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caveman_nige
12th June, 2009, 12:39 AM
Sending letters to persistent pirates will not stop them copying, suggests research.
Only 33% of those receiving a letter from their ISP would stop pirating content, found a survey carried out by legal firm Wiggin.
However, it found 80% would stop if the letter were followed by action such as cutting net connections.
The finding comes a week before the release of a UK government report aimed at tackling web piracy.
The research, commissioned by media lawyers Wiggin, questioned more than 1,500 UK consumers about their changing digital media habits.
On June 16, the government is widely expected to publish the final version of the Carter Report.
Among the topics considered by the wide-ranging report will be recommendations that ISPs investigate "technical solutions" to piracy which could involve slowing down connection speeds for unrepentant pirates.
"A letter would not be enough," said Alexander Ross, partner in the media and technology group at Wiggin. "It does take an ultimate sanction."
Cash for content
The survey also found that there could be a lucrative market for ISPs if they did changed their flat rates for prices based on usage.
Keen consumers of video, online games would pay a premium to maintain their access to these sorts of content, said Mr Ross.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45891000/jpg/_45891450_cost-bbc226.jpg.jpg Media consumption habits are changing radically, suggests the research

Men aged 20-34 asked in the survey said they would pay ?48 per month for such media. Women aged 25-34 would pay up to ?39 per month.
On average, suggests the research, web users would pay ?26 per month to keep access to their favourite firm of online content.
"The suggestion is that if ISPs develop content services of their own and tier their access there are ready and willing customers for it," said Mr Ross.
In line with the interest in web content, the survey revealed strong interest, 7% of those questioned, in watching them on family TV sets.
The appeal of this crossed age divides, found the survey, with 77% of males and 61% of women aged 45-54 keen to do so.
Also popular were on-demand TV services. Among those questioned, 46% said they were occasional and regular users of the BBC iPlayer. Up from 13% in 2008. Similarly, 4OD use was up from 16% to 28% and ITVPlayer up from 12% to 25%.
"The distinction between the sit back experience of scheduled broadcasting and the sit forward experience of on demand access is becoming ever more blurred, and consumers are driving the convergence," said Mr Ross.
However, 49% of those questioned said they thought it was currently too difficult to connect up a TV and PC to get at net content.
"Internet on the main television is set to become a mass market reality within a short period," said Russell Hart, boss of Entertainment Media Research which carried out the survey for Wiggin.
Though, he added, makers of TVs had to be sure their products were cheap enough and easy to use if this potential market was to be tapped.


Source: BBC NEWS | Technology | Pirates 'ignore' warning letters (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8091107.stm)

chroma
12th June, 2009, 01:28 AM
deep packet inspection will be pushed through the back door

alunfennell
12th June, 2009, 02:48 AM
I am sure most of us will start using Proxy servers to bypass our local ISP if indeed they do try stoping content coming threw, the web is to big and most of the content been downloaded is coming from Pay websites that we subscribe to anyway, nobody is going to pay more to a ISP for the privilage of downloading from a pay server that hosts content your downloading from..

If Goverments across the world see this as a issue they need to track back the hosts and deal with them (like they did with Pirates-bay) dont bring us the public or ISP subscribers into it .... (All they want to do is screw us for more money)...

If there is half a chance of getting something for free on the web, been human we will find it and use it, cut of the head a you will stop it ! but cut off the toe nails (us subscribers) it will always be there to find...maybe a little harder but still there.........

Piracy ! I say clean up the web somewhat from stupid ~~~~ sites, popups and Adult dateing websites which can be found on every webpage you open (if they cant deal with this how will they ever deal with Piracy

We dont live in China ! Do we ?

Regards:
Alun

tommy t spanner
12th June, 2009, 10:27 PM
I am sure most of us will start using Proxy servers to bypass our local ISP if indeed they do try stoping content coming threw, the web is to big and most of the content been downloaded is coming from Pay websites that we subscribe to anyway, nobody is going to pay more to a ISP for the privilage of downloading from a pay server that hosts content your downloading from..

If Goverments across the world see this as a issue they need to track back the hosts and deal with them (like they did with Pirates-bay) dont bring us the public or ISP subscribers into it .... (All they want to do is screw us for more money)...

If there is half a chance of getting something for free on the web, been human we will find it and use it, cut of the head a you will stop it ! but cut off the toe nails (us subscribers) it will always be there to find...maybe a little harder but still there.........

Piracy ! I say clean up the web somewhat from stupid ~~~~ sites, popups and Adult dateing websites which can be found on every webpage you open (if they cant deal with this how will they ever deal with Piracy

We dont live in China ! Do we ?

Regards:
Alun

Not geograpically no,but we may as well do, they the government ect want the internet to become just a means of distribution of t.v broadcasts,and other crap,and also seek to censor the www (http://www. (decide)(decide what we should see or not see) which will kill the net,check out the following links to find out what some of the plans maybe : Blackout Europe | Defend our right to an open and universal Internet in 2009 (http://www.blackouteurope.eu/index.html)

UK.gov thinks internet should be run like BSkyB ? The Register (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/12/subscription_only_internet/)

Tax Google to help the BBC, say ministers | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1176857/Tax-Google-help-BBC-say-ministers.html)

• View topic - BBC plan new licence fee for iPlayer (http://www.tvlicensing.biz/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3175)

chroma
14th June, 2009, 12:27 AM
not possable with DPI gear im afraid.

your connection goes from your modem to the ISP's equipment (for DSL your connection goes from the modem, down the telephone line, to the PSTN where it gets unbundled and fed into the DSLAM moving on into the internet) Cable/DOCSIS is slightly different however the premise is exactly the same.

Now a Deep packet inspector will be installed between the DSLAM and everything else, so theres no way to bypass it, connections will be monitored before ever leaving the exchanges towards the internet. It would route through that before it gets to a proxy.

In a nutshell a DP inspector reads EVERY PACKET sent and recieved by you and its contents, so the ISP (or whomever owns the equipment) can see exactly what your doing at any given moment.
Even if the contents are encrypted they can still see routing information like ports and destinations which will no doubt be checked against an organic list of known nasties like torrents etc.
There are plenty of tell tale signs of piracy and its fairly easy to spot in a linup of connections.

No way to bypass the system, no more privacy online.
I wish i was just being paranoid but this is already happening from companies like NebuAd over in the states and a simmilar company called Phorm over this side of the pond.
The canuks have been dealing with nightmare communication systems for years.