeah,still include X3 clamp height adjustment setting,so kind of you,paul:)

[Samic]

the next version will fix GM37，and we will optimize the clamp for the SX9 blank key.

[54321]

When is the next version coming?

[Samic]

When is the next version coming?

my friend,the new version came out already.ensure evertthing is ok,still testing.
we will upload to server in a short time.

[Galee]

Where to buy 2.0 cutter I have found 1.5 2.5 3.0 and the probe can't see anyone selling the 2.0 or 2.1 cutter for ford keys?


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[paul_12345]

Where to buy 2.0 cutter I have found 1.5 2.5 3.0 and the probe can't see anyone selling the 2.0 or 2.1 cutter for ford keys?


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2.2mm is the correct size for ford, you can buy 2.2mm on aliexpress or elsewhere.

[Galee]

Is this condor , ikeycutter , lishi only cutter or are they shared with another machine also?

[paul_12345]

Is this condor , ikeycutter , lishi only cutter or are they shared with another machine also?

just get a 2.2mm with a 6mm shank.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/locksmith-tools-part-key-cutters-2-2mm-cutter-and-2-2mm-guide-pin/797413566.html

[Galee]

Thanks Paul will do.
Cheers.

[Samic]

This is the specification photo of Condor cutter
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=313415&stc=1

[Samic]

The next version will increase the movement speed nearly 50%.

[Samic]

next version still will fix TOY40(4-4),still in testing.

[dustin2014]

Cheers Samic, What about VW LT35 and Renault Card emergency keys?

[Samic]

Cheers Samic, What about VW LT35 and Renault Card emergency keys?


i will check them first,because add keys need specific parameters of the key,then test.after all is ok,can add it into database.

[H.Wessel]

i will check them first,because add keys need specific parameters of the key,then test.after all is ok,can add it into database.

Hi friend, what about a update for X6 key cutting machine?? I know is not from you company but I don't mind to pay for the update and many people that only makes 3-5/month will be happy to have a cheap option... My two cents

[Samic]

Hi friend, what about a update for X6 key cutting machine?? I know is not from you company but I don't mind to pay for the update and many people that only makes 3-5/month will be happy to have a cheap option... My two cents

sorry mate,we can only ensure the update of Condor products.if you have any problem about Condor XC-007 tell me please,i will help you to solve it.

[Samic]

Cheers Samic, What about VW LT35 and Renault Card emergency keys?


About VW LT35 you can try"YM35". steps: enter"Cut by code"→enter"YM15"→enter bitting/key learn→cutting key
the renault card emergency key,send the photo PM me.

[dustin2014]

About VW LT35 you can try"YM35". steps: enter"Cut by code"→enter"YM15"→enter bitting/key learn→cutting key
the renault card emergency key,send the photo PM me.
Thanks Samic, I'll try that.
I'll PM you a pic of Renault card emergency key-I think the problem with them is that the Chinese blades are of a different thickness to to Original blade causing the probe to snap.Some have had success using a homemade shim to compensate for the difference, but I was wondering could the update include an adaption for this.

[Samic]

Thanks Samic, I'll try that.
I'll PM you a pic of Renault card emergency key-I think the problem with them is that the Chinese blades are of a different thickness to to Original blade causing the probe to snap.Some have had success using a homemade shim to compensate for the difference, but I was wondering could the update include an adaption for this.

YM15,not YM35.about the Renault card emergency key i will check again.

[armpower]

Hallo Samic

I've an emergency.I need to cut a Kia Venga Key.
The blade is HU134FH.
Can you upload to server a version of Condor software so i can cut this blade?
Maybe i can test your software and see if it will work. :)
Please help me, next week i have to do cut this key (i've the code for cutting the key).
Many thanks in advance

Cheers

[Samic]

Hallo Samic

I've an emergency.I need to cut a Kia Venga Key.
The blade is HU134FH.
Can you upload to server a version of Condor software so i can cut this blade?
Maybe i can test your software and see if it will work. :)
Please help me, next week i have to do cut this key (i've the code for cutting the key).
Many thanks in advance

Cheers

sorry mate,i have checked HU134FH,we haven't the specific parameters of this key currently,need more time to add this key.

[armpower]

Ok.
It's important type of key to add, because new Kia Venga have this type of key profile.
Latest kia and Hyundai have a high degree of failure of remotes (broken key case) so Kiah Hyundai replace them under warranty
but the key blade need to cut because arrive to dealer uncutted.
In february i have contacted the Condor support about this key and the guy told me to wait some weeks.
Thank you

[Samic]

Ok.
It's important type of key to add, because new Kia Venga have this type of key profile.
Latest kia and Hyundai have a high degree of failure of remotes (broken key case) so Kiah Hyundai replace them under warranty
but the key blade need to cut because arrive to dealer uncutted.
In february i have contacted the Condor support about this key and the guy told me to wait some weeks.
Thank you

i have checked again,but only "HU134MH",not"HU134FH".i'm not sure maybe they are the same one.
we will add "HU134MH"into the database frist,then you can test.if ok,i will tell you.

[armpower]

Thanks Samic

Add the HU134MH onto the database.
The HU134FH is the same key.This blade is for flip remotes.
Please add the HU134MH blade and made a beta test version, so tomorrow i can try to cut a key from code.
Please upload a beta test version to the server,

Many thanks

[dustin2014]

YM15,not YM35.about the Renault card emergency key i will check again.
Thanks Samic, Tried this. Key decodes and cuts OK.

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=316160&stc=1

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=316159&stc=1
Attached photos of Renault emergency blade.

[Samic]

Thanks Samic, Tried this. Key decodes and cuts OK.
Attached photos of Renault emergency blade.


about Renault Card emergency keys you can try"VA2EH2",but there are some problem about VA2EH2 now【next version will fix it】
if you need cutting key,do this steps：（cutting one side,back to main interface then cutting opposite side）
enter"Cut by code"→enter"VA2EH2"→enter bitting/key learn→Cutting key【only cutting one side】→return main interface→"Cut by code"→enter"VA2EH2"→enter bitting→Cutting key【cutting opposite side】

[dustin2014]

OK.Cheers mate. I think I'll wait for the next version.Any idea when it will be ready?

[54321]

OK.Cheers mate. I think I'll wait for the next version.Any idea when it will be ready?
The million dollar question............

[Samic]

Condor XC-007 2.3.1 Beta1 release：
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=319900&stc=1

The first time to update please click on this Link【driver file & update software】：https://mega.co.nz/#!zg5jWAQL!s6ORTQ...13622ZaTriP7tA (https://mega.co.nz/#!zg5jWAQL!s6ORTQ5G3u36lHn8znOOzoXUD_G2h13622ZaTri P7tA)
Install the driver file first,then update.
User can update 2.3.1,if you find bugs/not work well please PM me.

[dustin2014]

Condor XC-007 2.3.1 Beta1 release：
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=319900&stc=1

The first time to update please click on this Link【driver file & update software】：https://mega.co.nz/#!zg5jWAQL!s6ORTQ...13622ZaTriP7tA (https://mega.co.nz/#!zg5jWAQL!s6ORTQ5G3u36lHn8znOOzoXUD_G2h13622ZaTri P7tA)
Install the driver file first,then update.
User can update 2.3.1,if you find bugs/not work well please PM me.
Thanks for this Samic. I've added a permanent link in the downloads section as well:
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=3311

[dmp]

zd30 doesn't work for me in the update

[Samic]

zd30 doesn't work for me in the update

please send your skype PM me/add my skype,i wanna know this problem in detail,then can help you.

[cqae]

any news on when a complete and not beta version will be ready?

[Samic]

any news on when a complete and not beta version will be ready?


mate,the 2.3.1beta1 fix bugs from 2.3.0.if you find bugs/not work well about 2.3.1 tell me please.after solve the feedback problem the complete version will come.

[keyantic]

hi
2.3.1 beta ok
but
Not added
(Add X3 clamp cutting depth setting)

[autoTkey]

Having problems finalizing the update - it always returns "Update failed".

[insomnia2009]

me also stops half way

[Samic]

hi
2.3.1 beta ok but Not added(Add X3 clamp cutting depth setting)

I have checked,there are two buttons for"cutting depth+"&"cutting depth-",Could you tell me your operating steps?

[keyantic]

Try againhttp://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=320222&stc=1http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=320223&stc=1http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=320225&stc=1http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=320226&stc=1

[autoTkey]

Yeyyyyy did it! And just cut a VA2EH successfully on a Peugeot 407! Also seems like the colors are brighter or the brightness is stronger which is good. And very much like the speed - it sound's like it's thirsty for metal LOL

[Samic]

me also stops half way

ensure the driver file install success & machine connect to PC【keep machine turn on】,click on "update online",wait until update success.
friend,you can try again,if still fail please PM me i will help you via"teamview".

[autoTkey]

Samic how about this key - DAC-4DC1 http://www.sks.co.uk/content/SKS/images/groups/DAC-4DC1_L.jpg
Can you import it to the database? It's used in the newest Dacia/Renault cars like Logan, Twizy ...

[Samic]

Samic how about this key - DAC-4DC1 http://www.sks.co.uk/content/SKS/images/groups/DAC-4DC1_L.jpg
Can you import it to the database? It's used in the newest Dacia/Renault cars like Logan, Twizy ...

I am not sure about specification of this DAC-4DC1, Could you tell me more information about this key?

[autoTkey]

Info from JMA catalog:
320377

Info from Silca catalog:
320378

Info from Errebi:
320402

Dokker and Lodgy after 2012 uses this key, also the electric Twizy and Logan/Sandero after 2010. These are very popular cars here in the EU.

320395
320403

[dustin2014]

Updated software to latest version today. Cut VA2EH no problem at rapid speed.
I had difficulty with the update. If failed a number of times but I kept trying and finally updated successfully.

[autoTkey]

What are the changes in Beta 2?

[Samic]

What are the changes in Beta 2?
fix the ZD30 "key learn"problem.

[Cromwe11]

Updated software to latest version today. Cut VA2EH no problem at rapid speed.
I had difficulty with the update. If failed a number of times but I kept trying and finally updated successfully.

Just cutting or did you try decoding as well?

[autoTkey]

Decoding has never been the issue. Problem was cutting. Now it does both fine.

[wd bau]

Mr Samic
Did you TRY the machine after update????? because for Hyundai accent 2012 + still same problem .wrong decode ,wrong cutt ,please see attach picshttp://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=320929&stc=1 this the profile which condor CAN NOT DECODE .and CAN NOT CUTT

[rm23]

Hi

I have found problem with decoding the key MIT11R in mitsubishi lancer 2010, cut is ok, all info about it i have sent to Samic through skype so please make sure and check when doing this type of key till they fix it !! ;)

[diagprog7]

Samic was banned now,he will still post here to help others after come back or user can contact him directly via skype.

[estate]

Why was he banned?

[clusters]

Why was he banned?
I would have to guess because he was trying to market his products here, contrary to ethos of the site.

[diagprog7]

You can check all Samic's comments,

maybe wait 6day,him can back!

[paul_12345]

A tip for samic if they get unbanned only reply / answer peoples questions or post info / pictures what people have asked for - Do not bump threads with pictures / information that no one has asked for else mods will ban you do to the no selling promoting policy.

[diagprog7]

Mr Samic
Did you TRY the machine after update????? because for Hyundai accent 2012 + still same problem .wrong decode ,wrong cutt ,please see attach pics this the profile which condor CAN NOT DECODE .and CAN NOT CUTT

Samic replied me about Hyundai accent 2012+ problem on skype:friend,you can update2.3.1beta2,beta2 fix HY18 & HY18R.if still not work well,tell me please.

[dustin2014]

Snapped probe on VA2EH2 today.

[paul_12345]

Snapped probe on VA2EH2 today.

if you had read the thread you would know about this - Although I dont know why Conder do not put checks in place to detect if the probe or cutter will hit the clamp at all... Not hard to do at all!!!

[Samic]

Snapped probe on VA2EH2 today.

The probe works through conductive,about the machine keeps breaking probe maybe conductivity is not good.
I will check the parameters & sensor detect of you machine first.

[paul_12345]

good to see you back samic.. I would test the new update but I've spent 2 days trying to update because of your buggy program or server!! Its s good job I have another machine else I would be left without a machine.

Why dont you just download the firmware fully before trying to update???

[Samic]

good to see you back samic.. I would test the new update but I've spent 2 days trying to update because of your buggy program or server!! Its s good job I have another machine else I would be left without a machine.

Why dont you just download the firmware fully before trying to update???

friend,the 2.3.1version all online update file more than 10Mbyte,mostly your network caused the update problem【VVDI online update file no more than 1Mbyte,always ok】
you can send me about your update log file,i will check it.

[dustin2014]

I emailed you the parameters earlier Samic.

[MrSporty]

I think what paul_12345 is trying to say is that the current update program works in a very failure prone way.

Most other device updaters work like this :

Run update app - check server for update - download 100% of firmware update file - send 100% of firmware update to device - update DONE.

The way your current update works is this ...

Run update app - check server for update - download 10% of update file - send 10% of update to device - download NEXT 10% of update file - send NEXT 10% of update to device - .. ETC, ETC, .... .. .

You can see that at any point, if the connection to the server fails, the update fails. Why not change the updater app to download the ENTIRE firmware update first ?

[insomnia2009]

well i just spent another 2 hours trying to update my machine fails after 2 minutes the machine does say 2.3.1 but never passes half way on the update cut a key on a pajero and done it wrong few days now trying to get this update on still no success

[paul_12345]

well i just spent another 2 hours trying to update my machine fails after 2 minutes the machine does say 2.3.1 but never passes half way on the update cut a key on a pajero and done it wrong few days now trying to get this update on still no success

your lucky it takes about 50 attempts at least on mine to see any green progress bar 99.99% of the time the bios page only flickers!!

[insomnia2009]

Did you get it sorted paul

Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk

[dustin2014]

tried to update mine to 2.3.1version beta 2 but update failed. Tried to revert back to earlier version but that failed too. Wont communicate with server.
Tried on 2 different laptops from 2 different IP addresses so don't think the network fault is at my end.

[dustin2014]

if you had read the thread you would know about this - Although I dont know why Conder do not put checks in place to detect if the probe or cutter will hit the clamp at all... Not hard to do at all!!!
I did read it mate, but I though the update was supposed to fix it.

[Samic]

I think what paul_12345 is trying to say is that the current update program works in a very failure prone way.
Most other device updaters work like this :
Run update app - check server for update - download 100% of firmware update file - send 100% of firmware update to device - update DONE.
The way your current update works is this ...
Run update app - check server for update - download 10% of update file - send 10% of update to device - download NEXT 10% of update file - send NEXT 10% of update to device - .. ETC, ETC, .... .. .
You can see that at any point, if the connection to the server fails, the update fails. Why not change the updater app to download the ENTIRE firmware update first ?


thanks for all good advice,we will slove this update problem.we will think over the proposal about difference update ways.we also think about use “mirror server”
now we need the user update log file then to analysis frist,user can send log file【same in update app folder】 PM me/via skype.

[cqae]

Samic, good to see you back......but on the update, I havent updated mine yet because IM scared I'm going to get stuck without a machine because of the troubles everyone else is having. Here is abother chance to listen to your exsisting customers & sort this out, cos ias it stands I feel like I have a choice of sticking with the old version or taking a high risk with an unstable update

[paul_12345]

finally update done... seems the update program needs a very very stable internet connection then it should update within a couple of attempts (although the server is painfully slow)

tried the X3 clamp and its much better, now without any height adjustment it cuts number 4 near perfect.

So now if condor can implement a 2 pass cut on the tibbe like the Miracle A9 does (so it cuts 2.2mm like the spec says using a 1.5mm cutter to save changing cutters) then this would be a viable option to cut tibbe keys.

[cqae]

awesome to hear that paul, I was waiting to see how you went before I updated mine. Ive not been able to successfully cut a tibbe key yet so want to get this sorted.....

[Samic]

finally update done... seems the update program needs a very very stable internet connection then it should update within a couple of attempts (although the server is painfully slow)
tried the X3 clamp and its much better, now without any height adjustment it cuts number 4 near perfect.
So now if condor can implement a 2 pass cut on the tibbe like the Miracle A9 does (so it cuts 2.2mm like the spec says using a 1.5mm cutter to save changing cutters) then this would be a viable option to cut tibbe keys.

about the update problem such as：
your current version is 2.3.0,you wanna update to2.3.1
1.update fail,but your machine screen display the version 2.3.1【means only programmer update ok,but lost some data/picture】→
need to"Fix data error(picture lost,etc)",if fix ok means update ok.
2.update fail and the machine screen display still 2.3.0,→need to update again.
if update fail,user can send me the update log.
i will feedback this good idea【1.5mm cutter working twice for X3】 to our software engineer again,if ok i will post here.

[dustin2014]

Finally got mine fully updated to 2.31 beta 2.

You need a good network connection to succeed. If your update fails it helps to try again at different times of the day.

I'm very grateful to Samic for his patience and assistance as he spent a couple of hours helping me get it sorted yesterday.

[viw9419]

. . . . . .

[rm23]

I have spent few hours trying to update but finally is done ! be patient my friends ..

[viw9419]

. . . . . .

[Samic]

If this machine ever updates, it might be worth reading the chip(s) and posting the files here.


I've checked several users about update problem via "teamview"this few days,often the network can work mostly website well,but not the server.
the ping of connect the server more than 250ms,sometimes request time out.→【need to change a good network,usually can update success】
if many users update online at the same time maybe fail→【because of the server resource caused,user can change a time to update】

[viw9419]

. . . . . .

[insomnia2009]

also still trying and cant get it updated

[paul_12345]

what is both of yours doing??

I was using wifi but quite far away and whilst it works for http etc it failed badly on updating, after getting closer to the router it failed once at around 60% and then updated the next try and took a good 40-50 minutes.

I would try a different internet source - different network adaptor/computer.

I updated mine at around 21:00 if that makes any difference

[estate]

why such an issue? it's 2015 now remember........

[Samic]

You checked mine.
I was sat in the university reception "borrowing" their internet. It is a direct connection to the national high speed network, gigabit speeds and I was hard wired in.
There is no better internet available anywhere in the UK and it still didn't work, the server is definitely the issue.
Mid there any way to release the update file?

I've checked your log file & our admin system,your machine is"Genius LiShi English"version,but we only upload the "Normal English"to the server before.
if users machine is not normal english,cannot update success.【the other version upload to server OK now】
if user still cannot update,try again.if still fail let me know.

[viw9419]

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[54321]

I was trying to update my machine with it in the back of the van for a few days with no success. I brought it indoors and used my house internet and it updated after a few attempts. I think it needs a high speed and super reliable connection for it to work. Mobile broadband won't work.

I really hope they can sort out their server as i don't fancy bringing this in and out of the house everytime it needs updating, it weighs a ton!

[paul_12345]

I was trying to update my machine with it in the back of the van for a few days with no success. I brought it indoors and used my house internet and it updated after a few attempts. I think it needs a high speed and super reliable connection for it to work. Mobile broadband won't work.

I really hope they can sort out their server as i don't fancy bringing this in and out of the house everytime it needs updating, it weighs a ton!

if you have wifi in the house you can connect to that from your van provided you have a good signal, also you can not trust the internet status for signal quality as it will not detect if its losing the odd packet of data once in a while which is why the update is crashing as it would seem theres no error correction etc.

[viw9419]

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[insomnia2009]

also so succeeded but was cutting a hu66 tonight and its leaving a piece in the middle of the blade thats on 2.3.1 beta 2

[viw9419]

. . . . . .

[Samic]

also so succeeded but was cutting a hu66 tonight and its leaving a piece in the middle of the blade thats on 2.3.1 beta 2


mate,i wanna know the current cutter diameter of your machine,send me the photo of HU66 cutting key & cutting interface.

[whiskeyman]

so what keys this machine not doing right at present?

[insomnia2009]

since update i have 1 small problem leaves a little bit in the middle of hu66 but key cut is perfect scrap out the bit the middle and perfect all other keys so far 1 cut has been perfect hu101 hu72r toy 47 toy43 pajero sport so to be honest im on 2.3.1 and im happy i dont use it all day or everyday but im starting to get confident with this machine

[Samic]

since update i have 1 small problem leaves a little bit in the middle of hu66 but key cut is perfect scrap out the bit the middle and perfect all other keys so far 1 cut has been perfect hu101 hu72r toy 47 toy43 pajero sport so to be honest im on 2.3.1 and im happy i dont use it all day or everyday but im starting to get confident with this machine


friend,about the leaves a little bit problem maybe the unproper cutter caused,usually 1.5mm cutter for X1 clamp,2.5mm cutter for X2 clamp
if you choose the 1.5mm cutter for HU66,you can the leave bit show in the cutting image on your machine.

[54321]

I still have to cut hu66 2 or 3 times on each side to get the key to work, been like this since i bought the machine over a year ago. Calibrated many many times, new cutters, new tracers, different sized cutters. Always the same

[paul_12345]

friend,about the leaves a little bit problem maybe the unproper cutter caused,usually 1.5mm cutter for X1 clamp,2.5mm cutter for X2 clamp
if you choose the 1.5mm cutter for HU66,you can the leave bit show in the cutting image on your machine.

It should not make a difference which size cutter is used - that is just poor programming.

[insomnia2009]

here is an image on the screen i didnt have this is version 2.2.9 or 2.3.0

[paul_12345]

I still have to cut hu66 2 or 3 times on each side to get the key to work, been like this since i bought the machine over a year ago. Calibrated many many times, new cutters, new tracers, different sized cutters. Always the same

your machine is not right! I hardly ever calibrate mine, I don't even calibrate when I change the clamps most of the time - The machine must semi-calibrate every cut as it touches the notch in the clamp.

I've just tried a HU66 with 1.5mm cutter and it does leave a line all the down the cut (around 0.08mm thickness) this breaks off very easy but should not happen! Looks like condor do not test different sized cutters which is pretty poor like their X3 clamp attitude of use a 2mm cutter when really not that hard to do 2 passes using a 1.5mm cutter like Miracle does.

Having said that the key cut well and is as smooth as the original.

[insomnia2009]

Paul how is the tibbe clamp working out for you is cutting a good key now

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[armpower]

Hallo.I've cutted several HU66 key with 2mm cutter.
No problem at all.

[paul_12345]

Paul how is the tibbe clamp working out for you is cutting a good key now

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its better but too much messing around changing the cutter for me- so I wouldn't bother unless I really needed to - unless they add a two pass cut so you can use a 1.5mm cutter.

[insomnia2009]

Hallo.I've cutted several HU66 key with 2mm cutter.
No problem at all.

Hi but my machine even in picture on the screen the line is middle so there has to be problem maybe it didnt update correctly anyway its working for me im happy with it

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[whiskeyman]

If you go to all the trouble to make a machine
make sure it cut the day to day keys that most use
this why I don't buy machine
not good investment
messing means cost time and keys

[estate]

If you go to all the trouble to make a machine
make sure it cut the day to day keys that most use
this why I don't buy machine
not good investment
messing means cost time and keys

And this is why I currently have an X6 :D :D :D :D It cuts all the popular keys with ease and the cutters are ?2 each :D

[paul_12345]

And this is why I currently have an X6 :D :D :D :D It cuts all the popular keys with ease and the cutters are ?2 each :D

I bet the conder still cuts and decodes better than the X6 and it can use the same cutters as the X6 and I would trust it will get some updates in the future over the X6.

[viw9419]

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[insomnia2009]

well since the update it has yet to mess up on me cut a colt today hu56 1 cut and its perfect

[rapidlocksmiths]

condor is a good budget machine , more suited to the workshop than mobile due to size and weight , it has some bugs , some issues and some gaps , but i expect this for what it costs , on the whole a decent machine for the money.

miracle A6 is a reliable machine , has a few bugs but reliable as a light use machine , ideal mobile on a van and space saving .

Viper is a heavy machine and can play up in cold , but is a great heavy duty machine that will give a lifetime of reliable use and recieves lifetime updates and as silca is normally up to date.

Ninja laser - excellent machine , nothing better for me on sx9 keys , laguna 3 , megane 3 , new clio cards using 1234Q5678H series and decoding and cutting clio 3 keys , fast reliable cutting that allows you to pick various styles of cut as well as adjust to half cuts etc , the software can take getting used to due to the functions available on it , adds cylinder keys to your services too , its a well built machine that is like silca updated for life free.

most will cut a tibbe key on a clamp , but none will in my view cut a perfect tibbe key , a stand alone option will always cut a better key and far quicker too .

I have all of the above machines , so have hands on and regular experience with each machine and use them all , i like them all over the next for certain functions and all do different jobs for me , viper will always be my baby as it was my first , but ninja laser is catching it up fast my only gripe is viper is 30 second boot time , ninja laser is 4 minutes to boot up , but these 2 are in a league of their own

condor is a far superior machine to the x6 , the x6 is a starter machine for very light use and build quality is poor in comparison , i had an x6 to play with for a few months , i wouldnt buy one having gone hands on with it , condor will last longer and be more reliable of the 2 , its at least being supported and updated which is a big plus and is a far superior build quality to the x6 which at best is a hobby or starter machine .

it isnt always 100% accurate , but the find biting function on condor is useful if you dont have instacode to hand , and is a useful addition that makes the condor more useful .

[Samic]

Hi but my machine even in picture on the screen the line is middle so there has to be problem maybe it didnt update correctly anyway its working for me im happy with it

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friend,could you show me "parameter"of your machine?you can add me on skype/PM me

[Samic]

Thanks for all good advise.about 1.5mm cutter cutting twice for X3 clamp will fix within1-2week.
Condor 007 will add "define key"function,this function still under developing&testing.if ok will release for all.

[viw9419]

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[estate]

I think we all know that the x6 is a cheapy, and mine was ?300 with a dodgy sensor..... But I started this thread how long ago?!?! And only now are some of the issues being sorted. Hopefully it will continue as I will be looking at one ( possibly mini ) very soon, thanks to the keys my x6 has cut..... Then once this Condor earns it's crust I'll go straight for a Ninja I think. Like it has been said no machine is perfect. I gambled some pocket change on an x6 and it worked out so far, it's not without faults, but I guarantee there are more people using an x6 than will admit as a cheap almost throw away machine. The Condor looks and feels like Rolls Royce in comparison and with Samic's help hopefully it will continue to develop.

[tommyb72]

I bought the lishi machine a few mnth ago, I dont cut many keys but not had any issues as yet to what im cutting, What do you guys do for cutting the aftermarket renault card blades, with them being slightly different thickness to the genuine blades. Ive read other equipment uses a 1mm shim plate, is this same set up with the lishi thanks.

[insomnia2009]

I bought the lishi machine a few mnth ago, I dont cut many keys but not had any issues as yet to what im cutting, What do you guys do for cutting the aftermarket renault card blades, with them being slightly different thickness to the genuine blades. Ive read other equipment uses a 1mm shim plate, is this same set up with the lishi thanks.

hi yes i read also same for lishi but i never try it

[insomnia2009]

I bought the lishi machine a few mnth ago, I dont cut many keys but not had any issues as yet to what im cutting, What do you guys do for cutting the aftermarket renault card blades, with them being slightly different thickness to the genuine blades. Ive read other equipment uses a 1mm shim plate, is this same set up with the lishi thanks.


i also bought the lishi from tradelocks im curious what version yours came with my one was with 2.29 and i had few problems, with the update i think its alot better speed etc

[Samic]

I bought the lishi machine a few mnth ago, I dont cut many keys but not had any issues as yet to what im cutting, What do you guys do for cutting the aftermarket renault card blades, with them being slightly different thickness to the genuine blades. Ive read other equipment uses a 1mm shim plate, is this same set up with the lishi thanks.


About the this renault key is"VA2EH2",right? Usually the standard thickness is 3mm.if not【maybe will cutting the clamp】,
Remember to use "a shim plate"add the key thickness 3mm【nearly 3mm,no less than 3mm】,then cutting key.
There is one type of the Toyota smart key TOY48 as the same,need to add the thickness to 3mm.

[whiskeyman]

Does machine not sense thickness of key
could not be arsed pissing about with shims
different clamps etc

[paul_12345]

Does machine not sense thickness of key
could not be arsed pissing about with shims
different clamps etc

yes, but it can't do anything about the physical problem - which is it cuts the key at the required depth measured from the key the thinner blade means it cuts lower down - and at that depth the cutter is lower then the clamp at the side of the key; which does not matter for the cutter, but seeing how the tracer is at the same level as the cutter means it will hit the clamp.

However it should really check for this and warn you of it - This still can't solve the problem, you only need to place a shim down before the key will take 1 second - The only problem I have with this is that it doesn't warn you of this.

[rapidlocksmiths]

most machines that cut these use a shim or an adaptor for them , its a cross we must bear . if its the difference between cutting the key and getting paid or walking away unpaid , then a few seconds to insert a shim is no chore at all .

as with many keys , a shim or a well placed piece of piano wire can be a godsend especially on older manual machines , ive yet to meet the machine that can do all without the use of alternate clamps and adaptors .

it would be a fantastic machine that did all keys in just 1 clamp and with no need of any adaptors , shims or alternate add ons , i suspect if such a machine appears on market it wont be at the price of a condor which is excellent value for money even if one does have to put oneself out for a few seconds to a minute to add a shim or a clamp.

[viw9419]

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[Samic]

The latest version 2.3.1beta3 is released,add 1.5mm cutter cutting twice for X3 clamp.
User can update to this version and try it.if you find bugs/not work well let me know via PM/post here.

[paul_12345]

The latest version 2.3.1beta3 is released,add 1.5mm cutter cutting twice for X3 clamp.
User can update to this version and try it.if you find bugs/not work well let me know via PM/post here.

Thats good, I would give a review but your server is sh*t and I can not update again.

If you select enter bios should this go into the bios every time you press it - or is it buggy and only enter after a few attempts??? as I am wondering if the usb socket on mine is not 100% or whether its purely the buggy updater / server as even enter bios on mine takes about 5 attempts.

[cqae]

I just updated mine, not the 2.3.1 beta 3, did the beta 2 a few days ago.......was worried after all the talk about updates failing & mine when through first time although it too about 45 mins

was going to wait a while til the backlog ran down before I did Beta 3

BTW Iva asked you a few times paul_12345 about how you go with tibbe keys, after the update I finaly cut a few successfully, dont know if it was the update or that I used 2mm cutters, but I finally got some working

[paul_12345]

I just updated mine, not the 2.3.1 beta 3, did the beta 2 a few days ago.......was worried after all the talk about updates failing & mine when through first time although it too about 45 mins

was going to wait a while til the backlog ran down before I did Beta 3

BTW Iva asked you a few times paul_12345 about how you go with tibbe keys, after the update I finaly cut a few successfully, dont know if it was the update or that I used 2mm cutters, but I finally got some working

As I've said a few times I'm not really going to bother testing/using the X3 until the 2 pass is implemented - and seeing how I still can't update to beta 3 due to their sh*t software/server it does not look like I will be using the X3 for quite a while.

[paul_12345]

I just had this complete a update twice - but its leaving me with v2.2.9!!!

[dustin2014]

I just had this complete a update twice - but its leaving me with v2.2.9!!!
That's crazy.
They really need to sort these update formats out and come up with alternative methods.

I'm afraid to even attempt it after the last time.It took me days to successfully update then.

[cqae]

My support guy told me its been done in the current update, but I havent gone to beta3 yet, was going to wait a while. My update went pretty smoothly, maybe Ive just been lucky. Is yours in a shop or mobile Paul?

I was going to wait until they got a few bugs sorted before I updated

[autoTkey]

In Beta 3 I notice the speed is reduced by few percents. Also had to re-calibrate the clamps as the machine was touching on the wrong points when learning original key after the update from Beta1 to 3.

[Samic]

In Beta 3 I notice the speed is reduced by few percents. Also had to re-calibrate the clamps as the machine was touching on the wrong points when learning original key after the update from Beta1 to 3.


yes,i've checked the speed,the software engineer told me only reduce the start speed【but reduce too much,will re-setting to the properly speed】
About your wrong touch point problem,Could me tell me more information,which steps are you in and for which key?

[paul_12345]

yes,i've checked the speed,the software engineer told me only reduce the start speed【but reduce too much,will re-setting to the properly speed】
About your wrong touch point problem,Could me tell me more information,which steps are you in and for which key?

samic I just done the update again and yet again its done v2.2.9 ???????

[Samic]

samic I just done the update again and yet again its done v2.2.9 ???????

you choose the 2.3.1beta3 to update,but failed and now your machine always the 2.2.9 version,right?
still checking this problem,later will reply you.

[paul_12345]

you choose the 2.3.1beta3 to update,but failed and now your machine always the 2.2.9 version,right?
still checking this problem,later will reply you.

no it said update success 3 times now, with 2.3.1 b3 selected and each time its left me with 2.2.9

[Samic]

no it said update success 3 times now, with 2.3.1 b3 selected and each time its left me with 2.2.9

hi,paul.please delete the update log frist,then try to update,after that send me your log file.

[tommyb72]

i just tried to update to the new version 2.3.1b3 and server error and now my machine is not working on anything, why is there so many issues connecting to server ,

[tommyb72]

Samic if you have anything to do with the software on this machine , cant you make a exe file that is downloaded per serial , ive now been over 6 hours with this sh**e server and my machine is still ~~~~ed,
I had no issues with the machine appart from this pish , needs to get sorted before i throw the machine in the skip

[paul_12345]

ok I updated mine to 2.3.1 today first try..

x3 clamp - cut one side ok, turn the key around to start the other side then the machine stopped very quickly for no reason.

now machine is broke.. any clamp/key it just starts spinning up then stops as it starts to move.

[paul_12345]

just tried downgrading to 2.2.9 it failed at the end.. but I tried to cut a key anyway and now its working again!!

I was starting to really like the machine but this updating is a F*CKING JOKE!!

Samic why is your company allowing its good reputation to be ruined by this update problem?? why not just do offline update like you use to do for the vvdi???

such a shame - the 2 cuts it done on the tibbe did look pretty good and the 2 pass also seemed to work pretty good :(

[dustin2014]

Great machine , great support, but shocking update method. I'm afraid to go anywhere near the updates after the horrible experience I had the last time.

[paul_12345]

update. I tried the update again this morning and it worked first time under 12 minutes, and this time it seems to work.

Cut a tibbe key and provided you pay attention to putting the key in flat it now cuts a very good key (albeit a bit slow) a slight bit of deburring wheel needed but the cuts are bang on and works well in the lock.

[whiskeyman]

So how's it on the rest of the keys paul

[paul_12345]

So how's it on the rest of the keys paul

I would recommend it if anyone did not have a cut to code, cuts a nice key.. for the price and now support I think you can't really go wrong. (except for the update issue)

[urcarpc]

Apart from several attempts to complete firmware update, this machine rocks.

Oh and it does require regular calibration to keep the cutters functioning flawlessly, which takes less than 2mins to do :D



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[Samic]

I would recommend it if anyone did not have a cut to code, cuts a nice key.. for the price and now support I think you can't really go wrong. (except for the update issue)

Thanks for all good advise,we will solve this update issue and need more time for the"mirror server".
User can post your problem here/PM me if your machine not work well.

[54321]

I know the Condor has some issues and I've had a few myself which have been frustrating but I want to thank Samic for his efforts in trying to resolve all our issues over the last few months.

[P&D]

Anyone bought the Condor from this company ??
?500 cheaper than other sellers doesn't sound right to me but they do accept Paypal

http://www.vipprogrammer.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=946

Many thx

[paul_12345]

Anyone bought there Condor from this company ??
?500 cheaper than other sellers doesn't sound right to me but they do accept Paypal

http://www.vipprogrammer.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=946

Many thx

but what do they want for shipping?

[P&D]

?180 by DHL......so total cost ?1675

[paul_12345]

?180 by DHL......so total cost ?1675

think I got mine around ?1,880 now about ?1,923.30 on aliexpress so does seem a bit too cheap


*Edit just checked it was about ?1,770

[Cromwe11]

Paid ?1700 including shipping by DHL for mine from ZLS tech. Don't forget if buying through Aliexpress the seller has to pay fees much like eBay so always going to be a bit more expensive on there. So probably not that far off the mark especially if the condor is being replaced by the condor mini.
More to the point does anyone have any experience of that company? I did look at there site earlier this week as they have 62piece lishi sets for $1350 but couldn't find confirmation as to weather or not the lishi picks they sell are genuine.

[Samic]

Maybe with 1-2weeks the XC-007 can support both online update/offline update.
About offine update user can post the SN number here/PM me,then i will send the file to offline update.
If user find bugs or machine not work well,please let me know.

[urcarpc]

think I got mine around ?1,880 now about ?1,923.30 on aliexpress so does seem a bit too cheap


*Edit just checked it was about ?1,770

Similar price as mine. Uobd2.net

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[Samic]

Condor XC-007 now support both online update and offline update.
V1.4.3 software only support online update V1.5.0 software support online & offline support.
About offline update user can download V1.5.0 software,then post SN【display in machine main interface】 here/PM me,
then i will send the offline file【different SN with different file】to you and how to do.

Notes：offline update support from the version 2.2.9/2.3.0/2.3.1...【display in machine main interface】,too old version cannot support【such as 2.2.8/2.2.7/2.2.6 version】
if user version is too old,need to online update to the offline support version first.
V1.5.0 software download Link：

[paul_12345]

Condor XC-007 now support both online update and offline update.
V1.4.3 software only support online update V1.5.0 software support online & offline support.
About offline update user can download V1.5.0 software,then post SN【display in machine main interface】 here/PM me,
then i will send the offline file【different SN with different file】to you and how to do.

Notes：offline update support from the version 2.2.9/2.3.0/2.3.1...【display in machine main interface】,too old version cannot support【such as 2.2.8/2.2.7/2.2.6 version】
if user version is too old,need to online update to the offline support version first.
V1.5.0 software download Link：

good news!!

[hamzadaw2000]

From where I can order xc007 machine?


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[rm23]

I have updated my condor offline yesterday successfully all went ok 12 min job ! ;) thanks SAMIC ! ;)

[hamzadaw2000]

Samic advice me from where I can order ?


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[autoTkey]

Samic so I heard XC-007 is off the production line now and only the MINI will be available from now on. And is it also true there's still no english version for the Mini?

[Samic]

Samic advice me from where I can order ?
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sorry friend,I'm only technical support,you can ask for other users.of course if you have any problem you can PM me.
maybe 007-2gen will come out after a time.

[estate]

So Condor XC007 is to be discontinued? I seriously hope it isn't............

[dustin2014]

Top man Samic. Updated the Condor offline in 10 mins. No hassles.
Hope the Condor continues as well- Support is excellent.

[Samic]

So Condor XC007 is to be discontinued? I seriously hope it isn't............

mate,will not give up 007.maybe will add support circular cutter,make it work better.

[tommyb72]

have to thanks Samic for sorting this out with the offline update, went in without issues, i had spent another whole week trying to update online and failing each time leaving my machine useless.
Thanks again. hopefully all updates will be carried out offline

[siyadk]

whats the difference between condor XC and XC mini\

[paul_12345]

Samic, can you tell us the difference between condor XC and XC mini\

I am asking in terms of hardware.. does it have same specifications for example motor

considering the future, could you suggest buying XC or XC mini

not tried a mini but large is pretty solid.. but probably have less chance of them dropping support with the mini !

[autoTkey]

But 007 has bigger chance of dropping it on your feet :) ...with fatal results

[Cromwe11]

Samic there is a bug with PW1 old Porsche keys. It cuts fine but the cutter moves across to start the second side before it has cleared the end of the key. Cutting quite a bit of the end in the process.

[Samic]

Samic, can you tell us the difference between condor XC and XC mini\
I am asking in terms of hardware.. does it have same specifications for example motor
considering the future, could you suggest buying XC or XC mini

mate,you can compare the Mini and 007 from the User Manual,about motor Mini machine is faster than 007.
if need,i can send you both the Mini machine and 007 user manual via PM/on skype.

[Samic]

Samic there is a bug with PW1 old Porsche keys. It cuts fine but the cutter moves across to start the second side before it has cleared the end of the key. Cutting quite a bit of the end in the process.

Friend,thank you feedback this bug,i will check this problem.could you show me the origin key photo and cutting key photo in detail?

[Cromwe11]

335114

Sorry not the best picture customers old badly cut key I was replacing. And the first key cut with the condor with the tip cut off. Cut it fine after this by pausing the machine removing the key then letting it move over and putting the key back in to cut the second side.

[Samic]

[QUOTE=Cromwe
Sorry not the best picture customers old badly cut key I was replacing. And the first key cut with the condor with the tip cut off. Cut it fine after this by pausing the machine removing the key then letting it move over and putting the key back in to cut the second side.[/QUOTE]

from the photo,more likely your machine problem.you can add me on skype/send your skype PM me,i will help you check and test your machine.

[paul_12345]

either my update didn't install 100% correct (even thought it said it did) or there is a major bug with HU46 - start cut then the cutter travelled down to the start position but went too far and snapped the cutter against the bar clamp!!

Will send me serial number to get an offline update and try again.

[insomnia2009]

got an offline update today all went well took about 10 minutes , my online update was similar said success but was never right

[Samic]

either my update didn't install 100% correct (even thought it said it did) or there is a major bug with HU46 - start cut then the cutter travelled down to the start position but went too far and snapped the cutter against the bar clamp!!
Will send me serial number to get an offline update and try again.

send me the SN and current version,i will send you the offline update file.i will check this HU46 problem,then reply you.

[paul_12345]

anyone who has done the online update get the offline update else you may be in for a nasty suprise even if it says success.

Now with offline update the hu46 problem is gone.

[siyadk]

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[autoTkey]

We commented on this on the previous page. XC-007 is stopped from production but support for it will still be available. Maybe it will be replaced by another similar size model?

[Samic]

We commented on this on the previous page. XC-007 is stopped from production but support for it will still be available. Maybe it will be replaced by another similar size model?

Now only XC-Mini is available,XC-007 will come out as a new type and add more functions after a time.
Both 007/Mini will add "Define Key"function in a short time,still testing,if ok i will post here.

[zecozc]

first i sent this email to
Dear Sir
while working in condor machine the spindle changed the z axis adjustment and damage the vice as you see in the images
this happened while cutting the HU75 VW key , and every time we repeat it , it cuts the first track normally and in the second track , the cutting tool cuts the vice
would you help me solving this problem

and he replies
Dear friend

From your cutting photo,i know you have bad cutting with VW HU75（8cuts EXT).i want to know the version of your machie（2.2.9 or2.3.0）if its 2.3.0 then you can do this steps:
1. Take a photo of parameters(Factory Mode -> Show Parameters)
2. remove jaw X1/X2 from the base, then enter Factory Mode, and click on "Stepmotor Mode". The machine will test X,Y,Z axis itself. When is test 10 times, you can press "Cancel" to stop test, then take a photo and send to me


if you can attach the cutting video（about HU75）send to me,any problem keep in touch.




Best regards
Samic

i tried everything and sent this email:
Dear Samic :sorry for too late reply , i tried your solution , and also using many firmware versions also i used last update version , nothing changes , we tried to copy HU75 key , the machine reads it successfully , but starting cut faulty , first pass of the tool , it traces the cuts successfully but z axis didn't move into the key as it in normal cutting process,
in the second pass of the tool the z axis go to into the key and reach the vice and starts to cut the key and vice together ,
so the problem now is the z axis ,it takes a wrong feeds from the program ,we don't know why ,we opened the machine and didn't find any damage or tear belts ,so we need you help please , about 6 months the machine is not working .

so if any can help me to solve my problem

[autoTkey]

Hey friend - I think your explanation is not correct - the problem is with the Y-axis(the cutter goes toooo deep). And why didn't you stop the machine when it started cutting the base of the clamp? I also notice the probe is not broken so maybe you set it higher than the cutter which could be the problem of your machine. Cutter and probe must be aligned at the same height through the settings menu.

P.S. Please loose this yellow color - your post is hard to read.

[dustin2014]

Same thing happened my Condor. it was the the y axis. fixed it by disconnecting and reconnecting the 9 pin cable on the left hand side of the Condor.

[Samic]

first i sent this email to
Dear Sir
while working in condor machine the spindle changed the z axis adjustment and damage the vice as you see in the images
this happened while cutting the HU75 VW key , and every time we repeat it , it cuts the first track normally and in the second track , the cutting tool cuts the vice
would you help me solving this problem



you'd better test machine in"factory mode" and send me the "parameter",then i can help you.

[Dheiab]

Please help me to get the latest update shearing machine condor xc-007

[Samic]

Please help me to get the latest update shearing machine condor xc-007


no problem,send me the SN and the current version PM me/on skype,i will send you the offline file.

[znakedwrx]

Just updated online today my XC-007 and no problems! Very happy with speed increase. Just wondering from maintenance side, do we need to lube any parts of the machine?

[Samic]

Just updated online today my XC-007 and no problems! Very happy with speed increase. Just wondering from maintenance side, do we need to lube any parts of the machine?

Not need to lube the machine,User should check the consumptions of the spindle drive belt and the stepper motor belt regularly.
If excessive wear and tear occur, please replace and ensure the key cutting accuracy.

[jeccy]

i bought one iKeycutter CONDOR XC-MINI，it costs me US＄3199,just looks like Condor XC007.
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[54321]

Can the Condor cut the sx9 key yet?

[54321]

Has anybody cut va2 blades using the condor? I couldn't get a 2006 Renault Modus key to work using the condor, picked and decoded lock fine but the keys i cut would not work in the lock.

I'm on the latest update, cutters and clamp are calibrated well.

[p1et]

Modus have VA6 cuts, so your decode will be wrong if you decoded by VA2 - because you did?

[54321]

Sorry my mistake in the post, i did pick and decode with a VA6. But it didn't cut a correct key. I've also had problems with va2 in the past.

Any Condor users, have you cut va2 or va6 with this machine?

[rm23]

I did VA2 renault master key 2011, cut and decode ok with condor...

[54321]

I did VA2 renault master key 2011, cut and decode ok with condor...Was this a lost key or a spare?

[rm23]

spare key...

[Samic]

Notes:Because of Chinese Traditional Spring Festival,mostly company will have a vacation from 3rd-13th,February,2016 in china.
in this period worker all not in company,about repair device or other issues should be waiting for the vacation end.
if User have any problem can post here,after back we will check and solve as soon as possible.

[Manmart]

Hello. Where I can download last update XC-007, Tried to contact with Samic through Skype, but he did not respond to requests.

[dustin2014]

Hello. Where I can download last update XC-007, Tried to contact with Samic through Skype, but he did not respond to requests.

Think thye're already on holidays mate. My Condor has been broken again since Tuesday and I've been emailing and Skyping them for assistance but they're not helping me.

[paul_12345]

Think thye're already on holidays mate. My Condor has been broken again since Tuesday and I've been emailing and Skyping them for assistance but they're not helping me.

whats wrong with it?

[autoTkey]

This year the New Year holidays start on 7-th February and continue until 13-th. But traditionally most of the people in China take a week off before and some also after the official holidays. And the workers from many of the factories often take 4-5 weeks away to have the time to go to their homes and see relatives. It's a big event in China.
So "Manmart" instead of waiting for an answer just search through the thread - I'm sure you'll find the software you're looking for.

[Manmart]

Thank you, about holidays... before and after my attempts to contact with Samic. He posted a messages in this forum. may be have been very busy.

[dustin2014]

whats wrong with it?

I've got is sorted now Paul. Took it out of the van and took off the casing around the cutter & tracer which had dropped down. The heads of screws had dropped through the threading so I managed to re-tighten them by adding a few small washers to each one.

[gurmk]

Any solution on how to cut the Plastic HU66 ?

[dustin2014]

Any solution on how to cut the Plastic HU66 ?

Try site read original key and cut a normal HU66 blade for probe to detect posituion. Then once machine has detected HU66,click on pause, remove metal blade and replace with plastic HU66.Cut at slow speed.

[Samic]

Condor XC-007 new update software and define key tool
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Notes:define key tool only support new version update to 2.3.3 first.
find bugs/not work well let me know.

software & quick guide start download link:

[dmp]

any feedback on this upgrade yet? Successes/failures? I'm hesitant to risk the machine going down if has stories like the last one

[totalkey]

Condor XC-007 new update software and define key tool
363272 363271

Notes:define key tool only support new version update to 2.3.3 first.
find bugs/not work well let me know.

software & quick guide start download link:
Samic, how is cut house dimple keys? What cutter need full r dimple house keys?

[Samic]

any feedback on this upgrade yet? Successes/failures? I'm hesitant to risk the machine going down if has stories like the last one

offline update option already added in new update software.if your Internet is bad to connect our server,i can create offline file for you.

[totalkey]

offline update option already added in new update software.if your Internet is bad to connect our server,i can create offline file for you.
Samic please reply to the dimple key questions

[Samic]

Samic please reply to the dimple key questions

dimple key need different type cutter.different cutter cutting different part.show as the photo.
after you define key ok,if you wanna key learn you should select special probe(diameter less than 0.5mm,standard probe is 1mm)
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[Manmart]

Hello Samic. I can't to add Valeo key from Citroen DS. Ability of software configuration do not allow to do that. IfI wrong, please give me some advice, how i can add this type of keys ?