468 Keypro III quick guide.

[MrSporty]

Ordered one of these units to give it a quick test. As per usual it turns up from China with absolutely no instructions whatsoever which wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't a different version to whats currently advertised.

After a bit of trial and error, I put together the following video to demonstrate the use of this version of the tool. I am cloning a 2006 Honda Civic.

https://vimeo.com/90460599

The basic procedure is this :

Setup machine with probe attached.

Initialize your 46C transponder chip. In the video you see it fails first time so i just rearrange it in the slot and its fine.

Reset your probe by pressing and holding the left hand button (probe antenna facing up) for a second or two. This resets the sniffed data to all FF's

Attach or hold the probe on your original key and insert into ignition. On the Honda, the chip is read on insertion and doesn't need to be turned. Also, I got lucky for the video and it sniffed the data on the very first time. Most times you will need to insert and remove the key a few times until the data is captured successfully.

Once captured, insert your original key in the slot and press crack. After a short while the unit will crack the encryption and read in all the original chips data. It will also at this stage show the original ISK.

Finally insert the 46C that was initialized and press write to write the data to your clone chip.

Done.


I show the chip working and then also show that the chip can be reinitialized back to blank. They appear to be reusable as I proceeded to test this already used chip on another vehicle and it worked fine.

[socrates66]

Excellent video, very didactic,

Thanks.

[lidons]

thanks.
it's a way to silca, rw4?

46c transponder, read with hitag, uses lsk-hi and lsk-lo ff ff ff ff - ff ff (crypton virgin)
I tried this same transponder clone with AVDI, FVDI, zedbull not being possible. cloning.
this info from transponder 46C, I think the TPX4 jma encryptado I have a code in the LSK pages, only to open it to the tph-cloner and so to clone,
would be good to know a crypton pages TPX4 and to use this transponder 46C in zedbull and TRS5000.
because 46C is totally virgin ff ff ff ff all pages.

another question.? 4C also cloned? texas fixed.

[MrSporty]

Although the machines main screen shows that it supports 4D and 48 cloning, neither of them are currently operational (No shock really!)

The 4D cloner fails trying to read any standard 4D chips. The 48 just pops up a windows "Coming Soon"

I have disassembled the machine and will provide a series of breakdown pictures if anyone would like them. Its quite a neat bit of kit for the price.

[whiskeyman]

looks good sporty

there seems to be 3 different chips available for it
48c
46c
id46as

what does all these chips do?
why 3 different if it only does id46 cloning?

[Atex31]

I thought it did basic ID48 too.


Hence the name: 468 (46/48).

[MrSporty]

The 48 cloning is definately not there. The "TAG48" menu option does allow some interaction with ID48 chips (I read a SEAT glass ID48 with it).

Looking at the internals of the machine it does appear that it could indeed support both 4D and 46 cloning. There is a daughterboard that houses the FPGA used to do the 46 cracking and it has an empty SD card slot and 2 serial config devices, one of which is currently non functional.

I will post further investigations in this thread.

[MrSporty]

looks good sporty

there seems to be 3 different chips available for it
48c
46c
id46as

what does all these chips do?
why 3 different if it only does id46 cloning?

I ordered a batch of each of those chips with the machine.

The 46C is a blank cloneable ID46 chip. Its CID is factory defaulted to FFFFFFFF and can be re-writen by this machine.

The 46AS as far as I can tell is a knock off of a standard ID46 chip (i.e they work exactly like a Philips/NXP !D46). The ones i got all had standard random CID's, the default 4F4E4D494B52 factory key and were in password mode.

The 48C chips never arrived .. After waiting for 2 weeks the bullshit chinese company i bought them off told me they were having "factory supply issues" :P .. I just told them to ship extra 46C chips instead.

[Demetrius]

Can these chips be used on tango?

[lidons]

it may ID46 clone biphase mitsubishi ??? :hmmmm:

[Cyborg3]

what type of power supply is used to charge battery and was it included?

[MrSporty]

The main unit and the probe both charge from a standard USB connector. They both have a LIPO and associated charging circuitry embedded.

[Cyborg3]

Thanks am ordering one today will keep you posted on how it performs on USA vehicles especially chrysler.

[Cyborg3]

Got it tryed it on chrysler seems to crack and clone but will not start! Has several other issues antenna area not large enough to except remote key has to dissamble to get it to read only came with gather method not method of cycling key. All in all not worth much for USA application this was purchased from HKlocksmith. Save your money don't buy this if you need to clone chrysler 46 products. Hopes this helps someone else not waste money.

[Cyborg3]

Ok now it gets weird on previous post was using a remote head key as key to be cloned and it would not start the car however when I cloned a non remote head key(that had been programmed) to the same car it started and seems to be working just fine. Also when it cracked the key it read the same data for both the remote head key and the regular key. WTF

[Reality]

Would love to hear a solution to the above problem. With Chrysler restricting pin codes in the US, this would benefit a lot of us when trying to add additional keys.

[ninja123]

just ordered one of these, looks like will make light work of spare keys on fiats etc, any one done fiat with this tool yet?

ninja

[drivesure]

failed on three vehicles so far where tph cloner worked 100% - chev utillity 2013, peugeot 206, peugeot 307.

[Faraday]

You have two types of transponders for id46, 46c and 46as

[Cyborg3]

does using 46as verses 46c change its performance or abilities? It seems to clone true 46 chips fine but has difficulty with electronic 46 chips (ones on circuit boards). Once cloned so far chips seem to be of good construction better than tpx glass chips in my test subject.

[Faraday]

Here is video for 206 http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=40vxEHdfRiM

[whiskeyman]

Tested on jeep today
remote head id46

fail
car start then died
then ignition off then on wont turn

[Cyborg3]

Does the cracked data it shows contain any data that could give us a pin code on any type vehicle?

[whiskeyman]

Tested on bmw motorbike key today
id46 again
could not crack

fail

[Cyborg3]

tryed 2009 honda accord remote key said it cracked it but failed to start. This is a POS waste of money!!!!

[whiskeyman]

yep biggest load of crap

[MrSporty]

What transponders are you guys trying to write to ?

I tested this on a 2009 Civic TypeR and a 2006 Civic for my video, both worked fine. I'm not by any means saying there aren't any implementation errors but I know it does work fine on hondas.

[testourii]

worked fine for:
peugeot partner phase 2, VW Toureg, honda civic,

not worked for BMW cars

[Cyborg3]

46c the ones they said worked with it.

[drivesure]

i tried on 4 cars - all failed - even failed on honda civic 2007 -

[totalkey]

How can it be? For some civic working and for some not ?


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[shitad]

Got one today and tested it on a 2006 Suzuki Grand Vitara, key clone ok no problem at all.
it was easy 4 Basic steps

1. Read- original working key
2. Sniff -original key in the ignition (you may have to do it a few times)
3. Crack-after sniffing put back original key in holder and press crack, wait till its done.
4. Write - once crack is successfull put clone chip into holder and press write
Done !!!!!!!!!!

Will test it on more models in the comming days

[Cyborg3]

Are you using 46c or 46as chips could those doing testing please include this info. also if it actually will start car the reason I say this is I have had it say crack success but it will not start the car. I personelly would love to get this thing working real good as I hate tpx glass chips and when it does work the chips are more robust.This info should help us all really check this thing out. Has anyone been able to get the susposed update the instructions talk about? Thanks for all the continued input.

[drivesure]

if you use 46c and initialise - then it is ok - if you try to intitialise 46as chips it fail - i probably have the worst machine produced - it fails on everything i tried so far....we call it a play-station

[totalkey]

if you use 46c and initialise - then it is ok - if you try to intitialise 46as chips it fail - i probably have the worst machine produced - it fails on everything i tried so far....we call it a play-station

What you mean m8 ? You can copy on 46c and not 46as? Or you mean if original key got 7936as so it can't be copy?




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[paul_12345]

I think the 46as is not intended as a copy chip its a pcf7936 knock off, you need 46c

[shitad]

I use 46C and yes car starts ok every time

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[totalkey]

I use 46C and yes car starts ok every time

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So you success to copy all 46 keys that you been tried ?


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[shitad]

Have to read my post? I said I did. A. SUZUKI. MY ENGLISH may be poor A mean one

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[Cyborg3]

has anyone tried using a 46as without initalizing it as a step reason I say that is it reads blank all ff's to begin with?

[shitad]

Tested on a 2009 BMW M3, car started without and promlems. I know nothing much of this tool I just decided to buy one and play with it to see what it can and cannot do, so this is the second car I tried it with and so far so good.

[totalkey]

Tested on a 2009 BMW M3, car started without and promlems. I know nothing much of this tool I just decided to buy one and play with it to see what it can and cannot do, so this is the second car I tried it with and so far so good.

Can you explain what chip to buy ? 46c or s


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[paul_12345]

Can you explain what chip to buy ? 46c or s


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look a few post up, you actually quoted him saying which chips to use

[totalkey]

I quote but still not understand what chip to use


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[paul_12345]

I quote but still not understand what chip to use


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doesn't him saying 46c clear it up??

[totalkey]

Yes he said sir


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[paul_12345]

Yes he said sir


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also I believe your confusion is over them selling 46as chips described as for 468 aswell as 46c, but only the 46c chips are described as clone or can be copied, I believe the 46as chips are only a cheaper version of pcf7936 and the only reason they state for 468 machine is because they probably have to be initialised by the 468 to make people buy the machine if they want the cheaper chips

[shitad]

I also think I read somewhere that 46as chip are one time write, but the 46C is not, I have now use the same 46C chip tested on 2 different car so far

[totalkey]

Good explanation guys
Now it's very clear

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[totalkey]

What is the best price for this machine ?


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[testourii]

I bought it at $250

[Cyborg3]

shitad does your screens on 468 look like the ones posted by Mr sporty or are they different? Sounds like yours is working the way instructions say after an update not like the one in Mr. sportys video which is what I got. Reason I say that is the only read is on the first screen of mine just like in Mr. sportys video. Just trying to figure out what I am doing wrong or if my unit is not like yours.

[whiskeyman]

is there a new update for this machine?

[MrSporty]

The adverts for this machine mention a "upgrade v1.02 New. Bin" file. TBH I think its just marketing bullshit as most are just resellers.

[whiskeyman]

so far been heep of junk

[shitad]

shitad does your screens on 468 look like the ones posted by Mr sporty or are they different? Sounds like yours is working the way instructions say after an update not like the one in Mr. sportys video which is what I got. Reason I say that is the only read is on the first screen of mine just like in Mr. sportys video. Just trying to figure out what I am doing wrong or if my unit is not like yours.


See me screen


I can read key on the main and read is ok, if I click on Copy46 and try to read from there it will not read. I have to connect the sniffer and initialised then read, usually I get all FF. Once I fet that then I do the sniffing

[MrSporty]

See me screen


I can read key on the main and read is ok, if I click on Copy46 and try to read from there it will not read. I have to connect the sniffer and initialised then read, usually I get all FF. Once I fet that then I do the sniffing

Thats beacuse on the second screen (after pressing Copy46) the "Read.1" button is to read sniffed data from the probe, it is NOT to read anything from the key.

[testourii]

The adverts for this machine mention a "upgrade v1.02 New. Bin" file. TBH I think its just marketing bullshit as most are just resellers.

there is no updates for this copy machine at moment

[Cyborg3]

on screen shitad is showing if you read key by pressing the blue read key on top of machine not on touch screen mine says welcome to crack after reading and iding key if you press the blue write button on the top of the machine not on touch screen it keeps advancing through menus allowing sniffing and attemptimg cracking I tryed my chrysler remote key this way it got to about 50% and failed. First time I tryed it this way but it seems to have trouble with electronic board chips reading them. Someone else may want to try this and see what they get.

[shitad]

on screen shitad is showing if you read key by pressing the blue read key on top of machine not on touch screen mine says welcome to crack after reading and iding key if you press the blue write button on the top of the machine not on touch screen it keeps advancing through menus allowing sniffing and attemptimg cracking I tryed my chrysler remote key this way it got to about 50% and failed. First time I tryed it this way but it seems to have trouble with electronic board chips reading them. Someone else may want to try this and see what they get.

I never use those 2 blue buttons because I have not figured them out as yet
Let talk about the Copy46 Menu options because thats where all the 46 Copy function is.

Once connect sniffer and then turn on tool select Copy46, notice the option are numbered 1-3.

What I do first is initialise the Clone 46C chip and select yes to GMT46, it usually comes back saying OK then I follow steps 1 to 3

Step 1 READ - I read the original Key then Sniff the original key in the ignition. Usually when I read I get all FF and then when I sniff I get data.
(On my next testing I will READ without the original key and see if it works. Cyborg3 I am not sure this works but I will try next time and post result )


Step 2 Crack - I simply put original key in tool and press the crack button and wait for success

Step 3 Write - I put clone chip that I initialised in tool and press write and wait for OK

Done
Start car.

[Cyborg3]

Thanks shitad I am glad it is working for you! Wish mine would work as good maybe its USA cars it don't work on who knows all I can say is this will be my last purchase from hklocksmithing unless they can get me an update that makes this work!!! These sellers should at least test these things to make sure they work before selling stuff. I have nothing against people trying to make new and original tools and would like to encourage them to do so but this is nothing that should be on the market from what I see.

[whiskeyman]

I never use those 2 blue buttons because I have not figured them out as yet
Let talk about the Copy46 Menu options because thats where all the 46 Copy function is.

Once connect sniffer and then turn on tool select Copy46, notice the option are numbered 1-3.

What I do first is initialise the Clone 46C chip and select yes to GMT46, it usually comes back saying OK then I follow steps 1 to 3

Step 1 READ - I read the original Key then Sniff the original key in the ignition. Usually when I read I get all FF and then when I sniff I get data.
(On my next testing I will READ without the original key and see if it works. Cyborg3 I am not sure this works but I will try next time and post result )


Step 2 Crack - I simply put original key in tool and press the crack button and wait for success

Step 3 Write - I put clone chip that I initialised in tool and press write and wait for OK

Done
Start car.

i do this to the letter
no joy
the crack function goes up a certain percentage then fail

[MrSporty]

Ive had the crack function fail a few times before. Its usually down to the positioning of the original key in the slot.

The probe stores the sniffed data until you use the onboard button to wipe it so the data can be reused any time. Just reposition the original key and try cracking again.

[whiskeyman]

tried that many times

[shitad]

Tested on a 2010 Mitsubishi Lancer yesterday and was successfull. The original key although it sits into the tool very well, could not complete the crack process until I position the key with the side the chip is on sideways into the clone tool. This I figure is the most common problem with the tool. The antenna of the tool is very weak so those original key where the chip is further away it can be a bit tricky to get it to see the original chip during the crack proccess.
I am happy because I cannt find tool other than MVP Pro to add keys to new Suzuki and Mitsubishi, so if I can clone these for now its a good start.

[smilos]

Tested on a 2006 Renault ClioIII and was successfull. Chip is 46c.

[softpoirl]

Nissan Pathfinder 2006 2 buttons remote key not working

[smilos]

Renault Kangoo 2004 not working.

[paul_12345]

I got one of these to play with, tried on a vivaro massive fail;

decided to open it up.

this has a 46 decoder board on the bottom cyclone mcu with two 32gb sd cards - pretty much same as the cn900 decoder which has 3x 16gb memory cards;

The main board has an stm32f103zet6, this board has both PCF7991AT and TMS3705 basestation chips controlled by relays;

the decoder board also has a PCF7991AT also with a relay;

I tried removing the decoder board and ran the device, clicked on crack and it starts counting with no transponder!!

so I suspect the two basestations are used for 'tag' options etc then when you crack id46 it must transfer control to the decoder board using its own basestation, it must then wait for a response and the progress bar is pure fake as it cant be getting any real feedback; and when the decoder board is in the device and no transponder it says error straight away.

So the problem seems to lie in the decoder as it always seems to id fine on the 'tag' section.

also note that the antenna is pretty close to the 2 basestations, but some distance from the decoder basestation

[Faraday]

I bought this because I thought it will work with id46 but every time I'm trying to use this P.O.S. it simply doesn't work.

[Faraday]

Some pictures 276197276198

[paul_12345]

some more observations the antenna is very fussy and the transponder has to be almost exactly in the centre (left to right) but has quite good range back and forth.

Ford glass 4d are good reading almost anywhere on the centre line.

Ford carbon are a bit more fussy but YS-01 are really bad they need to be in the middle of the oval and AT LEAST 2cm higher than the reader and upto 4-5cm higher.

So clearly theres a error with coil design, I will try id46 cracking again later with the coil in the key positioned centre and raised.

Also worth noting I copied a glass ford 4d60 onto a YS-01 transponder ok (with ys-01 held 2cm higher) confirm serial was correct and tried a challenge/response which was the same.

ford carbon id4d 63 40bit also cracks and copies onto ys-01

[totalkey]

A bit off topic , I heard jma trs can copy 4d63 80 bit , it's true?


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[paul_12345]

A bit off topic , I heard jma trs can copy 4d63 80 bit , it's true?


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very much doubt it! they probably mean copy 40bit onto 80bit chips;


Note: about ts-01 if you crack a unlocked chip AAAAA's it seems to corrupt the 3rd digit but seems to work fine when locked tested against cn900+4d cloner

[delek]

Tested on a 2005 Opel astra H and was successfull. Chip is 46c.

[shitad]

Tested one a 2008 Peugeot 207 and was successful but had to open original flip remote key so I could get main board closer into the antenna. I was able to do it without the battery half of the remote key.

[autoTkey]

I did my Peugeot 206(2001) with the 468 OK!

Does anybody know what the RIGHT button is for and why does it have a switch to turn the lights on? I mean on the sniffer board.

[sanchos]

where best to buy transponders to 468

[reks13]

How to update it?

[sanchos]

Tested Peugeot Biper 2010 r Works Fine
id 46c

[Krittanu]

Duplicate ID46c for Mitsubishi Pajaro, Isuzu DMax, Chevy Corolada, HONDA Bike CB1000 works fine

[delek]

Opel corsa D, 2007 ok.

[autoTkey]

I did my Peugeot 206(2001) with the 468 OK!

Does anybody know what the RIGHT button is for and why does it have a switch to turn the lights on? I mean on the sniffer board.

I think I got it - the Right button probably should be used to check whether there is sniffed DATA inside the sniffer-board memory. If there is - a green led should flash. If the memory is empty it should flash a red light.

And the switch must be used to turn the board on with it's internal battery so you can use it without the cable(maybe because it's short).

[Faraday]

Citroen C5 2004 - ok

[aassfour]

i ve received this piece of crap and decided to test it on a TIIDA 2009, i m using 46c chip, at first attempt i sniffed the key then went to crack it and it wasnt easy to place the side of the transponder after trying many times, it says its cracked so i put 46c chip write it and cars don t run so i failed
i tried to de the same procedure again but this time it refuses to crack i tried to place the transponder everywhere but no joy , it reaches about 8% and gives Crack error or signature and random number not matched ....
when i attempt to read the transponder i get success once every 10 tries and each time it gives me different number
and last and not least , the battery is shit it took the whole day to charge and it doesnt last 4 minutes
Source of my tool HKLOCK

[totalkey]

i ve received this piece of crap and decided to test it on a TIIDA 2009, i m using 46c chip, at first attempt i sniffed the key then went to crack it and it wasnt easy to place the side of the transponder after trying many times, it says its cracked so i put 46c chip write it and cars don t run so i failed
i tried to de the same procedure again but this time it refuses to crack i tried to place the transponder everywhere but no joy , it reaches about 8% and gives Crack error or signature and random number not matched ....
when i attempt to read the transponder i get success once every 10 tries and each time it gives me different number
and last and not least , the battery is shit it took the whole day to charge and it doesnt last 4 minutes
Source of my tool HKLOCK
Thanks for sharing! Sorry for you that your tool not working

[Weasel3]

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I have this machine myself. Just played with it. But found it difficult to use due the lack of no user manual.
However I have found a 14 page manual on this machine. English and CN. I have it PDF and word. Not able to upload documents here? Or is it just me who haven't figured it out yet.
Her it is in pictures instead.
Seems that it is a limit on 5 pictures or filesize. I do it in several operations.

[Weasel3]

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[Weasel3]

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[whiskeyman]

i ve received this piece of crap and decided to test it on a TIIDA 2009, i m using 46c chip, at first attempt i sniffed the key then went to crack it and it wasnt easy to place the side of the transponder after trying many times, it says its cracked so i put 46c chip write it and cars don t run so i failed
i tried to de the same procedure again but this time it refuses to crack i tried to place the transponder everywhere but no joy , it reaches about 8% and gives Crack error or signature and random number not matched ....
when i attempt to read the transponder i get success once every 10 tries and each time it gives me different number
and last and not least , the battery is shit it took the whole day to charge and it doesnt last 4 minutes
Source of my tool HKLOCK


am with you there mate
junk

[herfemp]

Hi,

Somebody want to sell their 'POS', I would be happy to play with it. Pm Me

Thanks

[godfathertre]

i have 37 transponder chips for this machine as was going to get one but was out of stock im in uk if somebody is interested in chips pm me thanks

sorry but will only post in uk thank you.

[Bllinda]

And how is it possible to explain .... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR1p4zxVSUg)


I have this machine myself. Just played with it. But found it difficult to use due the lack of no user manual.
However I have found a 14 page manual on this machine. English and CN. I have it PDF and word. Not able to upload documents here? Or is it just me who haven't figured it out yet.
Her it is in pictures instead.
Seems that it is a limit on 5 pictures or filesize. I do it in several operations.

[Weasel3]

And how is it possible to explain .... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR1p4zxVSUg)

I have experienced the same fault. I restarted the machine. And it worked the next time.
Just made a Honda key now.

[Bllinda]

as this video I found by accident ....
after the restart This fault disappears?
Is there a mechanical failure?

[Weasel3]

as this video I found by accident ....
after the restart This fault disappears?
Is there a mechanical failure?

Used the same chip one more time.
I did not "sniff" enough, and had to do the procedure again when it happened. After I just had exit the program.
After restart and sniffed some extra times, until it did not change value when turning key.
Did the cracking and then write.

Print this out, and store it in your 468PRO toolbox.
I use the tip from ~~~~ad user on the forum. Page 4 on this thread.

I never use those 2 blue buttons because I have not figured them out as yet
Let talk about the Copy46 Menu options because thats where all the 46 Copy function is.

Once connect sniffer and then turn on tool select Copy46, notice the option are numbered 1-3.

What I do first is initialise the Clone 46C chip and select yes to GMT46, it usually comes back saying OK then I follow steps 1 to 3

Step 1 READ - I read the original Key then Sniff the original key in the ignition. Usually when I read I get all FF and then when I sniff I get data.

Step 2 Crack - I simply put original key in tool and press the crack button and wait for success

Step 3 Write - I put clone chip that I initialised in tool and press write and wait for OK

Done
Start car.

[paul_12345]

Used the same chip one more time.
I did not "sniff" enough, and had to do the procedure again when it happened. After I just had exit the program.
After restart and sniffed some extra times, until it did not change value when turning key.
Did the cracking and then write.

Print this out, and store it in your 468PRO toolbox.
I use the tip from ~~~~ad user on the forum. Page 4 on this thread.

I never use those 2 blue buttons because I have not figured them out as yet
Let talk about the Copy46 Menu options because thats where all the 46 Copy function is.

Once connect sniffer and then turn on tool select Copy46, notice the option are numbered 1-3.

What I do first is initialise the Clone 46C chip and select yes to GMT46, it usually comes back saying OK then I follow steps 1 to 3

Step 1 READ - I read the original Key then Sniff the original key in the ignition. Usually when I read I get all FF and then when I sniff I get data.
(On my next testing I will READ without the original key and see if it works. Cyborg3 I am not sure this works but I will try next time and post result )


Step 2 Crack - I simply put original key in tool and press the crack button and wait for success

Step 3 Write - I put clone chip that I initialised in tool and press write and wait for OK

Done
Start car.



I think alot of these have faulty hardware.

I would not bother testing the sniffer without the original key, as the key sends the id then the car transmits a random number+the random number encryted - this encryption is seeded with the id of the transponder. it would be the most stupid mistake to not whitelist the transponder

[dtip]

Has anyone tried this or simillar (handy baby) cloner on fiats with precoded id46? I saw some video working on Fiat 500 L .

I had problem today with Fiat Ducato 2011 after 2 succesfull sniffing and failed cracking a tried to sniff and collect data again and failed. What i noticed is that when i bring antenna to sniff and turn on ignition it fails to collect data and also turns ON immo light like there is no traponder in key. When i turn ignition ON without antenna everything is ok. So i am confused how did i collect data first two times and then i could not anymore. what did i do wrong?

Also i have a lot experience with this 468 machine, my tip is to always recharge battery to full before job. In my experience it cracks key alot faster. I dont get why is it like that but that is my experience.

What i did so far without problems:
All Hyundais and Kias that i tried - all kinds from 2002 to 2013 (coupe/tiburon. getz, ceed, elantra...)
Peugeots - early 206, 307 even 208
Renault clio 2
Few hondas
Iveco Daily (same as Fiat Daily) YEAR 2006 OR 2007 i think, i remember it was regular double sided cuted key

I had all succes with this machine with more or less strugle until today, does anyone have idea why i could not collect data after two tries?

[godfathertre]

why not try turning original key only once than next try turn key again with sniffer and do this 8 times with each of the keys could be the alarm immobiliser interfering i have seen a video of somebody doing this on id 48 cloning this is to stop alarm or

immobiliser from coming on and to collect full data worth a try .

[dtip]

@godfathertre

Thanks mate, how do you mean "with each of the keys" . I have only one remote key for this one. You mean 8 times to turn on with anntetna and original key? Do you have link to video i think i have the same problem...

[godfathertre]

yes put original key first turn 8 times if you have only one key cant do this sometimes on new cars immobiliser stop sniffer from cloning key silca at the moment have this problem with volvo id48 cloning that takes hours plus is car immobiliser stopping from

collecting data try to take key out with each turn and leaving a couple of minutes between ignition turns and see how you go on failing that could be your handy baby and makesure battery is full on handybaby and on car .

[dtip]

i don't use handy baby i use 468 key pro but it is same principe, i also thought that it was my device problem or battery (was on half) and i had hyundai next to it in garage and tried and worked without problem. I dont have that fiat here but i will try tomorrow. I was confused that i was able to collect data first two times and after that could not, like it triggered some protections i dont know, i am not sure also if i would be able to copy it even if i collect data if it is fiat precoded id46...

[Faraday]

468 is piece of junk for me I bought it 2 years ago and it is laying on my shelf I use trs5000 instead and it never let me down

[dtip]

@Faradey

As i said before, i really had no bigger problems with it, i had almost 100% succes until yesterday....And yes usually it needs to crack a bit longer and few times to collect data in order to crack succesfully , but since i bought it second hand (previous owner used it for his own 3 cars) and payed it around 200 eur i am really satisfied. As all chinese products you need to have patiente and time to work with it :)

[dtip]

Anyone had experience in cloning newer Opels/Vauxalls like Astra J and Insignia ?

[paul_12345]

Anyone had experience in cloning newer Opels/Vauxalls like Astra J and Insignia ?

I doubt it seeing how you one of the few lucky people that brought this tool and had it work.. most couldn't get it working at all.

[dtip]

I doubt it seeing how you one of the few lucky people that brought this tool and had it work.. most couldn't get it working at all.

Well just reading this thread from begining more people succesed on opels than fail. One failed on Vivaro and two succesed on Astra H and Corsa D

[paul_12345]

Well just reading this thread from begining more people succesed on opels than fail. One failed on Vivaro and two succesed on Astra H and Corsa D

Yes some got 1 or 2 to work and many fails everyone else gave up trying

[Weasel3]

384615

I got this one. This is the latest version. There are some earlier models in black and blue. Some have not the hole to put in the transponders. Just one large hole.
I noticed that the coil ring is very sensible. Have to put transponder in the small holes. Not in the larger key hole. Will not sense the transponder, when it is there.

Battery is good on mine.


But I read this is an earlier model from the C-Bay / Handy B manufacturer. From the same factory?

So I guess it better to buy this one (Handy), these days. And get more options.

If so would be nice to get same updates to this tool as well.
Make the ID48 to work and 4D too. Which it is supposed to do.

ID46 is the only thing that work on this one.

[paul_12345]

384615

I got this one. This is the latest version. There are some earlier models in black and blue. Some have not the hole to put in the transponders. Just one large hole.
I noticed that the coil ring is very sensible. Have to put transponder in the small holes. Not in the larger key hole. Will not sense the transponder, when it is there.

Battery is good on mine.


But I read this is an earlier model from the C-Bay / Handy B manufacturer. From the same factory?

So I guess it better to buy this one (Handy), these days. And get more options.

If so would be nice to get same updates to this tool as well.
Make the ID48 to work and 4D too. Which it is supposed to do.

ID46 is the only thing that work on this one.

well 4d is the only thing that worked on mine... as I posted before you have to hold the transponder an inch or two higher than the coil to clone 4d.

[dtip]

well 4d is the only thing that worked on mine... as I posted before you have to hold the transponder an inch or two higher than the coil to clone 4d.

How did you cloned 4D mate?? When i click on 4d i am getting "Coming Soon..." pop up and that's it? Mine is same later version like in photo above.

even chinese descriptions says it cant copy it...

384639

[drivesure]

mine is paperweight with lcd display.....complete crap

[whiskeyman]

Ageed

mine sits in a corner to hold my ashtray

[paul_12345]

How did you cloned 4D mate?? When i click on 4d i am getting "Coming Soon..." pop up and that's it? Mine is same later version like in photo above.

even chinese descriptions says it cant copy it...

384639

Maybe mines on a older firmware hence wont copy id46... says coming soon on id48.

It cracked 4D quicker than my cn900 with cloner box on several chips I tried.

[dtip]

Maybe mines on a older firmware hence wont copy id46... says coming soon on id48.

It cracked 4D quicker than my cn900 with cloner box on several chips I tried.

Ahhh yes you are right , mine says that too when i go on ID48 copy option....i did not even tried 4D lol , i will have to try it :)

[Weasel3]

ID46

I use cable connected. Then I see directly each read on the screen.

According to the manual it is 3 different modes to read out the data.


Without cable - key sensor - - have to put it back in the machine to register the readings.

With cable - key sensor - - see directly the reading in the screen.


From manual:
A: Collection off line collected
B: USB collected data( direct drive from car copy machine)
C: When it off line collected (after off line collected then connect USB put the data and signature copy machine.

And also there is some kind of upgrade software. Maybe on PC?

To upgrade to this one.
upgrade v1.02 New. Bin

Not sure how to find which version I got either.

Holding the 4D one inch higher did work. Does not sense. But I can place it in on of the holes to get a reading. It cracks to 100% and then says "Crack failure".

ID48 coming soon.

[dtip]

@Weasel3

Yeah you can connect antenna directly using cable and get reading of collected data on screen real time. Or pull microswitch on antenna and turn leds on without connecting to unit and sniff data, then you need to put antenna in coil and click READ and you will have sniffed data readed.
Did you used it on some of opel/vauxall or fiat?

As for update it is just chinesse marketing, there is no any update....

[Weasel3]

opel/vauxall or fiat not tested yet.

[Weasel3]

I did take a look at my device yesterday.
If the Handy Baby developers is also behind the 468PRO. Why cant they make this tool updateable with their own SW. And the benefits developed from the Handy Cbay tool.
And maybe people who bought the tool. Who have problems to get it working properly, can get it solved as well.

There is a price difference in the chip. This could be the reason. They earn a lot more on the Handy.