red diesil

[rangers71]

i was talking to a guy the day and he said he filled his pug 406 hdi with red diesil and he said his car just gave up.
i have my self used it for a old diesil merc i had and it worked fine in that. a thought red diesil would work for every engine but do u think it dosnt work in hdi engines i know its not alowd to use but a was just wondering if its that thats caused his car to stop running

[smirnoff_rules]

406 hdi ]]] thats why .. its ~~~~ed the high pressure pump up , comman rail pumps dont like cheap diesel and red hasnt the right amount of oil in to lumb the pumps

[rangers71]

thats what a said to him m8 its because its hdi and am only said that because some 1 said hdi donk work with veg oil

[Scooter]

All new diesel engines will not be very nice to red diesel or eco friendly diesel as we shall call it.
The high pressure pump will not take the viscosity of the cheaper oils as it is specifically design'd to run on a lower viscosity

[Neil]

I think you will find both red and white are the same now. A few years ago red used to have a higher sulpher content but not anymore.

[Femalelizzard]

I get a full tank of red for ?15 of a dodgy garage in newcastle seems to run fine although I do tend to shiiite my self when i see a T5 behind me on me travels the havent noticed so far fingers crossed although I do avoid the tyne tunnel and take the bridges lol:party:

[smirnoff_rules]

l know a few peeps that run it and it doesnt run the same .. its smokes more but l would run on an old car without a problem but never on a newer car ..anyway its been phased out soon ..

well thats wot these boot owners say http://www.the-norfolk-broads.co.uk/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=38&Topic=8165

l know its a forum but lm sure most of u will stay here lol

[Femalelizzard]

l know a few peeps that run it and it doesnt run the same .. its smokes more but l would run on an old car without a problem but never on a newer car ..anyway its been phased out soon ..

you know i bought that scrapper to get my moneys worth for a few month so still red for me till the wheels fall off.

just asked a question about milage clocking in the garage sec smirn would you like to comment im sure you know more about it then most on here :rofl:

[rangers71]

a bought a old e reg merc a few years back a 1.9 diesil a think for 300 quid and ran it on the old red for a year solid then the power steerin went on it and it was like a bloody tank so a got a qoute to get that fixed and the guy said it will be about 700 so it went to the big car park in the sky lol

[Barnsley Bill]

In a nutshell...the bosch pumps will handle red/bio diesel,but if your pump is lucas..stay clear..i run a 306 hdi on red no probs and av done for a couple of years,im just in the process of learning how to make bio diesel from waste veg oil..a very intresting subject indeed...if anybody would like some info/links on this subject..feel free to pm or leave a reply.

[wynnyin]

i used to use red on an old ford escort worked no problem

[melloned]

I ran my 02 1.7TD astra on it during the fuel embargo years back ,when they blockaded the refinerys , it drank a 40gal drum no prob.
Dont Know if i'd use it in the 3yr old 2.2 tdci mondeo i've got now , but who knows what the next fuel strike will drive you to !
If they reduced the bloody "sheriff of Nottingham" duty on the the stuff nobody would bother !

[tay72dog]

bin useing for 10 years no problems.

[paulg]

I use to have a 306 HDI and all it ever took was red and it never skipped a beat, you just sh!t a brick when you see a vosa car!

[thered]

i thought the only difference apart from price was colouring and everything else is mere scaremongering

[yamar1]

i thought the only difference apart from price was colouring and everything else is mere scaremongering

thats correct, same diesel, different colour. why would the refineries go through the trouble of making different batches when the only difference is the amount of tax on it, the red is getting phased out in a few year anyway, then the farmers construction firms will have to claim the tax back on regular diesel to stop the joe public running there cars on it.

[roadfitter]

Red diesel. One other word of warning. If anyone is thinking of buying "cheap" diesel, don't bother. It is more than likely rebated or red diesel that has had the dye stripped out. Forget all those fanciful tales of pouring it through fuller's earth to remove the dye, it's just not true. What they actually use is Oleum (fuming sulphuric acid) & cat litter (the active ingredient contained in it, that neutralises the smell of cat urine also does wonders at removing dye), lime or cement powder, then filter it again thru cotton wool or a one micron industrial steam filter. This not only strips the dye but also all of the lubricity agents and all the other additives that are added to DERV, anti-wax & anti-foam. The resultant toxic sludge is then dumped at the side of the road, with all the resulting environmental impacts. Oh... and because red diesel has a different SG to DERV, the hygrometer trick still works equally as well. Most HM C&E roadside testing (dipping) used to be done with a clear squeegee bottle and a pipe, they would simply take a sample from your tank, look at the colour, either nick you on the spot or put it back in the tank and let you go on your way. But now they have very neat, small portable mini labs to test your DERV at the roadside. Kerosene (28sec oil) is commercial/home heating oil which is known as 'kero' or 'paraffin'. It is straw/orange in colour, very clean burning (has a very low sulphur content) and economical to use, however it contains no lubricant and is thus not suitable as fuel for engines. Even when mixed 50/50 with DERV, HM C&E roadside checks can still detect it, using their new high-tech mini labs.
Some people fit a second "hidden tank" so they can use red derv undetected. Carefully routing the supply/return pipes out of view. Only to be caught because the HM C&E have dipped there main tank and its been green derv they have pulled out, reason being if derv stands about it absorbs water "hygroscopic" then if left for a long while green-blackish microbes grows in it. HM C&E staff are dipping cars & light vans all day & if they can't get a pipe down your fuel filler tube, alarm bells will ring.
Red diesel in a un-tampered state, will not harm a road going engine, most damage to pumps related to running on red diesel is caused by water or other contaminants being mixed with the fuel. The source normally can be traced back to dirty fuel containers/cans being used to store & transport the fuel. We have over the years removed some vile looking fluids from fuel tanks over the years! Red diesel stripped of its dye & additives will wax in cold weather, foam causing problems filling small auto fuel tanks and may wreck injection pumps due to the removal of lubricity agents.


King's Lynn Auto Diagnostics (http://www.remmington.plus.com)

[bazzw6]

i heard if they test for red they can tell @3 parts per million if you used it.
so my recknin is if you put 3 gallon of red in and 999997 gallon of white you'd just be in the clear ?????

[itsmeg]

i was talking to a guy the day and he said he filled his pug 406 hdi with red diesil and he said his car just gave up.
i have my self used it for a old diesil merc i had and it worked fine in that. a thought red diesil would work for every engine but do u think it dosnt work in hdi engines i know its not alowd to use but a was just wondering if its that thats caused his car to stop running no its just the same its just got a dy in it to let peeps know its not taxed
you can even put cooking oil in a diesil engine the only prob is it smals like fis and chips c ya itsmeg

[hippopig]

hdi is the spawn of the devil.....im a roadside mechanic and go to loads of dead hdi stuff.....had a hdi xsara that had been run on heating oil for around 20 miles....?1800 later i had it running again.....i didnt do it some twat down the road borrowed it for a trip then killed it