View Full Version : Fresh Newbie with no idea !!
t10000
24th June, 2009, 08:19 PM
Hi all,
I decided 2 weeks ago to puchase a Black box (500s) but with no manual i am finding it hard to pick up the forums lingo. for a start the screen that presents its self has a large DK on the front is this what you call an Image ? If so is this the image that can download the scambled pics from a satellite ? or have i got to some how FLASH a new image for this to work ? I have worked out how to get some unscrambled pics onto the screen but no unsrambled. I keep seeing threads about Addons but none actually explaining in detail ( Press button 1 then 2 etc) they assume we all have sceince degrees or are computer experts . all i wish is for help in watching S-y Sp-rts through my box . Is their anyone out there who can advise me or guide me to other relative Threads.
Many Thanks
westkill
24th June, 2009, 08:25 PM
what type of satellite dish setup you got m8 :)
sofad1970
24th June, 2009, 09:23 PM
Im exactly the same as you i bought a Black Box 500 and i dont have the slightest clue how to set up ...All i want is sly sborts and cartoon channels for kids its really doing my head in i have exactly the same box as you y sounds of it so all help is much appreciated
opsmonkey
24th June, 2009, 09:50 PM
sorry mate if you bought your box for sky its been a waste of money..
the dreambox does not open sky without cardsharing which is extremely complex..
sky's encryption is un-open.. its not like the cable scene
the satellite box requires savy IT knowledge and is best used to open European channels only on different satellites to Sky's 28E..
All you will view with your Blackbox / Dreambox on Sky is free channels like BBC ITV etc
Curious123
24th June, 2009, 11:22 PM
Don't understand why so many people are buying dreamboxes and yet haven't the foggiest idea about its capabilities or any idea about configuring the box.
opsmonkey
24th June, 2009, 11:25 PM
i dont think people know they are really mini PC's with satellite tuners.. i think, they think that they are similar to patchable boxes..
Ebay is littered with boxes bought for sky.. you can pick up some right cheap gems.. i got my mate a D500 clone for ?20
westkill
24th June, 2009, 11:30 PM
Don't understand why so many people are buying dreamboxes and yet haven't the foggiest idea about its capabilities or any idea about configuring the box.
they must think there plug n play these units
or
they new curious123 was here to help them out:roflmao:
Curious123
24th June, 2009, 11:36 PM
they must think there plug n play these units
or
they new curious123 was here to help them out:roflmao:
My brain says I should go with opsmonkey and at least ask them to try and solve the problem but my heart says sod it tell them the answer.lol Its case of the old 'give a man fish and he will eat for the day, give him a fishing rod and he will eat for life'. I guess we both know who is right.
opsmonkey
24th June, 2009, 11:36 PM
there's a box on ebay now which just needs a flash erase.. ?37
advert states..
hi i am selling my dreambox dm 500s comes in original box with remote control alll the leads and manual its only for spares and repair. There is a light on, it just doesnt do anything i couldnt figure it out whats wrong with it
sofad1970
25th June, 2009, 07:59 AM
So could any of you guy's recommend an alternative, i have cable installed but only have free stuff is there an easier solution to get all channels?
westkill
25th June, 2009, 08:05 AM
what cable box you using m8
.: JaCkPoT :.
25th June, 2009, 09:26 AM
mate any 3rd party cable receiver can be patched to open all channels on cableTV services
opsmonkey
25th June, 2009, 04:01 PM
mate any 3rd party cable receiver can be patched to open all channels on cableTV services
but not for much longer.. Nagra3 is soon to be rolled out and non VM cable boxes will be FTA channels only
sofad1970
25th June, 2009, 06:22 PM
The box i have is SMT 210 C Sansung V Box, but i was going to buy a new 1 or dont i have to ? Can this box be patched ? Im a bit thick when it comes to this kinda stuff
opsmonkey
25th June, 2009, 08:21 PM
No you have an official Virgin Box.. that cant be patched
My advice is wait and see what happens when Nagra3 rolls out..
As for your Blackbox you wont get encrypted Sky channels on Free To Air..
t10000
25th June, 2009, 11:09 PM
Hi
I have a simple 40inch dish with a universal LNB. So I would be able to get s*y without this 'CARDSHARING' am i correct ? So with my setup of black box and dish i need to to get technical to get my S*y. So be it if it saves me ?50 per month . I am on my way to finding the holy grail , Im sure there must be Threads on this site to help. Thanks for your advice and hopefully within the next 2 weeks (while the wife is away) i can conquer this BlackBox. PS dont be so hard on us newbies we all have to start somewhere. Hopfully if the Grail is found i will post my thoughts here again.
BYYYYYYYYYYYY
.: JaCkPoT :.
25th June, 2009, 11:26 PM
Okay firstly 40inch dish isnt simple..thats over 1m..:)
I know you mean 43cm minidish..;)
Sky Tv is not viewable for free mate..the only way is via cardsharing which discussion here is not allowed..please google cardsharing and dreambox500s (a blackbox is exactly the same)..
Then do some reading about what is required to cardshare..although i can tell you its highly illegal!
Curious123
25th June, 2009, 11:26 PM
Hi
I have a simple 40inch dish with a universal LNB. So I would be able to get s*y without this 'CARDSHARING' am i correct ? So with my setup of black box and dish i need to to get technical to get my S*y. So be it if it saves me ?50 per month . I am on my way to finding the holy grail , Im sure there must be Threads on this site to help. Thanks for your advice and hopefully within the next 2 weeks (while the wife is away) i can conquer this BlackBox. PS dont be so hard on us newbies we all have to start somewhere. Hopfully if the Grail is found i will post my thoughts here again.
BYYYYYYYYYYYY
Can I refer you to post#4 again as far as Sky is concerned.
t10000
25th June, 2009, 11:37 PM
Hi
I have a few questions that have been of some confussion to myself and probably others, can anyone be of help in offering their answers .
1/ The DK (Digital Kaos) which is on my startup screen is this the so called 'IMAGE' ?
2/ Is this IMAGE an old IMAGE as all the help talk about the 'GEMINI IMAGE'.
3/ The IMAGE is this just a setup program ?
4/ I pressed the 'PANIC' button in the program to see what it did it seemed to close down the program which i then had to reboot, but all of the settings seem to be still intacked so would it have taken any other items off without me knowing ? I still get the same progs on screen.
5/ Can you tell me what the card slot in the from off the machine is for if we cannot get encripted channels on the Blackbox ?
Many thanks
opsmonkey
25th June, 2009, 11:58 PM
Hi
I have a few questions that have been of some confussion to myself and probably others, can anyone be of help in offering their answers .
1/ The DK (Digital Kaos) which is on my startup screen is this the so called 'IMAGE' ?
2/ Is this IMAGE an old IMAGE as all the help talk about the 'GEMINI IMAGE'.
3/ The IMAGE is this just a setup program ?
4/ I pressed the 'PANIC' button in the program to see what it did it seemed to close down the program which i then had to reboot, but all of the settings seem to be still intacked so would it have taken any other items off without me knowing ? I still get the same progs on screen.
5/ Can you tell me what the card slot in the from off the machine is for if we cannot get encripted channels on the Blackbox ?
Many thanks
1. Yes
2. No.. There are loads of images.. DK, Gemini, PLi, Nabilosat
3. No its the operating software.. like Windows to a PC
4. If you dont know what you are doing why do it..??
5. A card.. like a sky card.. You cant get encrypted channels via EMU, if you use an official card then obvioulsy you can view channels.. If you get a sky card then get a sky box
i know there is no such thing as a stupid question but its obvious you have not read anything about the box or how it works.. can i ask why you have bought one then..??
t10000
26th June, 2009, 06:02 PM
Hi
Thanks for your help. The reason i purchased the Black box was because i have read somewhere that you can obtain S*y Sports via satellite , along with a broadband connection ?
So are you saying that the black box is just a cheap version of a satillite receiver ?
If not what else can it do that a legit receiver cannot do ?
Thanks
opsmonkey
26th June, 2009, 06:33 PM
I get the feeling im starting to repeat myself a bit here mate..
As posted earlier.. In post#4
sorry mate if you bought your box for sky its been a waste of money..
the dreambox does not open sky without cardsharing which is extremely complex..
sky's encryption is un-open.. its not like the cable scene
the satellite box requires savy IT knowledge and is best used to open European channels only on different satellites to Sky's 28E..
All you will view with your Blackbox / Dreambox on Sky is free channels like BBC ITV etc
Even if you find a server or cardshare (which is not an open topic here, so please stop asking for information) the NDS encryption that sky uses is top notch.. It will freeze and jump a lot..
The Dreambox Satellite is best used to open European Satellite channels like Novasports Greece, Premeire Germany, Canal+ France, Canal+ Poland, Canal+ Spain..
If you want to watch SKY then buy a sky box and subscription..
Whoever told you you can
watch Sky for free on a Dreambox
only told you half a story.. the other half is:
but it jumps and freezes a lot.. making it sometimes.. UNWATCHABLE
I dont think i can make it any easier than this:
You cant watch Sky Sports, Sky Movies etc on a Dreambox Satellite properly as the NDS encryption is too good.. You cant get around NDS, you can wait all you like.. It's closed, not open..
You can though watch European satellite sports channels.. but you will need to cardshare.. very technical, very hard to set up..
Ebay is littered with Dreamboxes, Blackboxes etc that people have bought but cant set up..
Its not a satellite receiver... Its a mini PC running Linux operating software that requires programing.. it just happens to have a satellite tuner built in
terriers
26th June, 2009, 07:15 PM
..lol.lol.lol
t10000
26th June, 2009, 10:59 PM
Hi Terriers
Thanks for your support and contribution. !!!!!
terriers
26th June, 2009, 11:09 PM
your welcome m8...
Hoppo
27th June, 2009, 11:34 AM
I have a TM5400+ and motorized dish as dreambox500s or blackboxes are cheep at the moment I was thinking of getting one to have a play about with. Would I get any more channel open than the TM, I’m not bothered about s?y or CS at this time. Thanks
opsmonkey
27th June, 2009, 04:59 PM
I have a TM5400+ and motorized dish as dreambox500s or blackboxes are cheep at the moment I was thinking of getting one to have a play about with. Would I get any more channel open than the TM, I?m not bothered about s?y or CS at this time. Thanks
No.. no packages are really open anymore..
.: JaCkPoT :.
27th June, 2009, 06:43 PM
without CS the technomate IMO is the better box for user friendliness but that defeats the point Of dreamboxes...
sofad1970
28th June, 2009, 11:11 AM
If i was to purchase a Eurovox Ex100 would that give me all sly channels ....sports , music , cartoons ....etc etc ....
opsmonkey
28th June, 2009, 08:21 PM
If i was to purchase a Eurovox Ex100 would that give me all sly channels ....sports , music , cartoons ....etc etc ....
this is a cable box.. do you live in a cabled area...???
sofad1970
29th June, 2009, 07:41 AM
Yes i live in a Cable Area, i currently have a virgin box but just recieve free view channels as it was part of my package with phone & broadband
opsmonkey
29th June, 2009, 02:16 PM
then yes.. if you buy a cable box like the eurovox, or one of the others you will open sky UK for the timebeing.. How long it will last is no-ones guess.. if your after opening Sky UK this is the only way as Virgin's encryption is open..
check the cable section for more help & info
sofad1970
29th June, 2009, 06:33 PM
:congrats: just wanted to say thanks for your help, much appreciated
opsmonkey
29th June, 2009, 06:41 PM
no probs mate ;) good luck
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