SOLUTION FOR NEWER EZS AND ESL WITH NEC INSIDE.

[wsc]

297377
here is my ezs file.
Thx

tested your dump with these keys and works great :)

[puiu]

297377
here is my ezs file.
Thx

or try this files ,but i am sure wsc files are god to :)

Puiu

[wsc]

I think that the problem is the tool he use not the key dumps

[puiu]

you are perfecly right my friend ;)


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[cqae]

i was leaning towards diagspeed for the BGA keys, but its the most expensive of all & I am sure everyone else will do them eventually. I have emailed the legendend web & he is very quick to replay & very helpful, although the NOIMMO package looks the most complete......im so confused:(

[obdsystems]

me to very much lol

[autodigitec]

i was leaning towards diagspeed for the BGA keys, but its the most expensive of all & I am sure everyone else will do them eventually. I have emailed the legendend web & he is very quick to replay & very helpful, although the NOIMMO package looks the most complete......im so confused:(

It depends what you are looking for.. If you just want to make keys, it's indeed a very expensive set. Lol

If you want to use other functions like renew EIS/ELV/program w204 ELV you don't pay any tokens.
mehaco/mercedesinstruments/noimmo all have tokens for this.
thelegendweb has no renew by password services, but you must pay for the ELV files.

I wanted to buy diagspeed set aswell, but after the recent comments of people saying that BGA password reading can take a lot of your time, I have to think about it.

[WISETIGER]

I have tried on 3 different BE keys bought from AVTOTOOLS with same issue.
I will try with different device or to write on original key to try then

[Siham]

All depend of the service that offer dealers ,here in my country dealers service are BAD and customers that have expensive cars like Mb,BMW,Range .... do not like to wait 1/2 week minimum if not sometime 1 or 3 month to get a working key , and also other workshop that do not have the tool sent the ezs in europe or to mehaco or other for doing a key and only the fee of DHL is 175 euro and also need to wait a week at least.
And also here customers do not think to do a copy or adding key over when they lost their only working keys so for me tool that can not do all keys lost do not worth in my business . :withstupid:
So i invested much money in a good toll that is really amazing over today never get any bug ,yes i pay token but also my invoice amount will not be pinnuts :chuncky:!! for some MB model i charge more than 1000 euro ,for ELV 500 euro etc....
And for BGA keys really soon they will be news from other like noimmo , mehco necpro 57 , that is for sure.
So my advice be quite before investing much money , take your time and also look what your market need and the way he go.:hmmmm::ciao:

[aassfour]

i have the noimmo for about a year now and its flawless tool, very simple , very easy and very fast ... as they promised soon the update for EIS reset and all key lost solution
i have a trust in this company since all their tools from beginning till now are perfect. couple of years they were the best in MBE tools but since one of their top engineer has passed away so they stopped developing for for a while which left them behind for a while, but new team now is doing amazing job

[puiu]

I can say the same about Mercedes Instrument ,is do exactly what is write in manual,working great
,no false promises or "this should work ,but i don't now why "
i can say nothing about update,reading BGA etc....
Great support with competent answers.

Puiu

[WISETIGER]

I think that the problem is the tool he use not the key dumps
Hi
I tested writing your files today on original black key sw57 from sprinter and it worked fine.
But writing on BE keys from the same file did not work.
My keys ( 3 differentBE KEYS tested) bought from avtotools at 100 euro/pcs .....i hope they are not faulty.
Anyway thx very much everyone for solving my problem.

[puiu]

BE keys are sh....t ,i use only original used keys


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[WISETIGER]

BE keys are sh....t ,i use only original used keys


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Thx
I will look for genuine keys then.
Just for info; key manually calculated by Roy from Diagspeed worked fine; problem was BE KEYS

[puiu]

I was shure all calculation are ok...


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[MarkPRP]

With w169 BE keys will only work with Mbkeyonline.com files.

I've been through it, I made files with SKC and didn't work!

[lagas]

Yes noimmo i use 3 or 4 years or more. All perfect. For now wait then bga keys be posible read pass and make new addisional keys and then update. Today order ESL/EIS tester/emul let you know how it works. Only one think is bad shipping price is killing :D

[autoTkey]

Some of you mention there is a tool which can do all-keys-lost. Is it Diagspeed?

[Siham]

All keys lost is ok for EZS with motorola MCU , but for EZS with nec you need EZS with working key that yu can get the psw and after that renew your second hand ezs and adapt it to the car even for some car that have BGA key at origin and keys are all lost yu can adapt a second hand EZS with key V57 for all cars over 2012-2013.

[autodigitec]

The only problem is how much will cost you the [renewed EZS] or a [second hand ezs+v57 key] to renew by yourself.
To that add the price of the key that you are adding and tell me how much you charge the costumer for "a key" in this case, because that's all he wants.

[joemajdalani]

The only problem is how much will cost you the [renewed EZS] or a [second hand ezs+v57 key] to renew by yourself.
To that add the price of the key that you are adding and tell me how much you charge the costumer for "a key" in this case, because that's all he wants.

Exactly,under normal circumstances you can't charge,but in some countries where vehicle is written off by insurance Company due to big accident damage
or working on stolen cars then can't buy keys etc. & they charge accordingly....Glad we don't have these issues here.

[autofan1965]

All keys lost is ok for EZS with motorola MCU , but for EZS with nec you need EZS with working key that yu can get the psw and after that renew your second hand ezs and adapt it to the car even for some car that have BGA key at origin and keys are all lost yu can adapt a second hand EZS with key V57 for all cars over 2012-2013.

Thanks for explanation but what with esl? It is paired with old ezs or?

[lagas]

No problems with esl in this case

[wsc]

guys cheapest solution is dealer ......

[ghassooon]

Noo u have to renew the esl since it stores the password of the ezs

[autofan1965]

With all tools is need to renew esl by all key lost?

[ghassooon]

Yes since they store the ezs password also

[autofan1965]

Then how mehaco make key by all key lost?
FOR THE 221, 216, 164, 204, 207, 212, 218, 166 it is possible to program a new key, even the car have no keys !!! (AMAZONAS, PALERMO, HAVANNA, NEW YORK, STUTTGART.....)
Just send us the EIS, and we can make for you the original key (or keys).
We can add, or re-enable, or generate keys for the latest models!

[aassfour]

Then how mehaco make key by all key lost?
FOR THE 221, 216, 164, 204, 207, 212, 218, 166 it is possible to program a new key, even the car have no keys !!! (AMAZONAS, PALERMO, HAVANNA, NEW YORK, STUTTGART.....)
Just send us the EIS, and we can make for you the original key (or keys).
We can add, or re-enable, or generate keys for the latest models!

Mehaco changes the EIS with a working key


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[autofan1965]

Changes eis ok, but they dont say anything about renew esl.

[autoTkey]

Does any one know if the password from the NEC key changes in time or is always the same?
My idea is - if client comes and asks for key but decides not to do it and on the "next day" he comes again and tells me he lost his only key, can I make him a new key by using a backup of the password which I made for him some time ago?

[labusas]

Yes, correct. Never changes unless manually edited

[smayer]

Very carefully about ESL Doctor, this tool don?t do what the seller says:
1 - Just virgin 20% of esl?s
2 - Can?t virgin Sprinter/vito esl
3 - After virgin you need always read eis and key to generate a new esl file.
4 - Most of this files it?s not free.

[cqae]

esl doctor......is this the product from legendweb?

[didi_du_93000]

Yes the legend product, and I really think it's same than Simon touch product.

[smayer]

Yes is from the legend but same from Simon touch.

[cqae]

ive actually emailed both of them & both companies assure me their products are not the same.........

[aassfour]

ive actually emailed both of them & both companies assure me their products are not the same.........

they are the same tool :) 100%
the difference is : you will get support from the legendweb , but u will pray for support from simon touch

[key-maker]

Same products it's from the legendweb, Simon buy from elie
The owner of the legend

[aassfour]

Same products it's from the legendweb, Simon buy from elie
The owner of the legend
100% right
that why the support from the legend is good cz he knows his own tool. not like simon who is just selling and barely knows how it works :)

[cqae]

ah ok, thanks. I guess they both tell me that so I dont buy fro their oppostion.........not good though, both said 100% not the same, dont really like being mislead by a person that Im considering paying 5-8000 to

[Rito]

I send email to diagspeed.co about device all answer is very simple:


Message
I want information about your device. I need to do new MB key.. At this moment I only do keys for old types EZS HC908 and HC12 and 9S12.. I read about your device can keys for new types whit BGA keys. Please give-me prices for device and all infos...

Him answer only it:

Hi it work from 1998 to 2014
price 8000 usd

So we must belive it or not?? much money for tool not work......

Thanks

[cqae]

i got pretty much the same reply, I notice some chinese sellers are selling it now too-but more expensive

[bali motor]

I think china now already clone ,
NECPRO57 many seller in china but original, and diagspeed tool also.
and now diagspeed tool china made it... and price cheap..

[autodigitec]

I think china now already clone ,
NECPRO57 many seller in china but original, and diagspeed tool also.
and now diagspeed tool china made it... and price cheap..

what chinese are selling cheap can't be compared to diagspeed..

[bali motor]

Ecutool.com sell it..

[bali motor]

http://www.ecutool.com/2015-Newest-Key-Advanced-Programmer-for-Mercedes-Benz_11714.html

Look this..
I think This clone from diagspeed.. ..
Just can not online calc..

[autofan1965]

It is not even clone from mb evo. Most used words in description are "nothing to worry" and "later".

[bali motor]

yeah .. Are you right ... but chian've been trying to make cloning.. Maybe next times they will make full update ..
so for those who have the original tool .. work hard to earn much money..... before the market price be destroyed....
[emoji12]

[aassfour]

What the Chinese are selling is not clone
It's the original tool sold by diagspeed to ecutool to increase his sale, the first to do this was necpro57 since he didn't have a marketing plan he made a deal with Chinese major online website to sell his tool. And now diagspeed are doing the same, it's all about selling more and more and more and increasing their market. why they are doing this ?
First to increase their sale and increase the $$$$ before the Chinese come out with their own tool which 100% will be cheaper and selling more and their tool sale will decline massively. Wether they like it or not the Chinese will make a tool for benz sooner or later so they will make every thing to increase the sale before uncle Li release his tool
As simple as that. Using Chinese website as marketing for their tool since Chinese website has huge traffic
and if U ask diagspeed is that ur tool ? He will say no so that u buy it from him the profit margin is higher if bought directly from him

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[autodigitec]

http://www.ecutool.com/2015-Newest-Key-Advanced-Programmer-for-Mercedes-Benz_11714.html

Look this..
I think This clone from diagspeed.. ..
Just can not online calc..

This is OEM chinese product, not a clone.

[wsc]

DS tool and Necpro57 are the original tools , China company just resell them
i think only MBE tool is clone ( the blue one tool :) )

[autofan1965]

Diagspeed have reading pass from EZS+BGA key for all customers? Because they dont answer and resseler say that is option is not available for regular customers. Where is true?

[wsc]

I have not that info but I could ask mate
I m sure that ecutool is reseller of DS tool

btw what regular customer is mean ?

[autofan1965]

Reseller say that only few persons in world can use this option. Regular customer, just normal customer wich buy it.

[wsc]

Let me answer you ASAP mate

[amir_82013]

now which tools is good ?
Simon
Legend
Mehaco
MB key prog
noimmo
necpro57

[Master01]

amir_82013 - noimmo is good tool.

[didi_du_93000]

For me

1 Mehaco
2 necpro57
3 diagspeed
4 the legend
5 noimmo

[wsc]

Reseller say that only few persons in world can use this option. Regular customer, just normal customer wich buy it.


BGA pass is available for any customer except the Lebanon customers ( don't ask me the reason I don't know )

[Meat-Head]

BGA pass is available for any customer )

Ah simples, ditch ALL passwords and don't tell the lebonise you done it.

[wsc]

Didn't get you mate

[MarkPRP]

Many people on this thread keep asking which tools is the best, or which one makes keys or does whatever for this that and the other..

If you want to just make key - Buy MBkeyprog EVO and make money..
If you want to change EIS, make new ESL, change VIN in modules, Mess around with HASH and other more advanced things then buy MI
If you want Dealer pass to not cost, then pay DS for his tool, and hopefully all functions will come available..

:)

[z786]

which one of these tools can adjust KM in EZS on new mercs?

[smayer]

which one of these tools can adjust KM in EZS on new mercs?

All this tools, but just in 2017 :)

[Siham]

Mercedesinstruments !

[z786]

have u actually done 1 using these?

[autodigitec]

which one of these tools can adjust KM in EZS on new mercs?

AFAIK, If you renew the the EZS with dealer password the kms are reseted to 0. Then you adapt to what the dashboard has. NOTE: Some NEC EZS can have the mileage changed without reneweing, but not all.

[kikikis2001]

Hello, what You think about Cee-Team Mercedes Programmer - http://cee-team.com/en/news/62-mercedes-keys-programmer.html
Is it better than Mercedes Instrument or Necpro57? There is only a little information about this Team and their Programmer. I don't know what to think about Them. Mayby Somebody have more info? Greetings.

[smayer]

Hello, what You think about Cee-Team Mercedes Programmer - http://cee-team.com/en/news/62-mercedes-keys-programmer.html
Is it better than Mercedes Instrument or Necpro57? There is only a little information about this Team and their Programmer. I don't know what to think about Them. Mayby Somebody have more info? Greetings.

This cee-team and The Legend are the same.

[aassfour]

This cee-team and The Legend are the same.

100% right

[autoTkey]

And I didn't see much opinions about Cartool's MBtool and Efichip's NEC programmer. I think both have NEC option. And the Efichip is quite cheap I think...

Edit:
According to Cartools website, their tool can read HASHes on older 705 EIS too.
http://cartools.su/mbtool/page12.html
And any other EIS.

Does any of the other tools do this? That is if I'm understanding what is written correctly. It would be convenient to support the older models by IR too, no only the NECs.

[MarkPRP]

And I didn't see much opinions about Cartool's MBtool and Efichip's NEC programmer. I think both have NEC option. And the Efichip is quite cheap I think...

Edit:
According to Cartools website, their tool can read HASHes on older 705 EIS too.
http://cartools.su/mbtool/page12.html
And any other EIS.

Does any of the other tools do this? That is if I'm understanding what is written correctly. It would be convenient to support the older models by IR too, no only the NECs.

Any IR key tool can read HASH from 705 eis (w202/208/210) but CANNOT READ PASSWORD yet..

[autoTkey]

But you get only hash from EIS and then get password from working key to make new key, right(no matter which tool you use)?

How about the Noimmo's NEC 12 tool - does it support reading hashes for EIS with Motorola, like the Cartools tool? Because they are roughly the same price and both seem quite reliable. Cartools tool has some extra functions that may come in handy too(though it seems you need to rely on SKC for the calculations).

Edit:
Oh, I think I got it now MarkPRP. You mean on 705 EIS you can't get pass by IR from EIS(which is the case with all EIS types) but you can't get it from reading the key, too? So you will need to get the pass by reading a dump of the processor. Right?
Sorry if I'm asking dumb questions but obviously I'm not yet introduced to any Mercedes key making.

[ttzag]

Hi
What tool can add a scond key like this ,,w204 2011 keyless?300202

[star10]

This is BGA key,not supported yet. MI say in proces


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[aassfour]

But you get only hash from EIS and then get password from working key to make new key, right(no matter which tool you use)?

How about the Noimmo's NEC 12 tool - does it support reading hashes for EIS with Motorola, like the Cartools tool? Because they are roughly the same price and both seem quite reliable. Cartools tool has some extra functions that may come in handy too(though it seems you need to rely on SKC for the calculations).

Edit:
Oh, I think I got it now MarkPRP. You mean on 705 EIS you can't get pass by IR from EIS(which is the case with all EIS types) but you can't get it from reading the key, too? So you will need to get the pass by reading a dump of the processor. Right?
Sorry if I'm asking dumb questions but obviously I'm not yet introduced to any Mercedes key making.
705 EIS and 9S12 EIS , BOTH ARE MOTOROLLA and both you can read hashes but both you cant extract the password by IR , you are going to need the help of an existing key, if no key available , remove the EIS out and do it old fashion way , if key exist but the V is not 51 or 57 , do it the old fashion way , BUT if key is 51/57 then you can get the password from key and calculate hashes with pass and u get new key DUMP. as far as i know NOIMMO is the best and most reliable in this

[autoTkey]

Well thank you for clearing up that mist in my head.

Now I see that Efichip's NEC tool(which is manufactured by JSC "Tomahawk Diagnostic Technologies" - they seem quite serious judging by the info on their website tomdiag.com) is being offered at 1099 EUR which is the cheapest solution, yet(I think). Does anybody have any experience to share with this tool? It seams to do well on the youtube videos with v51/57(they are using Apple computers for the demos!). It just doesn't have key calculation included, so you need to rely on SKC or online solutions. My opinion is based only by the POV of someone who is interested just in adding/making second/third keys and nothing more.

[joemajdalani]

Well thank you for clearing up that mist in my head.

Now I see that Efichip's NEC tool(which is manufactured by JSC "Tomahawk Diagnostic Technologies" - they seem quite serious judging by the info on their website tomdiag.com) is being offered at 1099 EUR which is the cheapest solution, yet(I think). Does anybody have any experience to share with this tool? It seams to do well on the youtube videos with v51/57(they are using Apple computers for the demos!). It just doesn't have key calculation included, so you need to rely on SKC or online solutions. My opinion is based only by the POV of someone who is interested just in adding/making second/third keys and nothing more.

Also must pay extra to read PSW from ROM 57,was 2000 EUR before,maybe cheaper now.

[autoTkey]

I think the whole thing is 1099 together with the support for 51/57 password.

[aassfour]

no its not 1099 the whole thing , plus it doesnt read password from 908 and 912 directly by IR so comparing it to another tool it equal the chinese one

[labusas]

>>>no its not 1099 the whole thing , plus it doesnt read password from 908 and 912 directly by IR so comparing it to another tool it equal the chinese one>>>
But most importantly it has "wake up" procedure for newer 2011 up w164 ezs. All lebaneese tools cant' read that switch IR.

[autoTkey]

... plus it doesnt read password from 908 and 912 directly by IR ...What do you mean? I thought there's no tool which can read pass by IR from the EZS/EIS?

And what about the Cartools MBtool. It also seems quite decent but there are not many opinions about it here. For 3000 USD you get not only key making but also many repair functions, including tool for ESL/ELV.

[aassfour]

>>>no its not 1099 the whole thing , plus it doesnt read password from 908 and 912 directly by IR so comparing it to another tool it equal the chinese one>>>
But most importantly it has "wake up" procedure for newer 2011 up w164 ezs. All lebaneese tools cant' read that switch IR.

noimmo has this option


What do you mean? I thought there's no tool which can read pass by IR from the EZS/EIS?

And what about the Cartools MBtool. It also seems quite decent but there are not many opinions about it here. For 3000 USD you get not only key making but also many repair functions, including tool for ESL/ELV.

i think you should read more about which tools does this and which doesnt. as for cartools mbtool , its out of the league in Benz tools.
suggestion:
* MI
* MB EVO
* Legend
* Necpro57
* DS

you can look into these tools and no others concerning Benz

[joemajdalani]

I think the whole thing is 1099 together with the support for 51/57 password.

Look i bought this tool in May 2013 when it was first released for around 1700EUR,weeks later they sent me mail saying can read PSW from ROM 57 & additional
payment of 2000 EUR,been sitting on the shelf since then.Also never been any updates.
From what i heard many people return it back then for refund.If you professional tool follow what aassfour is saying.

[autodigitec]

>>>no its not 1099 the whole thing , plus it doesnt read password from 908 and 912 directly by IR so comparing it to another tool it equal the chinese one>>>
But most importantly it has "wake up" procedure for newer 2011 up w164 ezs. All lebaneese tools cant' read that switch IR.

As I never got one, I always wondered how a w164 from 2011 still comes with v57 nec keys. Because if it doesn't, reading the eis hashes will not help anyway.

Anyway, it's not all lebaneese tool, thelegendweb has update in their tool to read those new 164 and 221 eis.

[z786]

AFAIK, If you renew the the EZS with dealer password the kms are reseted to 0. Then you adapt to what the dashboard has. NOTE: Some NEC EZS can have the mileage changed without reneweing, but not all.

which tool can do this then? extract dealer pass? i dont care about the keys im just interested in mileage?

[autodigitec]

which tool can do this then? extract dealer pass? i dont care about the keys im just interested in mileage?

To renew ezs you need ezs/key password + dealer password.
-most advanced companies will calc the dealer password online.
-for ezs/key password you need to get it from a working key. If it is BGA, only diagspeed can do the job.
And I guess that's it, obviously these tools are quite expensive unless you have a LOT of these mercedes to correct. Not to mention that you better chose a company that has good support if you are not used to work with keys/immo system.

I saw carprog already does mileage in some nec ezs directly, but not the common 204/207.

[z786]

from what someone tells me diagspeed cant pull out dealer pass or key ezs pass?
and yes alot of mercs waiting lol

[z786]

anybody ???????

[bali motor]

Mercedesisntrument alredy update reading pass for ezs hc908 and hc912. Last version 7.03

[Siham]

Sorry for newbie question but hc908 and hc912 are unsecured ,right ?
BTW thank you for the info!

[star10]

Sorry for newbie question but hc908 and hc912 are unsecured ,right ?
BTW thank you for the info!

it is secured mcu

[vevepatronu]

Look friends, another promotion from Simon, do you think it is worthless?

MERCEDES NEC IR KEY PROGRAMMER


Mercedes NEC IR device can learn an extra key to ALL MB MOTOROLA/ HAVANA/ AMAZONAS/ PALERMO EIS… with black or chrome key Version 51/57 And all Motorola big key versions.
Device can erase and write all NEC KEY Version 11/21/35/40/41/51/57.
Device read ALL EIS types VIA INFRA RED_OBD_K-Line And Can in seconds.
If the car has no keys at all or has new BGA key, device will create Grey Key to program NEW EIS.
Repair or control the key hash even the new BGA key.
MB ESL LITE, read/write/repair ESL Motor (ONLY)
Renew Engine control unit online.
Dump key calculation online.
MB KEY EIS TESTER
NO DEALER PASS REQUIRED/ NO TOKENS/ OFFLINE/ DEVICE WILL NOT ERASE THE EIS OR THE ORIGINAL WORKING KEY.
READ OLD CARS LIKE 202/208/210/203/209/220 VIA IR/OBD.
DEVICE DO THE JOB 100% ORIGINAL WITHOUT DELETING THE DEALER RECORD


PROMOTION PRICE 1500 EURO INCLUDING FREE SHIPPING WITH EXPRESS COURIER

[bali motor]

Look friends, another promotion from Simon, do you think it is worthless?

MERCEDES NEC IR KEY PROGRAMMER


Mercedes NEC IR device can learn an extra key to ALL MB MOTOROLA/ HAVANA/ AMAZONAS/ PALERMO EIS… with black or chrome key Version 51/57 And all Motorola big key versions.
Device can erase and write all NEC KEY Version 11/21/35/40/41/51/57.
Device read ALL EIS types VIA INFRA RED_OBD_K-Line And Can in seconds.
If the car has no keys at all or has new BGA key, device will create Grey Key to program NEW EIS.
Repair or control the key hash even the new BGA key.
MB ESL LITE, read/write/repair ESL Motor (ONLY)
Renew Engine control unit online.
Dump key calculation online.
MB KEY EIS TESTER
NO DEALER PASS REQUIRED/ NO TOKENS/ OFFLINE/ DEVICE WILL NOT ERASE THE EIS OR THE ORIGINAL WORKING KEY.
READ OLD CARS LIKE 202/208/210/203/209/220 VIA IR/OBD.
DEVICE DO THE JOB 100% ORIGINAL WITHOUT DELETING THE DEALER RECORD


PROMOTION PRICE 1500 EURO INCLUDING FREE SHIPPING WITH EXPRESS COURIER

1500 euro for full set very cheap..
where you got information? email?

[vevepatronu]

yes, i got email from him, i think it was sent to many other people

[ttzag]

1500 euro for full set very cheap..
where you got information? email?
by email ... i received it too
but we need some one ho is really test it

[bali motor]

For esl doctor is ok. Im test already..

[THeFOg]

I know his email was sent by someone already but can you post it again please?


Thank you for your time

[aassfour]

Many bad reports about the tool and bad support , jumping from 6000 euro to 1500 euro within less then a year !!!! Not normal
it's not a promotion I think he s desperate to sell his stock


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[Siham]

Absolutely agree!! Simontouch bad tools and basd support ,many locksmith have it here in my city but no one can do what i do with my MI.
But also we must understand that Abrites have best prices with their new MN024 functions and I think they will add more functions .
Maybe also other company will drop prices.

[autodigitec]

Be warned that at this moment esl files that are needed for personalization need to be requested by email and can take a few days to get an answer.
Also regarding support, you need to yell and wait a lot to them on skype to get an answer.

Anyway, it is still crazy cheap, I got the full set at 6000€ around middle of 2014, it's already paid by the services, but I still feel cheated in a way. :/

[hamzadaw2000]

Any body tested the new function by abrites?
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[Siham]

Any body tested the new function by abrites?
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Maybe if you use search button you will find it in under : AVDI & mercedes keys (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/462995-AVDI-amp-mercedes-keys) :)Some gentleman have started to report about it.:)

[kashnut]

totally agreed and they lost my W204 eis which I sent to them!!!
and they cannot even bother to help!!
in the end MEHACo are the ones who really know their job...I just send them my ecu and they make a new eis 2 keys and esl and car start....F simon touch!!!!

[autodigitec]

totally agreed and they lost my W204 eis which I sent to them!!!
and they cannot even bother to help!!
in the end MEHACo are the ones who really know their job...I just send them my ecu and they make a new eis 2 keys and esl and car start....F simon touch!!!!

Remember new keys ordered from dealer wont work.

[hamzadaw2000]

Hello.

What about this device from Minsk?
323315


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[Siham]

what about the legend web tool ,is good ? how about support?

[NiZaTroniC]

Legend web good tool and support

Envoy? de mon GT-I9300 en utilisant Tapatalk

[doctordiag]

LIKE USUALLLY, "MEHACO" THE LEADER OF INVENTIONS IS PROUD TO ANNOUNCE YOU THE LATEST UPDATE OF KEY LESS PROG v3.05 (http://mehaco.com/image/data/soft/Key_Less_Prog_V3.05.rar)THAT ALLOWS YOU TO MAKE KEY FOR LATEST MERCEDES CARS :

[aassfour]

LIKE USUALLLY, "MEHACO" THE LEADER OF INVENTIONS IS PROUD TO ANNOUNCE YOU THE LATEST UPDATE OF KEY LESS PROG v3.05 (http://mehaco.com/image/data/soft/Key_Less_Prog_V3.05.rar)THAT ALLOWS YOU TO MAKE KEY FOR LATEST MERCEDES CARS :

nothin there except a software that wont open without dongle

[bali motor]

LIKE USUALLLY, "MEHACO" THE LEADER OF INVENTIONS IS PROUD TO ANNOUNCE YOU THE LATEST UPDATE OF KEY LESS PROG v3.05 (http://mehaco.com/image/data/soft/Key_Less_Prog_V3.05.rar)THAT ALLOWS YOU TO MAKE KEY FOR LATEST MERCEDES CARS :

Mehaco tools same as MI tools. . Now can work for Read password for bga key and loss key 212 . Tested.

[aassfour]

Mehaco tools same as MI tools. . Now can work for Read password for bga key and loss key 212 . Tested.

can MI get pass from v51 ?

[puiu]

MI don't have the update yet ,i check it right now :(

[bali motor]

can MI get pass from v51 ?

Not yet. Just v57. But can read by Ir and keyless go also.

[bali motor]

MI don't have the update yet ,i check it right now :(

Puiu, i will send new update to you.
Pm me your email

[aassfour]

that is a disadvantage since 40% of benz are 51v
donno about other market but keyless go in my market is not a priority so that will put MB EVO ,(simon , legend same tool ) on top of MI when the new update will come in next 2 weeks

[puiu]

Puiu, i will send new update to you.
Pm me your email

PM send,
thank you

[bali motor]

that is a disadvantage since 40% of benz are 51v
donno about other market but keyless go in my market is not a priority so that will put MB EVO ,(simon , legend same tool ) on top of MI when the new update will come in next 2 weeks
If u have MI tools. Pm me your email
I send last update

[bali motor]

puiu, check your email, send alredy

[aassfour]

If u have MI tools. Pm me your email
I send last update
i have the MB EVO and i have tested their new update

[bali motor]

yeah, i think all tools for new nec ezs will update for bga key read pass, and loss all key.
but i think different how to use and different price.. and how much cost for got password?

[aassfour]

yeah, i think all tools for new nec ezs will update for bga key read pass, and loss all key.
but i think different how to use and different price.. and how much cost for got password?
i have no idea about the price
but wtever the price is , it is worth it

[bali motor]

I agree with you, gain valuable solution, professional, not all can be free

[Siham]

Hi Bali ,

This update is free or must have some option already opened ?Can MI customers get pass from V51 ?

UPDATE ADVERTISE received from Mehaco (sorry did not own your tool anymore,but great tool) does it need always tokken ?


1 ) Option "List Key" . It allows you to get information from any working key BGA or any ROM version and make a calculation of the password on the server NEC EZS FBS3 : 164, 221, 216, 204, 207, 212, 218, 166. Acquisition time- 10-40 minutes , the computation time on the server 5-10 minutes.

2 ) Option "List EZS". It allows you to get information from an EZS and make calculation for password on the server. Acquisition time 15-45 minutes , the computation time password server 5-10 minutes. Supported EZS W166, 212, 246.

Thanks :)

[bali motor]

Last update can read data from key and then send to him for got password. But must pay for one pass. Read data need 15min -1 hour. Calc pass just 10 min.
Nb: if have option read pass rom 57 no need pay option read data key. But read data from loss key 212 need pay for this option.
For read pass rom 51. I am not try yet. I will ask him.

[Siham]

Make customers to pay for each online work make a tool week ,that my point ! :(
Better to pay an symbolic price for annual subscrition , cause MI options are not a gift ! :(
Hope the legend will add update soon.

[joemajdalani]

At the moment all IR tool authors are charging for tokens to read BGA PSW,just some cheaper than others

[Siham]

At the moment all IR tool authors are charging for tokens to read BGA PSW,just some cheaper than others

WRONG !!!! ::)

[joemajdalani]

WRONG !!!! ::)

Diagspeed & MI are,no other developer has announced that they released their SW.
Please tell us who's not asking for Tokens to do BGA (ROM 75) keys

[hamzadaw2000]

Nec57pro released before one month


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[Fallen]

How are all these developers coming up with exactly the same solutions at exactly the same times?

[qubits]

you're right. Conspiracy!!

[Siham]

Diagspeed & MI are,no other developer has announced that they released their SW.
Please tell us who's not asking for Tokens to do BGA (ROM 75) keys

As you mentioned Diagspeed and think also Necpro57 does not require tokens.
Much better to get EOM dongle and calculate offline esl nec reset ,just pay once .
For me Tokens are BULL~~~~s!! Only a way to get more money from customers ,better to pay an annual access with limited calculation like 10 times by 24 H.
With tokens even if we pay expensive price we are not really Free and when you are hurry and you forgot to add money on your paypal account or CC you need to spend time in futility ,just better pay money once and its OVER.

Just my 2%.

:)

[joemajdalani]

Siham,no one is going to give this new development for free,there's 2 ways for them to make money,
1- Charge for the new SW & no tokens
2- SW for free & pay for tokens as needed.

[autoTkey]

How are all these developers coming up with exactly the same solutions at exactly the same times?

AVDI doesn't :)

[Siham]

Siham,no one is going to give this new development for free,there's 2 ways for them to make money,
1- Charge for the new SW & no tokens
2- SW for free & pay for tokens as needed.

I'am not saying they must gives us this new update for free ,is just to pay for it a reasonable price if we need it ,it depend of market , but what is not far is to pay expensive option or update and still need to pay to make it work (tokkens) . :(
I' payed more than 1000 Eur at leat for tokens to get dealer pass for renew esl with nec ,a part of the 5700 Eur that i payed to get the functions for renew in MI.

[joemajdalani]

Siham i understand you,i ended up buying Calculating Dealer pass option because was buying tooo many tokens.
I can't buy BGA tokens now because in our market cheaper for me to buy key from dealer.Other markets where can't buy key from dealer
for under 300E or can't buy at all would be fee sable to buy BGA tokens

[mercis]

please stopp your idiot post

[autoTkey]

There are news form noimmo - SuperMerc Kit:

Complete Electronic Key Maker 1996-2010
Then 2010-2014 for Sprinter, Vito and Viano.
An add on comming soon for most models up to 2013/2014
Duplicating lost keys through electronic ignition.
From original key-90% as some are sealed version 51 and 57.
From electronic ignition via IFR- 40 to 60% that is throught the front of the switch.
From electronic ignition via eeprom - 90%. If you can read it you can calculate it. Very early Motorola needs to come off the board and cannot be read incircuit.
Testing of Electronic Keys, Electronic Ignition and EIS/ESL

This is not on their page yet but on Lockdecoders who are their new partner since few weeks.

There's also this new handheld tool to read the info on the keys - MB Key expert EVO. It works on batteries of course...

[Siham]

Hi ,

It is possible to get pass from china keys or BE keys ?
If yes what tool can do it?
cause i have one w204 that elv is broken and owner only have a chinese key he lost the original one. :(

[puiu]

Simon touch claim that can read the pass from BE key

[iamfooser]

Mbdoctor by the legend can read password from Chinese BE keys. Tested.

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[Mario3]

Its 99% the same tool as simons so both should work

[MarkPRP]

There are news form noimmo - SuperMerc Kit:

Complete Electronic Key Maker 1996-2010
Then 2010-2014 for Sprinter, Vito and Viano.
An add on comming soon for most models up to 2013/2014
Duplicating lost keys through electronic ignition.
From original key-90% as some are sealed version 51 and 57.
From electronic ignition via IFR- 40 to 60% that is throught the front of the switch.
From electronic ignition via eeprom - 90%. If you can read it you can calculate it. Very early Motorola needs to come off the board and cannot be read incircuit.
Testing of Electronic Keys, Electronic Ignition and EIS/ESL

This is not on their page yet but on Lockdecoders who are their new partner since few weeks.

There's also this new handheld tool to read the info on the keys - MB Key expert EVO. It works on batteries of course...

This is the same kit and stuff they have been selling for months.

I was the uk supplier, or one of them for MBE but they will sell to anyone....

[ascotauto]

Does anyone know if no immo new emulator requires tokens from sonderhash or is it just programmable with their esl prog? This is my deciding factor as i am still confused as to what tool is best. I enquire here enquire there but never get convinced, the token part is off putting but ive accepted can someone put me out of my misery. I just want to make lost key on old eis, Add key. then i want to do elv replace and emulator. Mileage correction will be a bonus. The legend or no immo ? tough tough call

[Mario3]

If you want to do only the things you said, and not go for the latest car models etc, then the legend tool will be fine. But if you want to have the newest stuff go for noimmo or nec57, Mehaco/Mi is also very powerfull but cant do a few things the others can so first examine all posibilities of all tools and decide what you want to do

[javyb]

Can the mbkeyprog reset the km in nec based ezs like w212 w204 w176 etc

[Siham]

When you renew an elv or ezs its like new so 0 km.
Bur when you program it to car it will automatically take the km of the car.

[javyb]

When you renew an elv or ezs its like new so 0 km.
Bur when you program it to car it will automatically take the km of the car.
What if u put dash to zero then put the reset ezs inside? Also when u reset the ezs do you have to reprogram to the car

[Mario3]

Yes you would have to reprogramm it, and yes mileage of the car should be 0km :)

[mercis]

ok,but you have stored km:apologetic:

[Siham]

you forgot ecu and cgw ,both have km stores.

[Mario3]

Yes they do, but the ezs when active is synced with the dash.. So question here is i think will it stay on 0km when the dash and ezs are virginised ? I think yes

[gurmk]

DiagSpeed Xmas offer $5200. Thinking of getting it. Payment by Bank , MoneyGram or Western Union.
I normally only use PayPal, hence the reason for hesitation.

[autodigitec]

And how much is each calculation of BGA password?

[Frankcar]

Mehaco Device :

1-Basic Hardware Key Less Prog + OBD/38 pin cables + Zif socket (you already know about it , it supports all cars year 98-2006 even with Key Less keys ) 1700 euro

2-Option Rom57 if you want to only add key when car has working ROM57 key by OBD or IR or CAN for any car year 98-2010, 2700 euro
3-Option Program EZS/ESL if you want to program ESL and EZS(change mileage or chassis number ) for 204,221,164.... 3000 euro but this option doesn't work without the previous one ..
4-Option Renew if you want to renew EZS,ESL,ECU,ETC,ISM,DSM all by CAN or K-line to use in any desired car you will need Dealer password , every Token cost 50 USD or if unlimited price will be 2800 euro ....
5-"NEW" Option "List key" to Get password for cars with BGA keys or any other Rom version for Free if you have option 2-3 otherwise option price will be 2500 euro working on EZS_NEC_FBS3 164,221,216,204,207,212,218,166,246 ...
6-"NEW" Option "List EZS " to Get password from EZS when all keys lost 1500 euro then you need to pay token 150 euro for each EZS_NEC_FBS3 . working with 166,212,246...



you ca profit from 20% discount on special functions

[Mario3]

Mehaco Device :

1-Basic Hardware Key Less Prog + OBD/38 pin cables + Zif socket (you already know about it , it supports all cars year 98-2006 even with Key Less keys ) 1700 euro

2-Option Rom57 if you want to only add key when car has working ROM57 key by OBD or IR or CAN for any car year 98-2010, 2700 euro
3-Option Program EZS/ESL if you want to program ESL and EZS(change mileage or chassis number ) for 204,221,164.... 3000 euro but this option doesn't work without the previous one ..
4-Option Renew if you want to renew EZS,ESL,ECU,ETC,ISM,DSM all by CAN or K-line to use in any desired car you will need Dealer password , every Token cost 50 USD or if unlimited price will be 2800 euro ....
5-"NEW" Option "List key" to Get password for cars with BGA keys or any other Rom version for Free if you have option 2-3 otherwise option price will be 2500 euro working on EZS_NEC_FBS3 164,221,216,204,207,212,218,166,246 ...
6-"NEW" Option "List EZS " to Get password from EZS when all keys lost 1500 euro then you need to pay token 150 euro for each EZS_NEC_FBS3 . working with 166,212,246...



you ca profit from 20% discount on special functions
Isnt the list key option also based on paying per key ? 150e or has that been changed ?

[gurmk]

And how much is each calculation of BGA password?

BGA Pass $100.00

[autoTkey]

This is a very not polite price to ask.

[Mario3]

Mercedesinstrument is 150eur per pass or 1500eur annual fee and then unlimited for 12 month plus prebuyed license.. doesent make sense with 250e price for a key at the dealer

[Siham]

You get my point Mate !! )
Also i'am not so hurry about BGA still not get one.
With EZS nec now you can do the whole job with less than 1500 euro including elv renew and repair only have to pay for esl file or just get epm dongle .
But still have to get new ezs when keys lost .

[Frankcar]

NEW VERSION OF AVDI MERSEDES 7.5 (http://shop.abrites.com/index.php?route=information/news)
Extended functionality of "DAS Manager" - free for all current owners of MN022+MN023+MN024 special functions.

- Reading security related data (FBS data a.k.a hashes) from the EZS/EIS, Engine Control Units, Transmission Control Units, ISM / ESM, Steering Lock (ELV/ESL) by DIAGNOSTIC connection.
- Resetting security related units to their factory default state, in order to prepare them for retrofitting in a different vehicle by DIAGNOSTIC connection.
- Personalization of all security related units - programming of the needed security related data for proper operation of the unit when fitting it to the vehicle.
- Activation of all security related units.
- IR-adapter includes the ability to emulate Green/Gray keys needed for personalization of EZS/EIS and Steering Lock (ELV/ESL).
- Emulation of a real IR-key using the IR-adapter
- Coding data reading and programming for security related units (transmission type, VIN, part name, SCN coding, ...)
- Improved EZS/EIS password extracting by IR-adapter for EZS/EIS equipped with motorola HC912/HC908

No need for any kind of tokens!

All calculations (password reset /hashes or ELV/ESL passwords) are automatic and free for users with active AMS and the special functions above.

All users will start receiving their download links from 11-January-2016.

[Frankcar]

AVDI Interface +ATC01 : 600 Euro
MN020- Instrument cluster data manager : 1800 Euro
MN021 - TV, ECU, Airbag manager : 400 Euro
MN022 - Key programming and EIS/ESL data manager for Mercedes : 700 Euro
MN023 -7-Gear ETC and ISM recalibration : 1000 Euro
MN024 - ?
MN025 -Infra Red and NEC password reader : 450 Euro
ZN030 - ABPROG with ext. cable : 300 Euro
ZN036- IR AVDI cable : 50 Euro

[joemajdalani]

You forgot PROTAG 800 Euro

[Mario3]

You forgot ABPROG 800 Euro
I think you mean protag... but in fact you dont need it

[dijo]

I think you mean protag... but in fact you dont need it

How you read write IR key w/o Protag?

[Mario3]

On Nec adapter desoldered as it was before protag

[joemajdalani]

I think you mean protag... but in fact you dont need it

Yes corrected,was half asleep still :)

[autoTkey]

Maybe this would save some efforts and time for reading pass and virginising the used keys:
- ZN032 - Adapter with socket for NEC MCU
http://shop.abrites.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=63&product_id=294
Anyone working with this add-on?

By the way - anyone knows if ABPROG can write on the AVDI IR keys with desoldering?

[techterr]

Maybe this would save some efforts and time for reading pass and virginising the used keys:
- ZN032 - Adapter with socket for NEC MCU
http://shop.abrites.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=63&product_id=294
Anyone working with this add-on?

By the way - anyone knows if ABPROG can write on the AVDI IR keys with desoldering?

Do you mean the Abprog, or Protag??? Abprog needs the chip from the key to be desoldered and either soldered on the abprog board or placed in a clamshell... The protag will program the keys just like the MBE keyprog2..

[autoTkey]

Yes, I mean ABPROG as I wrote it - I wonder if writing will be successful because on AVDI page it says they(for example TA12) can only be written by PROTAG ? Anybody tried writing on them with desoldering?

[Mario3]

Yes, I mean ABPROG as I wrote it - I wonder if writing will be successful because on AVDI page it says they(for example TA12) can only be written by PROTAG ? Anybody tried writing on them with desoldering?
Thats for avdi benz keys.. they are aftermarket keys and no where near oem original keys.. the should be similar to chinese BE keys and they for sure dont have a NEC chip... For programming original used keys you need abprog and you HAVE TO desolder nec from pcb to revirgin it. Programming of a virgin can be made same way on abprog or solder it back and write via Ir with protag

[pepi]

TA12 keys can be writed ONLY with PROTAG. That was an answer from Miro at Abritus team.

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[autodigitec]

the should be similar to chinese BE keys and they for sure dont have a NEC chip...

Definitely they have a NEC μPD78F9234 "chip" just like all the other noimmo/chinese BE/EB variant keys.

[Mario3]

Yea but not same as the original benz key

[hamzadaw2000]

Any body ordered that keys, and tested.


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[gogoli]

I contact with all seller for mercedes key programer for nec ezs but all seller have same problem for do key need one key used with nec inside for get pass
in all programer if loast all key cant do key , if used key is BGA cant do key if you need bay pass need pay 150 euro or 200 euro
I bay one programer for do key mercedes with nec ezs end its ok work ok but have problem with bga key end when loast key
I think all seller for moment not change from each other ,change price ,they have very little change

[offsystem]

What is when pulling out ezs and read with programmer than there is no key needed? Or i am wrong

[Mario3]

What is when pulling out ezs and read with programmer than there is no key needed? Or i am wrong
Correct. But on ezs with motorola mcu. When Nec mcu in ezs you can only open it take a nice picture of the pcb and close it again

Regards

[mati-rk]

There is no programmer at this time whitch can unlock locked nec v850? I tried to search a lot of hours for nec v850 programmer witch can read secured nec v850 but without succes.

[bali motor]

News from mercedesinstrument..............

calc BGA password price 50 euro for now.

soon will upload server, no need send list dump to alexej..

regards

[Mario3]

News from mercedesinstrument..............

calc BGA password price 50 euro for now.

soon will upload server, no need send list dump to alexej..

regards
Awesome news

[joemajdalani]

Now its affordable compared to before,couldn't use it before because buying key from dealer is near same price as BGA PSW calc price

[makp619]

https://www.hickleys.com/diagnostics/zedfull_mercedes.php

How does the new Mercedes ZED-Full hold up against the current systems available for Mercedes? I have seen no mention of this tool so far.
I have seen MB EVO, Legend, MI, Diagspeed, NOIMMO, Simon & Mehaco but none of them make me feel confident in buying them.

The other companies seem like a risk especially for the cost. If tool doesnt work they already have your money and good luck getting refund or support.

Im almost sure I will buy since less risk. If it dont work I will return and hopefully not out of too much money

The simple fact that a major company like Hickleys is promoting Mercedes Zed-Full has got me interested especially since they have payment options.

Anybody have experience or feedback, good or bad with ZED MB?
I more or less wanted to see if anyone knew of any reason why I should not buy it

[ascotauto]

Anyone have opinion on the mb evo update for bga keys? Price is high for update? And i read lost keys solution too?

@makp619 ive been following this thread for a year. I dont know how good zed is but if you after a good reliable tool read this and choose one that suits your pocket and usage. That is what i was told and its sound advice. Im not sure if you do mb now but its a cosly affair. Pays in long run if you have the work to pay for it.

[tomlib]

stupid question... Is this EZS with NEC inside? I don't see 0L40K...

[Mario3]

Yes. A nec mcu. So whats your question here ?

[tomlib]

Thanks! You just answered on it :)

[Mario3]

Glad i could help 😆

[PremierD]

Clue .. 80 pin 112 pin 144 pin Motorola .. with mask ID ... pickie has how many ? :)

[Rito]

Someone know this??
This is reseler noimmo tool but it talk about bga??

http://www.immotoolscy.com/bga-software-update/

[Mario3]

yes, BGA function will be relased soon on noimmo tool.. as on all others who didnt have it, its just a matter of time

[W221]

What do you folks recommend for renewing an EIS in a w221? Only purpose would be to fix incorrect mileage downloaded from a replacement cluster. I have an AVDI, but no MN026 option. Would this be the best route? No need to program keys. Thank you.

[Siham]

using search button mate you will get all your answers and something more .
Have you at least taked the time of reading all the post about new EZS with nec ? do not think so :)

[W221]

using search button mate you will get all your answers and something more .
Have you at least taked the time of reading all the post about new EZS with nec ? do not think so :)
I have and have reached out to many vendors. A response from AVDI said it would not, but some users say yes. And some say that certain EIS can be reset by OBD2 but they only specify that "certain models" can do this, and do not say which model, only that it would have to be tried. Hoping someone with a definitive answer could chime in.

I'm sure you looked at my post count and assumed I did not read first, but in fact I have a much older account on the boards that I no longer access.

[Rito]

I have some feedback about AVDI it work good in MB.. EZS+ ESL.....
I use Noiimo tools many years ago. But I not will wait more... (Will seel Noiimo) and Buy Update to AVDI.

[W221]

Does AVDI renew KM to 0? I just want cluster to reflect actual mileage. Thank you.

[mariusz971]

that's exactly what I did. I couldn't wait anymore and I sold my mbe tool

[Rito]

Does AVDI renew KM to 0? I just want cluster to reflect actual mileage. Thank you.

Not renew KM to 0 for now....

[Aniskey2]

Ihave Original AVDI with AMS active , MN026, PROTAG and ABPROG, i need to change used esl for W204 BENZ i succed to reset esl and to get key password
now i need to reset the eis to it's factory mode but i don't know how please can someone told me how to get service password to reset it is it automatic online?
any answer will be much appreciated

[electrones]

Hi friends
Someone here, have tested codecard esl emulator or em001 abrites emulator in 2010 ESL From MB Vito!?
Thanks in advance.
http://www.codecard.lt/immo/vw-crafter-mercedes-sprinter-vito-viano-steering-lock-esl-elv-emulator/prod_983.html
http://shop.abrites.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=435

Cheers

[pepi]

Ihave Original AVDI with AMS active , MN026, PROTAG and ABPROG, i need to change used esl for W204 BENZ i succed to reset esl and to get key password
now i need to reset the eis to it's factory mode but i don't know how please can someone told me how to get service password to reset it is it automatic online?
any answer will be much appreciated

Why to reset EIS to factory mode ? If you have EIS dump with pass all you need is to generate ESL dump and write to the ESL.
You can upload dump of EIS with the pass and someone who have EPM dongle software will generate ESL dump for you.
http://thelegendweb.com/page.php?itemid=374

[Aniskey2]

Pepi Thanks for ur attention
AVDI can't write esl dump generated it can only make personalization of esl377102

[Mario3]

You need to connect the esl directly to pins to make virgin, after that put everything together connected with eis and read esl over eis (obd) after esl connected click personalise and activate and all will be made automaticly

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[QBAelectric]

Read EIS then press "Get EZS password"in order to do so you will need IR reader. When you have a key pass you can Virgin EIS by inserting IR reader to it.Then you proceed with manual.Yes I know AVDI's manual is really vauge.

[W221]

Has anyone used the Simon Touch OBD option to connect and write to an EIS successfully? I am getting a USB error and Serial Number Not Found error. Application validates license fine, but it will not connect to car, or think the OBD cable is actually present.

Thanks

[i_shot_the_sheriff]

Hey mates,,,, as for avdi ,, im trying to make an ESL EMULATOR for w204 ,,

1) I read FBS/DAS data + PASSWORD ok ,,,
2) connect emulator on car
3) Read emulator ok ,, VIN : 00000000000000
4) Click Personalize and i get a fault saying EZS should first be not activated and then i must personalize ESL ! Should i make EZS virgin? Like clicking the virgin button????! After that the 3 working keys will work again?!

I'm talking with support too ,,, but i'm in a kinda hurry and i'm not getting any fast responses today

Thanks in advance

[MarkPRP]

I dont know about AVDI, but with most tools you when you Virginise EIS, you need to write saved data with password back, then personalize ESL then activate

[Mario3]

I dont know about AVDI, but with most tools you when you Virginise EIS, you need to write saved data with password back, then personalize ESL then activate
Read the eis over obd, save data, read coding and save it too. Then make it virgin, yes.

Personalise the esl emulator on it and write back the readed eis data that you got first, then coding and youre done.

Yes all keys will work agai but you have to insert them first in the eis to get synced again

Regards

Hey mates,,,, as for avdi ,, im trying to make an ESL EMULATOR for w204 ,,

1) I read FBS/DAS data + PASSWORD ok ,,,
2) connect emulator on car
3) Read emulator ok ,, VIN : 00000000000000
4) Click Personalize and i get a fault saying EZS should first be not activated and then i must personalize ESL ! Should i make EZS virgin? Like clicking the virgin button????! After that the 3 working keys will work again?!

I'm talking with support too ,,, but i'm in a kinda hurry and i'm not getting any fast responses today

Thanks in advance


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[i_shot_the_sheriff]

Read the eis over obd, save data, read coding and save it too. Then make it virgin, yes.

Personalise the esl emulator on it and write back the readed eis data that you got first, then coding and youre done.

Yes all keys will work agai but you have to insert them first in the eis to get synced again

Regards



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I wonder why on the w204 manual section they don't say it that simple!! I really appreciate the explanation...... will do it tomorrow morning


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[i_shot_the_sheriff]

Done these steps:

1) Read EZS + Password all ok and save on folder
2) Put ESL emulator on car
3) Click VIRGIN EZS and make ezs new
4) Click Personalize ESL ,,,, now it says DONE !! ESL EMULATOR PERSONALIZED
5) Go to EZS ,,, click PERSONALIZE with old files i saved ,,,,, click WRITE CODING (says written but with some ERRORS !)
6) Put keys one by one in EZS and initialize ,,,,, and now DASHBOARD comes ALIVE !!! But car no start

I've tried everything ,,, NO DTC ,,, dash open ok ,,, car no start ! EZS activated , personalized ,,,, but on the top it says EZS is neutralized

[JFR-Tuning]

Hi 8

have original AVDI and AMS with man 0026

also IR Adapter

Check IT on a Viano MJ 2009

in DAS MANAGER. I can Read EIS the i Put the IR ADAPTER OVER THE APROG ( You sea IT only in Video That You have to use the APROG together ) in the EIS

BUT AFTER 1 MINUTE

POPUP : Abritus dont work the Mercedes soft still Stopp

any Solution to Read password by a Viano Up 2008 ?

and also Need a Solution for Read the EIS ON Dash with one big MCU ( Rossfar have no picture for this )

thmx

[Mario3]

Hi 8

have original AVDI and AMS with man 0026

also IR Adapter

Check IT on a Viano MJ 2009

in DAS MANAGER. I can Read EIS the i Put the IR ADAPTER OVER THE APROG ( You sea IT only in Video That You have to use the APROG together ) in the EIS

BUT AFTER 1 MINUTE

POPUP : Abritus dont work the Mercedes soft still Stopp

any Solution to Read password by a Viano Up 2008 ?

and also Need a Solution for Read the EIS ON Dash with one big MCU ( Rossfar have no picture for this )

thmx
Post picture of eis pcb and somone will give you a pinout

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[JFR-Tuning]

thanks



the First Problem is solved

abrites forget to unlock MN025

i buy now MN026

second i Order the cable from MB KEY for x-prog i will Tester and Report

[offsystem]

Hi 8

have original AVDI and AMS with man 0026

also IR Adapter

Check IT on a Viano MJ 2009

in DAS MANAGER. I can Read EIS the i Put the IR ADAPTER OVER THE APROG ( You sea IT only in Video That You have to use the APROG together ) in the EIS

BUT AFTER 1 MINUTE

POPUP : Abritus dont work the Mercedes soft still Stopp

any Solution to Read password by a Viano Up 2008 ?

and also Need a Solution for Read the EIS ON Dash with one big MCU ( Rossfar have no picture for this )

thmx
What you mean with SW stopped?
A error message or crashed programm??

[daxxer]

What you mean with SW stopped?
A error message or crashed programm??

i think there is MCU mask: 0L01Y, no problem to read MCU eeprom with R270, VVDI Prog or other tools... :listen:

[dave11674]

Sorry to drag this up
but where can we buy new blank NEC. Chips from
for ESL. And keys
thanks