Satellite dish and motor recommendations

[DigitalVandal]

I have bought a VU+Duo2 and am extremely happy with it, all working very nicely on 28.2 with the minidish and LNB that was installed by previous supplier. I'm now wanting to see what the world of satellites has available for me so i'm looking for advice.

I've decided I want to go as big as I possibly can without having to worry about planning, so a 1m dish has been decided on. Which dish would you guys suggest? I would like it to be as light as possible, I was thinking (maybe misguidedly) that the lighter it is then less wear on the motor. And I'd like it to be black or dark grey. Gibertini, triax, technomate are names people have said. Some have said it needs to be elliptical. I'm getting more confused by the minute.

I have been looking at the alsat dark motor with the LCD display for around the ?50 mark, is this a good motor?

So yeah, any and all advice gratefully received.

[digicon]

Have a Read of this here: http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f11/new-sat-setup-301108/

[DigitalVandal]

Thank you for pointing me there, I had already read that hence the reason the alsat dark motor was pretty much already pencilled in but it gives a list of many dishes and LNB's and i'm really looking for an upto date recommendation based on my exact requirements of a 1m dish motorised. A list of opinions would be great.

I'd need more than a quad LNB so assuming an octo is the next option which one to go for? far too many available.

[mdt]

gibertini 1m dish and stab100 motor.. a good set of T+K,s with a pole is a must also. if you are using a octo lnb then obviously you can only watch whatever bird the dish is looking at. your choices are limited in octo lnbf,s but technomate do a good one although not cheap. regards mdt

[DigitalVandal]

Been thinking about the lnb situ and decided to leave mini dish up for other boxes and have a quad lnb for duo2 and bedroom box when I get it. Where can I get gibertini dish in uk? Most sell triax only.

[digicon]

Been thinking about the lnb situ and decided to leave mini dish up for other boxes and have a quad lnb for duo2 and bedroom box when I get it. Where can I get gibertini dish in uk? Most sell triax only.

Your better off importing the Gibertini as most of the UK sellers are High Priced, you can get one from Germany shipped within 3 days and save around ?20 as well try HM-SAT

[DigitalVandal]

Thanks for replies. I'll check into that site when I get home and can get chrome to translate it.

[digicon]

no need you click the Online shop in the top right hand corner and then click the English flag in the same corner job done

[DigitalVandal]

Doesn't seem to work on my iphone.

[DigitalVandal]

Well, I've had a good look at that site. Brilliant find digicon, seems very good value. Those stab motors cost a few pennies don't they lol.

Am I okay to link to that site to confirm I'm looking at the right items. Don't want to get it wrong. Thanks for your help guys, greatly appreciated.

[digicon]

your probably better with a Dark Motor to pair with the Gibby Dish first off they are cheaper and secondly you will have better options to return it to a UK supplier should it fail

[DigitalVandal]

Gibertini Antenne 100cm - Antennen - Gibertini | HM-Sat (http://www.hm-sat-shop.de/en/antennen-gibertini/gibertini-antenne-100cm.html)
Inverto Quad Black Ultra IDLB-QUDL40 0,2 dB - LNB - LNB Quattro Switch | HM-Sat (http://www.hm-sat-shop.de/en/lnb-lnb-quattro-switch/inverto-quad-black-ultra-idlb-qudl40-02-db.html)
Alsat Supreme Intelligent LED DiSEqC DarkMotor All Metal Gears (http://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/DiSEqC-Motors-Positioners/Alsat-Supreme-Intelligent-LED-DiSEqC-Dark-Motor-DarkMotor-All-Metal-Gears)

They the right items?

I don't intend on taking any of it down any time soon so I hope it lasts, that's why i'm wanting to get the best I can afford.

[shaunfree]

hi digitalvandal seen this on web http://www.campanasat.it/it/kit-impianti-motorizzati/63-kit-motor-100-cm-gibertini-allum-stab-100-smart-01db.html about ?135 with delivery to uk seems good value 4 a giberanti 1m plus stab motor,if it can be had cheaper iam shaw fellow peeps will point u in the right direction,cheers shaun

[DigitalVandal]

I was just about to buy the dish when I noticed that Gibertini do 3 different qualities of dish. 2 of which (L and X) are available at 100cm size. The X is apparently the superior dish of the 2. Could someone inform me if the one I've linked is the L or X as I can't work it out. Thanks.

[shaunfree]

HI Digitalvandal i did not no there was 3 different qualities of dish,so after looking (google)the x version looks alot dearer than the L versions,so at the price in your link i would say it is a L version but not 100%,if you contact seller (https://www.hm-sat-shop.de/en/kontakt.html) they should be able to let you no cheers shaun

[digicon]

Just get the standard version forget the SE and XP series the standard Gibertini is Fine and they are all Aluminium

[DigitalVandal]

Just had another look at the site and as you say, it is the L version in the link. I'm happy to take your advice Digicon and go with the cheaper one if you believe it to not be too much difference to the others.

[DigitalVandal]

I've received my dish and LNB and waiting on my motor to arrive. Couldn't believe it took 2 days from germany, amazing service. The dish has come with a load of bracketry and very difficult to follow instructions for the movement but then when I look at photos it seems the motor has a movement system too. Which parts do I use and is there any photo guides for putting the gibi 1m onto a dark motor as I can't find any on this or any other forum using the search system and google doesn't throw up anything close enough either.

[benny/9]

diseqc motors have more or less the same set up way
look at this for a idea on the set up
DiSEqC Motor Installation Tutorial | Motorised-Satellite-Uk.Com (http://motorised-satellite-uk.com/installation-setup-tutorial/)

[DigitalVandal]

I'm getting there. So much to take in. I've just learned something else that would probably be common sense but not to me. lol. It seems that the motor has only one input from a tuner to move it. Which is fine until tuner A is recording something on 28.2 then I want to move the dish using tuner B to another sat. I was also intending to have my upstairs receiver on the dish too, so how would I move the dish if I wanted to from that receiver? The quad LNB is looking quite pointless if I can only use 1 tuner on the motor. Just when everything was becoming clearer the fog has descended yet again.

[DigitalVandal]

Receiver 1 Tuner A fixed, Tuner B motorised. (when I get another twin tuner the motorised dish will be on C/D and fixed back on A/B)
Receiver 2 Tuner A fixed, Tuner B motorised. (I know that I can't move the dish from this only receive from the sat the dish is pointed at)

Lots of scenarios I have thought of but the biggest issue I can think of is if I want to watch a channel on, say 19.2, will receiver 2 know to use tuner B or will it just show a blank screen as tuner A is not pointed at the correct sat?

If there are any other pitfalls then please let me know. I'm more than a little disappointed that I cant get the dish to be moved by the 2 receivers but you live and learn.

[mdt]

[QUOTE=DigitalVandal;2254179


I'm more than a little disappointed that I cant get the dish to be moved by the 2 receivers but you live and learn.[/QUOTE]


if you use a polar mount/actuator and v-box its possible but you would need some sort of IR sender to control the v-box in the living room from the bedroom,regards mdt

[DigitalVandal]

Thanks for the reply. It would appear that not many people bother so there must be a good reason for that. cost and messing about i'm guessing.

[digicon]

It can be done but you would need the use of smart priority switches to aid you

[DigitalVandal]

Everything up and running now. Thank you all for your help. I can get some channels on 7.3w, is that normal?

[digicon]

Everything up and running now. Thank you all for your help. I can get some channels on 7.3w, is that normal?


On a 1m dish yes although dont expect to view them 24/7 due to the footprint

[DigitalVandal]

What time of day would 7.3W be most watchable? Breaks up a lot atm on some channels but not others. guessing some H and some V but not able to work out the difference? When I get a channel that is breaking up, my tv is constantly changing resolution and flashing. Not sure how to stop that happening as when it does happen I have less than a second inbetween flashes to try to get back to a channel that will display correctly and not trip the auto resoltion option. I have the box set to 1080p and running through a denon amp which is also set to 1080p.

[digicon]

Depends which Band and which polarity and the time of day, I cant tell you which ones as you are in a different area to myself.